If you could rewrite Season 2...

edited September 2014 in The Walking Dead

**Say you have the opportunity to rewrite S2. What scenes would you add or change whilst still keeping a similar format to the original episodes?

Provided that the characters that have died this season still die or become unknown.(So a death can occur sooner or later. And a character can disappear)

If this doesn't make sense here's my idea's**

-Clem mentions Christa's baby during episode 4

-Nick dies in the shootout covering either Clem or the baby, (basically Nick dies saving someone)

-More conversations with Nick, who is starting to give up hope (not acting solely as Luke's cheerleader)

-If Rebbecca is blackmailed she will act cautious of Clem and will still eventually warm up to her but later then if you didn't

-Hints about Carver killing Roman and the cancer survivor group (Roman and Victor are part of the same group, former rivals of Carvers)

-Mike and Bonnie do not attempt to take "all" of the supplies

-Hubs during Episode 3-5

-Nick not determinate

-Kenny berates Nick about Matthew

-If Bonnie lied in 400 Days her lie sounds convincing when approached by Kenny, Clem and Walter, if she told the truth she sounds unsure

-Sarah is killed either in the trailer or in the shootout (shootout death gets her a one last determinant pinky swear with Clem)

-Mike will always be sympathetic to Clem when she confronts him Bonnie(determinant) and Arvo

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    • Have a longer time bonding with Kenny, talking about people in Season 1

    • Carver survives with tricks up his sleeves then hunts down the group.....by himself

    • Nick dies in the shootout

    • Pete dies in episode 4 same way as Nick

    • Eddie makes an appearance in episode 4

    • Actually got to meet and talk to the 400 days cast

    • If Bonnie chooses to save Luke she will die but Luke will survive no matter what.

    • Longer fight scene against Jane and Kenny ( 'They live' edition: )

    • Christa is in Wellington but you either abandon Kenny or leave Christa.

  • edited September 2014

    This may sound like a bit too much, but I probably would've rewrote Arvo's character entirely, still keep him Russian, but actually have him be one of the people living at Carver's camp, make him shy, and not very sociable, but have him and Clementine form a sort of friendship, with a few tender scenes of Clem helping him out with his English, which he studies from time to time, and I think maybe I would give him a character arc of feeling too scared to stand up to Carver who keeps insulting his heritage and language, but then it would probably get to a scene where carver demands to know where Clem is or something, and Arvo, with forming a tender friendship with Clem and getting to a point where Clem would convince him to stand up to people like Carver or so would tell Carver to fuck off or if Clem were a jerk to Arvo then Arvo would proceed to tell Carver where Clem is or what she's doing and Carver would leave Arvo alone, or if you were nice to Arvo Carver would then proceed to beat Arvo senseless, but Arvo sill telling Carver to go fuck himself, sort of like how the Kenny scene in the construction house played. Kenny would have stayed dead, and Carlos would have taken Kenny's place at being a tempered father figure who hates Carvers guts. I probably also would get Jane to do more things, like be Carver's right hand killer, it's cliche , I know, but I thought it would be interesting for her character.

  • edited September 2014

    I will leave it up to Telltale they are doing a wonderful job on it.

  • Nick and sarah lives and we leave with them

  • edited September 2014

    I would of Changed the whole Jane vs Kenny fight scene and had Luke there.

    Luke doesn't die in the ice, Bonnie and Mike try and leave with Arvo and convince Luke to ditch Kenny, Jane, Clem and the baby. Clem gets shot by Arvo, has the dream and wakes up in the truck and its the same but with Luke, Kenny and Jane in the truck.

    Jane and Kenny have their fight but it is canon that Kenny stabs Jane. Luke gets there right when Kenny stabs Jane, he is angry at Kenny but after seeing the full story of how she hid the baby he doesn't fully blame him, goes with them to wellington.

    The end choice I would of made is that Edith tells them they only have 2 spots left. Kenny begs Clem to go with Luke and AJ into wellington. So Clem can choose to go into Wellington with Luke or to Leave with Kenny.

    So its Choosing between Luke and Kenny.

  • Luke survives falling through the ice, and is non-determinate. You get an ending with him, Nick, and AJ.

  • Everything is the same until Kenny has the knife over Jane's chest. All shouty and stuff. Clem picks up the gun. She pulls the trigger (or not). A little flag pops out with BANG! written on it. She's like WTF? Then Kenny pushes the knife...

    The blade retracts into the handle. They all laugh. "It's a joke knife, Clem!" Howls of laughter. Everyone is happy.

    When they settle, Kenny and Jane explain that this was a lesson in the importance of getting along with people. It will be one of many lessons she's learn hanging out with Uncle Kenny and Auntie Jane and they'll have so many fun adventures ahead. Let's just pick up AJ (fake baby to teach her about caring for people) and meet up with Luke (warm swimming pool to help her deal with loss) and they'll hop on their unicorns and be on their way.

    Big fanfare and a happy song.

    THE END.

  • Carver, Arvo and Michelle never existed, everyone comes back to life and go eat the shit out of raccoons.

  • Have Carver kill Kenny in episode 3 ... Season Finale have Clementine kill Carver..

  • Plot twist; Sarah shoots Nick by accident trying to kill walkers.

    Ellias posted: »

    Nick and sarah lives and we leave with them

  • Actually, make Carver a BIG THEREAT until the very end, and make us choose between Jane,Kenny or Carver.

    remorse667 posted: »

    Have Carver kill Kenny in episode 3 ... Season Finale have Clementine kill Carver..

  • why would anyone choose Carver? Just curious.

    poplee posted: »

    Actually, make Carver a BIG THEREAT until the very end, and make us choose between Jane,Kenny or Carver.

  • Nah. Kenny dying would certify his legacy in season 2. Like Lee... He died before we had a chance to see him do real bad things.

    poplee posted: »

    Actually, make Carver a BIG THEREAT until the very end, and make us choose between Jane,Kenny or Carver.

  • The walking Kenny game?

    Legendary12 posted: »

    I would of Changed the whole Jane vs Kenny fight scene and had Luke there. Luke doesn't die in the ice, Bonnie and Mike try and leave wit

  • If only...

    remorse667 posted: »

    Have Carver kill Kenny in episode 3 ... Season Finale have Clementine kill Carver..

  • The real Question will Carver accept Clementine.

    However, Carver saw Clementine a fearless hardened person who is also caring and compassionate. Carver wanted Clem to be on his side In harms way because of her potential that he saw inside of her. Even when he is dying he told her to keep that feeling inside of her.

    I bet After they escape Carver would continue be a threat and hunt the people that destroy his community leaving Clementine Jane Kenny in the end and try to persuade Clementine into joining him. (I know it's cheesy but it's something I have in mind), and I don't think Caver would kill a child.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    why would anyone choose Carver? Just curious.

  • I'd have had more character development of the Cabin Group, and I'd especially have wanted for the choices you make regarding Sarah and being friends or not with her to make some sort of difference to the plot. Also, I'd have liked it more clearly shown why we couldn't just go around the edge of the frozen lake rather than traipse straight across it.

  • I actually was expecting for something like that to happen, that's why I didn't teach Sarah to shoot even though my Clem was friendly to her.

    remorse667 posted: »

    Plot twist; Sarah shoots Nick by accident trying to kill walkers.

    • Luke doesn´t die in that lake.

    • We get a Luke ending.

    As you can still I´m still sore.

  • kenny is the star of the game along with clem and lee hahaha

    zykelator posted: »

    The walking Kenny game?

  • Kenny is supportive character like everyone else.

    kenny is the star of the game along with clem and lee hahaha

  • Clementine would be a "certified G" riding dirty. Smoking "cess" and fucking with "yayo." Blastin' at "fools" with her gat. Not ever giving a F 'bout anybody's opinion.

    She'd be all tatted up and looking to hunt down "busta's."

    She'd aim her glock sideways.

    She'd bitch slap Kenny for calling her a "stupid fucken kid."

    She'd shank Troy after he hit her.

    She'd... ah you get the point, ya "mark."

    • 2 hour episodes, these episodes were too short.

    • Giving Victor the water in ep 1 makes him at least say something other than 'thank you'. Maybe he says something about who shot him or what happened to Christa.

    • The 400 days characters affect ep 3, maybe they actually change the outcome of the episode. E.g. If Vince is at Howe's, he tries to stop Kenny from killing Carver, and Carver survives or something.

    • Carrying on from the last idea, Carver either survives or dies based on who went with Tavia to Howe's in 400 days. This affects ep 4 and 5, maybe with him being the cause of the Russians coming after Clem's group or something.

    • Rewrite ep 4's story and choices. Nick doesn't die, Eddie is included and the choices have different outcomes on what happens. Saving Sarah keeps her alive for the whole episode, robbing Arvo changes why the Russian group come after you (if you robbed him, he comes after you to rob you, not robbing him makes him come after you because Carver killed a member of the Russian group, and this affects who survives the shootout.), the museum room choice is changed with 'Did you let the stranger in the group' (the stranger is Eddie, and he runs off with supplies if you let him in, and you find him dead if you didn't let him in.), holding the baby affects what his name will be, and shooting Rebecca causes Nick to live and he dies if vice versa is chosen.

    • Since both Sarah and Nick can make it to ep 5, choices made in ep 4 affect whether they die or live in the shootout. If Nick lives, he sacrifices himself to save Luke later on, and if he dies, Luke dies in the lake. If Sarah lives, she is the one shot by Arvo (because Arvo thinks it's Kenny in the darkness) and she dies. If Luke is alive as well, he kills Arvo and puts down Sarah and swears that he'll never let this happen to Clem. If Luke is dead, Clem has to put down Sarah in a scene similar to Duck's death in season 1. If Sarah dies in the shootout, Arvo shoots Clem as normal and escapes if Luke is dead. So, if Sarah lives in the shootout, Clem, Kenny, Jane, AJ and determinantly Luke go in the car.

    • So, since Luke can live to the car scene so far, it changes the Kenny/Jane fight. If he's there, Kenny will get pissed at him for not backing him up that Wellington is the best plan, and if he's not there, it carries on as normal. Luke then goes missing in the snowstorm. If Luke went missing, Kenny doesn't get as pissed off at Jane since she convinces him that Luke had AJ, but still fights her when Kenny works out she's lying.

    • In the 'enter Wellington' ending, when Clem is entering Wellington, she asks Edith if anyone has come in recently, and Edith mentions that a woman entered Wellington a week ago.When Clem is inside the gate, Edith says that the woman is called Lilly. Episode ends.
      So, some characters fates change:

    Luke becomes determinant; either dead or unknown.

    Sarah is still dead, but she has a different death.

    Nick is still dead, but he has a different death.

    Arvo becomes determinant, since he is either dead or missing.

    Carver becomes determinant, either dead or unknown.

    Eddie becomes determinant, either dead or unknown.

    Lilly becomes confirmed to be alive.

    These are just my personal thoughts on what should be changed, they aren't perfect but I think they are an improvement from the normal series of events.

  • i know

    zykelator posted: »

    Kenny is supportive character like everyone else.

  • We've got bad moments, but I wouldn't change a thing.

  • Nick would survive the season.

  • There's only one thing I would change and that would rewrite the entire season.

  • Stop whining and give some constructive critisism instead of complaining.

    Rhaeygar posted: »

    wow im so glad none of you work for telltale, just awful

  • wow im so glad none of you work for telltale, just awful

  • i'd rather you guys keep your day jobs

    lee4life posted: »

    Stop whining and give some constructive critisism instead of complaining.

  • I'd rather you stop bitching please. We're trying to have and actual discussion.

    Rhaeygar posted: »

    i'd rather you guys keep your day jobs

  • Nick's offscreen death was the only thing I truly hated, so I'd change that and give him a death that fit with his character.

  • no, i dont know what backwards country youre from but in the us we have freedom of speech, fan fiction however is copyright infringement

    lee4life posted: »

    I'd rather you stop bitching please. We're trying to have and actual discussion.

  • nice

    Smart , being racist will get your point across won't it?
    Also , the whole point of these forums are to have discussions about the game. What is thread doing? Just that.
    So while this is contributing you're just sitting down voicing your opinion that no one cares about he's actually contributing towards the goodness of the forums.
    Also this is for you

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    Rhaeygar posted: »

    no, i dont know what backwards country youre from but in the us we have freedom of speech, fan fiction however is copyright infringement

  • Yeah , that death was pretty bad.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Nick's offscreen death was the only thing I truly hated, so I'd change that and give him a death that fit with his character.

  • edited September 2014

    -More development on the characters to discover more about their past during gameplay time [Not just the cabin group but other characters like Bonnie and Mike.]

    -Nick being more involved within the group discussions, despite being determinate and have him survive until the last episode [whether being killed in the shootout or at the lake by walkers.]

    -For Sarah to have survived until the last episode instead of dying again at the deck, as well and for her mental state to weaken further to where she became a danger to herself [foreshadowing that the whole putting the gun to her head in Episode 2].

    -For Clem to have been able to give Sarah that hug ;_;

    -Luke being determinant or unknown, or just aliiiiiive.

    -The lake be a river so the idea of crossing it makes it seems like there's no other way [Also a current would make it harder to save someone if they fell in.]

    -For the group to have gone to the town, and that's why they want to cross the lake/river, because it'll soon be dark and have no choice if the crossing like a bridge is gone.

    -400 Days characters coming more into the story after In Harm's Way and for them to behaved differently depending on if they were at Carver's camp or not.

    -Nate Nate Nate Nate Nate Nate Nate [seriously he could've taken Carver's place as a bad guy easy, and been really crazy and fun too.]

    -For Christa to have returned and for Clem to have met that dude again by the river from Episode 1 so whether or not you gave him water, he may or may not show mercy.

    -One ending, but still with two options like in the last season with leaving or shooting Lee, and likewise to how The Wolf Among Us ended.

    -For Rebecca to of had the baby in episode 3 so it disrupted their escape plans, have everybody freaking out, Carver being crazy and thus had more going on in that episode instead of it being the basics of the great escape.

    -For Jane to have stayed gone so she wasn't made determinant and could've popped up again in the future.

    -That Clem had spoken about her time with Christa and what happened with her baby after AJ is born.

    -Kenny calling forth on his powers of being an AWESOME GOD to make it rain boats to some hip music!

  • freedom of speech

    Means you can say what you want, but does not mean that nobody can argue against you.

    Rhaeygar posted: »

    no, i dont know what backwards country youre from but in the us we have freedom of speech, fan fiction however is copyright infringement

  • Um, it is an empirical fact that in some countries there is little to no freedom of speech, its not racist lol

    lee4life posted: »

    nice Smart , being racist will get your point across won't it? Also , the whole point of these forums are to have discussions about the

  • Not sure what gave you that impression, i was being told to shut up and i defended myself thats all

    freedom of speech Means you can say what you want, but does not mean that nobody can argue against you.

  • backwards country

    it's not racist

    ...

    Rhaeygar posted: »

    Um, it is an empirical fact that in some countries there is little to no freedom of speech, its not racist lol

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