there are a lot of Kenny fan freaks out there he can kill or rape clementine and there'll still love him it's blind obedience.so don't worry… more whether they say there just sheep.
Down vote button, why have you forsaken me? I suppose a gif will have to suffice.
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The baby was never in any danger... Walkers were frozen and it was safer inside the car than outside. Since we are making assumptions, what if Kenny found the baby, but decided to take advantage of the situation and kill Jane? Now even i know that sounds crazy, but Kenny fans sound just like that when they are trying to convince me that Jane wants to murder Kenny on purpose.
Any person who just escaped from bunch of walkers and walked through blizzard and lost a baby there would not be able to speak because they are shocked (that if Jane was actually speaking true). She gave Kenny time to go outside and make up some fucked up conclusions and he tried to punch her before even asking her to be more clear about what happened.
A point that consisted of her putting a baby's life in danger, lying to Clem, and taking advantage/manipulating Kenny into believing AJ is d… moreead, which is of course going to cause him to lose it, exactly as she planned. She had plenty of time to explain when he asked her "what are you saying?", she purposely stays quiet so he'll draw to the conclusion that AJ is dead and that she had something to do with it due to the lack of evidence supporting that it was an accident, and her refusal to give up any information. And again, she planned this from the beginning when she hid AJ in the car, she knew what was coming when she told Kenny, she wanted it to happen so she had an excuse to kill him whilst looking like a saint to Clem. Until Clem learns the truth that is.
He actually managed to bring her to safety in his endings, and I think an overrun Howe's or whatever it was called isn't going to mirror a community with gigantic walls and people.
The time to explain herself was when she walked in (as you can't say she was distraught or emotional cuz that's just an act that disappears the second Kenny leaves.) Not after Kenny has already assumed what happened since she didn't explain. She doesn't even explain it to Clem because Clem may not have let her get a chance to prove her point.
You seem to be bringing only a small portion of the arguments me and Tinni told you, go look through the comments again and tell me that it's really "all you ever see them saying".
-Blinded by the truth
-Close-minded
-Ignorant
-Pathetic and rude
-Lack logic in their comments
-Stubborn
@Tinni Can you please help me reasoning with this man? It seems like you were right, they really are lacking a brain at the moment.
Like i said, she was acting shocked & emotional... Before Kenny even came back he made up his mind (that crazy angry look) without even caring to listen her side of the story.
The time to explain herself was when she walked in (as you can't say she was distraught or emotional cuz that's just an act that disappears … morethe second Kenny leaves.) Not after Kenny has already assumed what happened since she didn't explain. She doesn't even explain it to Clem because Clem may not have let her get a chance to prove her point.
The baby was never in any danger... Walkers were frozen and it was safer inside the car than outside. Since we are making assumptions, what … moreif Kenny found the baby, but decided to take advantage of the situation and kill Jane? Now even i know that sounds crazy, but Kenny fans sound just like that when they are trying to convince me that Jane wants to murder Kenny on purpose.
Any person who just escaped from bunch of walkers and walked through blizzard and lost a baby there would not be able to speak because they are shocked (that if Jane was actually speaking true). She gave Kenny time to go outside and make up some fucked up conclusions and he tried to punch her before even asking her to be more clear about what happened.
You seem to be bringing only a small portion of the arguments me and Tinni told you, go look through the comments again and tell me that it'… mores really "all you ever see them saying".
-Blinded by the truth
-Close-minded
-Ignorant
-Pathetic and rude
-Lack logic in their comments
-Stubborn
@Tinni Can you please help me reasoning with this man? It seems like you were right, they really are lacking a brain at the moment.
She was LYING. There were no tv cameras nor were they in a play so not acting...LYING. Real life hid the baby, gave no excuses, then said it was an accident (LIE since she purposely put the baby in the car and he was still alive.)
Like i said, she was acting shocked & emotional... Before Kenny even came back he made up his mind (that crazy angry look) without even caring to listen her side of the story.
My post wasn't just directed to you and Tinni, it was directed to all Pro-Kenny fans in this thread.
@Tinni Can you please help me reasoning with this man? It seems like you were right, they really are lacking a brain at the moment.
Yes... Jane is a liar. But Kenny had no point to believe otherwise than what she said... Kenny was the one who tried to punch her and accuse her for murdering AJ and she defended herself by saying "it was an accident Kenny"
She was LYING. There were no tv cameras nor were they in a play so not acting...LYING. Real life hid the baby, gave no excuses, then said it… more was an accident (LIE since she purposely put the baby in the car and he was still alive.)
Jane is a LIAR<<<FACT
"OMGURRRD JANE IS SO SELFISH!!!"
This was directed to you though, seeing as you refuse to accept that she isn't selfish even though I proved it. Some people...
So she defended herself by lying again. What was your point again?? I already agree Jane shouldn't have died by his hands!!
I'm only pointing out the obvious which is that neither were innocent in the situation. That's my only point. Not saying team kenny or fuck Jane, I'm not!! Only pointing out that both could've stopped the fight long before someone died! Meaning both were wrong/at fault for their own choices/actions.
Yes... Jane is a liar. But Kenny had no point to believe otherwise than what she said... Kenny was the one who tried to punch her and accuse her for murdering AJ and she defended herself by saying "it was an accident Kenny"
She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've happend then.
She teaches Clem new survival skills
She gives Clem a nail file which saves her life in ep 5
She cares for the group to steal meds from some random guy who has a sick sister
She saves Kenny and the group from Vitali
She saves Clementine when she is about to freeze to death. She risks her life to save Clem, she ran on the ice lake which could've broke any minute. She made the fire for Clem and got her warm with HER NAIL FILE/MATCHES.
She saves Clem from Mike and Bonnie and Arvo ( Sure Kenny helped but if only Kenny was there they wouldve overpowered Kenny and stole the truck )
She takes care of the baby 2 times
She tries to do the best for Clem by revealing who Kenny really is and what he would if the baby died
If you let her live she will take you to Howes and you will find food and baby formula, plus the building is safe from any walkers.
She only met Clem for a couple of weeks and she already did more than Kenny would ever do/ever did. Infact Kenny always broke the group apart while Jane helped the group. Jane doesn't own anything to the group and she has the right to leave any time she wants but she came back for the group and that's why I saved her.
I did prove shit so stop being ignorant, close-minded, and stubborn.
She was saying he died so Kenny blamed her since she had the baby and had shown her distaste for it even being around and a priority for the group. Kenny never said I saw Aj dead you killed him so no lie. It was more a rash statement from a super crazed former father.
And Kenny is bullshit detector 2000? She was very convincing with her acting (imo) and at that point, Kenny had no reason to think otherwise.
After going outside, he made up this lie that Jane actually murdered AJ.
If you realise that as a truth, then why do you continue to argue with people here?
If you acknowledge that nothing will be changed, then what's the point? And how does that reconcile with the aforementioned words of advice you just imparted upon me?
I didn't say you said it, I just wanted to make it clear.
No I don't like fighting, but I do like seeing ridiculous excuses like the ones… more ErenCoral made and disproving them.
And yes, you can start an argument with me right now about how he is right and I am wrong, but it's not going to change anything is it.
You seem to be bringing only a small portion of the arguments me and Tinni told you, go look through the comments again and tell me that it'… mores really "all you ever see them saying".
-Blinded by the truth
-Close-minded
-Ignorant
-Pathetic and rude
-Lack logic in their comments
-Stubborn
@Tinni Can you please help me reasoning with this man? It seems like you were right, they really are lacking a brain at the moment.
Personally, I really like Kenny. He has been the longest surviving character through all of the episodes, (apart from Clem) and I guess I have a soft spot for him, as he was my friend as Lee, and then a familiar and comforting face when I was Clem.
Yes he has his faults, and in extreme circumstances, good people do bad things.
He has lost so much and many weaker men would have lost it long before Kenny started to break down. Its only human nature, the mind can only take so much.
I chose to let Kenny kill Jane, not because I didn't like her, but because I didn't really know her and my gut was telling me that Kenny needed Clem more than Jane, I'm a believer in Fate (yes I know its a game) and for Clem to find Kenny and then kill him, didn't sit right with me.
Yes, Kenny did over react, but due to the facts that were presented to him. Jane pre-meditated that situation, which I didn't think was fair or right.
I chose to leave Wellington with Kenny and in my heart know it was the right decision.
People will get passionate about this, and relate differently to the characters. Nobody should be told that who they like is wrong, as it is a decision made from your heart as you get attached to your characters. So who ever you chose was right for you!
Why? Because I know that what you will say won't ever change what I think of it, but I believe that I can try and explain it to someone else, I'm not stopping you, but I don't think you'll change anything. I can at least try.
Do you have that in a more Shakespearean form? Are you trying to impress people with words like "aforementioned" or "imparted upon me"? It looks like you are
'It's not going to change anything is it'
If you realise that as a truth, then why do you continue to argue with people here?
If you a… morecknowledge that nothing will be changed, then what's the point? And how does that reconcile with the aforementioned words of advice you just imparted upon me?
I stopped reading this comment after the word "retarded".
I don't bother wasting my time on people who use this word like that, you're a very dumb person, you should be ashamed.
I'll quote Kenny on this one: "I oughtta slap you", you need some good fucking sense to be knocked into you.
And I'm ignorant.
EDIT: Now that I read the rest of it, Kenny saying "you made the right choice" doesn't prove anything, he thought AJ is dead, he thought his hope was lost and he was fucking dying, he wanted to give up.
Thanks for dragging me in your argument. Please stop being so close-minded and actually read and understand my posts, okay? I don't see why you still fail to realize that Jane isn't selfish instead Kenny is. You fail to prove me wrong in any way. All the Pro-Kenny fans here keep re-posting the same damn points after I've addressed them, multiple times. Arguing with you is like arguing with Kenny.
I didn't say you said it, I just wanted to make it clear.
No I don't like fighting, but I do like seeing ridiculous excuses like the ones… more ErenCoral made and disproving them.
And yes, you can start an argument with me right now about how he is right and I am wrong, but it's not going to change anything is it.
Jane:
* She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed… more another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
* She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
* She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
* She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
* She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
* She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've … [view original content]
Kenny is dead in both of my playthroughs. Im assuming there is a third ending where Kenny survives. But don't feel like replaying the entire episode to get to find out. Without giving too much away, is it even worth it?
Thanks for dragging me in your argument. Please stop being so close-minded and actually read and understand my posts, okay? I don't see why … moreyou still fail to realize that Jane isn't selfish instead Kenny is. You fail to prove me wrong in any way. All the Pro-Kenny fans here keep re-posting the same damn points after I've addressed them, multiple times. Arguing with you is like arguing with Kenny.
You acknowledge that what anyone says won't change what you think.
The people debating this passionately with you almost certainly feel exactly the same way.
There is absolutely no point. Believe me, I have frequently attempted to debate on this forum. It doesn't work/ No-one will ever change their opinions by hearing some random person blabbing about it on the internet.
And no, that's how I speak. I did classics at a high-up university and thus adopted the broad technical vocabulary required to be able to accurately translate Latin or Greek as if it were nothing but disguised English.
If you genuinely think that 'aforementioned' is a shade off of Shakespearean form, then you need to take a trip to the Globe and see some Shakespeare plays.
Thanks for making fun of the way I write though, that makes me more inclined to listen to what you have to say.
Why? Because I know that what you will say won't ever change what I think of it, but I believe that I can try and explain it to someone else… more, I'm not stopping you, but I don't think you'll change anything. I can at least try.
Do you have that in a more Shakespearean form? Are you trying to impress people with words like "aforementioned" or "imparted upon me"? It looks like you are
Kenny is dead in both of my playthroughs. Im assuming there is a third ending where Kenny survives. But don't feel like replaying the entire episode to get to find out. Without giving too much away, is it even worth it?
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I never said popular is the same as good....
You seem to be looking for a fight to be honest. I mean, my remark was purely factual.
She's so dumb it's funny.
Here you go, I just use this:
The baby was never in any danger... Walkers were frozen and it was safer inside the car than outside. Since we are making assumptions, what if Kenny found the baby, but decided to take advantage of the situation and kill Jane? Now even i know that sounds crazy, but Kenny fans sound just like that when they are trying to convince me that Jane wants to murder Kenny on purpose.
Any person who just escaped from bunch of walkers and walked through blizzard and lost a baby there would not be able to speak because they are shocked (that if Jane was actually speaking true). She gave Kenny time to go outside and make up some fucked up conclusions and he tried to punch her before even asking her to be more clear about what happened.
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He actually managed to bring her to safety in his endings, and I think an overrun Howe's or whatever it was called isn't going to mirror a community with gigantic walls and people.
The time to explain herself was when she walked in (as you can't say she was distraught or emotional cuz that's just an act that disappears the second Kenny leaves.) Not after Kenny has already assumed what happened since she didn't explain. She doesn't even explain it to Clem because Clem may not have let her get a chance to prove her point.
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I didn't say you said it, I just wanted to make it clear.
No I don't like fighting, but I do like seeing ridiculous excuses like the ones ErenCoral made and disproving them.
And yes, you can start an argument with me right now about how he is right and I am wrong, but it's not going to change anything is it.
You seem to be bringing only a small portion of the arguments me and Tinni told you, go look through the comments again and tell me that it's really "all you ever see them saying".
@Tinni Can you please help me reasoning with this man? It seems like you were right, they really are lacking a brain at the moment.
Like i said, she was acting shocked & emotional... Before Kenny even came back he made up his mind (that crazy angry look) without even caring to listen her side of the story.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzWaT03a0GA
Les smoek da weed togethar!
She didn't lose the baby, she hid him, so being emotional doesn't excuse anything since she was ACTING like she was emotional. In other words LYING!
My post wasn't just directed to you and Tinni, it was directed to all Pro-Kenny fans in this thread.
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She was LYING. There were no tv cameras nor were they in a play so not acting...LYING. Real life hid the baby, gave no excuses, then said it was an accident (LIE since she purposely put the baby in the car and he was still alive.)
Jane is a LIAR<<<FACT
We be
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And Kenny is bullshit detector 2000? She was very convincing with her acting (imo) and at that point, Kenny had no reason to think otherwise.
After going outside, he made up this lie that Jane actually murdered AJ.
No shit :l
This was directed to you though, seeing as you refuse to accept that she isn't selfish even though I proved it. Some people...
Yes... Jane is a liar. But Kenny had no point to believe otherwise than what she said... Kenny was the one who tried to punch her and accuse her for murdering AJ and she defended herself by saying "it was an accident Kenny"
You didn't prove shit bro, and I won't accept your biased opinion..
You're right, some people really do amaze me.
So she defended herself by lying again. What was your point again?? I already agree Jane shouldn't have died by his hands!!
I'm only pointing out the obvious which is that neither were innocent in the situation. That's my only point. Not saying team kenny or fuck Jane, I'm not!! Only pointing out that both could've stopped the fight long before someone died! Meaning both were wrong/at fault for their own choices/actions.
I did prove shit so stop being ignorant, close-minded, and stubborn.
She was saying he died so Kenny blamed her since she had the baby and had shown her distaste for it even being around and a priority for the group. Kenny never said I saw Aj dead you killed him so no lie. It was more a rash statement from a super crazed former father.
'It's not going to change anything is it'
If you realise that as a truth, then why do you continue to argue with people here?
If you acknowledge that nothing will be changed, then what's the point? And how does that reconcile with the aforementioned words of advice you just imparted upon me?
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Who is 'they'?
Please do not generalise Jane fans in your complaint against the generalising of Kenny fans.
Personally, I really like Kenny. He has been the longest surviving character through all of the episodes, (apart from Clem) and I guess I have a soft spot for him, as he was my friend as Lee, and then a familiar and comforting face when I was Clem.
Yes he has his faults, and in extreme circumstances, good people do bad things.
He has lost so much and many weaker men would have lost it long before Kenny started to break down. Its only human nature, the mind can only take so much.
I chose to let Kenny kill Jane, not because I didn't like her, but because I didn't really know her and my gut was telling me that Kenny needed Clem more than Jane, I'm a believer in Fate (yes I know its a game) and for Clem to find Kenny and then kill him, didn't sit right with me.
Yes, Kenny did over react, but due to the facts that were presented to him. Jane pre-meditated that situation, which I didn't think was fair or right.
I chose to leave Wellington with Kenny and in my heart know it was the right decision.
People will get passionate about this, and relate differently to the characters. Nobody should be told that who they like is wrong, as it is a decision made from your heart as you get attached to your characters. So who ever you chose was right for you!
Kenny, for me was the right decision.
Ah, sorry. I thought you were agreeing with him.
Why? Because I know that what you will say won't ever change what I think of it, but I believe that I can try and explain it to someone else, I'm not stopping you, but I don't think you'll change anything. I can at least try.
Do you have that in a more Shakespearean form? Are you trying to impress people with words like "aforementioned" or "imparted upon me"? It looks like you are
I only meant specific people on this thread, I won't include you if that's what you're worried about.
I stopped reading this comment after the word "retarded".
I don't bother wasting my time on people who use this word like that, you're a very dumb person, you should be ashamed.
I'll quote Kenny on this one: "I oughtta slap you", you need some good fucking sense to be knocked into you.
And I'm ignorant.
EDIT: Now that I read the rest of it, Kenny saying "you made the right choice" doesn't prove anything, he thought AJ is dead, he thought his hope was lost and he was fucking dying, he wanted to give up.
Thanks for dragging me in your argument. Please stop being so close-minded and actually read and understand my posts, okay? I don't see why you still fail to realize that Jane isn't selfish instead Kenny is. You fail to prove me wrong in any way. All the Pro-Kenny fans here keep re-posting the same damn points after I've addressed them, multiple times. Arguing with you is like arguing with Kenny.
UGH he just won't ever understand will he ;-;
Kenny is dead in both of my playthroughs. Im assuming there is a third ending where Kenny survives. But don't feel like replaying the entire episode to get to find out. Without giving too much away, is it even worth it?
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You acknowledge that what anyone says won't change what you think.
The people debating this passionately with you almost certainly feel exactly the same way.
There is absolutely no point. Believe me, I have frequently attempted to debate on this forum. It doesn't work/ No-one will ever change their opinions by hearing some random person blabbing about it on the internet.
And no, that's how I speak. I did classics at a high-up university and thus adopted the broad technical vocabulary required to be able to accurately translate Latin or Greek as if it were nothing but disguised English.
If you genuinely think that 'aforementioned' is a shade off of Shakespearean form, then you need to take a trip to the Globe and see some Shakespeare plays.
Thanks for making fun of the way I write though, that makes me more inclined to listen to what you have to say.
Depends on who you are, but a majority of people believe it is the most emotional ending, if you don't want to replay just watch it on YouTube.