That's not speculation seeing as how he did psychotic explosion many times and how's everyone been talking behind his back about it,Kenny knows that he already lost it,and he won't dragging them down for it.
That really isn't obvious at all. You're kind of just speculating at that. During the Wellington endings, he never says hes too dangerous to be around Clem. He only says she will be safer there.
"how could you not shoot this satan?"
That's not engaging others in discussion, that's throwing your view out there like it's fact and I said I shot him to point out I'm not saying he was a righteous man. Neither are saints and if all you saw was black and white good and evil then I feel sorry for you.
Baiting people is still a troll thing to do. Just saying:) I have trolled once or twice myself:p
That's not speculation seeing as how he did psychotic explosion many times and how's everyone been talking behind his back about it,Kenny knows that he already lost it,and he won't dragging them down for it.
she did sound like she was lying and she was, if she had a real story to tell she could have easily told it (and someone who was telling the truth would have), but because she was lying she had no story.
just because you didn't think she sounded like she was lying and that she was convincing, doesn't mean she sounded convincing to kenny or me
Let's keep this as professional as possible. I'm going to disregard the "and you are gullible" seeing as it adds nothing to the conversation… more at hand.
As I was saying, she had mere seconds to tell the entire story of the horrible, tragic event that happened before Kenny storms off. It's hard for people to even speak after a terrible event, let alone retell an entire tale on a mad man's whim. He didn't know she murdered him. It's as simple as that really.
this thread should be closed, you are one sick fuck @Lemoncakes, wanting a more brutal death than getting a knife in her chest, wtf.
ever… moreyone who even considered liking this thread should be ashamed of themselves
PS: do you want everyone to hate us Kenny fans, cause thats how you make everyone hate Kenny fans
PPS: get help
The part when he told Clem & AJ to leave him? that's obviously because he just realized he's a very dangerous man,only in my playthrough it took a gunshot to make him realized about that.
let's just get one fact straight. if it ain't clear to u, then you hate kenny thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much (which ain't fair).
kenny loves and cares about clementine more than jane does. and that's the ONLY reason i sided and went with kenny. yes, both have their advantages and disadvantages, kenny might snap at some point and cause trouble; and jane prefers to be alone the whole time (hell she said it. she wanted the baby dead, providing the excuse that he's gonna be trouble). who knows? she'll probably abandon clementine. we still do not entirely trust her (well, i still don't). she left once because she wanted to be alone, remember? hell, i ain't sure whether she returned for luke or the group, because she said "i probably shouldn't have returned" (or something like that) when luke died.
if she had a real story to tell she could have easily told it (and someone who was telling the truth would have), but because she was lying she had no story.
In the 5-10 seconds before Kenny went out into the storm and returned swinging with a kill on his mind? Preposterous. Retyping this is getting extremely tedious. There was no time to tell a story, especially to someone in his state of mind (eccentric, deranged, disengaged, discombobulated, zoned out, uninterested, predetermined, extremely and violently anxious, etc).
just because you didn't think she sounded like she was lying and that she was convincing, doesn't mean she sounded convincing to kenny or me
So you're saying justification for the horrible accusation was brought through what you (and Kenny) "think" she sounded like and what you (and Kenny) "think" she should have sounded like if innocent. With no actual evidence only self-evaluated conclusions based on nothing more than personal ideas of what someone should sound like in a completely unvisited scenario.
she did sound like she was lying and she was, if she had a real story to tell she could have easily told it (and someone who was telling the… more truth would have), but because she was lying she had no story.
just because you didn't think she sounded like she was lying and that she was convincing, doesn't mean she sounded convincing to kenny or me
That's great and all, but I don't think Clem would want to look if she could. With Carver it's a different story, she's got mixed feelings of revenge and the right way to punish someone, and wanting to see it happen would be as close to revenge as she'd get in that moment. With Jane, it's clear that the Team decided Clementine wouldn't come to the logical conclusion with the ambiguous circumstances, so while the player might already know what's going on, Clem doesn't.
Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die. Jane still means something to her, she still cares about Jane. Wanting to look would imply that Clem harbors ill will toward Jane on top of letting her die, and I'm sure that's not at all in her character.
well the point is that kenny didn't believe her, and as i said a person who was telling the truth would have told the true story.
just think about it for a second, before you try and repeat how jane is an excellent liar and nobody would think she was lying ever unless you wanted to think that, just think, if you had just let a baby get killed and the babies parent asked you what happened, wouldn't you say more than "it was an accident", you would make time to tell the full story, anybody who was telling the truth would insist on telling the story, so don't make out that she only had 15 seconds to tell the story, she gave herself less than 15 seconds because all she would say about it was that it was an accident.
i don't know if you have ever had anybody lie to you before (you obviously have and you are just making out that telling if somebody is lying is some magical power) but you don't need evidence to tell somebody is lying, and the fact is that she was lying, you are just arguing for no reason to justify killing kenny or your failure to detect a lie.
jane was testing kenny and she knew that being completely vague about the situation would make her sound suspicious and it would get kenny annoyed, while still (on the surface) seem like an innocent victim to clementine, she is smart enough to know that her tactics would make her look good to an innocent child and yet still be vague and suspicious enough to grown adult that it would rile up kenny.
her tactic was to basically say "i killed the baby" without actually saying it, so that after she had riled up kenny enough to fight her and she had killed him, she could say to clementine "look, he tried to kill me over an accident"
and she would seem like the innocent victim and the good person, while actually being very manipulative.
i don't know if you are being intentionally or unintentionally oblivious to the subtleties of lying and manipulation, but jane was being manipulative, she knew her unconvincing lies would annoy kenny and would make him think she had killed the baby, while at the same time she could claim innocence to clementine, and there is no point arguing that, because that is what happened, jane was lying and testing kenny and the baby wasn't dead.
you are arguing as if jane had no idea that what she was doing would be seen as suspicious and it even sounds like you have forgotten that she knew the baby was alive all along, remember she created the whole scenario to manipulate clementine into not trusting kenny, she isn't an innocent victim of a deranged man, she is the deranged manipulator of a psychologically fragile and near broken man and a child who has very few people that she can trust in a stressful situation.
she did sound like she was lying and she was,
Your opinion. I don't think she did.
if she had a real story to tell she could h… moreave easily told it (and someone who was telling the truth would have), but because she was lying she had no story.
In the 5-10 seconds before Kenny went out into the storm and returned swinging with a kill on his mind? Preposterous. Retyping this is getting extremely tedious. There was no time to tell a story, especially to someone in his state of mind (eccentric, deranged, disengaged, discombobulated, zoned out, uninterested, predetermined, extremely and violently anxious, etc).
just because you didn't think she sounded like she was lying and that she was convincing, doesn't mean she sounded convincing to kenny or me
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well the point is that kenny didn't believe her, and as i said a person who was telling the truth would have told the true story.
just th… moreink about it for a second, before you try and repeat how jane is an excellent liar and nobody would think she was lying ever unless you wanted to think that, just think, if you had just let a baby get killed and the babies parent asked you what happened, wouldn't you say more than "it was an accident", you would make time to tell the full story, anybody who was telling the truth would insist on telling the story, so don't make out that she only had 15 seconds to tell the story, she gave herself less than 15 seconds because all she would say about it was that it was an accident.
i don't know if you have ever had anybody lie to you before (you obviously have and you are just making out that telling if somebody is lying is some magical power) but you don't need evidence to tell somebody is lying, and the … [view original content]
I'm not trying to engage anyone in a discussion, it's a rhetorical question. The satan part was basically me saying that he looks evil, not talking about the blood part but his facial expression.
"how could you not shoot this satan?"
That's not engaging others in discussion, that's throwing your view out there like it's fact and I s… moreaid I shot him to point out I'm not saying he was a righteous man. Neither are saints and if all you saw was black and white good and evil then I feel sorry for you.
Baiting people is still a troll thing to do. Just saying:) I have trolled once or twice myself:p
It wasn't rhetorical because you put it online in a discussion. Also it's just your opinion he looks evil. Just like I think Jane looked completely batshit when she was going to kill Troy, but again that's not a fact it's just what I thought.
With all the negative stuff around here and you just putting that Kenny is satan IS a troll move.
I'm not trying to engage anyone in a discussion, it's a rhetorical question. The satan part was basically me saying that he looks evil, not talking about the blood part but his facial expression.
Also I'm not trying to bait nor troll.
It wasn't rhetorical because you put it online in a discussion. Also it's just your opinion he looks evil. Just like I think Jane looked com… morepletely batshit when she was going to kill Troy, but again that's not a fact it's just what I thought.
With all the negative stuff around here and you just putting that Kenny is satan IS a troll move.
this thread should be closed, you are one sick fuck @Lemoncakes, wanting a more brutal death than getting a knife in her chest, wtf.
ever… moreyone who even considered liking this thread should be ashamed of themselves
PS: do you want everyone to hate us Kenny fans, cause thats how you make everyone hate Kenny fans
PPS: get help
It is rhetorical... Yes, I know it's my opinion that he looks evil, I never denied that.
Nope It's not a troll move, again as I've said, it's a rhetorical question. "Would you go with the murderer Kenny or the innocent Jane"
Yes,redemption when I put a bullet in his gut,it feels so climatic,like putting down a rabid dog,best ending for Clem & AJ to start over… more in Howe's,rather than that frozen wasteland Wellington.
Your profile pic suits you too,stubborn old toad can't listen to Bigby's advice to get glamour as soon as possible,I'm glad I kick him to the farm.
You're just being childish now. It was rhetorical question meant to make people think about why they should've saved Jane. At that moment all we knew was that Jane accidentally killed the baby and Kenny was blinded by blood rage. Your definition of troll need some updating since you seem to not know what a troll is if you think I am one.
Jane is innocent??? I thought at the very least she was a liar but ok Ms rhetorical.
Would you rather murder the villainess Jane or the kind hearted father figure?
^^^See I can be rhetorical too (YOU'S A TROLL!)
That's great and all, but I don't think Clem would want to look if she could. With Carver it's a different story, she's got mixed feelings o… moref revenge and the right way to punish someone, and wanting to see it happen would be as close to revenge as she'd get in that moment. With Jane, it's clear that the Team decided Clementine wouldn't come to the logical conclusion with the ambiguous circumstances, so while the player might already know what's going on, Clem doesn't.
Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die. Jane still means something to her, she still cares about Jane. Wanting to look would imply that Clem harbors ill will toward Jane on top of letting her die, and I'm sure that's not at all in her character.
What player insight is needed to see it coming? Your choices are to shoot or do nothing. In terms of interacting with the conflict, being unable to decide is no different from looking away.
You said, "Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die." My point was that she can willingly let Jane die, because if you as the player don't make a choice her default action is to watch Jane die.
What player insight is needed to see it coming? Your choices are to shoot or do nothing. In terms of interacting with the conflict, being unable to decide is no different from looking away.
I said "willingly". When the timer runs out, it's assumed by the game that Clem doesn't know whether to shoot or look away and just ends up watching it happen. She certainly can, I just don't think she'd want to even if she did.
Default situations are like when Lee says nothing when it comes to the wire in the morgue and ends up getting his arm cut off anyway. Jane getting stabbed is also default. The controlled character's reactions to the situation however are not canon. Lee strongly affirms his participation in being amputated if the player chooses to have it cut off, but if the timer runs out the group decides it should be cut off and Lee quietly consents(that one's my favorite, but of course this is assuming that there is anyone there to make the decision for him). Jane gets stabbed whether Clem looks away or not, but that doesn't change the fact that she would want to look away(and does if the player chooses to), but can't because she can't make a conscious decision to end Kenny's life or accept Jane's death. Or freezes up, whatever.
You said, "Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die." My point was that she can willingly let Jane die, because if you as the player don't make a choice her default action is to watch Jane die.
Do you think she'd be more willing to just watch in a playthrough where she watched Carver's face get remodeled, generally sided with Kenny, and was angry at Jane over leaving, or just didn't completely like/trust her? I think the willingness of the Clem depends on how you played the season, and to some extent the things you did as Lee. A sweet and innocent Clem would obviously not by any means willingly watch Jane get stabbed, whether that means looking away or shooting Kenny is debatable, but an asshole Clem might not be nearly as phased.
I said "willingly". When the timer runs out, it's assumed by the game that Clem doesn't know whether to shoot or look away and just ends up … morewatching it happen. She certainly can, I just don't think she'd want to even if she did.
Default situations are like when Lee says nothing when it comes to the wire in the morgue and ends up getting his arm cut off anyway. Jane getting stabbed is also default. The controlled character's reactions to the situation however are not canon. Lee strongly affirms his participation in being amputated if the player chooses to have it cut off, but if the timer runs out the group decides it should be cut off and Lee quietly consents(that one's my favorite, but of course this is assuming that there is anyone there to make the decision for him). Jane gets stabbed whether Clem looks away or not, but that doesn't change the fact that she would want to look away(and does if the player chooses to), but can't because sh… [view original content]
But there's a lot of Loyal Kenny's fans so i wouldn't count on it , even tho that's the truth i still went with jane... coz it's not that i hate kenny so much.. i just wanted to let his suffering to end... and i don't even want to see kenny was going to gone more insane and violent.. i don't want to grow him like that way.. and i don't believe(ever) whatever those jane haters says...
Consider this. She's seen a lot since she left Savannah, but the timeskips imply that she was with Omid and Christa only, and then just with Christa, meaning they've never traveled with someone they didn't trust for a while and then had to kill them because of their distrust or suspicion, so what's going on with the cabin group, reuniting with Kenny, watching Carver die as a pseudo act of revenge, and having someone useful like Jane around whom she doesn't fully trust, are all very new experiences for her. The only reason I can think of for her to simply watch is that she's been in this situation before and also that she's used to the gruesome imagery that comes with it, but she's never encountered this situation before and the stress that's uniquely tied to it, and watching Carver get his face smashed in happened only a week at most earlier, if it happened at all.
I already explained why with Carver it was different. Carver had already done something to merit a desire for revenge, past tense. Generally agreeing with Kenny doesn't necessarily mean she agrees with his attempt to kill her, or that she hates Jane. The player is never offered the "I don't trust you to the point of wanting you dead" side of Clem, because she doesn't have it, at least not with Jane who's proven to be useful. What I see here is all of the possible negativity she could harbor against Jane united, none of which individually merit a desire to watch Jane die absent an acquisition of a sadist side, and even altogether they still don't. Clem's actions are decided by the player, as are some of her reactions or approaches(the baby, hugs, backtalk, sass, etc), but she's only malleable to a point. Wanting to watch the death of Jane, who genuinely has been sometimes helpful, nice, and caring, and who has done no wrong besides leaving(and with nothing, while Mike and Bonnie tried to take everything) is beyond that point.
Do you think she'd be more willing to just watch in a playthrough where she watched Carver's face get remodeled, generally sided with Kenny,… more and was angry at Jane over leaving, or just didn't completely like/trust her? I think the willingness of the Clem depends on how you played the season, and to some extent the things you did as Lee. A sweet and innocent Clem would obviously not by any means willingly watch Jane get stabbed, whether that means looking away or shooting Kenny is debatable, but an asshole Clem might not be nearly as phased.
I just want to throw it out there that I didn't mean to imply that agreeing with Kenny meant she wanted Jane dead as a result. I do see what you're getting at though. However, I was just thinking that after all of the awful events in Season 1 that she went through, and then all of the the awful events of Season 2, that maybe in certain playthroughs, dependent on the choices made, that she'd just be so generally jaded that watching another person die wouldn't really phase her anymore. Particularly the death of a person that she may not care for much, which is also dependent on choices. Just as an example, look at how well she took hacking Nick's head apart, or how one scene after seeing Luke's lifeless corpse at the bottom of a lake, it's possible for her to smile.
Consider this. She's seen a lot since she left Savannah, but the timeskips imply that she was with Omid and Christa only, and then just with… more Christa, meaning they've never traveled with someone they didn't trust for a while and then had to kill them because of their distrust or suspicion, so what's going on with the cabin group, reuniting with Kenny, watching Carver die as a pseudo act of revenge, and having someone useful like Jane around whom she doesn't fully trust, are all very new experiences for her. The only reason I can think of for her to simply watch is that she's been in this situation before and also that she's used to the gruesome imagery that comes with it, but she's never encountered this situation before and the stress that's uniquely tied to it, and watching Carver get his face smashed in happened only a week at most earlier, if it happened at all.
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That's not speculation seeing as how he did psychotic explosion many times and how's everyone been talking behind his back about it,Kenny knows that he already lost it,and he won't dragging them down for it.
"how could you not shoot this satan?"
That's not engaging others in discussion, that's throwing your view out there like it's fact and I said I shot him to point out I'm not saying he was a righteous man. Neither are saints and if all you saw was black and white good and evil then I feel sorry for you.
Baiting people is still a troll thing to do. Just saying:) I have trolled once or twice myself:p
That again is just speculation on your part. I'll say again, he never actually says anything about himself being a "very dangerous man".
This doesn't have anything to do with Kenny personally admitting to anything. It doesn't relate to his decision making in any way, as far as we know.
she did sound like she was lying and she was, if she had a real story to tell she could have easily told it (and someone who was telling the truth would have), but because she was lying she had no story.
just because you didn't think she sounded like she was lying and that she was convincing, doesn't mean she sounded convincing to kenny or me
Because, I like this "satan".
Sorry, but condoning murder is anything but a game. And I won't shut up, good day.
I like this post, but I'm glad she killed the Russian at the start, because it saved Kenny.
this thread should be closed, you are one sick fuck @Lemoncakes, wanting a more brutal death than getting a knife in her chest, wtf.
everyone who even considered liking this thread should be ashamed of themselves
PS: do you want everyone to hate us Kenny fans, cause thats how you make everyone hate Kenny fans
PPS: get help
it was a joke
Satan is awesome.
Read his posts throughout this thread. Its pretty obvious he's not being serious.
and you know that how?
maybe i was a bit too quick too judge, but finding this funny is still sick
wait, what the fuck is that supposed to mean dude? this is a game yo.
could u please show us how "obvious" that was?
sounds like it's coming from a hater tbh.
let's just get one fact straight. if it ain't clear to u, then you hate kenny thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much (which ain't fair).
kenny loves and cares about clementine more than jane does. and that's the ONLY reason i sided and went with kenny. yes, both have their advantages and disadvantages, kenny might snap at some point and cause trouble; and jane prefers to be alone the whole time (hell she said it. she wanted the baby dead, providing the excuse that he's gonna be trouble). who knows? she'll probably abandon clementine. we still do not entirely trust her (well, i still don't). she left once because she wanted to be alone, remember? hell, i ain't sure whether she returned for luke or the group, because she said "i probably shouldn't have returned" (or something like that) when luke died.
kenny is the b0$$
What's so funny about divine retribution? Smiting a deceitful thief is a civic duty in the apocalypse.
XD
I wish I let the timer run out.
Your opinion. I don't think she did.
In the 5-10 seconds before Kenny went out into the storm and returned swinging with a kill on his mind? Preposterous. Retyping this is getting extremely tedious. There was no time to tell a story, especially to someone in his state of mind (eccentric, deranged, disengaged, discombobulated, zoned out, uninterested, predetermined, extremely and violently anxious, etc).
So you're saying justification for the horrible accusation was brought through what you (and Kenny) "think" she sounded like and what you (and Kenny) "think" she should have sounded like if innocent. With no actual evidence only self-evaluated conclusions based on nothing more than personal ideas of what someone should sound like in a completely unvisited scenario.
That's great and all, but I don't think Clem would want to look if she could. With Carver it's a different story, she's got mixed feelings of revenge and the right way to punish someone, and wanting to see it happen would be as close to revenge as she'd get in that moment. With Jane, it's clear that the Team decided Clementine wouldn't come to the logical conclusion with the ambiguous circumstances, so while the player might already know what's going on, Clem doesn't.
Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die. Jane still means something to her, she still cares about Jane. Wanting to look would imply that Clem harbors ill will toward Jane on top of letting her die, and I'm sure that's not at all in her character.
well the point is that kenny didn't believe her, and as i said a person who was telling the truth would have told the true story.
just think about it for a second, before you try and repeat how jane is an excellent liar and nobody would think she was lying ever unless you wanted to think that, just think, if you had just let a baby get killed and the babies parent asked you what happened, wouldn't you say more than "it was an accident", you would make time to tell the full story, anybody who was telling the truth would insist on telling the story, so don't make out that she only had 15 seconds to tell the story, she gave herself less than 15 seconds because all she would say about it was that it was an accident.
i don't know if you have ever had anybody lie to you before (you obviously have and you are just making out that telling if somebody is lying is some magical power) but you don't need evidence to tell somebody is lying, and the fact is that she was lying, you are just arguing for no reason to justify killing kenny or your failure to detect a lie.
jane was testing kenny and she knew that being completely vague about the situation would make her sound suspicious and it would get kenny annoyed, while still (on the surface) seem like an innocent victim to clementine, she is smart enough to know that her tactics would make her look good to an innocent child and yet still be vague and suspicious enough to grown adult that it would rile up kenny.
her tactic was to basically say "i killed the baby" without actually saying it, so that after she had riled up kenny enough to fight her and she had killed him, she could say to clementine "look, he tried to kill me over an accident"
and she would seem like the innocent victim and the good person, while actually being very manipulative.
i don't know if you are being intentionally or unintentionally oblivious to the subtleties of lying and manipulation, but jane was being manipulative, she knew her unconvincing lies would annoy kenny and would make him think she had killed the baby, while at the same time she could claim innocence to clementine, and there is no point arguing that, because that is what happened, jane was lying and testing kenny and the baby wasn't dead.
you are arguing as if jane had no idea that what she was doing would be seen as suspicious and it even sounds like you have forgotten that she knew the baby was alive all along, remember she created the whole scenario to manipulate clementine into not trusting kenny, she isn't an innocent victim of a deranged man, she is the deranged manipulator of a psychologically fragile and near broken man and a child who has very few people that she can trust in a stressful situation.
TL; DR I'll try to find time to read and respond to this correctly over the weekend.
I'm not trying to engage anyone in a discussion, it's a rhetorical question. The satan part was basically me saying that he looks evil, not talking about the blood part but his facial expression.
Also I'm not trying to bait nor troll.
It wasn't rhetorical because you put it online in a discussion. Also it's just your opinion he looks evil. Just like I think Jane looked completely batshit when she was going to kill Troy, but again that's not a fact it's just what I thought.
With all the negative stuff around here and you just putting that Kenny is satan IS a troll move.
It is rhetorical... Yes, I know it's my opinion that he looks evil, I never denied that.
Nope It's not a troll move, again as I've said, it's a rhetorical question. "Would you go with the murderer Kenny or the innocent Jane"
Yep. I'm totally ashamed... TOTALLY..... -.-
Jane is innocent??? I thought at the very least she was a liar but ok Ms rhetorical.
Would you rather murder the villainess Jane or the kind hearted father figure?
^^^See I can be rhetorical too (YOU'S A TROLL!)
Frozen wasteland? did you see the other endings?
You're just being childish now. It was rhetorical question meant to make people think about why they should've saved Jane. At that moment all we knew was that Jane accidentally killed the baby and Kenny was blinded by blood rage. Your definition of troll need some updating since you seem to not know what a troll is if you think I am one.
It's a lack of player insight that causes this scene. You see her die if you don't press anything.
How do you know someone went with Kenny?
They won't shut the fuck up about Jane.
What player insight is needed to see it coming? Your choices are to shoot or do nothing. In terms of interacting with the conflict, being unable to decide is no different from looking away.
You said, "Without the insight of the player, Clem can't willingly look on while she lets Jane die." My point was that she can willingly let Jane die, because if you as the player don't make a choice her default action is to watch Jane die.
I said "willingly". When the timer runs out, it's assumed by the game that Clem doesn't know whether to shoot or look away and just ends up watching it happen. She certainly can, I just don't think she'd want to even if she did.
Default situations are like when Lee says nothing when it comes to the wire in the morgue and ends up getting his arm cut off anyway. Jane getting stabbed is also default. The controlled character's reactions to the situation however are not canon. Lee strongly affirms his participation in being amputated if the player chooses to have it cut off, but if the timer runs out the group decides it should be cut off and Lee quietly consents(that one's my favorite, but of course this is assuming that there is anyone there to make the decision for him). Jane gets stabbed whether Clem looks away or not, but that doesn't change the fact that she would want to look away(and does if the player chooses to), but can't because she can't make a conscious decision to end Kenny's life or accept Jane's death. Or freezes up, whatever.
Do you think she'd be more willing to just watch in a playthrough where she watched Carver's face get remodeled, generally sided with Kenny, and was angry at Jane over leaving, or just didn't completely like/trust her? I think the willingness of the Clem depends on how you played the season, and to some extent the things you did as Lee. A sweet and innocent Clem would obviously not by any means willingly watch Jane get stabbed, whether that means looking away or shooting Kenny is debatable, but an asshole Clem might not be nearly as phased.
But there's a lot of Loyal Kenny's fans so i wouldn't count on it
, even tho that's the truth i still went with jane... coz it's not that i hate kenny so much.. i just wanted to let his suffering to end... and i don't even want to see kenny was going to gone more insane and violent.. i don't want to grow him like that way.. and i don't believe(ever) whatever those jane haters says...
Still Sticking with my own choices
Consider this. She's seen a lot since she left Savannah, but the timeskips imply that she was with Omid and Christa only, and then just with Christa, meaning they've never traveled with someone they didn't trust for a while and then had to kill them because of their distrust or suspicion, so what's going on with the cabin group, reuniting with Kenny, watching Carver die as a pseudo act of revenge, and having someone useful like Jane around whom she doesn't fully trust, are all very new experiences for her. The only reason I can think of for her to simply watch is that she's been in this situation before and also that she's used to the gruesome imagery that comes with it, but she's never encountered this situation before and the stress that's uniquely tied to it, and watching Carver get his face smashed in happened only a week at most earlier, if it happened at all.
I already explained why with Carver it was different. Carver had already done something to merit a desire for revenge, past tense. Generally agreeing with Kenny doesn't necessarily mean she agrees with his attempt to kill her, or that she hates Jane. The player is never offered the "I don't trust you to the point of wanting you dead" side of Clem, because she doesn't have it, at least not with Jane who's proven to be useful. What I see here is all of the possible negativity she could harbor against Jane united, none of which individually merit a desire to watch Jane die absent an acquisition of a sadist side, and even altogether they still don't. Clem's actions are decided by the player, as are some of her reactions or approaches(the baby, hugs, backtalk, sass, etc), but she's only malleable to a point. Wanting to watch the death of Jane, who genuinely has been sometimes helpful, nice, and caring, and who has done no wrong besides leaving(and with nothing, while Mike and Bonnie tried to take everything) is beyond that point.
I just want to throw it out there that I didn't mean to imply that agreeing with Kenny meant she wanted Jane dead as a result. I do see what you're getting at though. However, I was just thinking that after all of the awful events in Season 1 that she went through, and then all of the the awful events of Season 2, that maybe in certain playthroughs, dependent on the choices made, that she'd just be so generally jaded that watching another person die wouldn't really phase her anymore. Particularly the death of a person that she may not care for much, which is also dependent on choices. Just as an example, look at how well she took hacking Nick's head apart, or how one scene after seeing Luke's lifeless corpse at the bottom of a lake, it's possible for her to smile.
Yay.