Please take this to stop the hate: Survey of TWDG forum (this one's different!) UPDATE:Some Results!

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  • Thank you! :D

    Great ! Once again, looking forward to your conclusions. Good idea you had there !

  • All this will do once the final results are posted is it will make people feel bad for liking their ending and being in the minority of that.

  • Then I shall replay episode 5 Chapter 10 and shoot Kenny over and over as a form of protest :D

    Flog61 posted: »

    All this will do once the final results are posted is it will make people feel bad for liking their ending and being in the minority of that.

  • edited September 2014

    Do you really think so? :/ That wasn't my intention at all; I don't want to make anyone feel bad. In fact, my ending was in the minority (heck all my survey answers were in the minority), and I feel better after looking through these results. I'm just trying to gather data and make sense of it. I can't change it if I am in the minority, but I'll deal with it how I can--with more knowledge so I can understand people not like me! haha. I also want to show that perhaps those we thought were extreme aren't as much as we first thought. Maybe I feel better because I've started cross-analyzing it further than the results above, but I'll post that a little later. Also I actually made a mistake and never asked a clear question of "What was your actual ending?" in the survey so that answer isn't actually in the results. But how is taking this survey any worse than comparing your ending to TT's official results? :(

    Also if you wanted to see the results so far (it's posted above in the OP) it looks like 51% like Kenny, but a close 40% like Luke for Q7. In my analysis I've found that of the 51 people who liked Kenny the most, 45% of them identify with Kenny and 45% of them identify with Luke, completely even. Of these same 51, 84% like Luke and 52% like Jane. I honestly wasn't expecting those numbers to be so high, but I'm glad to be pleasantly surprised.

    Flog61 posted: »

    All this will do once the final results are posted is it will make people feel bad for liking their ending and being in the minority of that.

  • Why would you feel bad if you're in the minority

    Flog61 posted: »

    All this will do once the final results are posted is it will make people feel bad for liking their ending and being in the minority of that.

  • Haha because sometimes it's no fun being alone. You feel misunderstood, or that no one agrees with you. There might be no one to talk with that you can express yourself to and have someone understand what you're saying. Sometimes people will even make a villain out of you unfairly. I'm a minority ethnically speaking too, so I always know how it feels to be the odd man out. It's not always a big deal, but sometimes it is unfortunately.

    But you can also celebrate your differences too. If everyone was the same, the world would be a pretty boring place. To see something from someone else's viewpoint or someone else's culture can often be a breath of fresh air, if you let it.

    Why would you feel bad if you're in the minority

  • Because it leads to bullying.

    That's why nerdy kids are bullied at schoo. Because they're 'different'.

    The confidence of the kenny fans in the bad-mouthing and rudeness that many of them demonstrate is probably because they like the fact that the forum is pro kenny. They compete for upvotes, they bandwagon spouting the same torrid jokes and the same torrid memes.

    This is the first time the Kenny fans have felt challenged, due to most people shooting Kenny. As a result they panic, and try to claim all kinds of things and insult other users.

    Polls like this will never bring anything other than making people feel bad

    Why would you feel bad if you're in the minority

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    Because it leads to bullying.

    This is absolutely true as well.

    Polls like this will never bring anything other than making people feel bad

    I'm really sorry you feel this way. :( Would you please explain further? Who (which minority) will feel bad exactly? The Kenny fans? The Jane fans like us? Maybe I can rectify the situation.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Because it leads to bullying. That's why nerdy kids are bullied at schoo. Because they're 'different'. The confidence of the kenny fan

  • I don't see why that's any of our concern. Some insecurities are unreasonable.

    Flog61 posted: »

    All this will do once the final results are posted is it will make people feel bad for liking their ending and being in the minority of that.

  • Some are, but some insecurities aren't unreasonable. You should always be concerned about the well-being of a fellow person.

    Skiba7671 posted: »

    I don't see why that's any of our concern. Some insecurities are unreasonable.

  • If someone is being hassled by someone else because of this poll I can help. If someone looks at the poll and feels bad it's something they need to work on.

    sialark posted: »

    Some are, but some insecurities aren't unreasonable. You should always be concerned about the well-being of a fellow person.

  • Whichever minority comes into being. The effects of feeling in the minority can be seen from the way many Kenny fans have acted after this episode: they were so used to thinking everyone agrred with them ,then BAM< minority time, crack out the death threats, start saying Lee hates you if you shoot him etc. etc.

    I know how it feels to be in a minority. And it sucks.

    Life has enough real minorities. There's no need to make people feel liek that when it's unnecessary.

    That's my opinion :)

    sialark posted: »

    Because it leads to bullying. This is absolutely true as well. Polls like this will never bring anything other than making peo

  • And if they feel bad when they see it because they know people will treat them bad because of it?

    Skiba7671 posted: »

    If someone is being hassled by someone else because of this poll I can help. If someone looks at the poll and feels bad it's something they need to work on.

  • Great survey! I'm not going to bore everyone by posting all my choices, but in a nutshell:

    I liked Kenny, Luke, and Jane for different reasons. Identified with Jane because I'm a female & believe "have to be tough to survive."

    1st ending: Shot Kenny (cried) went with Jane & let family in. Rational of staying with Jane was best survival chance despite betrayal. Didn't want to lose humanity so let family in.

    Preferred ending: Kenny lives, Jane dies, leave Kenny at Wellington - rational was simply more emotional/better ending (but only because Telltale wrote it that way.) Kenny's actions reasonably justified by "discovery" but still stand by original ending since I couldn't just stand by doing nothing & did feel Kenny was at breaking point.

  • Why does that matter if they aren't actually being treated badly? How hypersensitive do we need to be?

    Flog61 posted: »

    And if they feel bad when they see it because they know people will treat them bad because of it?

  • edited September 2014

    Well I honestly think it's good for people to be in a minority sometimes, especially if they never had been before. Then they get the chance to see what it's like. Even if it's not the most ideal situation to be in, it can still be a good learning experience. Sure not everyone's reaction will be the best the first time, but there are definitely some people who are learning from it that we just don't hear from. (About 28% of the people who took my survey never comment anywhere here! But they still have an opinion.)

    I know how it feels to be a minority too. Thankfully it doesn't usually suck for me. My parents are both from India, and during the 9/11 attacks I was honestly pretty scared for them bc they both worked in NYC at the time. Recently my dad was attacked in NYC for no good reason and was hospitalized for two days. We're not sure if it was a hate crime, but it was pretty scary whatever happened (he had amnesia so we don't know.)

    But just because choosing an unpopular "not real" game choice puts you in a minority doesn't mean we can't practice dealing with being in a minority for real. There's no reason to shy away from them (you can if you want), but confronting them is healthier in my opinion.

    I respect you and I respect your opinion :) but that's mine. :p

    Flog61 posted: »

    Whichever minority comes into being. The effects of feeling in the minority can be seen from the way many Kenny fans have acted after this e

  • But the problem is, the people that this survey will make feel in the minority for their opinions are the Jane fans, a group who has already had that shoved down their throat and has clung to the statistics as their only hope.

    sialark posted: »

    Well I honestly think it's good for people to be in a minority sometimes, especially if they never had been before. Then they get the chance

  • Thank you for your post and your opinion. ;)

    AngryZombie posted: »

    Great survey! I'm not going to bore everyone by posting all my choices, but in a nutshell: I liked Kenny, Luke, and Jane for different re

  • I love being in the minority. The majority loves Michael Bay movies. The Majority thinks Twilight is a good book / movie... The majority brings us reality tv and shitty pop music.

    I'll wear the minority badge with pride!

    Flog61 posted: »

    Whichever minority comes into being. The effects of feeling in the minority can be seen from the way many Kenny fans have acted after this e

  • Apparently at the age of 23 I'm old.

    Go figure

  • Duck it, if everyone does it (noone reads this anyway lol :D)

    I will mostly say Kenny. However, I do like Luke, I just like Kenny more. I can almost see the posts before my eye already: 'It was so obvious many people would choose Kenny, ...'
    Well, it's a good survey, but there isn't much room for interpretation. Kenny, Luke or Jane? In all three questions Kenny. It just is my opinion.

    Q1=male

    Q2=14-17 (17)

    Q3=Let Kenny kill Jane, leave with Kenny, stay at Wellington with AJ

    Q4=Let Kenny kill Jane, leave with Kenny, stay at Wellington with AJ

    Q5=Kenny

    Q6=Kenny

    Q7=Kenny

    Q8=I like Kenny and Luke

    Q9=1-33% I guess...maybe more, but that’s what I answered.

    Q10=Clem and AJ in Wellington

    Q1 = Male Q2 = 30+ (31) Q3 = First ending before rewinding: Left Wellington with Kenny Q4 = Preferred ending: Left Wellington with

  • Then I'll do the same with letting him stab Jane

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    remorse667 posted: »

    Then I shall replay episode 5 Chapter 10 and shoot Kenny over and over as a form of protest

  • I'm surprised I was one of the very few females that took this survey. Not that many.. anyways, nice job on making the survey.

  • edited September 2014

    Dude, you know I'm a Jane fan too right? D: In fact, the whole reason I made this poll and this thread was to deal with how I felt isolated because I am a Jane fan. (I really wish I had the energy to defend her everywhere I see someone badmouth her unfairly like you do, but I just don't. -_- Even though I do sometimes and could probably open up a can of serious whoop-ass if I wanted to lol.) But like I was saying, I made this poll bc I was feeling low about my opinion. I also couldn't understand why some people felt the way they did, so I wanted to see their perspective, and the Kenny vs. Jane threads were too full of acidic crud to sort through for me to find those reasons. A survey like this won't nearly help me understand people's perspectives as well as if I talked to them one-on-one, but it's a small step.

    I've already accepted that the Jane fans are in the minority [here, at least] and I've accepted that she isn't too popular. Maybe that's why I'm not clinging to statistics, because I am fine being in the minority. You must see a lot more acidic stuff than I do, just because I don't go through those threads all the time, and that must be really wearing on you. :( But I'm a realist [must be why I relate to Jane so much lol] and as a realist, I know if people don't like Jane, then they don't like Jane. They're wrong in my humble opinion but I'm not always going to try to change their minds. And I still respect their opinions. Y'know Jane wouldn't give a shit about random people not liking her, right? ;)

    I always find solace in knowledge. Whether it's finding out more about an unknown medical condition or trying to find out why I unwittingly upset a friend or researching career options for my future, more knowledge always helps me feel better. People are afraid of the unknown, and that fear sometimes turns into hate. By finding out more about each other, I think we can disperse this hate and ill feelings that come along with it. Lol cue cheesy music.

    Some more unreasonably hateful (possibly younger or just immature) fans here will get older and learn to treat others better. Some won't. There's not that much we can do about it now, but we can try. And you're fighting the good fight there. ;)

    I've accepted Jane isn't that popular. But I can't help still loving her. And I still think my opinion rocks. I honestly think your opinion rocks too Flog, and you shouldn't let the haters getcha down. :) [lol not trying to be cheesy here] Everyone else's opinion is great too! haha. Oh, there's the cheese. Break out the wine for all this cheeese.

    You don't have to look at my poll and I won't quote my statistics to you anymore, and I won't force you to look at my extended results when they're up. But I won't be changing my survey, because I honestly think it will be more beneficial than detrimental for all of us.

    P.S. You know I think you're awesome right? I wasn't lying before. :p

    Flog61 posted: »

    But the problem is, the people that this survey will make feel in the minority for their opinions are the Jane fans, a group who has already had that shoved down their throat and has clung to the statistics as their only hope.

  • I'm 25 dude. What can ya do haha * shrugs *

    GrayWolf posted: »

    Apparently at the age of 23 I'm old. Go figure

  • Haha yeah man! I love alternative rock and reading novels people have never heard of (I guess I'm a hipster but why is that bad exactly?) and having my own opinion. I love being different. :)

    Rockworm posted: »

    I love being in the minority. The majority loves Michael Bay movies. The Majority thinks Twilight is a good book / movie... The majority brings us reality tv and shitty pop music. I'll wear the minority badge with pride!

  • Its not about being a hipster. I'm just pointing out that the Majority as an argument for quality is meaningless.

    sialark posted: »

    Haha yeah man! I love alternative rock and reading novels people have never heard of (I guess I'm a hipster but why is that bad exactly?) and having my own opinion. I love being different.

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    Thanks for your response. :) And I think there's plenty to interpret!

    Duck it, if everyone does it (noone reads this anyway lol ) I will mostly say Kenny. However, I do like Luke, I just like Kenny more. I c

  • If they feel bad about meaningless statistics than thats their problem. Am I bullying Halo fans by telling them more people like Call of Duty?

    Flog61 posted: »

    And if they feel bad when they see it because they know people will treat them bad because of it?

  • DUDE! I'm 31! I'm a fucking dinosaur!

    sialark posted: »

    I'm 25 dude. What can ya do haha * shrugs *

  • Haha no I was just speaking hypothetically sorry. :p Totally agreed with you! :D

    Rockworm posted: »

    Its not about being a hipster. I'm just pointing out that the Majority as an argument for quality is meaningless.

  • Thanks! I was under the impression from other polls that there were very few females here to begin with?

    And unfortunately surveymonkey will only show the first 100 responses. There are 193 right now but we can't see the last 93. I'm working on getting those responses back though. :)

    kawaiiclem posted: »

    I'm surprised I was one of the very few females that took this survey. Not that many.. anyways, nice job on making the survey.

  • Hahaha I legit lol'd! All kids want to be dinosaurs when they grow up! ;)

    Rockworm posted: »

    DUDE! I'm 31! I'm a fucking dinosaur!

  • You guys are both sillyy. :p

    Then I'll do the same with letting him stab Jane

  • edited September 2014

    Hahahahaha frickin awesome ;)

    Ellias posted: »

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  • Bump! Would like to get results from all over the world, not just some places. :)

    • I remember that . Those people are crazy.
    Rockworm posted: »

    This is very tame as far as heated arugments go. I was in the Bioware forums when Mass Effect 3 came out. It devolved into death threats.

  • Wow. I'm actually surprised at what ending was the most common. Even letting in the suspicious family just to be nice. If you're gonna go with Jane, you should at least learn something from her, I think.

  • yeah right stop the jane vs kenny thread it's getting fucking ridiculous

    the haters, the fans

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