I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life
The comments defending Kenny are not idiotic in the least. They are completely logical arguments. And really, if you're going to insult people like that you should really take the time to actually try and refute the argument. I personally would love to hear why you think Kenny deserved to die in that situation. I would love to have that discussion with you.
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well.
That's ridiculous and you know it. Do you honestly believe that? You really think Telltale was taking a dig at loyal Kenny fans? Like... wow. There is nothing to base that on, despite it being incredibly unlikely anyway.
Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly
Oh, so its totally okay for Jane to kill Kenny though? Or you to kill Kenny for her? You just admitted that Jane was the one who was originally wrong, as in you're admitting that she manipulated the situation, yet you're saying Kenny needed to die because of it? How does that make any sense? Jane instigated the fight, and all she did was escalate the situation into a fight to the death from there.
Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Why do you generalize so much in your arguments? Its so illogical. Clearly the Jane situation is very different from anything he did in Season Two. He got tricked into thinking she killed his baby so he got physical with her. Nowhere else in the season does anything close to this happen. He never threatens another member of the group in terms of intentionally trying to bring them harm.
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival.
Again, you're insulting without actually doing anything to back up your claims. How do you expect anyone to take that seriously?
Also, you can't reasonably think Kenny is a menace to the survival of others and yet possibly be totally okay with Jane in this area. Jane is manipulative, untrustworthy, selfish, and generally uncaring. She is totally willing to abandon people if she thinks they lessen her chances of personal survival. Her morality is very questionable. I'm not saying this makes Jane someone who is definitely a danger to Clem, but you can't possibly think of Kenny as a direct danger to Clem and yet be totally fine about Jane.
The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Determinate. You can stick up for Kenny if you want to. Bonnie wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and Mike just wanted to coddle Arvo for whatever reason. Jane had her personal agenda to work with.
I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life and scarring Clementine even further, pushing her in … morea relationship where she'll never be able to think for herself again...
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well. Although Jane may have initially been in the wrong, allowing Kenny to waste another one of my group members is beyond grisly. Cause it means people played the section, and thought "hmm, I like Kenny's ravenous bloodlust constantly putting me and everyone else three steps back. I think I'll let him, yet again, violently kill off someone else because YOLO!"
Don't be so fucking dense. Kenny is a menace to Clementine, to AJ, and to everyone else's survival. The only person in episode 5, in fact, that refutes this is Kenny...
Kenny didn't give a shit about Clem or the baby.
He was willing to risk Clem's life, the baby's life, everybody's lives on a bloody RUMOUR.… more
All he cared about was his own fantasy of redemption.
And what does Telltale do? They reward the idiot by making him real lucky again.
What should have happened in the Kenny endings is a dead Clem, a dead baby and a dead Kenny. Cause that was what he was willing to risk for his peace of mind.
She said it was an accident. He charged, She pulled out her knife and said don't come near me. She then put her knife away, Kenny then charged her and she had enough.
It very clearly went beyond defending herself. She was the one who turned a physical scrum into a fight to the death. She was the one who purposely provoked Kenny into an altercation in the first place.
First thing's last. Do not misconstrue "idiotic comments" to mean i was referring to people on the forums personally. Some of the comments are idiotic however, saying Jane deserves to rot in hell and choke on glass is VERY fucking idiotic.
Now, about the "Jane referring to the Kenny fans" thing. I was simply making a comparison to some of the stubborn comments i had seen being comparable to Kenny's hostile attitude in the playground. So again, i was being a little facetious with that sentence.
Yes, i agree with you. Jane absolutely planned to have Kenny fly off the handle in order to prove a rational point about his sanity being not only questionable, but also hanging on a thread. But, Kenny took the bait. He instantly became extremely hostile with her, without knowing fully what had happened in the first place. That's wrong, Belan, that's very wrong.
Again, the YOLO thing should have been a dead giveaway i was being facetious. But, yeah, go ahead and misconstrue that as well. It wouldn't be the first time.
I've always liked how people can misinterpret me saying Kenny was a danger to mean i went off with Jane, and that i like her. Things aren't black and white. I killed Kenny cause i was sick and tired of his anger constantly consuming him and putting people at danger. I don't understand how that's so hard to grasp? I left Jane as well, she may have been manipulating Clementine for Clementine's own safety. But i couldn't bring myself to forgive her. So i left on my own with AJ.
You can stick up for Kenny, but was Clementine the one refuting the accusations? Other than one or two options, Clementine mostly just says stuff like "I think we can fix him." That's not refuting, that's being more optimistic. Kenny showed hostility when addressed about his issues.
I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life
The comments defending Kenny are not idiotic … morein the least. They are completely logical arguments. And really, if you're going to insult people like that you should really take the time to actually try and refute the argument. I personally would love to hear why you think Kenny deserved to die in that situation. I would love to have that discussion with you.
And I just realized when Jane was talking to Clementine about seeing Kenny for what he truly is, she inadvertently meant some his fourteen year old "dedicated followers" as well.
That's ridiculous and you know it. Do you honestly believe that? You really think Telltale was taking a dig at loyal Kenny fans? Like... wow. There is nothing to base that on, despite it being incredibly unlikely anyway.
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She had to have wanted him to charge her when she put the knife away... nothing else makes sense. He wasn't going to attack her while she had the knife out. That's why he just stood there. If the incident would have ended there, Jane would have proven pretty much nothing and would have looked like a total fool.
Think about it, when she says "Don't come near me" and puts her knife away, if Kenny would have actually done what she said, then her whole plan would have fallen apart. She fully expected Kenny to fight.
You're also ignoring the fact that Jane was still actively trying to kill Kenny even when he had disengaged from the fight after getting slashed across the stomach. The fight could have ended there. She was more interested in killing him though. It was not self defense at all at that point. From that point on, Kenny was the one who was actually fighting for his life.
She said it was an accident. He charged, She pulled out her knife and said don't come near me. She then put her knife away, Kenny then charged her and she had enough.
First thing's last. Do not misconstrue "idiotic comments" to mean i was referring to people on the forums personally. Some of the comments are idiotic however, saying Jane deserves to rot in hell and choke on glass is VERY fucking idiotic.
Kind of hard not to misconstrue what you meant when you didn't express those feelings at all. All you said was "'I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life". Based on that sentence it looks like you were saying comments that support Kenny being right are idiotic comments. All good though.
Now, about the "Jane referring to the Kenny fans" thing. I was simply making a comparison to some of the stubborn comments i had seen being comparable to Kenny's hostile attitude in the playground. So again, i was being a little facetious with that sentence.
Yes, i agree with you. Jane absolutely planned to have Kenny fly off the handle in order to prove a rational point about his sanity being not only questionable, but also hanging on a thread. But, Kenny took the bait. He instantly became extremely hostile with her, without knowing fully what had happened in the first place. That's wrong, Belan, that's very wrong
You're not being realistic. Any parent who heavily suspects that their child has been murdered by someone is going to absolutely flip out on that individual. Based on Jane's character, there was reason to suspect her of abandoning the baby. Especially since she purposely did nothing to rationalize or explain, even when Kenny called her on it. There was no way Kenny was going to be completely calm and rational there. No way. Ideally you would like him to be more calm, but again, that just isn't realistic in the slightest.
Again, the YOLO thing should have been a dead giveaway i was being facetious. But, yeah, go ahead and misconstrue that as well. It wouldn't be the first time.
No, it wasn't clear at all. It isn't our job as the readers to try and decipher hidden meaning behind your writing. There was literally no reason to assume you were being facetious. If you want to try getting a point across, try actually being clear in your meaning instead of pointlessly making it difficult and expecting everyone to follow what you're trying to say.
I've always liked how people can misinterpret me saying Kenny was a danger to mean i went off with Jane, and that i like her. Things aren't black and white. I killed Kenny cause i was sick and tired of his anger constantly consuming him and putting people at danger. I don't understand how that's so hard to grasp? I
It isn't hard to grasp at all. If that is why you killed him, then more power to you. Doesn't change the fact that it was unfair to the character. His anger was never directly putting group members in danger in season two, outside of the altercation with Jane.
I left Jane as well, she may have been manipulating Clementine for Clementine's own safety. But i couldn't bring myself to forgive her. So i left on my own with AJ.
Well, I agree with that at least.
You can stick up for Kenny, but was Clementine the one refuting the accusations? Other than one or two options, Clementine mostly just says stuff like "I think we can fix him." That's not refuting, that's being more optimistic. Kenny showed hostility when addressed about his issues.
I was talking about sticking up for his opinions when no one else in the group would.
First thing's last. Do not misconstrue "idiotic comments" to mean i was referring to people on the forums personally. Some of the comments a… morere idiotic however, saying Jane deserves to rot in hell and choke on glass is VERY fucking idiotic.
Now, about the "Jane referring to the Kenny fans" thing. I was simply making a comparison to some of the stubborn comments i had seen being comparable to Kenny's hostile attitude in the playground. So again, i was being a little facetious with that sentence.
Yes, i agree with you. Jane absolutely planned to have Kenny fly off the handle in order to prove a rational point about his sanity being not only questionable, but also hanging on a thread. But, Kenny took the bait. He instantly became extremely hostile with her, without knowing fully what had happened in the first place. That's wrong, Belan, that's very wrong.
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How else do they get back to their safe house? Obviously across the ice. The Russian guys were a lot heavier than Arvo, so he would know where they were crossing. He lead them across shallow ice, it broke. In a escape attempt.
Luke's death was a situation which could not have been forseen by Arvo
I see the evil genius in this guy, you can't fool me. He knew what would happen. He knew one of the guys would fall, because they were the heaviest, why else would he start running. He got to the spot where he didn't want to fall in , because he KNEW what would happen so he started running.
All you said was purely facts that aren't true - how do you know he walked 100 times, or knew where it was safe?
Also - Arvo didn't force… more any of them, he just said that it was safe - it was the group's choice to walk across the ice, not his. Luke's death was a situation which could not have been forseen by Arvo or forced by him. It was the groups call as to whether they should walk straight or not - and they did.
And "Rooskies are devious" is kind of stereotypical approach to the whole thing, is it not? Putin is just one Rooskie, not all.
He didn't lead anyone across the ice - also, we have no evidence as to whether Arvo knew where the shallow ice was or not, sure, he probably did walk across the ice a few times, but that doesn't he would remember off by heart where it's safe to walk across.
Also - he ran the moment zombies came; I don't know what Arvo reason's were for, but why would someone falling cause him to run?
..Okay - this is getting ridiculous. We need to stop, let's just agree to disagree - otherwise, we going to fill this page up with our arguments.
How else do they get back to their safe house? Obviously across the ice. The Russian guys were a lot heavier than Arvo, so he would know wh… moreere they were crossing. He lead them across shallow ice, it broke. In a escape attempt.
Luke's death was a situation which could not have been forseen by Arvo
I see the evil genius in this guy, you can't fool me. He knew what would happen. He knew one of the guys would fall, because they were the heaviest, why else would he start running. He got to the spot where he didn't want to fall in , because he KNEW what would happen so he started running.
There was no way Kenny was going to be completely calm and rational there. No way. Ideally you would like him to be more calm, but again, that just isn't realistic in the slightest.
I agree, i wasn't expecting him to be entirely calm about it (hell, i was more confused than anything). But he wasn't thinking the situation through. Perhaps i think too much about certain things, but why did Kenny run outside for like twenty seconds and THEN come back in with the intent to harm Jane? It doesn't add up... That should've giving him time to explore solutions other than trying to hurt Jane... But, this is Kenny we're talking about.
His anger was never directly putting group members in danger in season two, outside of the altercation with Jane.
Well, there was the episode three incident when Kenny was attacking Mike. Although he wasn't a group member at the time... Plus, his anger did indirectly put quite a few people in danger. Walter and Alvin (determinant) are big examples of indirect danger as well as him (determinately) putting everyone at danger at the end of episode 4 if he kills Rebecca. And although a lot of those are determinants, no other character has had as much indirect threat to people than Kenny, determinate or otherwise...
First thing's last. Do not misconstrue "idiotic comments" to mean i was referring to people on the forums personally. Some of the comments a… morere idiotic however, saying Jane deserves to rot in hell and choke on glass is VERY fucking idiotic.
Kind of hard not to misconstrue what you meant when you didn't express those feelings at all. All you said was "'I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life". Based on that sentence it looks like you were saying comments that support Kenny being right are idiotic comments. All good though.
Now, about the "Jane referring to the Kenny fans" thing. I was simply making a comparison to some of the stubborn comments i had seen being comparable to Kenny's hostile attitude in the playground. So again, i was being a little facetious with that sentence.
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I wouldn't like to have you around if I ever go through depression.
"Leave me alone, I just wanna die...
BANG !
-That's what he wan… moreted. He told me."
In my playthrough where I saved Kenny and went with him to Wellington (and left with him), he sure did not want to die anymore and seemed to enjoy life. Sometimes you feel like shit and like you deserve to die, doesn't mean you can't get better and enjoy life again.
but kenny can protect clem he s strong and he don t give up not like jane she left her sister behind she can leave clem also behind so i geuss let kenny kill her better
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The comments defending Kenny are not idiotic in the least. They are completely logical arguments. And really, if you're going to insult people like that you should really take the time to actually try and refute the argument. I personally would love to hear why you think Kenny deserved to die in that situation. I would love to have that discussion with you.
That's ridiculous and you know it. Do you honestly believe that? You really think Telltale was taking a dig at loyal Kenny fans? Like... wow. There is nothing to base that on, despite it being incredibly unlikely anyway.
Oh, so its totally okay for Jane to kill Kenny though? Or you to kill Kenny for her? You just admitted that Jane was the one who was originally wrong, as in you're admitting that she manipulated the situation, yet you're saying Kenny needed to die because of it? How does that make any sense? Jane instigated the fight, and all she did was escalate the situation into a fight to the death from there.
Why do you generalize so much in your arguments? Its so illogical. Clearly the Jane situation is very different from anything he did in Season Two. He got tricked into thinking she killed his baby so he got physical with her. Nowhere else in the season does anything close to this happen. He never threatens another member of the group in terms of intentionally trying to bring them harm.
Again, you're insulting without actually doing anything to back up your claims. How do you expect anyone to take that seriously?
Also, you can't reasonably think Kenny is a menace to the survival of others and yet possibly be totally okay with Jane in this area. Jane is manipulative, untrustworthy, selfish, and generally uncaring. She is totally willing to abandon people if she thinks they lessen her chances of personal survival. Her morality is very questionable. I'm not saying this makes Jane someone who is definitely a danger to Clem, but you can't possibly think of Kenny as a direct danger to Clem and yet be totally fine about Jane.
Determinate. You can stick up for Kenny if you want to. Bonnie wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and Mike just wanted to coddle Arvo for whatever reason. Jane had her personal agenda to work with.
You couldn't be more wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvw7_RTFsck
She said it was an accident. He charged, She pulled out her knife and said don't come near me. She then put her knife away, Kenny then charged her and she had enough.
First thing's last. Do not misconstrue "idiotic comments" to mean i was referring to people on the forums personally. Some of the comments are idiotic however, saying Jane deserves to rot in hell and choke on glass is VERY fucking idiotic.
Now, about the "Jane referring to the Kenny fans" thing. I was simply making a comparison to some of the stubborn comments i had seen being comparable to Kenny's hostile attitude in the playground. So again, i was being a little facetious with that sentence.
Yes, i agree with you. Jane absolutely planned to have Kenny fly off the handle in order to prove a rational point about his sanity being not only questionable, but also hanging on a thread. But, Kenny took the bait. He instantly became extremely hostile with her, without knowing fully what had happened in the first place. That's wrong, Belan, that's very wrong.
Again, the YOLO thing should have been a dead giveaway i was being facetious. But, yeah, go ahead and misconstrue that as well. It wouldn't be the first time.
I've always liked how people can misinterpret me saying Kenny was a danger to mean i went off with Jane, and that i like her. Things aren't black and white. I killed Kenny cause i was sick and tired of his anger constantly consuming him and putting people at danger. I don't understand how that's so hard to grasp? I left Jane as well, she may have been manipulating Clementine for Clementine's own safety. But i couldn't bring myself to forgive her. So i left on my own with AJ.
You can stick up for Kenny, but was Clementine the one refuting the accusations? Other than one or two options, Clementine mostly just says stuff like "I think we can fix him." That's not refuting, that's being more optimistic. Kenny showed hostility when addressed about his issues.
She had to have wanted him to charge her when she put the knife away... nothing else makes sense. He wasn't going to attack her while she had the knife out. That's why he just stood there. If the incident would have ended there, Jane would have proven pretty much nothing and would have looked like a total fool.
Think about it, when she says "Don't come near me" and puts her knife away, if Kenny would have actually done what she said, then her whole plan would have fallen apart. She fully expected Kenny to fight.
You're also ignoring the fact that Jane was still actively trying to kill Kenny even when he had disengaged from the fight after getting slashed across the stomach. The fight could have ended there. She was more interested in killing him though. It was not self defense at all at that point. From that point on, Kenny was the one who was actually fighting for his life.
Kind of hard not to misconstrue what you meant when you didn't express those feelings at all. All you said was "'I'm loving these idiotic comments about how Kenny was right in taking yet another life". Based on that sentence it looks like you were saying comments that support Kenny being right are idiotic comments. All good though.
You're not being realistic. Any parent who heavily suspects that their child has been murdered by someone is going to absolutely flip out on that individual. Based on Jane's character, there was reason to suspect her of abandoning the baby. Especially since she purposely did nothing to rationalize or explain, even when Kenny called her on it. There was no way Kenny was going to be completely calm and rational there. No way. Ideally you would like him to be more calm, but again, that just isn't realistic in the slightest.
No, it wasn't clear at all. It isn't our job as the readers to try and decipher hidden meaning behind your writing. There was literally no reason to assume you were being facetious. If you want to try getting a point across, try actually being clear in your meaning instead of pointlessly making it difficult and expecting everyone to follow what you're trying to say.
It isn't hard to grasp at all. If that is why you killed him, then more power to you. Doesn't change the fact that it was unfair to the character. His anger was never directly putting group members in danger in season two, outside of the altercation with Jane.
Well, I agree with that at least.
I was talking about sticking up for his opinions when no one else in the group would.
How else do they get back to their safe house? Obviously across the ice. The Russian guys were a lot heavier than Arvo, so he would know where they were crossing. He lead them across shallow ice, it broke. In a escape attempt.
I see the evil genius in this guy, you can't fool me. He knew what would happen. He knew one of the guys would fall, because they were the heaviest, why else would he start running. He got to the spot where he didn't want to fall in , because he KNEW what would happen so he started running.
He didn't lead anyone across the ice - also, we have no evidence as to whether Arvo knew where the shallow ice was or not, sure, he probably did walk across the ice a few times, but that doesn't he would remember off by heart where it's safe to walk across.
Also - he ran the moment zombies came; I don't know what Arvo reason's were for, but why would someone falling cause him to run?
..Okay - this is getting ridiculous. We need to stop, let's just agree to disagree - otherwise, we going to fill this page up with our arguments.
I agree, i wasn't expecting him to be entirely calm about it (hell, i was more confused than anything). But he wasn't thinking the situation through. Perhaps i think too much about certain things, but why did Kenny run outside for like twenty seconds and THEN come back in with the intent to harm Jane? It doesn't add up... That should've giving him time to explore solutions other than trying to hurt Jane... But, this is Kenny we're talking about.
Well, there was the episode three incident when Kenny was attacking Mike. Although he wasn't a group member at the time... Plus, his anger did indirectly put quite a few people in danger. Walter and Alvin (determinant) are big examples of indirect danger as well as him (determinately) putting everyone at danger at the end of episode 4 if he kills Rebecca. And although a lot of those are determinants, no other character has had as much indirect threat to people than Kenny, determinate or otherwise...
TEAM kenny fuck yeah
FCK JANE THE BITCH
JANE THE BITCH THE NEW NAME OF JANE
but kenny can protect clem he s strong and he don t give up not like jane she left her sister behind she can leave clem also behind so i geuss let kenny kill her better