I made a decision in Ep.5 that few others did

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  • Thanks, it didn't seem like anyone helped when people called me an asshole and retarded, but ok :/

    Well, do whatever you want, just remember that I've got your back, probably.

  • Kenny and Clem can just enter an abandoned house/building to take shelter for the cold and the wind when they fell like resting or need to rest. Also, is not unreasonable that one of these houses could have a fire place.

    I already made my arguments as to why looking for Wellington is not a death sentence, despite that they could have a hard time, and you didn´t even try to refute them.

    zykelator posted: »

    Well i can just say that your search for wellington is illogical/irrational idea and you can say its not. No point to argue with people like you.

  • I did the exact same thing, and after doing all endings I still would choose this one. If it wasnt for Kenny saying "You made the right choice", I would really be in a lot of doubt thinking if I made the right choice, I think we have best chances of survival with Jane, and I like her too, I liked her from the moment she spoke, I know a lot of you will disagree with me, but I think i made the right choice

  • your'e an a-hole

    I didn't resort to name calling, and if I did, it wasn't until people started calling me "retarded" and "asshole".

    My freaking god, you know, I work in a kindergarten, and the kids there are more mature than most here . Seriously, Kenny-Hater here, Ken

  • Just stop talking about the baby, i didnt give a shit about AJ's life but i still thought he was safe enough inside the car. Walkers were too frozen to move properly and wind cant blow through windows.

    Jane says "we could stay here awhile, see how it goes". Not a permanent solution.

    And like ive said, no point risking your life because of a story.

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    Kenny and Clem can just enter an abandoned house/building to take shelter for the cold and the wind when they fell like resting or need to r

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    That's sad to know that you have no respect for the dead.

    So if someone you loved had died, would you not respect and continue to get to where they died for you to get to?

    zykelator posted: »

    They are dead, they wont mind.

  • Well she would shit on their tombstones XD

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    That's sad to know that you have no respect for the dead. So if someone you loved had died, would you not respect and continue to get to where they died for you to get to?

  • And again we move in circle... You say Jane doesnt care about Clementine, i prove you wrong, you completely forget what i said and say again that Jane is selfish and doesnt care about Clementine.

    Ive seen them once and will never see them again. I dont care what happens when you side up with him because Janes is worldview is exactly the same as i have and im nothing like Kenny (and i dont want to let people like Jane die).. Only thing Jane and Kenny have in common is that they care about Clementine.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Kenny doesnt care about Aj or Clementine. He just wants to keep them safe for own selfish reasons, so he has reason to live. No, he

  • She already did.

    Well she would shit on their tombstones XD

  • edited September 2014

    "Here's the thing with that. She didn't kill the baby. It was an accident"<

    How was it an accident? She left the baby in the car -where he could die- on purpose to prove a point.

    xzilez posted: »

    Here's the thing with that. She didn't kill the baby. It was an accident, but in that world babies are more of a danger to the group because

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    If you would act like she did in the apocalypse, yes I do, just like people here hate me for being a "retarded Kenny fanboy" and an "asshole" (that guy is just pissed at me).

    But at least I don't resort to calling you retarded or an asshole, right?

    zykelator posted: »

    So you actually have problem with people who have similar worldview as Jane?

  • I agree with Awesomeo.. I didn't even reach for the pistol. I just watched him do it. I knew Jane would put Clem in that kind of situation the second we woke up in the truck after Arvo shot Clem. When she looked back at me while he did it I laughed. How can you bring yourself to test a child in such a way? I know it's a harsh world, but that's playing with fire. Besides Kenny was doing what was right. I was proud of him. He carried what he learned from Lee and he never gave up. He was always only worried about the group. Not himself. Though, it may of seemed as such at times. Yeah, Kenny did alright by Clem. He is a good man. That is why I chose to stay with him. Lee'd of been proud. (P.S. I cried too.) Clem is a better person around him. Smarter, stronger, happier, felt safer. I couldn't handle thinking that as soon as we entered we'd of heard a single gunshot behind us.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Exactly.

  • i didnt give a shit about AJ's life

    okay then, case closed.

    zykelator posted: »

    Just stop talking about the baby, i didnt give a shit about AJ's life but i still thought he was safe enough inside the car. Walkers were to

  • I would do whats best for me in that situation of course.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    That's sad to know that you have no respect for the dead. So if someone you loved had died, would you not respect and continue to get to where they died for you to get to?

  • Look at what he said about Kenny fans, don't believe his bullshit, he doesn't respect others, he just lashes out at them while calling them pathetic.

    Well I don't know it in depth but if that's true then go ahead, knock yourself out. If someone disrespects your post then I'm fine with you lashing them, despite what differences we have.

  • Is it just me, or am i the only one who agrees with just about everything AWESOMEO has said?

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Or maybe you just don't like to hear the truth

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    Again, "logical" consists of the word "logic".

    Your arguments are more so "fictional", it contains the word "fiction", or in a more easy way of putting it on the table, complete and ridiculous bullshit.

    I don't rewrite statements, I always try to put them in a new way for you to understand, but at some point my words just become limited, so sorry for having to hit you in the head with a point because you just never fucking get it.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    You can't recall then because you're closed minded yourself, lol. You just can't seem to understand what we are saying even if we hi

  • edited September 2014

    but i still thought he was safe enough inside the car.

    You know what, sure. Lets stop talking about this because you clearly don´t understand that the car was, at the very least, cold enougth to kill a few days old baby.

    Jane says "we could stay here awhile, see how it goes". Not a permanent solution.

    Ok, she intended Howe´s to not be a permanet solution, but you don´t turn the family away Clem says "we could start something here", implying the desire to build a community. Either way, it doesn´t change that you are still ignoring the points I made against Howe´s safety.

    And like ive said, no point risking your life because of a story.

    Kenny and Clem can just enter an abandoned house/building to take shelter for the cold and the wind when they fell like resting or need to rest. Also, is not unreasonable that one of these houses could have a fire place. I know they could have a hard time, but a hard time doesn´t translate to death sentence.

    Please, at least try to tell me why do you think these reasons are bullshit instead of just repeating yourself.

    EDIT: I edited because of speeling mistakes. I didn´t change the post in any other way.

    zykelator posted: »

    Just stop talking about the baby, i didnt give a shit about AJ's life but i still thought he was safe enough inside the car. Walkers were to

  • I did reach for the pistol, but I was never going to pull the trigger :)

    ForgedMonk posted: »

    I agree with Awesomeo.. I didn't even reach for the pistol. I just watched him do it. I knew Jane would put Clem in that kind of situation t

  • That's why you support Jane.

    I respect that, but just can't see it as not selfish, I mean, you gotta agree with me that "best for me" translates to selfish, right?

    I don't agree, but at least you didn't call me names like some others.

    zykelator posted: »

    I would do whats best for me in that situation of course.

  • Thanks :)

    I know it sounds like I'm bragging, but 37 people agreed with what I said up there, so I think it's safe to say that I am not entirley wrong.

    Is it just me, or am i the only one who agrees with just about everything AWESOMEO has said?

  • You never proved me wrong, I know she cares, but the question is to what extent.

    She would never die for Clementine, Kenny would, you know it.

    zykelator posted: »

    And again we move in circle... You say Jane doesnt care about Clementine, i prove you wrong, you completely forget what i said and say again

  • i dont really care that how shitty person you think i am but just like Jane, i pretty much care only about my self and people who are very close to me. Random persons life doesnt have that great value to me. We are very much alike with our rational/objective/cynical worldview and thats why i side up with her. Even very selfish people can be selfless when people we care about are in danger.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    That's why you support Jane. I respect that, but just can't see it as not selfish, I mean, you gotta agree with me that "best for me" translates to selfish, right? I don't agree, but at least you didn't call me names like some others.

  • You dont know that Kenny would die for Clem. He didnt trade his spot for hers or anything, he just had to let her go.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    You never proved me wrong, I know she cares, but the question is to what extent. She would never die for Clementine, Kenny would, you know it.

  • First of all firewood is usually kept outside, which would mean they are covered in snow/frozen and they are very hard to light on fire. Even the ones inside would most likely be bad due to moisture in summer and cold. Houses which have no heating on are pretty much as cold as it is outside. (wind surely makes it worse outside). If they dont have fire for all night, they could just die to cold while sleeping. As it is colder outside and you must keep moving, you need more and more calories per day and the baby didnt even have food left when they started going to Wellington. Those are some of my reason why it wasnt wise idea to go there.

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    but i still thought he was safe enough inside the car. You know what, sure. Lets stop talking about this because you clearly don´t u

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    But she wouldn't die for Clementine..

    Kenny already gave himself an almost-certain death sentence by giving up his spot in Wellington for her and AJ.

    zykelator posted: »

    i dont really care that how shitty person you think i am but just like Jane, i pretty much care only about my self and people who are very c

  • If you like Kenny then just look away. If you like Jane then just shoot him. Problem solved.

  • edited September 2014

    No... Kenny DID NOT have a spot in Wellington. He begged guard to atleast let the kids come in.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    But she wouldn't die for Clementine.. Kenny already gave himself an almost-certain death sentence by giving up his spot in Wellington for her and AJ.

  • First of all firewood is usually kept outside, which would mean they are covered in snow/frozen and they are very hard to light on fire. Even the ones inside would most likely be bad due to moisture in summer and cold. If they dont have fire for all night, they could just die to cold while sleeping.

    Firewood. The section of storing gives plenty of reasons as to why not necessarily every house with firewood they find could be useless, despite the weather conditions.

    Houses which have no heating on are pretty much as cold as it is outside.

    I am pretty sure you are wrong here.

    As it is colder outside and you must keep moving, you need more and more calories per day and the baby didnt even have food left when they started going to Wellington.

    They can scavenge for food.

    zykelator posted: »

    First of all firewood is usually kept outside, which would mean they are covered in snow/frozen and they are very hard to light on fire. Eve

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    If you seriously say that Kenny wouldn't die for Clem, I can only say that I'm speechless, maybe someone else can bring the best example, but remember when he said "you took care of the kids, that's what a real man does"? He already risked his life many times for her anyway.

    And yes, giving up his spot was like sentencing himself to die in the cold (or at least raise the stakes by about 90%), which he did do, because instead of getting the two of them in, he could have ditched them and go in himself (which by what you said, seems to me like the thing Jane would have done, "taking care of myself first" and everything), but he didn't, he told her that if there is not enough space and they have to go, maybe they could just take the kids in, but he could also have suggessted that they would only take him in.

    He didn't, he prioritized Clem and AJ's lives above his, it's noble for a man who isn't even their father.

    zykelator posted: »

    You dont know that Kenny would die for Clem. He didnt trade his spot for hers or anything, he just had to let her go.

  • The only reason they let Clem&Aj in was because Clementine is a kid and AJ is a baby. Like they said before, they cant accept new members so Kenny did not have a spot in the first place. They made exception only for the kids.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    If you seriously say that Kenny wouldn't die for Clem, I can only say that I'm speechless, maybe someone else can bring the best example, bu

  • Okay, I'll rephrase. To stop a friend from murdering a friend you kill a friend.

    Should somebody have shot Clem to stop her from killing Kenny? At the same time, should somebody have shot that other somebody to stop him/her from killing Clem? After all, everybody in these scenarios are protecting someone else.

    I find it hard to understand your thinking. This isn't as black and white of a fight as Lee vs the stranger, both of these people are your friends who care about you. Shooting the apparent winner of the deathmatch regardless of whether it's Jane or Kenny is not an understandable thing to do, especially coming from someone who thinks my initial comment is ignorant.

    Cinicage posted: »

    Comments like this really piss me off. By shooting Kenny, you are effectively stopping him from murdering a defenseless woman. Yes, Jane is

  • If a house is unattended for +2 years, all moisture turns into snow/ice inside house and it is atleast close being as cold as it is outside. And the houses get pretty wrecked in 2 years with walkers being around so there can be bunch of snow inside also.

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    First of all firewood is usually kept outside, which would mean they are covered in snow/frozen and they are very hard to light on fire. Eve

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    He could've taken the spot for himself and leave them with the supplies, he did have a spot if he would tell them that he wants to take it.

    You need to realize that if they had a spot for 2 kids, they could have taken in one grown man instead.

    2 kids = one grown man (if not more because it is more people to feed and more trouble with the baby, because of the special food he needs and also because someone needs to look after him at all times).

    Clem can't fight a man that is twice her size if he would have entered instead, but his heart is also twice the size of Jane's (even if that means he would die earlier with those values), that's why he would never put a kid on the line, he put himself on the line and took care of the kids first, a thing Jane wouldn't do, she wouldn't give up her place for Clem and the baby.

    Because "when push comes to shove..."

    zykelator posted: »

    No... Kenny DID NOT have a spot in Wellington. He begged guard to atleast let the kids come in.

  • Yeah, to be honest I agree. At the moment it seemed like the best idea to go with Jane despite the danger she put the baby in, because we both knew Howes existed. I mean, it's risky to go there in case of walkers, bandits etc but I'd prefer that then to go off somewhere based on a story I heard

    zykelator posted: »

    It doesnt matter. They had no actual evidence of its existances... And i wouldnt risk my life for something like that.

  • What part of this sentence dont you understand? They were not accepting new members, they only made exception for the kids. Even if Clem and Aj werent coming in, Kenny still wouldnt have had a spot in Wellington.

    They gave Clem&Aj spot out of pity, pity which Kenny wouldnt have gotten.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Are you fucking kidding me? He could've taken the spot for himself and leave them with the supplies, he did have a spot if he would tell

  • Look at the other reply I made to you, I addressed it there.

    zykelator posted: »

    The only reason they let Clem&Aj in was because Clementine is a kid and AJ is a baby. Like they said before, they cant accept new members so Kenny did not have a spot in the first place. They made exception only for the kids.

  • Some people have problem understanding what is more rational thing to do.

    ClennyJr posted: »

    Yeah, to be honest I agree. At the moment it seemed like the best idea to go with Jane despite the danger she put the baby in, because we bo

  • edited September 2014

    I mean, obviously I'd choose Kenny's ending because well, Wellington exists. But at that time, even if Jane did that, it seemed more rational to go to Howes because we both knew it existed. After finishing the game though, I'd want to choose Kenny's ending. I don't exactly agree with her doing that, but she did say it was an accident. Kenny had no reason to attack her. Imagine if it was actually an accident.

    zykelator posted: »

    Some people have problem understanding what is more rational thing to do.

  • Again, you are implying that they had a spot left in wellington. Clem and Aj got in only because they are so young.. Kenny isnt a 11 years old girl or 2 weeks old baby. The guard felt pity towards Clem and Aj and that is the reason she asked if those 2 could come in (Kenny gave the idea to the guard of taking Clem & Aj in and she couldnt say no, so she tried to get them in). She wouldnt have even contacted the one who runs that place if it was Kenny who wanted in.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Look at the other reply I made to you, I addressed it there.

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