IDK its is kinda weird how some people obsessed over short time characters like ben, Eddie (specially him), and Nate. it is actually kinda annoying how people bitch so much about them, but i just ignore it. but back to the question, idk, maybe they see themselves in them, or they want to be like them. idk.could careless if he is on S3
I remember this one character named Ben, he was responsible for death's yet Clem still argued to keep him in the group. There was also this other kid we'll call Duck. He was responsible for the death of this guy named Shawn. Was he a bad Duck? Even Lee murdered someone but spent the rest of his life trying to atone for that by protecting Clem.
It's all about perspective. You claim Kenny is a bad guy for beating Arvo nearly to death. To me, Arvo deserved it so Kenny was acting to protect the group.
Yes, I know no matter what example I or anyone else gives, you'll just find a way to reverse it to fit your perspective which is fine. Just realize not everyone here see's thing the same way as you!
Because some people have died doesn't make her a bad person.
It makes her responsible for their deaths. She ran away, and they died … morelooking for her. Leaving Sarah to die in the trailer, all the mean things you can say/do.
Yes I did,
You must of been asleep or in the bathroom when he beat Arvo nearly to death.
But those lines and actions are determinant, she's a bad person if you made her a bad person, I didn't make her a bad person. She made a mistake, she wanted to believe her parents were alive, but that doesn't make her a bad person.
ahh sorry didnt see that. yeah everyone got their view. i dont think he is a complete good guy, he tries to be but his actions come from rage. like Joel from TLOU everyone is crowning him the villian but i dont think so... completely
How does beat a guy to death is going to protect anyone? He did it during the gunfire or after Arvo shoot Clem i would fine , but how the hell beating without no reason it´s fine.
I remember this one character named Ben, he was responsible for death's yet Clem still argued to keep him in the group. There was also this… more other kid we'll call Duck. He was responsible for the death of this guy named Shawn. Was he a bad Duck? Even Lee murdered someone but spent the rest of his life trying to atone for that by protecting Clem.
It's all about perspective. You claim Kenny is a bad guy for beating Arvo nearly to death. To me, Arvo deserved it so Kenny was acting to protect the group.
Yes, I know no matter what example I or anyone else gives, you'll just find a way to reverse it to fit your perspective which is fine. Just realize not everyone here see's thing the same way as you!
She thought it was broken when it was actually just the batteries dying. Then Doug/Carley gave her new batteries, and The Stranger manipulated her into not telling Lee or anyone else. Was she stupid, yes, but that again doesn't make her a bad person.
Clementine isn't a totally good person anymore, neither is Kenny.
There are no good people left. If you remember, Alvin wanted to selfishly claim the peaches for Rebecca. Sure, she was pregnant. No excuse to do it behind the back of everyone else.
Just one example that shows there are no entirely good people left in TWD universe.
But he also offers you a juicebox and gives you some bandages when you need help with your arm and, like Clem can say to Rebecca, "Everything he did was for you and the baby."
Rest is dead and buried.
Clementine isn't a totally good person anymore, neither is Kenny.
There are no good people left. If you remem… moreber, Alvin wanted to selfishly claim the peaches for Rebecca. Sure, she was pregnant. No excuse to do it behind the back of everyone else.
Just one example that shows there are no entirely good people left in TWD universe.
To be honest, the term "good" is a vague term. "Good" is somewhat a word that we use when a person is beneficial to us. Kenny to Clementine is a good person, but everyone else view him as a villain. The Howes group,asides Carver, probably viewed the Clem's group as threat or "bad guys" in there eyes, for destroying their community. The herd plan probably inadvertently killed innocent people in the Howes community that never wronged her. In a way, Clementines group is somewhat a bad group to the innocent Howes people. No one is genuinely good in the Walking Dead world.
To be fair he is quite a somewhat complex two-dimensional character. He appears to have a softer sympathetic side that actually (maybe) cared about Russell, but due to past behaviour, tendencies and the heavy implication he went crazy after Eddie presumably killed his friend, he seems to be a broken and almost tragic portrayal on what occurs when grief isn't dealt with properly. He somehow manages to have more development, emotional attachment, complexity and interest than some of the characters in Season Two, who had whole episodes to do this, and Nate managed to live up to this in a short twenty minute section.
Honestly I kind of agree on the theme of redemption, however I believe Clementine should meet someone like Nate and treat them based on how you treated Kenny. She can tell Nate isn't as far gone as Kenny, but he's slipping and this time her potential child-like innocence and past may want her to save Nate, or simply leave him behind to a decrepit world she no longer holds out hope for.
He is an interesting character, he's not exactly good but he is entertaining and really complex, which is weird because he doesn't really have that much screentime but he still managed to be way more complex than most of the cast of both Seasons, he is just an interesting character which causes people to want to see more of him, to be honest it would be great to know his story, why is he the way he is?
To be honest, the term "good" is a vague term. "Good" is somewhat a word that we use when a person is beneficial to us. Kenny to Clementine … moreis a good person, but everyone else view him as a villain. The Howes group,asides Carver, probably viewed the Clem's group as threat or "bad guys" in there eyes, for destroying their community. The herd plan probably inadvertently killed innocent people in the Howes community that never wronged her. In a way, Clementines group is somewhat a bad group to the innocent Howes people. No one is genuinely good in the Walking Dead world.
He was in it for 10 minutes (not including Wyatt's chapter) and was a nut job. I respect your opinion, but that doesn't seem like a well written character to me.
Like, the thing with Nate for me is that he does sociopathic things but it seems like he has genuine attachments to Russell and his friend whom he was chasing Wyatt and Eddie over. (That's why, right? Because Eddie killed him?) Like there feels as if he has some sort of underlying sadness and that's not pure sociopathy I don't think...It's hard for me to describe, I have no idea what I'm getting at here.
But despite that he's still batshit and unpredictable and hard for me to read/analyze. He's so chaotic I can't help but be intrigued by him. (And by intrigued I mean I have a strange obsession with him as a character.) He's kinda funny too.
Nate is soo much fun. He can see the good in a bad situation. He and Asswipe were in real trouble dealing with that deranged old fart, but in the end he was able to make it seem like a good day. I just want to see Nate and Russell;s Gran join Jane, Clem and the family at Howe's, that would be a perfect addition to the group.
Are you serious? He was well-written for a character only shown for 10 minutes. Just go back and play/watch it, look at his personality and tell me that isn't well written.
He was in it for 10 minutes (not including Wyatt's chapter) and was a nut job. I respect your opinion, but that doesn't seem like a well written character to me.
Are you serious? He was well-written for a character only shown for 10 minutes. Just go back and play/watch it, look at his personality and tell me that isn't well written.
In those 10 minutes he managed to be a more interesting an nuanced character than most of the cast of the entire 2 Seasons, that's why people want more of him, I mean if he was able to make such a big impression in that little time obviously they did something right with him.
He was in it for 10 minutes (not including Wyatt's chapter) and was a nut job. I respect your opinion, but that doesn't seem like a well written character to me.
I like him because he's a good comic relief, and he reminds me of Trevor from GTA 5. Deranged, unpredictable, probably meth addicted hillbilly but with a heart of gold. Also, I bet he's balding under his hat.
Well, you don't have to be just like a character to identify with them. I find myself relating to Travis Bickle's character (from Taxi Driver) but I could never go on a kill-crazy rampage, even if it was killing scumbag pedo's and drug pushers. I just don't think I have it in me.
Identifying with a character is very important in establishing a connection. I think we can all say Crazy_George would never drive drunk or kill two elderly people out-of-spite for their earlier threat they posed. He probably like's Nate because he relates to some of Nate's character-traits.
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IDK its is kinda weird how some people obsessed over short time characters like ben, Eddie (specially him), and Nate. it is actually kinda annoying how people bitch so much about them, but i just ignore it. but back to the question, idk, maybe they see themselves in them, or they want to be like them. idk.could careless if he is on S3
Then why don´t just shoot him in the head?
I remember this one character named Ben, he was responsible for death's yet Clem still argued to keep him in the group. There was also this other kid we'll call Duck. He was responsible for the death of this guy named Shawn. Was he a bad Duck? Even Lee murdered someone but spent the rest of his life trying to atone for that by protecting Clem.
It's all about perspective. You claim Kenny is a bad guy for beating Arvo nearly to death. To me, Arvo deserved it so Kenny was acting to protect the group.
Yes, I know no matter what example I or anyone else gives, you'll just find a way to reverse it to fit your perspective which is fine. Just realize not everyone here see's thing the same way as you!
Don't you realize that she lied the whole time about having a broken radio? Or did you forget that part.
The plot didnt call for it.
ahh sorry didnt see that. yeah everyone got their view. i dont think he is a complete good guy, he tries to be but his actions come from rage. like Joel from TLOU everyone is crowning him the villian but i dont think so... completely
How does beat a guy to death is going to protect anyone? He did it during the gunfire or after Arvo shoot Clem i would fine , but how the hell beating without no reason it´s fine.
She thought it was broken when it was actually just the batteries dying. Then Doug/Carley gave her new batteries, and The Stranger manipulated her into not telling Lee or anyone else. Was she stupid, yes, but that again doesn't make her a bad person.
b/c he's kind of like this guy
and that guy
They're menacing but entertaining at the same time
Rest is dead and buried.
Clementine isn't a totally good person anymore, neither is Kenny.
There are no good people left. If you remember, Alvin wanted to selfishly claim the peaches for Rebecca. Sure, she was pregnant. No excuse to do it behind the back of everyone else.
Just one example that shows there are no entirely good people left in TWD universe.
He's an interesting character but I'm not obsessed with him or anything. I wouldn't mind if they brought him back and I wouldn't mind if they didn't.
But he also offers you a juicebox and gives you some bandages when you need help with your arm and, like Clem can say to Rebecca, "Everything he did was for you and the baby."
I don't really like him, to me he's just a psychopath who I don't want to return.
Because:
He's NATEEEEEEE
To be honest, the term "good" is a vague term. "Good" is somewhat a word that we use when a person is beneficial to us. Kenny to Clementine is a good person, but everyone else view him as a villain. The Howes group,asides Carver, probably viewed the Clem's group as threat or "bad guys" in there eyes, for destroying their community. The herd plan probably inadvertently killed innocent people in the Howes community that never wronged her. In a way, Clementines group is somewhat a bad group to the innocent Howes people. No one is genuinely good in the Walking Dead world.
To be fair he is quite a somewhat complex two-dimensional character. He appears to have a softer sympathetic side that actually (maybe) cared about Russell, but due to past behaviour, tendencies and the heavy implication he went crazy after Eddie presumably killed his friend, he seems to be a broken and almost tragic portrayal on what occurs when grief isn't dealt with properly. He somehow manages to have more development, emotional attachment, complexity and interest than some of the characters in Season Two, who had whole episodes to do this, and Nate managed to live up to this in a short twenty minute section.
Honestly I kind of agree on the theme of redemption, however I believe Clementine should meet someone like Nate and treat them based on how you treated Kenny. She can tell Nate isn't as far gone as Kenny, but he's slipping and this time her potential child-like innocence and past may want her to save Nate, or simply leave him behind to a decrepit world she no longer holds out hope for.
Nate's "edge" in a nutshell.
He is an interesting character, he's not exactly good but he is entertaining and really complex, which is weird because he doesn't really have that much screentime but he still managed to be way more complex than most of the cast of both Seasons, he is just an interesting character which causes people to want to see more of him, to be honest it would be great to know his story, why is he the way he is?
I'm curious about him.
He's a very well written character, considering it's a DLC.
except my love carley
He was in it for 10 minutes (not including Wyatt's chapter) and was a nut job. I respect your opinion, but that doesn't seem like a well written character to me.
How? When was it ever mentioned, or even implied that Nate has/would do anything like that?
I think people overreact and misjudge Nate.
Love that Nate.
Like, the thing with Nate for me is that he does sociopathic things but it seems like he has genuine attachments to Russell and his friend whom he was chasing Wyatt and Eddie over. (That's why, right? Because Eddie killed him?) Like there feels as if he has some sort of underlying sadness and that's not pure sociopathy I don't think...It's hard for me to describe, I have no idea what I'm getting at here.
But despite that he's still batshit and unpredictable and hard for me to read/analyze. He's so chaotic I can't help but be intrigued by him. (And by intrigued I mean I have a strange obsession with him as a character.) He's kinda funny too.
Nate is soo much fun. He can see the good in a bad situation. He and Asswipe were in real trouble dealing with that deranged old fart, but in the end he was able to make it seem like a good day. I just want to see Nate and Russell;s Gran join Jane, Clem and the family at Howe's, that would be a perfect addition to the group.
What Larry's not good enough for your list?
Are you serious? He was well-written for a character only shown for 10 minutes. Just go back and play/watch it, look at his personality and tell me that isn't well written.
He's just kind of creepy to me, like someone said, he's the male mundy version of Bloody Mary, the only difference is that I like Bloody Mary.
In those 10 minutes he managed to be a more interesting an nuanced character than most of the cast of the entire 2 Seasons, that's why people want more of him, I mean if he was able to make such a big impression in that little time obviously they did something right with him.
Ah... uh...well he's Nate, shouldn't that be enough?
Because he was an unpredictable, enthusiastically evil antagonist who appeared in two stories.
He definitely could have livened up Season 2.
Nah, I like Nate, but I sincerely doubt that a guy who spends his days lurking the forums is "like Nate in every way".
I like him because he's a good comic relief, and he reminds me of Trevor from GTA 5. Deranged, unpredictable, probably meth addicted hillbilly but with a heart of gold. Also, I bet he's balding under his hat.
I can totally see that. Nate and Mary FTW.
Why? He tried to kill you and the granny was as good as dead.
That's an example right there. He got to you, right? Made you feel a little creeped out and uncomfortable? That's a well-written character.
But yeah, I like Bloody Mary too.
He's a cool character.
Well, you don't have to be just like a character to identify with them. I find myself relating to Travis Bickle's character (from Taxi Driver) but I could never go on a kill-crazy rampage, even if it was killing scumbag pedo's and drug pushers. I just don't think I have it in me.
Identifying with a character is very important in establishing a connection. I think we can all say Crazy_George would never drive drunk or kill two elderly people out-of-spite for their earlier threat they posed. He probably like's Nate because he relates to some of Nate's character-traits.
Still, he could have just shot them in the head to prevent reanimation.