Would you forgive Bonnie?
After she showed she pretty much only cares about herself after she ran off. Would you forgive her if she were to return in Season 3 (for ones who still have her alive)?
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After she showed she pretty much only cares about herself after she ran off. Would you forgive her if she were to return in Season 3 (for ones who still have her alive)?
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No, no I would not. You're gonna take everything we have and run off in the middle of the night? Just keep walking.
It depends on the situation in which we would meet... I can't really blame her for not feeling safe around Kenny. And let's not pass the buck to just Bonnie, Mike was a part of this situation as well. Personally, I don't want to see them again.
Yep.
I already did, along with Mike and Arvo, as they only did what they thought was right.
Determinately she says "Just Leave her" for the people that got that remark probably won't forgive her, She can also argue with mike and apologise before she runs off... Personally It depends on the circumstances if i would forgive her.
I like Bonnie, so yes I would forgive her.
No, not again. I forgave her once, she promised she wouldn't do it again, and she does it again. I thought she cared, but she just leaves me to die. So no, I would not forgive her, I would kill her.
i´d forgive her but I would never trust her again.
By that I mean I wouldn´t shoot her but I wouldn´t want her back either.
Bingo.
I would, she just has a very serious conflict between survivalism and moralism. When shit hits the fan she is weak-willed and is spontaneous to become very selfish, putting her survival above anything else, but have clear feelings of guilty for doing the immoral things to reach that ("Have you ever regreted doing something? Even if it was something you knew you had to do?"). Her bad experiences with men probably helped her to be a selfish person too.
Ex: Being loyal to Carver to live under the comfort and safety of his camp. Stealing and leaving the group to not be around Kenny, who was considered a potential danger to her. Leaving Clementine after being shot to escape from Kenny, who would´ve probably killed her, Mike and Arvo for such betrayal and for getting Clem severely wounded.
I would just not rely on her that much for now, not expecting her to take high risks for me, but since she is so much sitting on the fence, i still believe there is a chance to get through her and make her really loyal to me somehow.
Send her to the wall.. oh wait, wrong game.
But seriously that was just stupid, not from her but from the writers, that move made no sense at all.
Nope, drowned her with Luke . And I do not regret it . I do not care what she was saying , how to care for Clem . She is a drug addict , and addicts can not be trusted ever. never!
yea I would
Made sense to me, Bonnie has a history of betrayal and making bad decisions, this is just another one to add to the list.
As a player I've forgiven all three of them.
As Clementine, to be so lenient would be unlikely so I won't be. She is not to be trusted, but I'm not out for blood.
Also, why is it that everyone feels the need to shit on Bonnie for being a drug addict? I can't remember her causing any problems that were directly related to her addiction, (Unless something happened in 400 days I forgot about) so why are you all so vehement about that?
Yes and Arvo too , but not Mike
No. She is a stoned junkie and an idiot. She needs to depend on smack or other people to survive. She was what Carver was talking about when he refers to the "weak". The bottom line is that she can not be trusted. I wouldn't trust her as the group's sex slave
Clem: Bonnie, Spiderman says everybody gets one.
Spiderman: Bingo. Swings away
Nope, fooled me twice. Now, she ain't gonna bullshit a bullshitter
I love that line
This was plain stupid, running away with a guy who barely speaks English and just tried to rob and kill you, even worse allowing him to have a gun and shoot Clem.
I hope that meth head gets her bowels torn out if she comes back
nope she had her chance and she screwed up again and tbh they was my least favorite 400 days character anyway so i don't really care if something happens to her
I've always seen Bonnie as a very gullible, forgiving, and naive character, which explains why she was so nice to Arvo in the first place. With Carver, she constantly tries to neglect all the wrongs he has done, tries to see the good in him, and finds it better to fix something than start over (she literally says something like that to Clem). It wasn't until after Kenny got the shit beat out of him that she FINALLY saw Carver for who he truly was, a monster. The point is that she basically forgave Carver for everything he had ever done in the past until it finally boiled over for her. She did the exact same thing with Arvo, and Mike seems to be the same way, forgiving, gullible, and naive. She forgave Arvo and actually felt sympathy for him after losing his group, she saw Arvo as a victim and failed to see, like Carver, the person he truly was.
"No more, please! No more, please! CLEM PLEASE! (screams)"-Bonnie, if she's lucky.
Sticking with Carver had its perks - food, security a shelter and to be gullible you have to have some convincing person to fallow, Carver was that, Arvo could barely speak English. The guy had nothing to offer and siding with him is stupid not just naive. It was established in A house divided that Bonnie is pretty smart and manipulative here the writers just wanted to introduce some artificial drama and changed her and Mikes character to a stupid person. Same as they did with Carver - ep2 cunning but somewhat fair leader who clearly states he doesn't want to kill anyone else but does it because Kenny refuses to surrender and kills his men and then comes ep3 and hes a pure sociopath who enjoys torturing and killing people just to fit in with some new ideas of how the plot should advance.
It felt like artificial drama to me as well, I agree.
I can easily buy them wanting to get away from Kenny. However, I can't buy that Arvo manipul8ted them into leaving. Arvo was a traumatized kid who could barely form coherent sentences, even if he was the one who suggested leaving I doubt Mike or Bonnie needed much convincing. They weren't stupid or naive, but they were scared and selfish. Before Arvo was even introduced in the game it was implied Bonnie and Mike thought Kenny was dangerous. Seeing him beat on Arvo when he really didn't need to (While Kenny not trusting him makes sense, the way he went about it was ridiculous.) was only the icing on the shit cake.
Leaving and even taking the truck can be seen as done out of desperation, taking all the supplies was out of greed. But that's the contrived part to me. Bonnie and Mike have proven themselves to be caring enough to defend Arvo, leaving Clementine with nothing makes no sense for either of them when they've bonded with her in the past episode. Maybe Bonnie would have been in the state of mind to steal since she was so broken up about Luke and can determinantly blame it on Clem. But that's not being gullible, that's being...selfish. If Mike cared for Arvo, he wouldn't stop caring for Clementine.
But if they hadn't tried to steal every single thing, would Clementine have a reason to confront them at all? The answer is no. Let's not forget though, sacrificing character development for the sake of drama apparently makes for good writing now, according to Telltale.
As for the Bonnie and Carver thing, I doubt that Bonnie was honestly fooled by him and believed Carver was a good man. She was trying to justify (Rather weakly at that) what Carver was doing so she wouldn't have to re-examine the person she's being ruled under, because recognizing he is dangerous means leaving him, which in turn means leaving a safe place with food and protection. She sees what he has done, knows that it is horrible, but turns the other way because it is beneficial for her to do so. That doesn't strike me as naive...Just a good person who has to do bad things, or tolerate them if she wants to survive, which is what she said herself.
No!
I would not forgive Bonnie for her part in taking the supplies and trying to abandon us.
Bonnie drowned in my play through anyway's so it really doesn't matter. It just saved a bullet!
Yep, and Arvo and Mike. So pretty much what dojo said.
If only there was a Witching Well in the game...
Double standard. People love Eddie because he smokes weed and is therefore a hilarious stoner. And apparently Arvo and his sister MUST be drug addicts because they have medicine, even though said medicine is clearly there for practical purposes rather than recreational.
With that kinda mindset you'd probably get killed by a 'sex slave'.
Thank you. Bonnie may've done some disappointing stuff, but it's just plain cruel to act like she's a bad person because she struggled with an addiction. We don't know her back story, how she got hooked or why she needed to turn to that stuff. It's just not fair to criticize her for that.
I mean, Christ, if there's one thing I admire about her, it's about managing to overcome an addiction AND survive over two years in the apocalypse. There are people who die trying to do one or the other, but she managed to do both and live... uh, determinantly.
Depends on how they'd be reintroduced, honestly?
If they did something to help me, then yeah, I'd probably forgive them. If they're reintroduced doing something suspicious, or something that harms me, then I doubt I'd be a lot less likely.
In general I'd probably just be very skeptical, but ultimately open to forgiving them. Maybe it's naive of me, but I'd rather make the attempt to have more friends than enemies.
If I meet Bonnie again...
Depends on the circumstances on how we meet her again.
Carver was only doing what he thought was right, as was season one's stranger. Does that mean you forgive them too?
Again, it's a stupid double-standard as people love Eddie for being a "stoner bro".
Hell, I actually empathize with her for that. In a situation as horrible as the collapse, at least the method she chose to deal with the stress hurt herself rather than others. Besides, I never got the sense that she was seducing Leland - the man was growing too fond of a vulnerable girl who was in his care, and his jealous wife decided to take her frustration out on Bonnie by trying to murder her.
If she was genuinely sorry, maybe... but she would have to take back everything she said about Clem causing Luke's death