Facts in science are the most likely right answer.
You said earlier that you are sure God doesn't exist, yet now you say it is "the … moremost likely" answer.
I am educated, and even if you're more educated than me, at least I won't shove things and opinions down your throat, and will respect people for who they are and not go against what they believe in, because what they believe in does not reflect on who they are entirley.
In the end, even if God is real/isn't real, being a good person and doing justice is more important than proving God to be real or not.
Belan.. Answer this honestly.. Am I an asshole?
Based on what I have read? No, most definitely not. Everyone has their moments (I wa… mores close to having one yesterday), but you're clearly a reasonable guy to me. I think what both of us could use work in is not taking immature posts aimed towards us seriously. As bad as the posts can look, it might be better off to just not respond sometimes.
Kenny didnt risk his safety in any way...
Kenny is unstable, violent and acts before thinking. Those are the reason Jane wanted Clementin… moree away from him.
So when Kenny cares about Clementine, he is selfless and when Jane cares about Clementine, she is selfish? Your logic is just flawless.
I like Jane because we are very alike. Cynical, rational, logical, objective.
Caring and Sane? She considers everyone other than herself to be a worthless crutch and only went with Clementine because she has some creep… morey sister complex. She risked the baby's life and made Clem kill one of her best friends to prove a point. She's smart and knows how to survive, but is objectively not caring or sane.
Caring and Sane? She considers everyone other than herself to be a worthless crutch and only went with Clementine because she has some creep… morey sister complex. She risked the baby's life and made Clem kill one of her best friends to prove a point. She's smart and knows how to survive, but is objectively not caring or sane.
Hey! You found one more thing which Kenny and Jane has in common. Arvo lost his sister and Kenny keeps beating the shit out of him and treats him like garbage.
So rational and logic she threw an already broken man over the edge, put a baby in danger and manipulated a little girl just to prove a point. How rational and logic that girl is, wow.
I see that you are hardcore Kenny fan and Jane hater, so i guess there is no point to argue with you, since you will just ignore/discredit e… moreverything good Jane does? My Lee wasnt awful guardian. Kenny fans biggest excuse is always "hes been through a lot... he is justified to assault/murder people if he gets angry"
She is rational & logical on her own. Clementine is the reason she started to act emotionally, thus the stupid plan. And yeah, she was about to lose her someone she cared about a lot, of course she gets desperate.
Your reading comprehension must be poor. If she behaved rational, she would have left the group long time a go because of Kenny and the baby. But the friendship between her and Clementine made her act irrationally. And rational person doesnt give a shit about a baby in zombie apocalypse, so thats a bad argument.
So rational and logic she threw an already broken man over the edge, put a baby in danger and manipulated a little girl just to prove a point. How rational and logic that girl is, wow.
Logic can prove to be very cruel at times.
Very far from humane, which is the most important thing to be if you put yourself under the catagory of a human being.
Your reading comprehension must be poor. If she behaved rational, she would have left the group long time a go because of Kenny and the bab… morey. But the friendship between her and Clementine made her act irrationally. And rational person doesnt give a shit about a baby in zombie apocalypse, so thats a bad argument.
Everyone is selfish... Only times she did something irrational in this season are when she helped others while risking her life or when she hid the baby to trick Kenny.
Call me stupid, you think I'm ignorant because your beliefs contradict mine, that is true ignorance, you just can't listen to other's views of such complicated topics without calling them stupid.
I know the difference, and don't try to avoid what I said:
I can be the biggest idiot on this planet, but I am still better than you to not stoop down to your level and keeping my humanity, even if partly, and not only that, but also I don't shove my "facts" down your throat, which you do, and I respect your freedom to think what you want without calling you stupid for not following so blindly things and questioning everything else.
Don't tell me the difference, there is no right answer. And I'll say it again:
You can't prove it to be entirley wrong, maybe mostly wrong, but not entirley.
And again, there's God, and there's being a good person, being a good person matters more than the subject of God, which you aren't doing so well according to what I see here and how you treat me for having the "nerve" to question things.
You know what's the only birthright every being, including us primitive people deserve?
Undeniable freedom, in all its forms, one of them being the freedom to form an opinion without being called stupid for it.
I'm not trolling, that's first of all.
Call me stupid, you think I'm ignorant because your beliefs contradict mine, that is true ignoranc… moree, you just can't listen to other's views of such complicated topics without calling them stupid.
I know the difference, and don't try to avoid what I said:
I can be the biggest idiot on this planet, but I am still better than you to not stoop down to your level and keeping my humanity, even if partly, and not only that, but also I don't shove my "facts" down your throat, which you do, and I respect your freedom to think what you want without calling you stupid for not following so blindly things and questioning everything else.
Don't tell me the difference, there is no right answer. And I'll say it again:
You can't prove it to be entirley wrong, maybe mostly wrong, but not entirley.
And again, there's God, and there's being a good person, being a good person matters more than the subject o… [view original content]
I know there's no point, I'm saying this to other people reading it more than to you, but it would be nice if you took a little less objective and more subjective view of opinions and had taken into consideration that not everything is built up of facts, and some things are just uncertain.
If you drop all humanity and manage to stay alive by doing that, you will find out very quickly that the actions you did do not justify the means, and that you don't have a reason to live if you had just decided to drop your humanity in its entirenty behind.
Because you won't deserve to be happy if you took the right to be happy from other people.
But again, that's my point of view on things, it clearly isn't Jane's, she proved herself to be not very humane with her methods of proving things to people
And at that time Jane was hardly defenseless. Remember when she cut him? Kenny backed up and went outside and Jane followed him with a knife… more in hand, with the clear intention to KILL him, she even states that. If it wasn't for Kenny disarming Jane so greatly, he would've died because she waved her knife obviously wanting to wound Kenny.
It was Jane or Kenny. Jane might've not been a direct threat to Kenny's life during those seconds, but she sure as hell was just moments before.
If we got with intentions behind actions, what he did was voluntary manslaughter against someone who provoked him and created the whole scenario so she could have an excuse to kill him. And that, in my eyes, was self-defense for trying to eliminate a threatening person who was more than willing to end your life seconds before. I mean, if someone tries to cut my stomach, doesn't back up despite having the upper hand, gauges my eye out and on top of that, is respon… [view original content]
Well just like Wellington and gods, their purpose is to give hope to people (atleast some gods) and i wouldnt be suprised if someone would h… moreave made up Wellington. I dont know if you havent realized this, but people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying. Its what keeps some going.
It "was" during the time of the murder. Jane didn't help the situation either, by saying "it was an accident" it was intented from her part to make you know the baby was dead.
She never pretended to kill a baby... That was Kennys assumption and he blindly believed that to be true. so now Jane isnt friend of Clementines?
I will add that Kenny is horrible parental figurine. His behaviour teaches Clementine to be violent, brutal, irrational, reckless, stubborn. Kenny is like a violent drunk father to Clementine, who she has to keep in check the whole season.
That's right, to a certain extent.
If you drop all humanity and manage to stay alive by doing that, you will find out very quickly that t… morehe actions you did do not justify the means, and that you don't have a reason to live if you had just decided to drop your humanity in its entirenty behind.
Because you won't deserve to be happy if you took the right to be happy from other people.
But again, that's my point of view on things, it clearly isn't Jane's, she proved herself to be not very humane with her methods of proving things to people
ahem ahem pretendingtokillababyandputtinganelevenyearoldinasituationwheresheneedstokillherparentalfigureinordertosaveasocalledfriend ahem
Oh boy, that was a heavy one.
people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying
Who are you to say what's stupid and what isn't? If it makes people feel better, why is it stupid?
people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying
Who are you to say what's stupid and what isn't? If it makes people feel better, why is it stupid?
There's religion, and there's God, you're mixing things up.
I completely disagree with all religions, but I do not deny God's existance, religion was created by people, not by God, and people have flaws that come to play in religions.
Alright, then I guess that can go for pretty much anything, right? People can be brainwashed by anything if they let themselves be. One of the good things about living in North America is that we can choose what we want to influence our lives and what we don't. To get rid of something that makes people feel better because it stands the chance of "brainwashing" someone, then we might as well get rid of currency, education, and the government. But we can't do that, right? It changes us, but we can't get rid of it altogether because it helps us. Religion has been the cause of a lot of problems, that's true, but only because men caused those problems, not God. Men are the cause of pretty much all of the problems we have faced and we continue to face today. Man's overwhelming desire for power through their ignorance and close-minded nature is the cause for the self-destruction we see when we think of religion or God. In most cases God is how you as a person feel He should be, and I feel that He would never have wanted his children to be starting wars over him. Ignorance isn't a God-given trait. If building a home for their god to communicate with Him/Her/Them is stupid, then I must be stupid, and so must be billions of other people.
Why are you insulting other religions with your capital letter god?
Gods were created by people, religions were created to control those who believed in gods.
There's religion, and there's God, you're mixing things up.
I completely disagree with all religions, but I do not deny God's existance, religion was created by people, not by God, and people have flaws that come to play in religions.
She pretended to leave a baby behind, better? And his assumption was very valid, knowing she has a habit of leaving people she considers to be "dead weight" in order to save her own sorry ass.
I will add that Kenny is horrible parental figurine. His behaviour teaches Clementine to be violent, brutal, irrational, reckless, stubborn. Kenny is like a violent drunk father to Clementine, who she has to keep in check the whole season.
I'm not going to explain myself about how I view Kenny again, I've been up all day and I have already explained in a million and one ways what I think of him, but let me just say it's the oppposite.
She never pretended to kill a baby... That was Kennys assumption and he blindly believed that to be true. so now Jane isnt friend of Clement… moreines?
I will add that Kenny is horrible parental figurine. His behaviour teaches Clementine to be violent, brutal, irrational, reckless, stubborn. Kenny is like a violent drunk father to Clementine, who she has to keep in check the whole season.
Why are you insulting other religions with your capital letter god?
Gods were created by people, religions were created to control those who believed in gods.
Alright, then I guess that can go for pretty much anything, right? People can be brainwashed by anything if they let themselves be. One of t… morehe good things about living in North America is that we can choose what we want to influence our lives and what we don't. To get rid of something that makes people feel better because it stands the chance of "brainwashing" someone, then we might as well get rid of currency, education, and the government. But we can't do that, right? It changes us, but we can't get rid of it altogether because it helps us. Religion has been the cause of a lot of problems, that's true, but only because men caused those problems, not God. Men are the cause of pretty much all of the problems we have faced and we continue to face today. Man's overwhelming desire for power through their ignorance and close-minded nature is the cause for the self-destruction we see when we think of religion or God. In most cases God is how you a… [view original content]
You're getting internet hurt because I argued my point using masterful logic, while in an overall euphoric state of mind.
EDIT: He said Kenny was just as defenseless as Jane "at that point", that wasn't true and I simply explained why I believe this using aforementioned masterful logic.
That's why I took that part off, I didn't want to come off rude, but you just generalized us:
I don't like getting into these kind of … morearguments, ones that are part of a larger 'war'. But if a person is going to disagree with me, I'd like their case to have some thought put into it.
It was uncalled for, he did put thought in his case, so did everyone else.
Kenny saw through Jane's shadiness, if you were paying attention to her body language and facial expressions you would see that she was hidi… moreng something. Kenny just didn't know what until later. And hypothetically if Jane was telling the truth(which she wasn't) if losing AJ was an accident, why was there no sign of struggle(ie; blood, ripped clothing) on Jane's end? I assume that Kenny looked as much as he could for the remains of AJ in the storm, so why was there no blood in the snow? Why were there no walkers finishing eating AJ? There are several holes in Jane's story, which is why Kenny comes back so angry, because he knows she's lying.
Dayum, some of y'all need to take a chill pill and calm down. Can't even discuss without getting bashed on. No wonder I'm barely discussing about this game anymore. Calm your tits or else they're gonna fall off. -___-
Well majority of people on this planet are stupid for believing in things which we have no evidence of.
Only reason religions still exists is because it has been forced down peoples throats for too many centuries. Crusades are over now, but now parents brainwash their children to believe in supernatural creatures and magic. Children are very easy to corrupt with religion, because their understanding on universe/science is non-existent.
Alright, then I guess that can go for pretty much anything, right? People can be brainwashed by anything if they let themselves be. One of t… morehe good things about living in North America is that we can choose what we want to influence our lives and what we don't. To get rid of something that makes people feel better because it stands the chance of "brainwashing" someone, then we might as well get rid of currency, education, and the government. But we can't do that, right? It changes us, but we can't get rid of it altogether because it helps us. Religion has been the cause of a lot of problems, that's true, but only because men caused those problems, not God. Men are the cause of pretty much all of the problems we have faced and we continue to face today. Man's overwhelming desire for power through their ignorance and close-minded nature is the cause for the self-destruction we see when we think of religion or God. In most cases God is how you a… [view original content]
Alright, then I guess that can go for pretty much anything, right? People can be brainwashed by anything if they let themselves be. One of t… morehe good things about living in North America is that we can choose what we want to influence our lives and what we don't. To get rid of something that makes people feel better because it stands the chance of "brainwashing" someone, then we might as well get rid of currency, education, and the government. But we can't do that, right? It changes us, but we can't get rid of it altogether because it helps us. Religion has been the cause of a lot of problems, that's true, but only because men caused those problems, not God. Men are the cause of pretty much all of the problems we have faced and we continue to face today. Man's overwhelming desire for power through their ignorance and close-minded nature is the cause for the self-destruction we see when we think of religion or God. In most cases God is how you a… [view original content]
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Look like one, not being an actual moron.
Are you just trolling now, or are you really that stupid?
fact ≠ absolute fact.... Learn the difference before you start replying to me.
Thanks.
I won't let ignorant people make me feel bad about myself again, I feel bad for the guy actually.
Im pretty sure that on normal standards, i am a moron.
Logic can prove to be very cruel at times.
Very far from humane, which is the most important thing to be if you put yourself under the catagory of a human being.
Don't forget lacks empathy for other people but herself.
And Kenny has son complex? Lee had daughter complex?
Just because one doesnt care about random human beings, doesnt make him insane.
Hey! You found one more thing which Kenny and Jane has in common. Arvo lost his sister and Kenny keeps beating the shit out of him and treats him like garbage.
So rational and logic she threw an already broken man over the edge, put a baby in danger and manipulated a little girl just to prove a point. How rational and logic that girl is, wow.
You are a racist !!
^^
Your reading comprehension must be poor. If she behaved rational, she would have left the group long time a go because of Kenny and the baby. But the friendship between her and Clementine made her act irrationally. And rational person doesnt give a shit about a baby in zombie apocalypse, so thats a bad argument.
Its zombie apocalypse. You either adapt to new moral values or risk yourself getting killed over random people who need help.
So she's not only irrational, but cold-hearted, manipulative and selfish. Nice.
Everyone is selfish... Only times she did something irrational in this season are when she helped others while risking her life or when she hid the baby to trick Kenny.
I'm not trolling, that's first of all.
Call me stupid, you think I'm ignorant because your beliefs contradict mine, that is true ignorance, you just can't listen to other's views of such complicated topics without calling them stupid.
I know the difference, and don't try to avoid what I said:
I can be the biggest idiot on this planet, but I am still better than you to not stoop down to your level and keeping my humanity, even if partly, and not only that, but also I don't shove my "facts" down your throat, which you do, and I respect your freedom to think what you want without calling you stupid for not following so blindly things and questioning everything else.
Don't tell me the difference, there is no right answer. And I'll say it again:
You can't prove it to be entirley wrong, maybe mostly wrong, but not entirley.
And again, there's God, and there's being a good person, being a good person matters more than the subject of God, which you aren't doing so well according to what I see here and how you treat me for having the "nerve" to question things.
You know what's the only birthright every being, including us primitive people deserve?
Undeniable freedom, in all its forms, one of them being the freedom to form an opinion without being called stupid for it.
Sigh... Facts arent opinions. Dont bother answering this because there is no point to continue this conversation.
I know there's no point, I'm saying this to other people reading it more than to you, but it would be nice if you took a little less objective and more subjective view of opinions and had taken into consideration that not everything is built up of facts, and some things are just uncertain.
And I said that they are where exactly?
That's right, to a certain extent.
If you drop all humanity and manage to stay alive by doing that, you will find out very quickly that the actions you did do not justify the means, and that you don't have a reason to live if you had just decided to drop your humanity in its entirenty behind.
Because you won't deserve to be happy if you took the right to be happy from other people.
But again, that's my point of view on things, it clearly isn't Jane's, she proved herself to be not very humane with her methods of proving things to people
ahem ahem pretendingtokillababyandputtinganelevenyearoldinasituationwheresheneedstokillherparentalfigureinordertosaveasocalledfriend ahem
Oh boy, that was a heavy one.
The baby was not dead. I would count that as voluntary manslaughter when Kenny attacked her first.
Who are you to say what's stupid and what isn't? If it makes people feel better, why is it stupid?
how does Jane kill her sister?
It "was" during the time of the murder. Jane didn't help the situation either, by saying "it was an accident" it was intented from her part to make you know the baby was dead.
She never pretended to kill a baby... That was Kennys assumption and he blindly believed that to be true. so now Jane isnt friend of Clementines?
I will add that Kenny is horrible parental figurine. His behaviour teaches Clementine to be violent, brutal, irrational, reckless, stubborn. Kenny is like a violent drunk father to Clementine, who she has to keep in check the whole season.
Because they start brainwashing their children to believe the same as they do. Thats my main problem with religions.
He isn't anything that makes him able to say that, that's for sure.
I'm not all out for people praying, but if it makes you happy, be my guest.
Wow...
I am leaving this establishment.
There's religion, and there's God, you're mixing things up.
I completely disagree with all religions, but I do not deny God's existance, religion was created by people, not by God, and people have flaws that come to play in religions.
Unless your living a couple centuries back No one is forced to be "brainwashed" And believe how some else believes, even if its their parents...
Alright, then I guess that can go for pretty much anything, right? People can be brainwashed by anything if they let themselves be. One of the good things about living in North America is that we can choose what we want to influence our lives and what we don't. To get rid of something that makes people feel better because it stands the chance of "brainwashing" someone, then we might as well get rid of currency, education, and the government. But we can't do that, right? It changes us, but we can't get rid of it altogether because it helps us. Religion has been the cause of a lot of problems, that's true, but only because men caused those problems, not God. Men are the cause of pretty much all of the problems we have faced and we continue to face today. Man's overwhelming desire for power through their ignorance and close-minded nature is the cause for the self-destruction we see when we think of religion or God. In most cases God is how you as a person feel He should be, and I feel that He would never have wanted his children to be starting wars over him. Ignorance isn't a God-given trait. If building a home for their god to communicate with Him/Her/Them is stupid, then I must be stupid, and so must be billions of other people.
Why are you insulting other religions with your capital letter god?
Gods were created by people, religions were created to control those who believed in gods.
She pretended to leave a baby behind, better? And his assumption was very valid, knowing she has a habit of leaving people she considers to be "dead weight" in order to save her own sorry ass.
I'm not going to explain myself about how I view Kenny again, I've been up all day and I have already explained in a million and one ways what I think of him, but let me just say it's the oppposite.
Yes, because you could possibly know that, right? Come on.
You Read my mind.
You're getting internet hurt because I argued my point using masterful logic, while in an overall euphoric state of mind.
EDIT: He said Kenny was just as defenseless as Jane "at that point", that wasn't true and I simply explained why I believe this using aforementioned masterful logic.
No.
No, he couldn't.
LMAO XDDDDDD legend
Well majority of people on this planet are stupid for believing in things which we have no evidence of.
Only reason religions still exists is because it has been forced down peoples throats for too many centuries. Crusades are over now, but now parents brainwash their children to believe in supernatural creatures and magic. Children are very easy to corrupt with religion, because their understanding on universe/science is non-existent.
Men and women together, not only men.
Unless in "Man" you just meant "human", in which case my bad
Lol, I meant "Man" as in the general human population. Although women didn't really have much of a say in such things when the Bible was created.