Were you saying?
Yes, I was saying it's better to try to salvage the life of an unconscious man then to smash in his head because yo… moreu're paranoid.
The studies show 0.0% of unconscious people survive paranoid rednecks with saltlicks. Your point is as valid as the flimsy statistic I've pulled out of my ass just now. This is a question of morality, not how "bad for Larry the situation looked."
It's not, IMO. One can argue that Kenny was only thinking of the safety of the group, making his intentions "good", but he didn't even try to help Larry and automatically assumed he was dead. As another person mentioned, it wasn't Kenny's decision to make, but Lily's.
Agreed and that's why I've liked her despite the whole Carley/Doug incident. She made the tough decisions, like rationing food, and had been the one who kept the group going while Kenny would be on the sidelines criticizing her for not tending to his family in particular. I wished that there was a way to have Lee actually sympathize with her like he did with Kenny. I'm guessing we weren't allowed that though because they wanted her to be painted as an evil person by having her send off being one where she's killed a group member while Kenny's send off is to have him attempt to heroically save somebody.
I personally think Lily is the most tragic character in The Walking Dead, more so than Kenny.
The amount of pain she endured, I was alway… mores there to try and keep her and Kenny "murderboner" on fair grounds. It can't be easy to have witnessed something like that happen and then try to still keep the civility of your group intact by not killing the man. She's much stronger than I would have been.
Maybe it's best to settle on an easier explanation: they did a less-than-stellar job at making this choice morally ambiguous, instead managing to make it a bit too black-and-white.
I think this situation could have been made much more ambiguous. Make it err more to the side of Larry actually being dead and raise the stakes. That breath he supposedly takes is seems like it's more there for the shock-value "oh look he's breathi-WHAT THE FUCK KENNY" than it is an attempt to keep his fate unknown. If anything, it de-values the decision of killing him, and almost makes that look like an invariably bad choice. I don't think that was meant to be the intention, given that the game prides itself on grey-morality conflicts, and that the choice is referred to as "Pragmatism" in the stats screen.
I don't think that makes Kenny a murderer. His intention was to save the group, not to simply murder anyone and the 'breath' could have either been a breath and the final gasp of someone dieing which we'll never really know. Also I don't believe the word "murder" applies in a ZA. Murder is a crime as defined by law. There is no more law, there are no more crime's, it's all actions taken in order to survive.
They may kill each other for various reason's and we can argue about the good or bad or morality of those reason's.
For example: You and your family are starving, you'll die in a day or two unless you find food and supplies. You come across another family who has food.. You ask for some to feed your family.. They refuse. You can understand why they refuse but that mean's you and your family will die.. Will you simply let your family die, or kill the other family in order to save your's? Maybe that makes you a murderer in your or someone elses eyes, but your a savior to your family. You can argue the morality of that but in the end, the morality doesnt matter if your dead.
I don't think that makes Kenny a murderer. His intention was to save the group, not to simply murder anyone and the 'breath' could have eit… moreher been a breath and the final gasp of someone dieing which we'll never really know. Also I don't believe the word "murder" applies in a ZA. Murder is a crime as defined by law. There is no more law, there are no more crime's, it's all actions taken in order to survive.
They may kill each other for various reason's and we can argue about the good or bad or morality of those reason's.
For example: You and your family are starving, you'll die in a day or two unless you find food and supplies. You come across another family who has food.. You ask for some to feed your family.. They refuse. You can understand why they refuse but that mean's you and your family will die.. Will you simply let your family die, or kill the other family in order to save your's? Maybe that makes you a murderer in your… [view original content]
Sure it was, it was his life too on the line, he had a family to save and it was his choice to do what he had to, to protect himself, Kat and Duck. You may call it murder, I call it surviving!
I don't think that makes Kenny a murderer. His intention was to save the group, not to simply murder anyone and the 'breath' could have eit… moreher been a breath and the final gasp of someone dieing which we'll never really know. Also I don't believe the word "murder" applies in a ZA. Murder is a crime as defined by law. There is no more law, there are no more crime's, it's all actions taken in order to survive.
They may kill each other for various reason's and we can argue about the good or bad or morality of those reason's.
For example: You and your family are starving, you'll die in a day or two unless you find food and supplies. You come across another family who has food.. You ask for some to feed your family.. They refuse. You can understand why they refuse but that mean's you and your family will die.. Will you simply let your family die, or kill the other family in order to save your's? Maybe that makes you a murderer in your… [view original content]
Yes!.. what if he didn't end Larry's life and Larry died and turned into a walker and bit someone? Should they just allow that to happen just so they remain moral? Wouldn't you end someones life to save your own or your families?
I personally think Lily is the most tragic character in The Walking Dead, more so than Kenny.
The amount of pain she endured, I was alway… mores there to try and keep her and Kenny "murderboner" on fair grounds. It can't be easy to have witnessed something like that happen and then try to still keep the civility of your group intact by not killing the man. She's much stronger than I would have been.
I personally think Lily is the most tragic character in The Walking Dead, more so than Kenny.
The amount of pain she endured, I was alway… mores there to try and keep her and Kenny "murderboner" on fair grounds. It can't be easy to have witnessed something like that happen and then try to still keep the civility of your group intact by not killing the man. She's much stronger than I would have been.
Yes!.. what if he didn't end Larry's life and Larry died and turned into a walker and bit someone? Should they just allow that to happen just so they remain moral? Wouldn't you end someones life to save your own or your families?
Wouldn't you end someones life to save your own or your families?
I don't know, haven't been in that situation. And besides, I'd already know that I'd have to kill him/her unlike Larry, who could have been saved.
Sure it was, it was his life too on the line, he had a family to save and it was his choice to do what he had to, to protect himself, Kat and Duck. You may call it murder, I call it surviving!
Yes!.. what if he didn't end Larry's life and Larry died and turned into a walker and bit someone? Should they just allow that to happen just so they remain moral? Wouldn't you end someones life to save your own or your families?
what if
I can play what if games too.
What if Larry would of recovered.
What if Larry would of been extremely grateful, that Lee saved his life, he made peace with him.
Well from what we can perceive he stopped breathing, that right there meant he died. She of course was ignorant about being alive or death and is and in as much denial as you are.
Yes, a very big chance CPR would work.
I'm gonna go watch some Baywatch(1989) so that I can also believe CPR has high chances of ever working.
what does that have to do with anything
Because, for someone who is so adamantly against every single character trait of Jane. You t… morealk a lot like her. That's all.
"Oh, God, he's stopped breathing!" - Lilly
"He's not dead! Lee, please, help me!" -Lily
Unconscious people breathe, dead people don't. He died. Yeah there's a CHANCE that CPR might work but he DIED and from what we know so far in what's written in the lore, the infection starts as soon as the person dies. btw CPR isn't as effective as movies make it seem.
Yes, a very big chance CPR would work. Recitation does work, especially for people who only momentarily stop breathing.
Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) is a lifesaving technique useful in many emergencies, including heart attack or near drowning, in which someone's breathing or heartbeat has stopped. The American Heart Association recommends that everyone — untrained bystanders and medical personnel alike — begin CPR with chest compressions
Maybe he could have been saved.. I will admit that, but I wouldnt be willing to take that chance for 2 reasons.
1: Larry already tried to… more kill my Lee so as Lee I helped Kenny kill Larry
2: I wouldnt take the chance that Larry dies and turn's to bite me.
I didn't agree with him when he did (and I still don't) but I guess he did it for his family. They were still out there at the hands of the cannibals and if Larry turned they would've been screwed. Plus he didn't really like the guy nor his daughter and we all know how Kenny reacts when he is trapped or in danger, he acts before thinking.
your right Crazy, Kenny was a hypocrite in that case but there are a couple differences.
1: Duck was not bitten at that time
2:Duck never attempted to kill anyone like Larry did to Lee
3:Without nitro, the odd's of Larry surviving that heart attack were very slim and as big as he was, posed a far greater threat to everyone than a walker Duck would have.
I was the one that pulled the definition. I never stated that a low percentage of heart attack victims survive cardiopulmonary resuscitation, that was you.
helplessly watch walker larry take off his daughters face and then rip little clem apart?
It never would have gotten to that level if Kenny was cool headed like Lee was trying to be. There was never a single indication Larry was dead. He was passed out from a heart attack, and Kenny murdered him.
Nope! And if you read my post I answered that question, he was a cock we know it, but he didnt deserve to die because of it... I wrote that … moreabove.
But my job was to protect clem and the group and that includes lilly !
When you understand the situation that we found ourselves in only then can judge the morality of the situation..... for example.......
You and 4 of your friends are walking down the street, 2 of those friends get run over...... would you leave them and walk on? No! And neither would I....
Now lets change the situation....
You and 4 of your buddys are storming the Normandy beaches on D day..... 2 of your friends get shot in the face..... now what do you do? Help them in the vain attempt you can save them or at least ease there suffering, while in doing so putting your remaining 2 buddys and yourself in grave danger of having your head took off?
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Hey, i'm on Kennys side here and your side, I agreed with what Kenny did not only because I fucking hated the shit out of larry but because Kenny/Lee are my fav characters..
"If however larry as turning into a walker then Kenny did save his people and did make a right choice to smash his head with a salt brick." … moreSo he can't hold the saltlick over Larry's head, and wait for a signal from Lee?
"Kenny thought he was right." "Kenny obviously right with what he did, but at the time of the moment he thought he was in the right to try and save his friends by killing Larry." These are things that Jane supporters can say about her actions too....
helplessly watch walker larry take off his daughters face and then rip little clem apart?
It never would have gotten to that level i… moref Kenny was cool headed like Lee was trying to be. There was never a single indication Larry was dead. He was passed out from a heart attack, and Kenny murdered him.
There isn't much morally right about it other than for the protection of Kenny himself and Lee and Clem and even Lilly in the meat locker. Kenny justified his act by saying he was going to turn and because he didn't have a pulse is a logical train of thought. I hated Larry for trying to kill Lee in front of Clem in the drug store so when I saw that he was going to be a Dick when we are trying to get out of the meat locker, well there is no love lost because if it had been Lee who passed out Larry would've probably done the same as Kenny did.
It's pretty messed up if you choose to help Kenny, you have to hold Lily back while Kenny grabs the saltlick I mean I understand that it was a dire situation but I felt like Kenny panicked and was too quick to kill him.
We have had months/years to look into this situation, we had threads on here quoting full on medical papers on heart attacks, still no one is 100% sure one way or another weather we could have saved larry with the equipment we had at hand being in the situation we were in.. and while playing the game on our first playthrough we had seconds to react. Not months with google!
It was a well crafted to scene to put us in a very tense and awkward position, if it was as simple as you make out the scene would not have worked... end of story...
Again even with all the time we have had researching this event we have failed to come up with a rock solid outcome either way, my view is still that if we had a medical specialist her now they would say chances are slim we would have been able to do a lot given our lack of medical tools and the situation we were in..
Was kenny to quick to pull the trigger? Yes... but please remember that this is the early days of the apocalypse, either way.. im still happy with my decision.....
I dont know what you want me to say? Really I dont... iMHO I did my job to the best of my ability at that time with the limited amount of knowledge/equipment and time I had in that situation...
What do you want me to say..? Im an evil fuck who should not be allowed to walk among society.... while you on the other hand are calm under fire and are able to carry out stage one medical procedures in the darkest of situations...
Happy?
Jesus... really some folks around here...
Duno how many times I have to say this, the choices ingame (S1 atleast) are purposely grey.... they are not black and white.. right or wrong... thats what makes it the game it is...
But then again im not the one running around screaming some other guys decision was WRONG while having noooo medical experience what so ever in peace time never mind a ZA...... so no matter who chose what I think I know who is the deluded one around these here parts...
helplessly watch walker larry take off his daughters face and then rip little clem apart?
It never would have gotten to that level i… moref Kenny was cool headed like Lee was trying to be. There was never a single indication Larry was dead. He was passed out from a heart attack, and Kenny murdered him.
Are you really angry that we on a video game forum site are discussing the morality of a scene in a video game?
If you think it was ok, then say that. You keep flipping back and forth between rash reasonable arguments to "What do you want me to say? I'm an evil fuck?"
No, I don't. I want your opinion of the action Kenny performed. Nothing more, nothing less. If it's too hard for you to do without typing out like twelve different arguments... fine.
But then again im not the one running around screaming some other guys decision was WRONG while having noooo medical experience what so ever in peace time never mind a ZA...... so no matter who chose what I think I know who is the deluded one around these here parts...
I think you're a bit salty not because this argument has hit a nerve, but because it is an argument asking for an answer you cannot justify from a character you admire.
I dont know what you want me to say?
Was smashing Larry's head in front of his daughter right? Yes or no.
Dear god!
* You Still can't be certain of this
* We have had months/years to look into this situation, we had threads on here quoting … morefull on medical papers on heart attacks, still no one is 100% sure one way or another weather we could have saved larry with the equipment we had at hand being in the situation we were in.. and while playing the game on our first playthrough we had seconds to react. Not months with google!
* It was a well crafted to scene to put us in a very tense and awkward position, if it was as simple as you make out the scene would not have worked... end of story...
Again even with all the time we have had researching this event we have failed to come up with a rock solid outcome either way, my view is still that if we had a medical specialist her now they would say chances are slim we would have been able to do a lot given our lack of medical tools and the situation we were in..
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Actually, if you successfully press Larry's chest 4 times before Kenny saltlicks him, you can see he begins to take a breath... therefore he WAS alive.
"He's not dead! Lee, please, help me!" -Lily
Well from what we can perceive he stopped breathing, that right there meant he died. Sh… moree of course was ignorant about being alive or death and is and in as much denial as you are.
Yes, a very big chance CPR would work.
I'm gonna go watch some Baywatch(1989) so that I can also believe CPR has high chances of ever working.
Actually, he only takes that breath if you do a certain amount of compressions, if he was turning, he'd do it every time and not just when you press his chest a certain amount of times.
Well to be fair, a bunch of strangers came into the drug store, possibly endangering the whole group and Duck was covered in gore, looking like he could've been bit, without actual evidence that he wasn't bit.
Completely agree. I get the strange feeling, seeing as Kenny holds grudges, he was waiting for an opportunity to "subtract" Larry from the picture.
Larry, after all, suggests "smashing in" Duck's head in episode one. So, the connection is there.
Actually, if you successfully press Larry's chest 4 times before Kenny saltlicks him, you can see he begins to take a breath... therefore he WAS alive.
Are you really angry that we on a video game forum site are discussing the morality of a scene in a video game?
If you think it was ok, t… morehen say that. You keep flipping back and forth between rash reasonable arguments to "What do you want me to say? I'm an evil fuck?"
No, I don't. I want your opinion of the action Kenny performed. Nothing more, nothing less. If it's too hard for you to do without typing out like twelve different arguments... fine.
But then again im not the one running around screaming some other guys decision was WRONG while having noooo medical experience what so ever in peace time never mind a ZA...... so no matter who chose what I think I know who is the deluded one around these here parts...
I think you're a bit salty not because this argument has hit a nerve, but because it is an argument asking for an answer you cannot justify from a character you admire.
I dont know what you want me to say?
Was smashing Larry's head in front of his daughter right? Yes or no.
Well to be fair, a bunch of strangers came into the drug store, possibly endangering the whole group and Duck was covered in gore, looking like he could've been bit, without actual evidence that he wasn't bit.
It never would have gotten to that level if Kenny was cool headed like Lee was trying to be. There was never a single indication Larry was dead. He was passed out from a heart attack, and Kenny murdered him.
This is the reason for my last post.... you dont have any grounds to say "kenny murdered him" if it was that clear cut then the scene would not have worked, hence my post above...
I think you're a bit salty not because this argument has hit a nerve, but because it is an argument asking for an answer you cannot justify from a character you admire.
Admire? Nooo I dont think so..... hes a well written character thats adds lots to the game (or did untill S2) but I wouldn't want to be in RL situation with the guy.... hes a character..... I find his ways funny especially in S1, but no I dont admire the guy one bit..
Was smashing Larry's head in front of his daughter right? Yes or no.
Given the situation and circumstances YES... regrettable? Very! Like most things we have to do during a ZA
Was kenny hot headed in that situation? Yes .... as always that's kenny for ya.. but I dont remember a option to wait it oit a bit and see how things progressed, the scene was written that way therefore I had to act in the time span given...
Are you really angry that we on a video game forum site are discussing the morality of a scene in a video game?
If you think it was ok, t… morehen say that. You keep flipping back and forth between rash reasonable arguments to "What do you want me to say? I'm an evil fuck?"
No, I don't. I want your opinion of the action Kenny performed. Nothing more, nothing less. If it's too hard for you to do without typing out like twelve different arguments... fine.
But then again im not the one running around screaming some other guys decision was WRONG while having noooo medical experience what so ever in peace time never mind a ZA...... so no matter who chose what I think I know who is the deluded one around these here parts...
I think you're a bit salty not because this argument has hit a nerve, but because it is an argument asking for an answer you cannot justify from a character you admire.
I dont know what you want me to say?
Was smashing Larry's head in front of his daughter right? Yes or no.
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You are the one who pulled info for CPR.
It's not, IMO. One can argue that Kenny was only thinking of the safety of the group, making his intentions "good", but he didn't even try to help Larry and automatically assumed he was dead. As another person mentioned, it wasn't Kenny's decision to make, but Lily's.
Agreed and that's why I've liked her despite the whole Carley/Doug incident. She made the tough decisions, like rationing food, and had been the one who kept the group going while Kenny would be on the sidelines criticizing her for not tending to his family in particular. I wished that there was a way to have Lee actually sympathize with her like he did with Kenny. I'm guessing we weren't allowed that though because they wanted her to be painted as an evil person by having her send off being one where she's killed a group member while Kenny's send off is to have him attempt to heroically save somebody.
Maybe it's best to settle on an easier explanation: they did a less-than-stellar job at making this choice morally ambiguous, instead managing to make it a bit too black-and-white.
I think this situation could have been made much more ambiguous. Make it err more to the side of Larry actually being dead and raise the stakes. That breath he supposedly takes is seems like it's more there for the shock-value "oh look he's breathi-WHAT THE FUCK KENNY" than it is an attempt to keep his fate unknown. If anything, it de-values the decision of killing him, and almost makes that look like an invariably bad choice. I don't think that was meant to be the intention, given that the game prides itself on grey-morality conflicts, and that the choice is referred to as "Pragmatism" in the stats screen.
Kenny believed that he was saving the group, even though you can get Larry to breath again. Which makes Kenny a murderer.
I don't think that makes Kenny a murderer. His intention was to save the group, not to simply murder anyone and the 'breath' could have either been a breath and the final gasp of someone dieing which we'll never really know. Also I don't believe the word "murder" applies in a ZA. Murder is a crime as defined by law. There is no more law, there are no more crime's, it's all actions taken in order to survive.
They may kill each other for various reason's and we can argue about the good or bad or morality of those reason's.
For example: You and your family are starving, you'll die in a day or two unless you find food and supplies. You come across another family who has food.. You ask for some to feed your family.. They refuse. You can understand why they refuse but that mean's you and your family will die.. Will you simply let your family die, or kill the other family in order to save your's? Maybe that makes you a murderer in your or someone elses eyes, but your a savior to your family. You can argue the morality of that but in the end, the morality doesnt matter if your dead.
Yes it does, it wasn't his choice to make.
Sure it was, it was his life too on the line, he had a family to save and it was his choice to do what he had to, to protect himself, Kat and Duck. You may call it murder, I call it surviving!
So because his intentions were good that makes it okay for him to end Larry's life?
Yes!.. what if he didn't end Larry's life and Larry died and turned into a walker and bit someone? Should they just allow that to happen just so they remain moral? Wouldn't you end someones life to save your own or your families?
Lilly and Larry backstab Lee regardless if you side with them.
Let that sink in.
I don't know, haven't been in that situation. And besides, I'd already know that I'd have to kill him/her unlike Larry, who could have been saved.
Maybe he could have been saved.. I will admit that, but I wouldnt be willing to take that chance for 2 reasons.
1: Larry already tried to kill my Lee so as Lee I helped Kenny kill Larry
2: I wouldnt take the chance that Larry dies and turn's to bite me.
Stone cold killed that dude. Kenny is such a hypocrite, its the same situation with Duck.
I can play what if games too.
What if Larry would of recovered.
What if Larry would of been extremely grateful, that Lee saved his life, he made peace with him.
After Larry's past I wouldn't be willing to take the chance.
Well from what we can perceive he stopped breathing, that right there meant he died. She of course was ignorant about being alive or death and is and in as much denial as you are.
I'm gonna go watch some Baywatch(1989) so that I can also believe CPR has high chances of ever working.
You could have been the better person and tried to save him, revenge is pointless.
Your second reason makes sense, if you think that way. (No use fighting it.)
I didn't agree with him when he did (and I still don't) but I guess he did it for his family. They were still out there at the hands of the cannibals and if Larry turned they would've been screwed. Plus he didn't really like the guy nor his daughter and we all know how Kenny reacts when he is trapped or in danger, he acts before thinking.
your right Crazy, Kenny was a hypocrite in that case but there are a couple differences.
1: Duck was not bitten at that time
2:Duck never attempted to kill anyone like Larry did to Lee
3:Without nitro, the odd's of Larry surviving that heart attack were very slim and as big as he was, posed a far greater threat to everyone than a walker Duck would have.
I was the one that pulled the definition. I never stated that a low percentage of heart attack victims survive cardiopulmonary resuscitation, that was you.
It never would have gotten to that level if Kenny was cool headed like Lee was trying to be. There was never a single indication Larry was dead. He was passed out from a heart attack, and Kenny murdered him.
That's what we're talking about...
The morality of Larry and Lily backstabbing Lee? Oh yeah, we're talking about Kenny murdering an unconscious man in cold blood.
Stay on track.
There's nothing morally right about it. But he wanted to save his family so I don't blame him, But damn, heh that was pretty... Pretty fucked up.
Hey, i'm on Kennys side here and your side, I agreed with what Kenny did not only because I fucking hated the shit out of larry but because Kenny/Lee are my fav characters..
And Clementine ;}
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There isn't much morally right about it other than for the protection of Kenny himself and Lee and Clem and even Lilly in the meat locker. Kenny justified his act by saying he was going to turn and because he didn't have a pulse is a logical train of thought. I hated Larry for trying to kill Lee in front of Clem in the drug store so when I saw that he was going to be a Dick when we are trying to get out of the meat locker, well there is no love lost because if it had been Lee who passed out Larry would've probably done the same as Kenny did.
It's pretty messed up if you choose to help Kenny, you have to hold Lily back while Kenny grabs the saltlick I mean I understand that it was a dire situation but I felt like Kenny panicked and was too quick to kill him.
Dear god!
We have had months/years to look into this situation, we had threads on here quoting full on medical papers on heart attacks, still no one is 100% sure one way or another weather we could have saved larry with the equipment we had at hand being in the situation we were in.. and while playing the game on our first playthrough we had seconds to react. Not months with google!
It was a well crafted to scene to put us in a very tense and awkward position, if it was as simple as you make out the scene would not have worked... end of story...
Again even with all the time we have had researching this event we have failed to come up with a rock solid outcome either way, my view is still that if we had a medical specialist her now they would say chances are slim we would have been able to do a lot given our lack of medical tools and the situation we were in..
Was kenny to quick to pull the trigger? Yes... but please remember that this is the early days of the apocalypse, either way.. im still happy with my decision.....
I dont know what you want me to say? Really I dont... iMHO I did my job to the best of my ability at that time with the limited amount of knowledge/equipment and time I had in that situation...
What do you want me to say..? Im an evil fuck who should not be allowed to walk among society.... while you on the other hand are calm under fire and are able to carry out stage one medical procedures in the darkest of situations...
Happy?
Jesus... really some folks around here...
Duno how many times I have to say this, the choices ingame (S1 atleast) are purposely grey.... they are not black and white.. right or wrong... thats what makes it the game it is...
But then again im not the one running around screaming some other guys decision was WRONG while having noooo medical experience what so ever in peace time never mind a ZA...... so no matter who chose what I think I know who is the deluded one around these here parts...
Are you really angry that we on a video game forum site are discussing the morality of a scene in a video game?
If you think it was ok, then say that. You keep flipping back and forth between rash reasonable arguments to "What do you want me to say? I'm an evil fuck?"
No, I don't. I want your opinion of the action Kenny performed. Nothing more, nothing less. If it's too hard for you to do without typing out like twelve different arguments... fine.
I think you're a bit salty not because this argument has hit a nerve, but because it is an argument asking for an answer you cannot justify from a character you admire.
Was smashing Larry's head in front of his daughter right? Yes or no.
Actually, if you successfully press Larry's chest 4 times before Kenny saltlicks him, you can see he begins to take a breath... therefore he WAS alive.
This is perfect evidence for Larry being alive. From what we've been told, chest compressions don't excel the turning speed.
Well to be fair, a bunch of strangers came into the drug store, possibly endangering the whole group and Duck was covered in gore, looking like he could've been bit, without actual evidence that he wasn't bit.
lol it's like people don't know anything about anything in these forums. That is completely normal and happens all the time.
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People need take their game choices based on logic and not ignorance.
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Good one, you really shut me up.
I know. I'm simply saying Larry made the suggestion first, and that Kenny remembered that and held it as a grudge until the opportunity was right.
There isn't much else to explain him wanting to use such a vicious way to murder a man who was basically passed out.
Thats a pointed jab, not a discussion
This is the reason for my last post.... you dont have any grounds to say "kenny murdered him" if it was that clear cut then the scene would not have worked, hence my post above...
Admire? Nooo I dont think so..... hes a well written character thats adds lots to the game (or did untill S2) but I wouldn't want to be in RL situation with the guy.... hes a character..... I find his ways funny especially in S1, but no I dont admire the guy one bit..
Given the situation and circumstances YES... regrettable? Very! Like most things we have to do during a ZA
Was kenny hot headed in that situation? Yes .... as always that's kenny for ya.. but I dont remember a option to wait it oit a bit and see how things progressed, the scene was written that way therefore I had to act in the time span given...
That answer your question?