FINAL UPDATE: I think this game isn't a masterpiece.

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  • I think I'm gonna do that.

    fallandir posted: »

    Guys and gals, we need to encourage @Gloomy to play Season 2.

  • No, why would I want a refund?

    Tyranitar posted: »

    I don't understand your point do you want a refund or something

  • flat-out bullshit, the primary theme of this series has ALWAYS been death.

    You're being a flat now. The series is about life and staying alive in the apocaliptic world.

    CathalOHara posted: »

    Seriously, why did you post here? I get that you wanted to voice your opinion, but you posted this in the TELLTALE forum. Of course people a

  • Honestly I went from thinking you a troll to being a person with an opinion to a troll again.

    I am right, you just came here to complain that YOU didn't like the game, I'm going to guess you're are biased against the game just because of you not liking the apocolypse setting. You just want to complain and thats it, I was reading your final post and I thought it was okay till you said "We are delaying the truth", we can't "Face the reality" or were "Brainwashed".

    You are a troll, thats the reason you came to a fan forums to complain about a game and have the audicity that you're opinion is better than ours and critics. By the way, you wouldn't have gotten such a brutal welcome if this wasn't the FIRST thing you posted, don't complain about it, you brought this upon yourself.

  • It has no less false tension than any other fictional tale, ever.

    Disagree.

    The illusion of choice has no bearing on the plot (for the most part)

    I thought the freedom of choice was supposed to be a unique way to experience the game. "Craft relationships and make choices that fill out the story." So it doesn't make any sense.

    Bad examples.

    My examples. Things that bothered just me.

    "Story would have been better if there weren't so many "Holy shit, zombies! We gotta run!" moments..... In the zombie apocalypse? Please, do tell.

    You can make a good, logical story based on the sequence of cause and effect. Without zombies appearing out of nowhere, when plot demands it.

    Like what? Why would they change them? Every story has things that could be changed, but then it's a different story.

    Heh, no. Im gonna go with Lee and Clem's situation again. Lee needed to faint just to make the moment scarier. No real impact here, story wouldn't have changed if he stayed up concious.

    Are you arguing against story here?

    No, why?

    So you come for explanation, get an overwhelming amount of it (on a forum of the game, where the loves reside) ...why are you here again?

    I haven't received any convincing argument. That's why.

    Most of the people I see are completely ok with your opinion. It's you who is rejecting logic and the opinions of others.

    And that's the reason I wrote this particular sentence: "Yes, there are also people who think differently."

    Oh boy, it's becoming more and more interesting.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    First, it's just a game and it shouldn't be seen as exact copy of reality. But hear me out - this game is good. There's plenty of things I c

  • The war shall kill all!

    fallandir posted: »

    Stay strong, friend! It's just the opinion war, we're gonna get through this.

  • Out of curiosity what genre do you prefer? You said you don't like the whole "apocalyptic theme" so I'm curious as to which genre you prefer.

  • I didn't say this to all of you. Some were blindly convinced and accusing me on the spot for being a troll. Please, stop with that, it's just exhausting.

    Why my opinion would be better than anybody's? There are just opinions, we all can have one of our own.

    You really need to work on the perception of others' opinions. Seems like it's really big deal for you.

    Honestly I went from thinking you a troll to being a person with an opinion to a troll again. I am right, you just came here to complain

  • Well you did come to a FAN FORUM to complain about the game its about, sorry but its sounds like you just want a reaction by doing that.

    You keep saying we are "Delaying the truth", "Brainwashed", and can't "Face the reality". You know you should really take your own advice and just accept we have opnions that the game is great, you don't, you came here to complain and (as I expect) get a reaction out of us.

    You should honestly just stop, your original examples were bad, youre biased, and you're a...troll.

    Only word for it.

    Gloomy posted: »

    I didn't say this to all of you. Some were blindly convinced and accusing me on the spot for being a troll. Please, stop with that, it's jus

  • I'm not restricted person if it comes to video games, but Mystery, Stealth and Horror Games are my favourites.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Out of curiosity what genre do you prefer? You said you don't like the whole "apocalyptic theme" so I'm curious as to which genre you prefer.

  • Who's the second main character: Kenny

    Co-protagonist. At least get the term rigth.

    Who is talked about the most: Kenny

    No.

    Who gets the most 'development': Kenny

    So... What about Luke? Or Jane? Or Clem? Or Sarah? Yes, they focused more of the development of Kenny that most other characters, but to say that he gets the most development is ridicolous and is no really a reason to say season 2 was "Kenny: A game about Kenny."

    Who is the center of most scenes: Kenny

    No.

    Who is the fan favorite: Kenny

    So?

    Who is every character talking about in almost every scene: Kenny

    No.

    Who is actually the main 'villain' of the game: Kenny

    ...I have no words for this shit.

    Who is the overarcing focus of the game: Kenny

    Oh, sorry, you are rigth. I thougth that Clem, the fucking protagonist, was the focus of the game but I guess I was wrong.

    Talimancer posted: »

    Who's the second main character: Kenny Who is talked about the most: Kenny Who gets the most 'development': Kenny Who is the center

  • Well, it seems I'm here all tied up, can't open a damn mouth without hearing another accusation.

    How can I accept your opinions if you didn't accept what I said myself? I'm trying my best, but keep getting hit by more insults.

    Just stop.

    Well you did come to a FAN FORUM to complain about the game its about, sorry but its sounds like you just want a reaction by doing that.

  • You need to stop too, when you open your mouth you just create us reasons to make "accusations".

    Gloomy posted: »

    Well, it seems I'm here all tied up, can't open a damn mouth without hearing another accusation. How can I accept your opinions if you didn't accept what I said myself? I'm trying my best, but keep getting hit by more insults. Just stop.

  • It's a thread about why I didn't like the game, not why you did like it.

    You need to stop too, when you open your mouth you just create us reasons to make "accusations".

  • But didn't you want us to tell you why we thought it was a "masterpiece"?

    You're kinda forgetting why you claim you made it.

    Gloomy posted: »

    It's a thread about why I didn't like the game, not why you did like it.

  • Sure buddy, don't debate my points just say they are wrong. Really shows me the error of my ways.

    The co-protagonist isn't really the right word as Kenny is never shown to be a protagonist.

    What is every character, Bonnie, Mike, Luke. Everyone's main talking point. Kenny. Ep5 definatly. Ep2 he took up half the episode. Ep3 it's Kenny vs Luke. Ep4 It's Kenny.

    The above point already explains it

    So to your so.

    No

    Thanks blew my point out to sea. Thanks dude

    I have no words for this shit

    You don't seem to have a lot of words for anything. Just simple comebacks that make you seem like you're trying to be 'cool and edgy'
    Tell me one time that any character say something different about Clementine than "little girl" That's her whole angle. While Kenny has his:

    1. Mental state
    2. Relationship with Clementine
    3. Everyone's distrust of him
    4. Everyone's fear of him
    5. Kenny Vs Luke
    6. Kenny Vs Jane
    7. Kenny kills Carver
    8. Kenny Kills Jane
    9. Kenny delludes himself in thinking Clementine and AJ are duck
    10. Kenny wanting to die
    AlanSpencer posted: »

    Who's the second main character: Kenny Co-protagonist. At least get the term rigth. Who is talked about the most: Kenny

  • Yes, I want you to tell me about the game, instead of calling me names.

    But didn't you want us to tell you why we thought it was a "masterpiece"? You're kinda forgetting why you claim you made it.

  • Please go on

    I'm having the time of my life here

    Talimancer posted: »

    Who's the second main character: Kenny Who is talked about the most: Kenny Who gets the most 'development': Kenny Who is the center

  • I've heard he comes back in S2, I think Christa would've survived this incident anyway if TT would need her to something.

    Hazzer posted: »

    It's still not out of character though, is it? He wasn't a complete cunt... Couldn't just let Christa die due to his own clumsy mistake.

  • No, I'm actually right. You can check up on it yourself.

    Gloomy posted: »

    flat-out bullshit, the primary theme of this series has ALWAYS been death. You're being a flat now. The series is about life and staying alive in the apocaliptic world.

  • Hope I can be less of a dick without those nitpicked details now.

    Hazzer posted: »

    Bleh, just seems like a dick move to wander onto a fanbase's forum and declare what they love mediocre from a bunch of stupid nitpicked details. He got the response he wanted.

  • edited October 2014

    Disagree.

    How so? There is no more tension in another fictional work because it has the same applicable possibilities. Unless we refer to stories with meaningful, long lasting branching story lines. Those are few and far between in themselves, and even then the "meaningful" choices are often one character for another, or a character whos later lines are no more significant than a small grin or a semi-sentimental phrase either being present or not. Actually, rather similar to the "less meaningful" choices of the walking dead game.

    I thought the freedom of choice was supposed to be a unique way to experience the game. "Craft relationships and make choices that fill out the story." So it doesn't make any sense.

    Tailored. It is never stated your game will drastically change due to your choices. And relationships are crafted differently by how you choose to communicate with particular people and the actions you do to them (directly or otherwise) and around them. Seems to me your most major gripe with the game is expecting branching story lines where no such thing was promised.

    My examples. Things that bothered just me.

    Which were stated as problems with the realism of the game. And the majority of which were completely realistic. (Of course there are unrealistic things like zombies, but that can't be a gripe when you buy the game with a zombie on the front cover.)

    You can make a good, logical story based on the sequence of cause and effect. Without zombies appearing out of nowhere, when plot demands it.

    Yes, but if the zombies are rendered as little more than insignificant pests who posses no more danger than a distant pack of rampaging kittens then why have them in the game at all? Why would people be afraid of them? You need to have events which signify that the zombies are nearly omnipresent and a constant danger, lest the entire premise of society falling to ruins due to them be completely lost and you end up having groups of people killing each other for the fuck of it and no rebuilding process taking place for the fuck of it. Zombie threats and zombie events most definitely belong in a zombie game. Should there also be no alien attacks in an alien invasion game/movie? Just because it moves the plot along doesn't make it's solely for the purpose of moving the plot along.

    Heh, no. Im gonna go with Lee and Clem's situation again. Lee needed to faint just to make the moment scarier. No real impact here, story wouldn't have changed if he stayed up conscious.

    Again, that could be changed, but why should it be? It's to add to the story, to make it scary, to build tension, to make it more interesting. Are you asking for a more bland experience simply so you can say that didn't do something? The real impact is in how you feel about the situation at hand. It's good story telling, not an unnecessary additive.

    No, why?

    Because it seems like you are.

    I haven't received any convincing argument. That's why.

    You've received many. I could also say Martin Luther King Jr. never gave a passionate speech. Since opinion dictates what I see as passionate and what I see as not it can't really be argued, but we all know the truth.

    And that's the reason I wrote this particular sentence: "Yes, there are also people who think differently."

    And I agreed with you on that subject. My post, which you misinterpret or attempt to misrepresent was aimed at your statement "There are so many brainwashed people who can't deal with it, rejecting the opinions of those who disagree" to which I said most of the people I have seen in this thread are actually quite contradictory to your slanderous dibble.

    Gloomy posted: »

    It has no less false tension than any other fictional tale, ever. Disagree. The illusion of choice has no bearing on the plot

  • Gotta love blind fanboys, hey buddy. Consider going back to tumblr, it's where you belong.

    aldimon posted: »

    Please go on I'm having the time of my life here

  • So sad. So true.

    Talimancer posted: »

    Who's the second main character: Kenny Who is talked about the most: Kenny Who gets the most 'development': Kenny Who is the center

  • edited October 2014

    Sure buddy, don't debate my points just say they are wrong. Really shows me the error of my ways.

    You are just being a hypocrite. Sure, I only provided a reason for two of your point, but you didn´t explain a single thing.

    The co-protagonist isn't really the right word as Kenny is never shown to be a protagonist.

    So you said season 2 is "Kenny: a game about Kenny" and not you are saying calling him the co-protagonist, the second most important character of a story, is wrong?

    K

    What is every character, Bonnie, Mike, Luke. Everyone's main talking point. Kenny. Ep5 definatly. Ep2 he took up half the episode. Ep3 it's Kenny vs Luke. Ep4 It's Kenny.

    At parts, sure, but it´s not like Kenny is the only thing the other characters worry about. Episode 2 was is return, so putting some of the focus of him is not unreasonable. Episode 3 was not about Kenny vs Luke, it was about escaping. Episode 4 was about finding a new place to settle down, find the missing member of the group, Rebeca about to have birth, etc. Is not like everything about Episode 4 revolved around Kenny-far for it. But yes, Episode 5 did revolve about Kenny. So what? That´s not enougth to say that Season 2 was "Kenny: a game about Kenny."

    Thanks blew my point out to sea. Thanks dude

    You didn´t explain anything, either.

    You don't seem to have a lot of words for anything. Just simple comebacks that make you seem like you're trying to be 'cool and edgy'

    Good to know, considering that this part is just a simple comeback. Kept being such a blatant hypocrite, please. Is funny.

    Tell me one time that any character say something different about Clementine than "little girl" That's her whole angle.

    Well, most of the Cabin Group didn´t care she was a littel girl. Actually, pretty much nobody cared about that.

    In any case:

    Luke: Clem, you didn´t even blink.

    He says that in Episode 4 if you watch Kenny kill Carver.

    While Kenny has his:

    And Clem has, in no particular order:

    1. Mental state.
    2. Relationship with Kenny.
    3. Dealing with responsability.
    4. Her relationship with Sarah.
    5. Kenny or Luke
    6. Kenny or Jane
    7. Watch Kenny kill Carver or not.
    8. Look away or shoot Kenny.
    9. Deciding that she is better on her own or not.
    10. Stay with Kenny or leave at Wellington
    11. Accept the family or turn the family away.

    Kenny delludes himself in thinking Clementine and AJ are duck

    Seriously?

    Talimancer posted: »

    Sure buddy, don't debate my points just say they are wrong. Really shows me the error of my ways. The co-protagonist isn't really the rig

  • edited October 2014

    Consider going back to tumblr, it's where you belong.

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    Talimancer posted: »

    Gotta love blind fanboys, hey buddy. Consider going back to tumblr, it's where you belong.

  • This thread is getting way too out of hand. Although I disagree with most of your statement, you do have some good points. But I still love this game. People just need to grow up and learn to respect people's opinions, obviously not addressing that to everyone here, because most of you are fine. But the way people are taking it is out of control.

  • Can you name a few of those games? Im curious.

    Gloomy posted: »

    I'm not restricted person if it comes to video games, but Mystery, Stealth and Horror Games are my favourites.

  • I love you seriously

    I have to screenshot this

    Talimancer posted: »

    Gotta love blind fanboys, hey buddy. Consider going back to tumblr, it's where you belong.

  • I did provide points. While you just said 1 word long sentences. And explain how I'm being a hypocrite. Again nothing to back up your shit. The rest is just an appalling attempt at a response so I'm going to skip to the bare bones of your 'argument'

    Yes the cabin group did not care she was a little girl. You know, except the times they either gave her unreasonable tasks or cared that she was a little girl. The whole dog bite scene revolved around her bite and her age. It was a moral dilema as she was just a child. And a lot of people cared that she was. Carver, Bonnie and Kenny.

    And that list is just listing what happens. While also proving my original point of a 'Game of Kenny'

    Relationship with Kenny.

    Kenny or Luke

    Kenny or Jane

    Watch Kenny kill Carver or not.

    Look away or shoot Kenny.

    Stay with Kenny or leave at Wellington

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    Sure buddy, don't debate my points just say they are wrong. Really shows me the error of my ways. You are just being a hypocrite. Su

  • Let original point go over your head and then attempt to act the higher party. Nice tactic kid. Seen it somewhere before though...

    aldimon posted: »

    I love you seriously I have to screenshot this

  • edited October 2014

    Holy shit, this thread was created yesterday and has almost 3K views...

  • i think both of you are right

    CathalOHara posted: »

    No, I'm actually right. You can check up on it yourself.

  • Yeah, I think it caught a lot of people's attentions.

    Holy shit, this thread was created yesterday and has almost 3K views...

  • Calling names?

    Gloomy posted: »

    Yes, I want you to tell me about the game, instead of calling me names.

  • In not particular order:

    • Cryostasis,

    • Amnesia The Dark Descent,

    • Penumbra,

    • Metro,

    • Enslaved: Odyssey to the West,

    • The Wolf Among Us,

    • Portal,

    • Limbo

    etc...

    Can you name a few of those games? Im curious.

  • You've already played TWAU? Awesome.

    Gloomy posted: »

    In not particular order: * Cryostasis, * Amnesia The Dark Descent, * Penumbra, * Metro, * Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, * The Wolf Among Us, * Portal, * Limbo etc...

  • I really liked it, it's a great game.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    You've already played TWAU? Awesome.

  • "Troll" isn't the nicest name I've got. I'm not hater or biased either.

    Calling names?

  • If you're offended by troll or hater, the internet may not be your place.

    Also I was just stating the truth, you don't like apocalypse games and it had a difference in your opinion.

    Gloomy posted: »

    "Troll" isn't the nicest name I've got. I'm not hater or biased either.

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