Why did Telltale remove the [Shoot ****] option?

The animation exists. So why did Telltalle choose to remove it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q45tDrgmSow

Could they have plans for Mike in season 3? I hope not...Mike's pretty much become Vernon 2.0 by now. (i.e. the majority of players will kill him on sight).

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  • Because I would even shoot Clementine if she shot Mike. (Opinion)

    My guess is they wanted to demonize Mike & Bonnie for siding with Arvo. If Clementine shoots Mike, then that gives Arvo every reason to shoot her, don't you think?

    Also, funny how Clementine completely forgets about the Russian pointing a gun at her after shooting Mike.

  • They wanted to make Clem shooting Kenny feel more special.

  • edited September 2014

    I think it's because while we would shoot Mike, I don't think it's within Clementine's character to do it, just like if you wanted to leave the baby.

  • When the game first came out on PS3, this was the original option. I actually have no idea and I hope they don't have any plans for Mike and his character seems to has run its course. Luke was originally supposed to be determinant did you know? There was a scene cut where Clem could save him from drowning. I wish Luke would have lived and not Mike haha.

  • It's entirely possible Telltale has something in the works for Mike in Season 3. And I think I'd be on board with it. To be honest, I don't really understand most of the hatred directed towards him. He was a good guy and a character with tons of potential. I'm looking forward to maybe seeing him again.

  • I think they just decided it's a bit out of character for Clem to shoot unarmed man who doesn't really want to hurt her.

  • Mike confirmed for Season 3. Make the gif.

  • I actually got this option and I took it the first time I played. Sort of disappointed they patched it...

  • edited September 2014

    Here ya go...

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    Mike confirmed for Season 3. Make the gif.

  • It's a shame they removed it. I was waiting for an option to shoot throughout that scene.

  • No. Oh you wanna know why? Nobody wants mike in season 3.

    Mike confirmed for Season 3. Make the gif.

  • Thanks.

    Doctor_Stef posted: »

    Here ya go...

  • Actually I know a couple people, so you better know you're facts before you say something like that!

    Kenny4ever posted: »

    No. Oh you wanna know why? Nobody wants mike in season 3.

  • They either removed it because they have plans for him or because they thought it was out of character for Clem. Shooting Mike would have given Arvo reason to shoot Clem as well.

    Also, if you choose the scream for help option, Arvo would shoot Clem before the choice to shoot Mike would come up, so I wonder if you chose that you wouldn't have been able to shoot Mike?

  • edited September 2014

    Mike: Hey Clem, listen uh no hard feelings for you getting shot and leaving you for dead, right?

    Clem: Nope, none at all...where's Arvo?

    Mike: Uuuuh, over there.

    Clem: (cocks shotgun) thanks =_=

    It's entirely possible Telltale has something in the works for Mike in Season 3. And I think I'd be on board with it. To be honest, I don't

  • They probably have plans for Mike's return. And I wouldn't exactly count on him being Vernon 2.0 - most of the hatred seems to be thrown onto Arvo and the determinant Bonnie, while Mike himself is ambivalently treated as a decent guy who made a really bad mistake.

    And I think they probably didn't want Clementine to come across as a murderer. Putting down Kenny immediately after he murdered someone and encouraged her to kill him is not the same thing as shooting someone who was abandoning her.

  • I think they originally wanted to give us the choice of shooting Mike, because they didn't expect people to like Mike as much as we did, but after episode 4 they saw how much people loved Mike and Bonnie, and were saying they'd rather go with them than Luke or Kenny, so they thought it'd be interesting to see how many people would actually ask to go with them if given the option. And/or like mentioned earlier in this thread, they wanted the option of shooting Kenny to be special, because honestly having Clem have the option of shooting more than one person in an episode is a bit much for me.

  • You know, I think my version might still have the shoot option. When my mom was playing, I think there came up the option to fire at Mike, although my mom's really slow and didn't hit the button on time so I don't know for sure.

  • So we can kill him later, obviously.

    We need to savor the bloodlust...let it ripen...let it blossom like a beautiful flower.

    A murderflower.

  • They probably decided to bring him back in Season 3, or want to continue his story in some way.

  • Because Mike is awesome!

  • When I saw on youtube you could shoot mike I tried so hard to get the option to,but then I figured out it was patched and it made me mad.I thought about it a little bit and figured it was out of clementines character.

  • Most likely because they plan on using him in Season 3, which means they plan on using Arvo in Season 3. I don't want them to come back, but it seems likely that they will considering how it was taken out.

  • edited February 2015

    I'm guessing Telltale wanted the whole 'Clementine getting shot by Arvo' thing to be more of a shock. If Clementine shot Mike, it would make Arvo shooting Clementine seem more justified. I'm guessing they didn't want people to think that it was a justified thing that Arvo did. Or, possibly, they just didn't want Clementine to shoot people for stealing. Probably why they decided against abandoning a baby, too. Maybe in Season 3 Clementine will be able to be a lot harsher.

  • *YOU dont wan't him in season 3

    fixed :3

    Kenny4ever posted: »

    No. Oh you wanna know why? Nobody wants mike in season 3.

  • edited February 2015

    Yes, but we're suppose to shape Clementine's character to a certain degree. And it didn't seem too far fetched for her to defend herself in that situation, shooting Mike and then wounding Arvo or something would've been the most sensible thing to do at the time. How come we're allowed to pull out our gun but not actually use lethal force to stop a group from stealing and leaving us stranded in a frozen wasteland? But then Clementine can look at Carver getting his face twisted with a blank expression and not get called out for character breaking?

    I dunno, I think if TellTale were able to allow Clementine to act hostile to a naïve innocent girl, blackmail a pregnant lady, and insult a ruthless dictator, I don't think it's too far fetched to allow her the option to blow away a couple of scumbags. I think it's because some people are so scared to watch Clementine make decisions on her own without the aid of Kenny or Lee or Luke or whoever. I want to see Clementine take control of situations and not just pass them off to others.

    Clementine: "Kenny! Jane! Quick, we're being robbed!"

    Me: "SHOOT THEM FOR FUCKS SAKE! YOU HAVE A GUN!"

    Green613 posted: »

    I think it's because while we would shoot Mike, I don't think it's within Clementine's character to do it, just like if you wanted to leave the baby.

  • I assume they have more in store for him in Season 3, that's why they removed the option. I actually liked Mike and enjoyed his character, but I would have choose the {Shoot Mike} option without a question.

  • edited February 2015

    Goddamit! Double post bullshit.

    Yes, but we're suppose to shape Clementine's character to a certain degree. And it didn't seem too far fetched for her to defend herself in

  • I'm starting to believe it has less to do with keeping Mike alive for season 3 possibilities, and more with the uncomfortable fact an awful lot of black people seem to die in TWD, both in the comic books AND the television series. After Lee, Alvin, Rebecca, and that unnamed policeman in Vince's story from 400 DAYS bit the dust, I think Telltale realized things were going a little too far.

  • Exactly my point, man.

    Yes, but we're suppose to shape Clementine's character to a certain degree. And it didn't seem too far fetched for her to defend herself in

  • Agreed can we have someone interesting plz

    Kenny4ever posted: »

    No. Oh you wanna know why? Nobody wants mike in season 3.

  • Pretty shitty last second move imo. They should have had it planned out and the Can I go with you option was unforgivable. Its not a heavy loss and it would have been a good choice to have for a bad episode. I'm sick of people saying it would be out of her character to shoot a guy who was a douche bag from his debut to departure. I would've done it in a split second no hesitation

  • I'm pretty sure race has nothing to do with it, that sounds incredibly stupid, Imo. A lot of white people die as well, in fact I'd guess most of them were white.

    I'm starting to believe it has less to do with keeping Mike alive for season 3 possibilities, and more with the uncomfortable fact an awful

  • How was Mike a douchebag from his debut?

    Clemenem posted: »

    Pretty shitty last second move imo. They should have had it planned out and the Can I go with you option was unforgivable. Its not a heavy

  • He underestimated her at Howe's, gave Arvo the rifle that shot Clem which almost got her killed, left a baby and an 11 year old with nothing. I know you're a Mike fan and won't listen but he's no hero

    dojo32161 posted: »

    How was Mike a douchebag from his debut?

  • I'm pretty sure race has nothing to do with it, that sounds incredibly stupid, Imo. A lot of white people die as well, in fact I'd guess most of them were white.

    Tyreese thinks you're hilarious.
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    dojo32161 posted: »

    I'm pretty sure race has nothing to do with it, that sounds incredibly stupid, Imo. A lot of white people die as well, in fact I'd guess most of them were white.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator
    edited February 2015

    Underestimated her? That's more concern for her safety.

    No one gave Arvo the gun, it was sitting on the seat of the truck. Where they found a rifle when we had none is the real question.

    I'll give you leaving the group with nothing, though the baby couldn't have any of it anyway.

    And I'm not a huge fan of Mike, more for Arvo, I just don't see what they did as wrong, he's definitely not a hero, neither is any of our group or anyone else.

    Clemenem posted: »

    He underestimated her at Howe's, gave Arvo the rifle that shot Clem which almost got her killed, left a baby and an 11 year old with nothing. I know you're a Mike fan and won't listen but he's no hero

  • I doubt it was any real concern seeing as how he was the same person that tried to make her go in a room with a walker inside and regardless Arvo nearly got the group killed including himself and he didn't see anything wrong with him holding a rifle

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Underestimated her? That's more concern for her safety. No one gave Arvo the gun, it was sitting on the seat of the truck. Where they fou

  • No it really is stupid, so far the only characters that have survived are two black kids.

    I'm pretty sure race has nothing to do with it, that sounds incredibly stupid, Imo. A lot of white people die as well, in fact I'd guess most of them were white. Tyreese thinks you're hilarious.

  • Tyreese died because his actor, Chad Coleman, got a big role on a different TV Show. Had nothing to do with race.

    I'm pretty sure race has nothing to do with it, that sounds incredibly stupid, Imo. A lot of white people die as well, in fact I'd guess most of them were white. Tyreese thinks you're hilarious.

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