I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in a relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Jane was indisputably wrong in what she did. Jane twisted and manipulated both Kenny and Clementine just so she could have Clem to her self and get away from Kenny.
No. This is just your opinion. Otherwise people wouldn't have been fighting about this in the last few days.
we should be able to understand that killing Kenny there was not a good thing to do.
Again, your opinion. I didn't want to kill Kenny, tried to stop him, couldn't do that, then killed him before he became like Carver. He understood that, and said that was the right choice. I like my choice, and there's nothing wrong about that, nothing to understand.
Jane was indisputably wrong in what she did. Jane twisted and manipulated both Kenny and Clementine just so she could have Clem to her self … moreand get away from Kenny.
I understand people not realizing what was going on in the moment, but looking back at it, we should be able to understand that killing Kenny there was not a good thing to do.
I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in … morea relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Why are people like this so mad about being wrong? The personal attacks, the baiting, the constant anger...geez.
Like, the speech Kenny g… moreives at the Gates of Wellington torpedoes everything they talk about.
Just admit you were wrong and choose poorly, it's not that big a deal.
Why are people like this so mad about being wrong? The personal attacks, the baiting, the constant anger...geez.
Like, the speech Kenny g… moreives at the Gates of Wellington torpedoes everything they talk about.
Just admit you were wrong and choose poorly, it's not that big a deal.
Agreed. After getting to Wellington, Kenny was extremely happy. Hadn't seen him that happy in a long time. It was honestly part of the reason why the scene was so powerful.
I wouldn't like to have you around if I ever go through depression.
"Leave me alone, I just wanna die...
BANG !
-That's what he wan… moreted. He told me."
In my playthrough where I saved Kenny and went with him to Wellington (and left with him), he sure did not want to die anymore and seemed to enjoy life. Sometimes you feel like shit and like you deserve to die, doesn't mean you can't get better and enjoy life again.
Lee would definitely have done the same. I used this example in another comment, but suppose that Lee and Clem got separated by a horde of w… morealkers, but he saw Clem running off with Ben. Lee later meets Ben in a safe area, but notices Clem isn't there. He asks Ben where she went, to where Ben starts stammering about how sorry he is and that it was an accident and that she's gone. Ben, already established as a screwup and who has abandoned Clem once already to save his own skin.
Lee would go absolutely apeshit on Ben, and probably be supported by most of the playerbase to boot.
No one is rationalizing helping Kenny to commit murder.. because he did not commit murder. Jane instigated the fight, that much isn't even debatable. Jane is also the one who first tried to kill Kenny. All he was doing was holding her against the wall, until she took out a knife and immediately went for the kill. After she cut him open, he retreated out the door but she followed to finish him off. At the point that he kills Jane, he is clearly fighting for his life.
An example is when he fixed the truck, and then tried to force everyone to come with him to Wellington when no-one else wanted to. That's selfishness right there, because he's putting his own pride before the wellbeing of the group. Keep in mind that at this point, there isn't much evidence to suggest that Wellington even exists, so he's willing to risk the lives of everyone on faith when they could easily travel back to Carver's store for a guarantee of safety.
As for the others using Clem against Kenny as a tool... What? Sorry, but first of all people started saying that Jane was manipulative, and now it becomes "everyone but Kenny is manipulating Clem"? Oh, so it's all a big conspiracy now? Doubtful.
I have no doubt that Kenny cares for AJ, but he seems to be willing to ruin the lives of everyone else in the group with his aggressive attitude. By the end of the episode, pretty much everyone is sick and tired of Kenny's near-constant aggression and the inhumane way he treated Arvo. Also, the way he blamed Clem for Sarita's death was way out of line - even though he apologized to her for it, it proves that he'd just treat AJ the same way in the future. He may care, but good intentions are no substitute for knowing how the chainsaw works.
Prove it. Don't just say "Kenny proved he didn't care about anyone but himself." Give me an example.
I can argue against that with AJ and… more Clem. You can't say he didn't care for them. The others wanted to use Clem against Kenny, as a tool to guide him towards their goals. It's shows when he took the beating at Carver's for Clem, it shows when he takes care of AJ when Rebecca is incapable to, and it shows when he attacks Jane for believing she left AJ to die. He wouldn't have done any of those if he didn't care.
Yes, she did deserve it. She instigated the whole fight on purpose, and was willing to kill him just to prove a point. Kenny killing Jane is not even remotely comparable to Carver, and isn't really comparable to Lilly either. Carver murdered people because they were weak or because they got in his way. Lilly murdered Doug/Carley because she thought they were a detriment to the group. In Carley's case, Lilly kills her basically because Carley insulted her and it pushed her over the edge.
Because she didn't deserve to die and Kenny knew it.
Saving her is preventing Kenny from becoming another Lily/Carver and he's proud of you for stopping him.
This is what Jane does if you tell Kenny to run.. (he was already slashed open and was backing away from Jane while she was coming towards him with a knife)
She was trying to protect Clem by intentionally bringing out the worst in Kenny? That is unfair to both Kenny and Clem. Jane even admits it was a stupid plan. It didn't really prove anything. Anyone would have flipped out if they thought someone had murdered their baby (adopted or not). Its like kicking a sleeping bear in the face and then feeling justified about shooting it because it tried to maul you. Jane wanted to fight, and she did her best to hit Kenny where it hurt, while also trying to keep Clem on her side.
This is what Jane does if you tell Kenny to run.. (he was already slashed open and was backing away from Jane while she was coming towards him with a knife)
No. This is just your opinion. Otherwise people wouldn't have been fighting about this in the last few days
Of course there are people that don't agree. Just because people don't agree with each other doesn't mean there is not a right answer.
I didn't want to kill Kenny, tried to stop him, couldn't do that, then killed him before he became like Carver.
Killing Jane doesn't make him like Carver. Carver killed people because they were weak or because they were in his way. Kenny kills Jane because he is fighting for his life and thinks that she killed his (adopted) baby. Massive, massive difference.
He understood that, and said that was the right choice.
What was he supposed to say? He clearly loves Clem. The alternative would have been to use his last moments making her feel terrible.
If you save Kenny, he explains the situation differently.
Jane was indisputably wrong in what she did. Jane twisted and manipulated both Kenny and Clementine just so she could have Clem to her self … moreand get away from Kenny.
No. This is just your opinion. Otherwise people wouldn't have been fighting about this in the last few days.
we should be able to understand that killing Kenny there was not a good thing to do.
Again, your opinion. I didn't want to kill Kenny, tried to stop him, couldn't do that, then killed him before he became like Carver. He understood that, and said that was the right choice. I like my choice, and there's nothing wrong about that, nothing to understand.
Say you wait in episode 4, jane takes off day 1. We are supposed to believe she heard those shots days later, and came running back. She was stalking Clementine to make her Jamie 2.0
Jane was trying to kill Kenny. It got to the point that he was fighting for his life. He even says as much afterwards if he you save him. Jane was a psycho.
After the truck is fixed, Clem is told to talk some sense into him. Earlier, she is also told to change Kenny's bandages because they believe she's the only one he trusts. Earlier, in Ep. 4, they do this twice, once when Kenny's by the statue, and again when he's in the tent. Carlos even relied on Clem's relationship with Kenny in the Skiing Lodge to understand them better because he didn't trust them.
As for him wanting to force everyone to go to Wellington, that is the same thing Kenny did in S1. He pushed everyone to Savannah so they could go to the coast, and he pushed for the boat even when he and Lee found the ruined remains of boats along the dock. Kenny's not selfish, he's just an aggressive leader, and has always been a rebel against any other form of power controlling him or the group away from his own plans.
Plus, he did fix the truck. The group owes him at least a chance to search for Wellington. What do they do instead? Plan to steal it. When Kenny leaves the truck to get more gas, what does Jane do? Conspire with Clem to leave him to die. He helps them by giving them all a vehicle, then goes out to the storm to refuel it by himself. I don't consider those selfish acts.
An example is when he fixed the truck, and then tried to force everyone to come with him to Wellington when no-one else wanted to. That's se… morelfishness right there, because he's putting his own pride before the wellbeing of the group. Keep in mind that at this point, there isn't much evidence to suggest that Wellington even exists, so he's willing to risk the lives of everyone on faith when they could easily travel back to Carver's store for a guarantee of safety.
As for the others using Clem against Kenny as a tool... What? Sorry, but first of all people started saying that Jane was manipulative, and now it becomes "everyone but Kenny is manipulating Clem"? Oh, so it's all a big conspiracy now? Doubtful.
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Kenny didn't give a shit about Clem or the baby.
He was willing to risk Clem's life, the baby's life, everybody's lives on a bloody RUMOUR.
All he cared about was his own fantasy of redemption.
And what does Telltale do? They reward the idiot by making him real lucky again.
What should have happened in the Kenny endings is a dead Clem, a dead baby and a dead Kenny. Cause that was what he was willing to risk for his peace of mind.
Yeah, but Jane had just got done trying to gouge out his eye. It had already been escalated. She had already made it clear that she was not going to stop until he was dead. If you get in her away and tell Kenny to run, she even states that she isn't going to let Kenny run away. The fight was as escalated as it was going to get.
Belan think about this,
Say you wait in episode 4, jane takes off day 1. We are supposed to believe she heard those shots days later, and came running back. She was stalking Clementine to make her Jamie 2.0
I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in … morea relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Kenny didn't give a shit about Clem or the baby.
He was willing to risk Clem's life, the baby's life, everybody's lives on a bloody RUMOUR.… more
All he cared about was his own fantasy of redemption.
And what does Telltale do? They reward the idiot by making him real lucky again.
What should have happened in the Kenny endings is a dead Clem, a dead baby and a dead Kenny. Cause that was what he was willing to risk for his peace of mind.
I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in … morea relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Kenny didn't give a shit about Clem or the baby.
He was willing to risk Clem's life, the baby's life, everybody's lives on a bloody RUMOUR.… more
All he cared about was his own fantasy of redemption.
And what does Telltale do? They reward the idiot by making him real lucky again.
What should have happened in the Kenny endings is a dead Clem, a dead baby and a dead Kenny. Cause that was what he was willing to risk for his peace of mind.
Belan think about this,
Say you wait in episode 4, jane takes off day 1. We are supposed to believe she heard those shots days later, and came running back. She was stalking Clementine to make her Jamie 2.0
I shot him too. I didn't think I woulda shot him but I did...and I feel awful. Kenny and I were bros but he had enough pain. In the end, I went with Jane only because I think she can help Clementine help the baby. I kinda wish I would go back and let Kenny kill Jane...because maybe there was a chance he could redeem himself.
The civil response:Yeah lemon that why 70% Killed Kenny , and bro there's no right choice all all.Lee even said in the dream , It's not like math it's not always the right choice.Either all endings are the right ones or none of them are.
The aggressive response:So quit your bitching and Stop saying that Your ending the right one.
Why are people like this so mad about being wrong? The personal attacks, the baiting, the constant anger...geez.
Like, the speech Kenny g… moreives at the Gates of Wellington torpedoes everything they talk about.
Just admit you were wrong and choose poorly, it's not that big a deal.
The murder concept is wrong anyway , Kenny wasn't killing her by self defense , Once Kenny was on top of her , she was defenseless and unarmed , killing someone like that it's execution.Clementine shooting Kenny is wrong too , Kenny was in a killing mood and Clem had to shoot him as Jane was in an execution position.
i don't know about afraid of dying...because in episode 3 or 4..he mentioned that he felt like he floating away peacefully when he was beaten to death....
Kenny is afraid of dying because he still has at least two reasons left to live. You know Kenny would tell your Clementine he supports her d… moreecision to shoot him just so that Clementine won't have to live with the guilt he has felt himself after failing to protect his loved ones. Think about that for a second: Kenny is looking out for Clementine even if she decides to end his life.
I don't see the point in these "what Lee would do" arguments, since his personality and actions are very much determinant and up to the player. Every players Lee would act differently, no?
Lee would definitely have done the same. I used this example in another comment, but suppose that Lee and Clem got separated by a horde of w… morealkers, but he saw Clem running off with Ben. Lee later meets Ben in a safe area, but notices Clem isn't there. He asks Ben where she went, to where Ben starts stammering about how sorry he is and that it was an accident and that she's gone. Ben, already established as a screwup and who has abandoned Clem once already to save his own skin.
Lee would go absolutely apeshit on Ben, and probably be supported by most of the playerbase to boot.
Not in the case of someone murdering or accidentally killing Clementine due to incompetence or cowardice. All Lees are consistent in regards to protecting that girl.
I don't see the point in these "what Lee would do" arguments, since his personality and actions are very much determinant and up to the player. Every players Lee would act differently, no?
Maybe so, but attacking/killing someone after an accident has already occurred isn't protecting anybody. Its just about taking your frustrations out on somebody. My main issue is not in Kenny attacking Jane. Its about Kenny attacking Jane without ever hearing her out. My Lee would have at least tryed to comprehend the situation before doing something as drastic as engaging in a fight to the death.
Not in the case of someone murdering or accidentally killing Clementine due to incompetence or cowardice. All Lees are consistent in regards to protecting that girl.
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I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in a relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
No. This is just your opinion. Otherwise people wouldn't have been fighting about this in the last few days.
Again, your opinion. I didn't want to kill Kenny, tried to stop him, couldn't do that, then killed him before he became like Carver. He understood that, and said that was the right choice. I like my choice, and there's nothing wrong about that, nothing to understand.
Why are people like this so mad about being wrong? The personal attacks, the baiting, the constant anger...geez.
Like, the speech Kenny gives at the Gates of Wellington torpedoes everything they talk about.
Just admit you were wrong and choose poorly, it's not that big a deal.
So the right choice is to let kenny murder someone? Seems legit
Where he admits he's broken and can't take care of Clem anymore?
Well, in a video game it's an option and people can do as they please.
Agreed. After getting to Wellington, Kenny was extremely happy. Hadn't seen him that happy in a long time. It was honestly part of the reason why the scene was so powerful.
Exactly. Any parental figure who is told that their child has been killed is going to flip out. Especially if they think murderous action is involved.
This isn't special to Kenny. The same thing could have happened with anyone.
You think so? Obviously Lee was a very good person, but he had killed before.
If he ever thought that Ben had murdered Clem, who knows what he would have done.
He never says anything about the fight escalating if you shoot him. All he does is reassure Clem that what she did was okay.
Over the distant horizon, an airship rose.
The Dread Sky-Pirate K was on the move.
No one is rationalizing helping Kenny to commit murder.. because he did not commit murder. Jane instigated the fight, that much isn't even debatable. Jane is also the one who first tried to kill Kenny. All he was doing was holding her against the wall, until she took out a knife and immediately went for the kill. After she cut him open, he retreated out the door but she followed to finish him off. At the point that he kills Jane, he is clearly fighting for his life.
An example is when he fixed the truck, and then tried to force everyone to come with him to Wellington when no-one else wanted to. That's selfishness right there, because he's putting his own pride before the wellbeing of the group. Keep in mind that at this point, there isn't much evidence to suggest that Wellington even exists, so he's willing to risk the lives of everyone on faith when they could easily travel back to Carver's store for a guarantee of safety.
As for the others using Clem against Kenny as a tool... What? Sorry, but first of all people started saying that Jane was manipulative, and now it becomes "everyone but Kenny is manipulating Clem"? Oh, so it's all a big conspiracy now? Doubtful.
I have no doubt that Kenny cares for AJ, but he seems to be willing to ruin the lives of everyone else in the group with his aggressive attitude. By the end of the episode, pretty much everyone is sick and tired of Kenny's near-constant aggression and the inhumane way he treated Arvo. Also, the way he blamed Clem for Sarita's death was way out of line - even though he apologized to her for it, it proves that he'd just treat AJ the same way in the future. He may care, but good intentions are no substitute for knowing how the chainsaw works.
Yes, she did deserve it. She instigated the whole fight on purpose, and was willing to kill him just to prove a point. Kenny killing Jane is not even remotely comparable to Carver, and isn't really comparable to Lilly either. Carver murdered people because they were weak or because they got in his way. Lilly murdered Doug/Carley because she thought they were a detriment to the group. In Carley's case, Lilly kills her basically because Carley insulted her and it pushed her over the edge.
This is what Jane does if you tell Kenny to run.. (he was already slashed open and was backing away from Jane while she was coming towards him with a knife)
She was trying to protect Clem by intentionally bringing out the worst in Kenny? That is unfair to both Kenny and Clem. Jane even admits it was a stupid plan. It didn't really prove anything. Anyone would have flipped out if they thought someone had murdered their baby (adopted or not). Its like kicking a sleeping bear in the face and then feeling justified about shooting it because it tried to maul you. Jane wanted to fight, and she did her best to hit Kenny where it hurt, while also trying to keep Clem on her side.
Once you pull Jane off him she drops the knife and is no longer a threat. Kenny grabs it and slices her leg. They both had a hand in escalating this.
Of course there are people that don't agree. Just because people don't agree with each other doesn't mean there is not a right answer.
Killing Jane doesn't make him like Carver. Carver killed people because they were weak or because they were in his way. Kenny kills Jane because he is fighting for his life and thinks that she killed his (adopted) baby. Massive, massive difference.
What was he supposed to say? He clearly loves Clem. The alternative would have been to use his last moments making her feel terrible.
If you save Kenny, he explains the situation differently.
I didn't think it was nessecary for Jane/Kenny to push Clementine to the ground.
But they both do it. Neither one can be the victim here, they both had ways out of it.
Belan think about this,
Say you wait in episode 4, jane takes off day 1. We are supposed to believe she heard those shots days later, and came running back. She was stalking Clementine to make her Jamie 2.0
After the truck is fixed, Clem is told to talk some sense into him. Earlier, she is also told to change Kenny's bandages because they believe she's the only one he trusts. Earlier, in Ep. 4, they do this twice, once when Kenny's by the statue, and again when he's in the tent. Carlos even relied on Clem's relationship with Kenny in the Skiing Lodge to understand them better because he didn't trust them.
As for him wanting to force everyone to go to Wellington, that is the same thing Kenny did in S1. He pushed everyone to Savannah so they could go to the coast, and he pushed for the boat even when he and Lee found the ruined remains of boats along the dock. Kenny's not selfish, he's just an aggressive leader, and has always been a rebel against any other form of power controlling him or the group away from his own plans.
Plus, he did fix the truck. The group owes him at least a chance to search for Wellington. What do they do instead? Plan to steal it. When Kenny leaves the truck to get more gas, what does Jane do? Conspire with Clem to leave him to die. He helps them by giving them all a vehicle, then goes out to the storm to refuel it by himself. I don't consider those selfish acts.
The difference is Kenny was limping away and Jane was coming towards him with a knife to finish the job.
Kenny didn't give a shit about Clem or the baby.
He was willing to risk Clem's life, the baby's life, everybody's lives on a bloody RUMOUR.
All he cared about was his own fantasy of redemption.
And what does Telltale do? They reward the idiot by making him real lucky again.
What should have happened in the Kenny endings is a dead Clem, a dead baby and a dead Kenny. Cause that was what he was willing to risk for his peace of mind.
Yeah, but Jane had just got done trying to gouge out his eye. It had already been escalated. She had already made it clear that she was not going to stop until he was dead. If you get in her away and tell Kenny to run, she even states that she isn't going to let Kenny run away. The fight was as escalated as it was going to get.
She was stupid, got stabbed, deserved it.
May have been. I wouldn't have had a problem with it if she hadn't been so manipulative and terrible about it.
Any action that results in the words "Clem had to kill" is a horrible mistake.
I'm loving the way you just called everyone who had a different choice than you "Fucking dense," and accuse them all of being bloodthirsty murderers.
Nice generalizations you got going on there.
What makes you think I'm not calm? Did I forget to put a smiley at the end? Well, here you go.
??????????
You absolutely makes no sense.
(Double Post... again)
I shot him too. I didn't think I woulda shot him but I did...and I feel awful. Kenny and I were bros but he had enough pain. In the end, I went with Jane only because I think she can help Clementine help the baby. I kinda wish I would go back and let Kenny kill Jane...because maybe there was a chance he could redeem himself.
The civil response:Yeah lemon that why 70% Killed Kenny , and bro there's no right choice all all.Lee even said in the dream , It's not like math it's not always the right choice.Either all endings are the right ones or none of them are.
The aggressive response:So quit your bitching and Stop saying that Your ending the right one.
The murder concept is wrong anyway , Kenny wasn't killing her by self defense , Once Kenny was on top of her , she was defenseless and unarmed , killing someone like that it's execution.Clementine shooting Kenny is wrong too , Kenny was in a killing mood and Clem had to shoot him as Jane was in an execution position.
i don't know about afraid of dying...because in episode 3 or 4..he mentioned that he felt like he floating away peacefully when he was beaten to death....
I don't see the point in these "what Lee would do" arguments, since his personality and actions are very much determinant and up to the player. Every players Lee would act differently, no?
Not in the case of someone murdering or accidentally killing Clementine due to incompetence or cowardice. All Lees are consistent in regards to protecting that girl.
Maybe so, but attacking/killing someone after an accident has already occurred isn't protecting anybody. Its just about taking your frustrations out on somebody. My main issue is not in Kenny attacking Jane. Its about Kenny attacking Jane without ever hearing her out. My Lee would have at least tryed to comprehend the situation before doing something as drastic as engaging in a fight to the death.