Because they kinda forced the end... I mean, what they wanted to make you do is go by yourself.
They want your Clementine to grow by herself. All alone. Without anyone to protect her everytime. Not only that. They're reversing roles.
She has always been the protected and not the protector. Now they want her to become a protector to make her feel what other people felt when they had "protection Clem duties".
Honestly? I don't like the ending. I hate it a bit. I hate the fact that they had to kill Luke. WHAT THE FUCK. SERIOUSLY. YOU COULD'VE KILLED MIKE. Or Bonnie or anyone BUT LUKE! You bunch of assholes.
I really liked Luke. I was in for that choice since the beginning of the episode but then they just fucking kill him. WHAT THE HELL DUDE.
I am kinda sad and almost cried in every choice I had to make. Did some research too... Yeah, some googlin', ya know... I almost cried when Kenny left Clem and was shocked when that bitch of Jane did that to Kenny. She risked everybody's lives just to prove a fucking point. How fucking selfish is that? And don't come to me and tell me that she didn't know what she was doing or what the hell she was thinking because she was so aware of what she was doing when she asked my Clemmy to not "interfere". Interfere into what? Into her fucking genius plan on getting everyone killed!
Back on topic, Telltale wanted Clementine to be alone at the end... For fuck's sake, they even give you the option to shoot Kenny after he kills Jane!
It's like the end of Season 1... When she finds herself alone, after she leaves Lee. She finds herself in a field... Alone. Except this time she's with AJ. And nobody comes to get her...
Fucking bullshit. I hate the end of this season. Hope they can make Season 3.
Correction:
Jane has displayed much more sociopathic tendencies than Kenny. Don't get me wrong I'm not on either side of Kenny or Jane. Its true Kenny has his anger issues but just that is not something that would make him a sociopath. However a lot of Jane's "problems" can border on sociopathic in the true sense of the term.
How sociopaths are:
Lying and doing anything they can to make you believe it.
Highly manipulative and charming.
Will never put blame on them self nor will they ever feel guilt or apologies if they did anything wrong. (They will apologies if it will get you convinced to be on their side though in a sense of manipulation/ to get what they want.)
Now I don't actually believe Jane is a full on sociopath she definitely has some problems but I know 100% Kenny is NOT a sociopath. You don't have to trust me on that but if it even helps a little I had to deal with a real sociopath before. He refused to take his medication because he didn't believe anything was wrong with him but displayed all of which I listed above.
Correction:
Jane has displayed much more sociopathic tendencies than Kenny. Don't get me wrong I'm not on either side of Kenny or J… moreane. Its true Kenny has his anger issues but just that is not something that would make him a sociopath. However a lot of Jane's "problems" can border on sociopathic in the true sense of the term.
How sociopaths are:
* Lying and doing anything they can to make you believe it.
* Highly manipulative and charming.
* Will never put blame on them self nor will they ever feel guilt or apologies if they did anything wrong. (They will apologies if it will get you convinced to be on their side though in a sense of manipulation/ to get what they want.)
Now I don't actually believe Jane is a full on sociopath she definitely has some problems but I know 100% Kenny is NOT a sociopath. You don't have to trust me on that but if it even helps a little I had to deal with a real sociopath before. He refused to… [view original content]
Kenny never made that mistake before, he didn't kill Ben in cold blood as revenge, he did the contrary. Stabbing or shooting him in the leg may have gave Jane the advantage who in turn would have killed him.
Anyways, don't bother writing back to this. Truth be told, we could be arguing Jane vs Kenny for a long time and still have more to say, in the end our opinions will probably be the exact same as our initial ones. I don't think i'm going to change your mind about Jane and I don't think you will change my mind about Kenny.
And knowing this, people should realize that they cant let Kenny make the same mistake again. There should have been option to shoot kenny i… moren leg or something, but telltale loves to make people sad, so they made us shoot him or let him make another mistake.
I killed Kenny #Imsorryforthat but I like Jane, obviously if there was a choice to save Luke I would save him in the 1st place. But I have no regrets, I miss almost all of the characters who died till now
Jane:
* She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed anoth… moreer member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
* She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
* She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
* She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
* She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
* She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've happend then.
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On the bridge. When Luke tells you to get the "small" walker, if you decide to take down the big one, you can actually kick the walker in the leg before hitting it.
Congrats Telltale. You have officially twilighted your fan base.
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Team Jane ftw
I haven't read anything too much here, but a lot I … morehave read elsewhere is just bogus
1) AJ was not in danger. He was in a secure car bundled up, with hardly any walkers around. Even if there were walkers around they were most likely frozen by then (hence Clementines calm trek through the blizzard)
2) Jane didn't just abandon her sister. She dragged her through hell until she could literally do nothing to help her. Plus, I doubt Clementine would freeze up, and I find it even more unlikely Jane would just walk away. Yes, she almost left Sarah at the trailer park, but that's because she didn't want to drag her through hell when all she wanted was peace. Plus, I think she might've learned something from Clementine's determination. (Determinant)
3) Read this from some bozo here saying Jane taught Clem stuff she already knew. Well, before that there was no i… [view original content]
Jane betrayed Clem's trust, I don't care if it was "for the best". He's not some dog you get to put down when it gets sick or rabid or old. That trick was just about the most despicable thing Jane had done.
I agree. She was just as broken as Kenny. But what happened (the fight) was all on her. It could be avoided if she never attempted her 'trick' or just stop at any time and told them the truth (thus also making her point by showing Kenny's unstable temper to Clem). She tried not only to trick Kenny but Clem as well.
What does Jane know? Jane never acted on what she thought Kenny would become, but on what he is. The first thing she says about Kenny is in … moreEP5 and something about how he's lost it already.
How many Carvers has she known? How many groups have she and her sister been with, and then later just herself? I don't care. Her knowledge and experience isn't the be-all and end-all to surviving and dealing with people in this new world, as much as she likes to imply it.
I'm tired of this "Kenny wants to die and he's crazy, that makes it okay" spiel. Jane betrayed Clem's trust, I don't care if it was "for the best". He's not some dog you get to put down when it gets sick or rabid or old. That trick was just about the most despicable thing Jane had done. "Just give up on her, she can't make it. What are you going to do with the baby? Uh-oh, I, the baby, it...'s right over there! Haha, Kenny had to die, didn't he? Wait, Clem, where are you going? Clem? Clem? Urban?"
Kenny knows there is something wrong with him and wants to change it even if he can't. Jane however can't admit that she has done anything wrong there fore she is "always right".
There is nothing "rational" about leaving a baby in a turned off car with the window slightly cracked open during a blizzard to "prove a point" that was already very well known. Jane would have had me if she had not have done that and had actually use "true rational" to prove her point to Kenny.
Kenny repeats same mistakes and claims to be sorry and says he will change. He just keeps murdering and causing deaths and never changes.
… more You know, rational and objective people like Jane may seem like sociopath. You would probably think im a sociopath also if you knew me in real life.
Kenny knows there is something wrong with him and wants to change it even if he can't. Jane however can't admit that she has done anything w… morerong there fore she is "always right".
There is nothing "rational" about leaving a baby in a turned off car with the window slightly cracked open during a blizzard to "prove a point" that was already very well known. Jane would have had me if she had not have done that and had actually use "true rational" to prove her point to Kenny.
Not at all rational. If anything reckless, irresponsible, and selfish. There were much better ways for her to handle the situation and she chose the worse way possible.
Not at all rational. If anything reckless, irresponsible, and selfish. There were much better ways for her to handle the situation and she chose the worse way possible.
Rational is based on proven facts and not based on emotions. True that part of her plan was to show how violent Kenny was there was absolutely no need to prove it because it is already something known to everyone. Her plan was more likely to get Clem to go with her and not with Kenny/ to ditch Kenny. The way she acted during the whole game she wanted Clem for herself and no one else even suggesting that she should ditch the group. Better said she wanted a replacement for her sister. This would suggests that her plan is more based on her emotions rather than fact.
Her goal was to prove to Clementine that Kenny isnt safe to be around. Considering that, the most rational thing to do was to provoke Kenny in some way to show how dangerous he can be to people around him.
Rational is based on proven facts and not based on emotions. True that part of her plan was to show how violent Kenny was there was absolute… morely no need to prove it because it is already something known to everyone. Her plan was more likely to get Clem to go with her and not with Kenny/ to ditch Kenny. The way she acted during the whole game she wanted Clem for herself and no one else even suggesting that she should ditch the group. Better said she wanted a replacement for her sister. This would suggests that her plan is more based on her emotions rather than fact.
Its obvious without the need of provoking Kenny. Her provoking Kenny is a fool trying to prove something that has already been proven. If she was really all that smart she would have taken off with Clem without the need of confrontation or confront Kenny in a way the proves to himself that he is a danger without fighting, both of which is very possible. Instead she endangers both a baby's life and her own to prove a point that is pointless to prove to Clem because of how obvious it is. The fact that she is trying to prove something that has already been proven is irrational.
Her goal was to prove to Clementine that Kenny isnt safe to be around. Considering that, the most rational thing to do was to provoke Kenny in some way to show how dangerous he can be to people around him.
Well if Clem wasnt such a retard, they would have left Kenny behind when the zombies attacked them while they were in the car. There would have been no need to prove anything to Clem if she actually realized that Kenny is too dangerous to be around.
Its obvious without the need of provoking Kenny. Her provoking Kenny is a fool trying to prove something that has already been proven. If sh… moree was really all that smart she would have taken off with Clem without the need of confrontation or confront Kenny in a way the proves to himself that he is a danger without fighting, both of which is very possible. Instead she endangers both a baby's life and her own to prove a point that is pointless to prove to Clem because of how obvious it is. The fact that she is trying to prove something that has already been proven is irrational.
Clem isn't a retard she was just emotionally attached to Kenny. She has known Kenny much longer than she has Jane. If Jane had just correctly talked to Clem about it and not attempt to provoke Kenny by insulting him in the car she could indirectly have further proven her point to Clem without confrontation.
Well if Clem wasnt such a retard, they would have left Kenny behind when the zombies attacked them while they were in the car. There would have been no need to prove anything to Clem if she actually realized that Kenny is too dangerous to be around.
She said in the car "we could just leave", but Clementine didnt agree with her plan (which was stupid because i was already looking forward to leave Kenny behind).
Kenny started insulting her by calling Jane "nothing".
Clem isn't a retard she was just emotionally attached to Kenny. She has known Kenny much longer than she has Jane. If Jane had just correctl… morey talked to Clem about it and not attempt to provoke Kenny by insulting him in the car she could indirectly have further proven her point to Clem without confrontation.
Doesn't matter who started it, her participating in it is more counterproductive. Jane also insulted Kenny but if she had backed away from that and was less aggressive she would indirectly prove her point. Also the fact that she wanted to leave AJ behind was likely the reason Clem refused to leave.
She said in the car "we could just leave", but Clementine didnt agree with her plan (which was stupid because i was already looking forward to leave Kenny behind).
Kenny started insulting her by calling Jane "nothing".
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Good luck with that. Seriously!
Because they kinda forced the end... I mean, what they wanted to make you do is go by yourself.
They want your Clementine to grow by herself. All alone. Without anyone to protect her everytime. Not only that. They're reversing roles.
She has always been the protected and not the protector. Now they want her to become a protector to make her feel what other people felt when they had "protection Clem duties".
Honestly? I don't like the ending. I hate it a bit. I hate the fact that they had to kill Luke. WHAT THE FUCK. SERIOUSLY. YOU COULD'VE KILLED MIKE. Or Bonnie or anyone BUT LUKE! You bunch of assholes.
I really liked Luke. I was in for that choice since the beginning of the episode but then they just fucking kill him. WHAT THE HELL DUDE.
I am kinda sad and almost cried in every choice I had to make. Did some research too... Yeah, some googlin', ya know... I almost cried when Kenny left Clem and was shocked when that bitch of Jane did that to Kenny. She risked everybody's lives just to prove a fucking point. How fucking selfish is that? And don't come to me and tell me that she didn't know what she was doing or what the hell she was thinking because she was so aware of what she was doing when she asked my Clemmy to not "interfere". Interfere into what? Into her fucking genius plan on getting everyone killed!
Back on topic, Telltale wanted Clementine to be alone at the end... For fuck's sake, they even give you the option to shoot Kenny after he kills Jane!
It's like the end of Season 1... When she finds herself alone, after she leaves Lee. She finds herself in a field... Alone. Except this time she's with AJ. And nobody comes to get her...
Fucking bullshit. I hate the end of this season. Hope they can make Season 3.
Yeah well he would've been an asshole if he didn't. He placed the walkie-talkie in Clementine's jacket in the first place!
Correction:
Jane has displayed much more sociopathic tendencies than Kenny. Don't get me wrong I'm not on either side of Kenny or Jane. Its true Kenny has his anger issues but just that is not something that would make him a sociopath. However a lot of Jane's "problems" can border on sociopathic in the true sense of the term.
How sociopaths are:
Will never put blame on them self nor will they ever feel guilt or apologies if they did anything wrong. (They will apologies if it will get you convinced to be on their side though in a sense of manipulation/ to get what they want.)
Now I don't actually believe Jane is a full on sociopath she definitely has some problems but I know 100% Kenny is NOT a sociopath. You don't have to trust me on that but if it even helps a little I had to deal with a real sociopath before. He refused to take his medication because he didn't believe anything was wrong with him but displayed all of which I listed above.
Kenny repeats same mistakes and claims to be sorry and says he will change. He just keeps murdering and causing deaths and never changes.
You know, rational and objective people like Jane may seem like sociopath. You would probably think im a sociopath also if you knew me in real life.
Kenny never made that mistake before, he didn't kill Ben in cold blood as revenge, he did the contrary. Stabbing or shooting him in the leg may have gave Jane the advantage who in turn would have killed him.
Anyways, don't bother writing back to this. Truth be told, we could be arguing Jane vs Kenny for a long time and still have more to say, in the end our opinions will probably be the exact same as our initial ones. I don't think i'm going to change your mind about Jane and I don't think you will change my mind about Kenny.
I killed Kenny #Imsorryforthat but I like Jane, obviously if there was a choice to save Luke I would save him in the 1st place. But I have no regrets, I miss almost all of the characters who died till now
Well, I think it's a sign that this gus was BANNED;
AHHAHAAHHAHA
On the bridge. When Luke tells you to get the "small" walker, if you decide to take down the big one, you can actually kick the walker in the leg before hitting it.
Honestly it's hard to take sides even if I'm more of a Kenny person. Both lost it at some point.
No matter what happens, Clem will be alone again anyway
I agree. She was just as broken as Kenny. But what happened (the fight) was all on her. It could be avoided if she never attempted her 'trick' or just stop at any time and told them the truth (thus also making her point by showing Kenny's unstable temper to Clem). She tried not only to trick Kenny but Clem as well.
Kenny knows there is something wrong with him and wants to change it even if he can't. Jane however can't admit that she has done anything wrong there fore she is "always right".
There is nothing "rational" about leaving a baby in a turned off car with the window slightly cracked open during a blizzard to "prove a point" that was already very well known. Jane would have had me if she had not have done that and had actually use "true rational" to prove her point to Kenny.
It was an incredibly hard decision for me but I eventually shot Kenny.
It was rational, considering what her plan was.
Not at all rational. If anything reckless, irresponsible, and selfish. There were much better ways for her to handle the situation and she chose the worse way possible.
Her plan was to show how violent Kenny can get and it worked perfectly. Learn the meaning of word rational.
Rational is based on proven facts and not based on emotions. True that part of her plan was to show how violent Kenny was there was absolutely no need to prove it because it is already something known to everyone. Her plan was more likely to get Clem to go with her and not with Kenny/ to ditch Kenny. The way she acted during the whole game she wanted Clem for herself and no one else even suggesting that she should ditch the group. Better said she wanted a replacement for her sister. This would suggests that her plan is more based on her emotions rather than fact.
Her goal was to prove to Clementine that Kenny isnt safe to be around. Considering that, the most rational thing to do was to provoke Kenny in some way to show how dangerous he can be to people around him.
Its obvious without the need of provoking Kenny. Her provoking Kenny is a fool trying to prove something that has already been proven. If she was really all that smart she would have taken off with Clem without the need of confrontation or confront Kenny in a way the proves to himself that he is a danger without fighting, both of which is very possible. Instead she endangers both a baby's life and her own to prove a point that is pointless to prove to Clem because of how obvious it is. The fact that she is trying to prove something that has already been proven is irrational.
Well if Clem wasnt such a retard, they would have left Kenny behind when the zombies attacked them while they were in the car. There would have been no need to prove anything to Clem if she actually realized that Kenny is too dangerous to be around.
Clem isn't a retard she was just emotionally attached to Kenny. She has known Kenny much longer than she has Jane. If Jane had just correctly talked to Clem about it and not attempt to provoke Kenny by insulting him in the car she could indirectly have further proven her point to Clem without confrontation.
She said in the car "we could just leave", but Clementine didnt agree with her plan (which was stupid because i was already looking forward to leave Kenny behind).
Kenny started insulting her by calling Jane "nothing".
Doesn't matter who started it, her participating in it is more counterproductive. Jane also insulted Kenny but if she had backed away from that and was less aggressive she would indirectly prove her point. Also the fact that she wanted to leave AJ behind was likely the reason Clem refused to leave.