i know i laughed at that part too. I wouldn't describe Kenny as intelligent, however he isn't a dumb ass he did get that truck fixed three years after the apocalypse.
Joel murdered those three cannibals after getting information out of them - they were completely harmless, but were apart of the group that had taken Ellie. If that doesn't scream revenge I don't know what does.
Joel. He has been through more devastating situations than Kenny, and has killed to keep his companion safe, not for revenge. He is also a very good thinker, never acting with ONLY emotion.
During the apocalypse, Joel reverted into NEVER talking about his past, or his emotions. He even became a bandit, murdering innocents so he could take their stuff. He shed his morals to survive - all this after his daughter dying. That's what you call a breakdown.
Despite all the shit Kenny has seen, he's not once shed any morals, or hurt those he recognised as innocent (I know someone will say Arvo, that's why I say recognise - in the moment, Kenny thought Arvo was at fault).
While they are both less than moral at their worst. I would definitely pick Joel. In comparison he's more approachable, cool-headed, likable… more, and mentally stable compared to Kenny. He's also a superior survivor and fighter, having twenty years of experience in a zombie (clicker) apocalypse, and he has yet to break down.
Cannibals and harmless don't fit together. THEY EAT PEOPLE THEY MEAT. (Pun is obvious). These people would keep eating other people if Joel hadn't seen to that.
Joel murdered those three cannibals after getting information out of them - they were completely harmless, but were apart of the group that had taken Ellie. If that doesn't scream revenge I don't know what does.
I don't think I would want to travel with either of them. They've both suffered so much, and they both have major trust issues, I wouldn't f… moreeel safe travelling with Joel or Kenny unless I was a 12-year-old girl.
In terms of capability, Joel has survived two decades in a world infested with a deadlier breed of zombie (this would explain his much more"pessimistic" worldview when compared to Kenny) and Kenny is half blind, so I would feel safer with Joel.
This whole thread is asking people who they'd travel with in a post-apocalyptic setting. Fighting abilities make up a large percentage of weighing your decision.
Yes, I commented on a chain of posts talking about fighting abilities, but those posts were completely irrelevant to what you two were reply… moreing to in the first place, hence why I said what I said. It had nothing to do with my opinions about either Joel or Kenny. Choosing Kenny simply because of not knowing anything about Joel or TLOU is obviously completely reasonable, and has nothing to do with comparing the characters' fighting abilities.
I suppose I should apologize for the insult though. That may have been a little uncalled for.
You're not getting it. Think about the original comment. Tinni said she would travel with Kenny because she doesn't know anything about Joel. How is that not reasonable to you..? Obviously tagging along with someone you happen to actually know, trust, and like, makes infinitely more sense than choosing someone you know absolutely nothing about. Your whole objection to the opinion really made little sense.
Fighting abilities make up a large percentage of weighing your decision.
This whole thread is asking people who they'd travel with in a post-apocalyptic setting. Fighting abilities make up a large percentage of weighing your decision.
Joel is simply the better fighter.
Dude, the ending was Joel acting with nothing BUT emotion. And he caused far more damage and death during that ending than Kenny could ever hope to achieve.
Joel. He has been through more devastating situations than Kenny, and has killed to keep his companion safe, not for revenge. He is also a very good thinker, never acting with ONLY emotion.
He did, but you can't let a girl get killed like that. I wasn't specifically talking about the ending, but it wasn't just emotion. When he killed the chick, he did it so no one could pursue them and kill her. It was necessary.
Dude, the ending was Joel acting with nothing BUT emotion. And he caused far more damage and death during that ending than Kenny could ever hope to achieve.
Your whole objection to the opinion really made little sense.
I wasn't objecting to their choice, they said "why did the Kenny-hater's hijack the thread?" I was simply stating that the reason why so many "Kenny-haters" are choosing Joel is that Joel can offer something Kenny cannot. Protection. His fighting skills are impressive, he's intelligent, and he's reliable. Fighting skills are very important in surviving a post-apocalyptic hell-scape despite what you may say.
You're not getting it. Think about the original comment. Tinni said she would travel with Kenny because she doesn't know anything about Joel… more. How is that not reasonable to you..? Obviously tagging along with someone you happen to actually know, trust, and like, makes infinitely more sense than choosing someone you know absolutely nothing about. Your whole objection to the opinion really made little sense.
Fighting abilities make up a large percentage of weighing your decision.
That's 100% subjective.
The Fireflies were doing what was necessary. Joel was doing what was emotional and selfish. Not just killing her either, but murdering his way through an entire hospital and killing every single person in it. How many people did he murder for Ellie? People that were trying to save humanity? Because of Joel there probably won't ever be a cure. He fucked the entire human race so he could save one person.
He did, but you can't let a girl get killed like that. I wasn't specifically talking about the ending, but it wasn't just emotion. When he killed the chick, he did it so no one could pursue them and kill her. It was necessary.
I agree, but to be fair, there were more immune people. Plus, Ellie's a girl. If she was immune, having a child would make them immune as well, right? That would be more beneficial for Ellie. Like I said, there are more immune, so Ellie doesn't have to die prematurely.
The Fireflies were doing what was necessary. Joel was doing what was emotional and selfish. Not just killing her either, but murdering his w… moreay through an entire hospital and killing every single person in it. How many people did he murder for Ellie? People that were trying to save humanity? Because of Joel there probably won't ever be a cure. He fucked the entire human race so he could save one person.
Ah, well thanks for the clarification. I guess I was the one not getting it.
No, it's not... at all.
You're speaking to the reasoning behind someone else's decision.. which may or may not actually factor in fighting ability behind the decision making. So yes, it's completely subjective.
Your whole objection to the opinion really made little sense.
I wasn't objecting to their choice, they said "why did the Kenny-hater… more's hijack the thread?" I was simply stating that the reason why so many "Kenny-haters" are choosing Joel is that Joel can offer something Kenny cannot. Protection. His fighting skills are impressive, he's intelligent, and he's reliable. Fighting skills are very important in surviving a post-apocalyptic hell-scape despite what you may say.
That's 100% subjective.
No, it's not... at all.
Funnily enough, you can actually get through that entire hospital sequence killing only two people (that guy you interrogate at the very beginning, and the head surgeon. I guess you could count Marlene too, if you want). Not that it changes anything though.
The Fireflies were doing what was necessary. Joel was doing what was emotional and selfish. Not just killing her either, but murdering his w… moreay through an entire hospital and killing every single person in it. How many people did he murder for Ellie? People that were trying to save humanity? Because of Joel there probably won't ever be a cure. He fucked the entire human race so he could save one person.
Ah, well thanks for the clarification. I guess I was the one not getting it.
No, it's not... at all.
You're speaking to the re… moreasoning behind someone else's decision.. which may or may not actually factor in fighting ability behind the decision making. So yes, it's completely subjective.
There's beneficial for Ellie (One person) and beneficial for the entire human race (Considerably more than one person). It sucks that the operation would have killed her, but now that a cure will never be found, how many people are going to die to the infected? Their blood is on Joel's hands, but he doesn't care because he has Ellie. Even Ellie herself would be horrified had she learned what Joel had actually done.
I agree, but to be fair, there were more immune people. Plus, Ellie's a girl. If she was immune, having a child would make them immune as we… morell, right? That would be more beneficial for Ellie. Like I said, there are more immune, so Ellie doesn't have to die prematurely.
Of course it's a crucial component in being able to survive, but that doesn't mean it actually needs to carry weight in someone's decision making over choosing one person over the other. It's not all just about survival with everyone. So again, being the better fighter doesn't necessarily carry weight with everyone, and in the case of it carrying weight, the proportion of that weight could be different from person to person. It's subjective to the very definition.
I guess I was the one not getting it.
Well, at least you're self aware.
You're speaking to the reasoning behind someone else's… more decision.. which may or may not actually factor in fighting ability behind the decision making.
What are you getting at? That being able to handle yourself is not a crucial component in being able to survive? Or, did you just poorly word it?
So yes, it's completely subjective.
Nope, it's still super not.
What I've gathered is that you'd choose for Kenny to be your protector because you'd have a more enjoyable time with him. Fine, ok then. I can accept that, truly I can.
But it's still not subjective. Fighting is very important to surviving violent bandits and flesh-eating whatever it is. And, unfortunately for Kenny, Joel has an edge or two over Kenny when it comes to this particular area.
Of course it's a crucial component in being able to survive, but that doesn't mean it actually needs to carry weight in someone's decision m… moreaking over choosing one person over the other. It's not all just about survival with everyone. So again, being the better fighter doesn't necessarily carry weight with everyone, and in the case of it carrying weight, the proportion of that weight could be different from person to person. It's subjective to the very definition.
There's beneficial for Ellie (One person) and beneficial for the entire human race (Considerably more than one person). It sucks that the op… moreeration would have killed her, but now that a cure will never be found, how many people are going to die to the infected? Their blood is on Joel's hands, but he doesn't care because he has Ellie. Even Ellie herself would be horrified had she learned what Joel had actually done.
What I've gathered is that you'd choose for Kenny to be your protector because you'd have a more enjoyable time with him. Fine, ok then. I c… morean accept that, truly I can.
But it's still not subjective. Fighting is very important to surviving violent bandits and flesh-eating whatever it is. And, unfortunately for Kenny, Joel has an edge or two over Kenny when it comes to this particular area.
What I've gathered is that you'd choose for Kenny to be your protector because you'd have a more enjoyable time with him. Fine, ok then. I c… morean accept that, truly I can.
But it's still not subjective. Fighting is very important to surviving violent bandits and flesh-eating whatever it is. And, unfortunately for Kenny, Joel has an edge or two over Kenny when it comes to this particular area.
So, ok. Fighting doesn't matter then in an apocalyptic world ravaged by cannibals, rapists, flesh-hungry undead, bandits that carry an entire arsenal of weapons, and other things that can kill you.
And knowing is half the battle... the other half is subjective.
It really doesn't make much sense that you can accept an opposite viewpoint and then turn around and say the matter isn't subjective.
Sub… morejective: "Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions."
It's not as if there is some sort of universal criteria that everyone follows for this.
I haven't played the entire game a second time through, but I did just finish season one - season 2 for the first time and I picked Kenny.. and I am so glad I did. He's always been a favorite of mine. There were times I struggled with my choices, when it came to him, but in the end, I liked my decision. Now to play it again and see what else is out there!
Can you say for certain that she wasn't the last immune person in the world? Can you say that operating on her would have yielded no cure FOR CERTAIN? Because unlike the other immune people, IIRC, something was different about Ellie's condition. Maybe that difference was what could have saved the world. It doesn't matter if there were other immune people when the amount of immune people is so small (In game it's like a dozen, mentioned in a log or some such) that in order to get one, they literally had to hike for a year across the entire country through bandit and zombie infested warzones. Ellie very well might have been the world's last hope, but because of Joel that hope was snuffed out.
It's been a while since I last saw the ending, but the playthrough I watched (Don't have a PS3 ) I just saw the guy murder his way through the hospital. I didn't realize sneaking was an option. Still, sneaking or murder, I still hate Joel.
Funnily enough, you can actually get through that entire hospital sequence killing only two people (that guy you interrogate at the very beg… moreinning, and the head surgeon. I guess you could count Marlene too, if you want). Not that it changes anything though.
Yeah, you can sneak around all of the soldiers, and also use smoke bombs, which are infinitely useful at that part. Sneak as much of the area as you can, and toss some in high traffic areas or near the doors you need to exit through for good measure.
Funny how the part where Joel has the most reason to actually carve a destructive path of murder is also the part where you don't even need to.
It's been a while since I last saw the ending, but the playthrough I watched (Don't have a PS3 ) I just saw the guy murder his way through the hospital. I didn't realize sneaking was an option. Still, sneaking or murder, I still hate Joel.
Would you mind pointing out where I said fighting ability doesn't matter? I didn't say that anywhere. I was only saying that people value that ability on different levels.
For example, who would you rather be with in an apocalyptic world? People you actually care about, or Rambo? Obviously being with Rambo would be massively advantageous for surviving, but on the other hand, you could wish to fight alongside those who are close to you, ect. Rambo being the vastly superior fighter doesn't nesescarily carry any weight in this decision making.
Some people need to learn how to admit when they're wrong.
So, ok. Fighting doesn't matter then in an apocalyptic world ravaged by cannibals, rapists, flesh-hungry undead, bandits that carry an entir… moree arsenal of weapons, and other things that can kill you.
And knowing is half the battle... the other half is subjective.
To hell with humanity, why would you even want to save them? Look at all the things humans do in the game, are they worth saving? Joel blames humanity for his daughter's death so you think he's gonna let another get killed for them? It's not his or Ellie's responsibility to save the world, I don't know why some make it seem like it's an obligation. Even if he did let them kill her, who knows if it would even work? I'm pretty sure even if it did it wouldn't bring back majority of the world, they're gone. How would they even spread it? You can't blame Joel for what he did, he probably hasn't felt happiness since his daughter died (20 years), then once he starts to become happy again with Ellie, they try to fucking kill her!!! Fuck them and fuck humanity.
The Fireflies were doing what was necessary. Joel was doing what was emotional and selfish. Not just killing her either, but murdering his w… moreay through an entire hospital and killing every single person in it. How many people did he murder for Ellie? People that were trying to save humanity? Because of Joel there probably won't ever be a cure. He fucked the entire human race so he could save one person.
Yeah, that's great, sentence millions of people to death so that you can feel happy again. Makes wonderful sense, perfectly justifiable. Let an entire species die out and become extinct for your own personal well being. Totally cool.
Of course I can blame Joel for what he did, he knew exactly what the consequences would be for his entire species, and he gave zero fucks about all the people he was sentencing to death. If he did let them operate on Ellie, who the hell knows if it would work or not, but a chance, even a small one, is better than just giving up and letting everyone die. And don't act like they were killing her simply for teh lulz, it was the only way to try and make a cure. If there was a way for Ellie to live and still do the operation, they sure as hell would have gone that route, but it wasn't an option so they were doing what they had to do for the greater good. But then Joel crashed the party, started killing people, and decided that the needs of the few (Himself) came before the needs of the many (Every other person on Earth).
And guess what? Before you go full on "Fuck humanity," remember that you're a human being too. Therefore part of humanity.
To hell with humanity, why would you even want to save them? Look at all the things humans do in the game, are they worth saving? Joel blame… mores humanity for his daughter's death so you think he's gonna let another get killed for them? It's not his or Ellie's responsibility to save the world, I don't know why some make it seem like it's an obligation. Even if he did let them kill her, who knows if it would even work? I'm pretty sure even if it did it wouldn't bring back majority of the world, they're gone. How would they even spread it? You can't blame Joel for what he did, he probably hasn't felt happiness since his daughter died (20 years), then once he starts to become happy again with Ellie, they try to fucking kill her!!! Fuck them and fuck humanity.
Can you say for certain that she wasn't the last immune person in the world? Can you say that operating on her would have yielded no cure FO… moreR CERTAIN? Because unlike the other immune people, IIRC, something was different about Ellie's condition. Maybe that difference was what could have saved the world. It doesn't matter if there were other immune people when the amount of immune people is so small (In game it's like a dozen, mentioned in a log or some such) that in order to get one, they literally had to hike for a year across the entire country through bandit and zombie infested warzones. Ellie very well might have been the world's last hope, but because of Joel that hope was snuffed out.
...yeah, I know there's more immune people. Doesn't mean they don't have to operate on Ellie. They also flat out told Joel that there was something different about Ellie's condition that the other immune people didn't have, making operating on her even more important that it would be for a normal immune person, of which there probably aren't very many of left considering how dangerous the world is and that the surgery is fatal.
Yeah, that's great, sentence millions of people to death so that you can feel happy again. Makes wonderful sense, perfectly justifiable. Let… more an entire species die out and become extinct for your own personal well being. Totally cool.
Of course I can blame Joel for what he did, he knew exactly what the consequences would be for his entire species, and he gave zero fucks about all the people he was sentencing to death. If he did let them operate on Ellie, who the hell knows if it would work or not, but a chance, even a small one, is better than just giving up and letting everyone die. And don't act like they were killing her simply for teh lulz, it was the only way to try and make a cure. If there was a way for Ellie to live and still do the operation, they sure as hell would have gone that route, but it wasn't an option so they were doing what they had to do for the greater good. But then Joel crashed the party, started killing people, and … [view original content]
First off, operating on a little girl for the entire race is horrible if there are other, older people like her. Secondly, we should probably stop with TLOU on TWD forum.
...yeah, I know there's more immune people. Doesn't mean they don't have to operate on Ellie. They also flat out told Joel that there was so… moremething different about Ellie's condition that the other immune people didn't have, making operating on her even more important that it would be for a normal immune person, of which there probably aren't very many of left considering how dangerous the world is and that the surgery is fatal.
First off, operating on a little girl for the entire race is horrible if there are other, older people like her. Secondly, we should probably stop with TLOU on TWD forum.
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Intelligence and knowledge are two very different things.
Kenny IS a smart man, he wouldn't have lasted so long if he wasn't, but he clearly doesn't have much an ideal education now, does he?
Joel murdered those three cannibals after getting information out of them - they were completely harmless, but were apart of the group that had taken Ellie. If that doesn't scream revenge I don't know what does.
During the apocalypse, Joel reverted into NEVER talking about his past, or his emotions. He even became a bandit, murdering innocents so he could take their stuff. He shed his morals to survive - all this after his daughter dying. That's what you call a breakdown.
Despite all the shit Kenny has seen, he's not once shed any morals, or hurt those he recognised as innocent (I know someone will say Arvo, that's why I say recognise - in the moment, Kenny thought Arvo was at fault).
Cannibals and harmless don't fit together. THEY EAT PEOPLE THEY MEAT. (Pun is obvious). These people would keep eating other people if Joel hadn't seen to that.
Welcome!!!!
This whole thread is asking people who they'd travel with in a post-apocalyptic setting. Fighting abilities make up a large percentage of weighing your decision.
Joel is simply the better fighter.
You're not getting it. Think about the original comment. Tinni said she would travel with Kenny because she doesn't know anything about Joel. How is that not reasonable to you..? Obviously tagging along with someone you happen to actually know, trust, and like, makes infinitely more sense than choosing someone you know absolutely nothing about. Your whole objection to the opinion really made little sense.
That's 100% subjective.
Dude, the ending was Joel acting with nothing BUT emotion. And he caused far more damage and death during that ending than Kenny could ever hope to achieve.
He did, but you can't let a girl get killed like that. I wasn't specifically talking about the ending, but it wasn't just emotion. When he killed the chick, he did it so no one could pursue them and kill her. It was necessary.
I wasn't objecting to their choice, they said "why did the Kenny-hater's hijack the thread?" I was simply stating that the reason why so many "Kenny-haters" are choosing Joel is that Joel can offer something Kenny cannot. Protection. His fighting skills are impressive, he's intelligent, and he's reliable. Fighting skills are very important in surviving a post-apocalyptic hell-scape despite what you may say.
No, it's not... at all.
The Fireflies were doing what was necessary. Joel was doing what was emotional and selfish. Not just killing her either, but murdering his way through an entire hospital and killing every single person in it. How many people did he murder for Ellie? People that were trying to save humanity? Because of Joel there probably won't ever be a cure. He fucked the entire human race so he could save one person.
I agree, but to be fair, there were more immune people. Plus, Ellie's a girl. If she was immune, having a child would make them immune as well, right? That would be more beneficial for Ellie. Like I said, there are more immune, so Ellie doesn't have to die prematurely.
Ah, well thanks for the clarification. I guess I was the one not getting it.
You're speaking to the reasoning behind someone else's decision.. which may or may not actually factor in fighting ability behind the decision making. So yes, it's completely subjective.
Funnily enough, you can actually get through that entire hospital sequence killing only two people (that guy you interrogate at the very beginning, and the head surgeon. I guess you could count Marlene too, if you want). Not that it changes anything though.
Well, at least you're self aware.
What are you getting at? That being able to handle yourself is not a crucial component in being able to survive? Or, did you just poorly word it?
Nope, it's still super not.
There's beneficial for Ellie (One person) and beneficial for the entire human race (Considerably more than one person). It sucks that the operation would have killed her, but now that a cure will never be found, how many people are going to die to the infected? Their blood is on Joel's hands, but he doesn't care because he has Ellie. Even Ellie herself would be horrified had she learned what Joel had actually done.
Of course it's a crucial component in being able to survive, but that doesn't mean it actually needs to carry weight in someone's decision making over choosing one person over the other. It's not all just about survival with everyone. So again, being the better fighter doesn't necessarily carry weight with everyone, and in the case of it carrying weight, the proportion of that weight could be different from person to person. It's subjective to the very definition.
What I've gathered is that you'd choose for Kenny to be your protector because you'd have a more enjoyable time with him. Fine, ok then. I can accept that, truly I can.
But it's still not subjective. Fighting is very important to surviving violent bandits and flesh-eating whatever it is. And, unfortunately for Kenny, Joel has an edge or two over Kenny when it comes to this particular area.
You ignored the fact that there are more immune around, so Ellie was NOT the World's last hope.
I love Joel.
Such a beautiful beast.
I love Joel.
Such a beautiful beast!
"an edge or two"?
More like the entire grand canyon
It really doesn't make much sense that you can accept an opposite viewpoint and then turn around and say the matter isn't subjective.
Subjective: "Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions."
It's not as if there is some sort of universal criteria that everyone follows for this.
So, ok. Fighting doesn't matter then in an apocalyptic world ravaged by cannibals, rapists, flesh-hungry undead, bandits that carry an entire arsenal of weapons, and other things that can kill you.
And knowing is half the battle... the other half is subjective.
I haven't played the entire game a second time through, but I did just finish season one - season 2 for the first time and I picked Kenny.. and I am so glad I did. He's always been a favorite of mine. There were times I struggled with my choices, when it came to him, but in the end, I liked my decision. Now to play it again and see what else is out there!
Can you say for certain that she wasn't the last immune person in the world? Can you say that operating on her would have yielded no cure FOR CERTAIN? Because unlike the other immune people, IIRC, something was different about Ellie's condition. Maybe that difference was what could have saved the world. It doesn't matter if there were other immune people when the amount of immune people is so small (In game it's like a dozen, mentioned in a log or some such) that in order to get one, they literally had to hike for a year across the entire country through bandit and zombie infested warzones. Ellie very well might have been the world's last hope, but because of Joel that hope was snuffed out.
It's been a while since I last saw the ending, but the playthrough I watched (Don't have a PS3
) I just saw the guy murder his way through the hospital. I didn't realize sneaking was an option. Still, sneaking or murder, I still hate Joel.
Yeah, you can sneak around all of the soldiers, and also use smoke bombs, which are infinitely useful at that part. Sneak as much of the area as you can, and toss some in high traffic areas or near the doors you need to exit through for good measure.
Funny how the part where Joel has the most reason to actually carve a destructive path of murder is also the part where you don't even need to.
Would you mind pointing out where I said fighting ability doesn't matter? I didn't say that anywhere. I was only saying that people value that ability on different levels.
For example, who would you rather be with in an apocalyptic world? People you actually care about, or Rambo? Obviously being with Rambo would be massively advantageous for surviving, but on the other hand, you could wish to fight alongside those who are close to you, ect. Rambo being the vastly superior fighter doesn't nesescarily carry any weight in this decision making.
Some people need to learn how to admit when they're wrong.
To hell with humanity, why would you even want to save them? Look at all the things humans do in the game, are they worth saving? Joel blames humanity for his daughter's death so you think he's gonna let another get killed for them? It's not his or Ellie's responsibility to save the world, I don't know why some make it seem like it's an obligation. Even if he did let them kill her, who knows if it would even work? I'm pretty sure even if it did it wouldn't bring back majority of the world, they're gone. How would they even spread it? You can't blame Joel for what he did, he probably hasn't felt happiness since his daughter died (20 years), then once he starts to become happy again with Ellie, they try to fucking kill her!!! Fuck them and fuck humanity.
Yeah, that's great, sentence millions of people to death so that you can feel happy again. Makes wonderful sense, perfectly justifiable. Let an entire species die out and become extinct for your own personal well being. Totally cool.
Of course I can blame Joel for what he did, he knew exactly what the consequences would be for his entire species, and he gave zero fucks about all the people he was sentencing to death. If he did let them operate on Ellie, who the hell knows if it would work or not, but a chance, even a small one, is better than just giving up and letting everyone die. And don't act like they were killing her simply for teh lulz, it was the only way to try and make a cure. If there was a way for Ellie to live and still do the operation, they sure as hell would have gone that route, but it wasn't an option so they were doing what they had to do for the greater good. But then Joel crashed the party, started killing people, and decided that the needs of the few (Himself) came before the needs of the many (Every other person on Earth).
And guess what? Before you go full on "Fuck humanity," remember that you're a human being too. Therefore part of humanity.
Did you even pay attention? The Fireflies flat out told Joel there were more immune.
...yeah, I know there's more immune people. Doesn't mean they don't have to operate on Ellie. They also flat out told Joel that there was something different about Ellie's condition that the other immune people didn't have, making operating on her even more important that it would be for a normal immune person, of which there probably aren't very many of left considering how dangerous the world is and that the surgery is fatal.
You ignored all of my other points, try again.
What points did I miss? Tell me, so I can address them.
First off, operating on a little girl for the entire race is horrible if there are other, older people like her. Secondly, we should probably stop with TLOU on TWD forum.
Yeah, this probably is enough TLOU since we're on a TWD forum. Agree to disagree?
Nah, I see your points. I agree with you.