We don't know yet since episode 6 has only been out for less then a day now so it's possible Ironrath does not go up in flames plus at the e… morend were it goes over all your choices throught the series it says that (from the play through I watched on YouTube) it says "in defense of house forrester you and 40% fought with instinct and nobility, so it may be possible for a different outcome but only time will tell
I think he ended with Gwyn because in my first run I did call the plan off. And I wanted to be at least a little nice to them.
Elissa start… moreet the fight - so as Asher did kill Gryff: a guard stabed Asher and the guard did get attacked by Gwyn.
At the end: Duncan saved Asher. Did get him at the back (more like ass) of a horse and my Asher ended then with Gwyn and Talia.
I think its Mira who gets the worst ending of all - becoming determinant - and to me this was a detrimental move in the finale.
But what's done is done... Mira is either dead or becomes Morgryn's slave for the rest of her life (since she's determinant we won't get to play as her in S2 so her story is over).
I'd say that her story is more likely over because she doesn't appear anymore on the starting screen, but it could just mean that she won't be a POW in season 2. She doesn't need to necessarily stay Morgryn's slave forever, she could get the right chance to run away, to kill him, who knows...
I think its Mira who gets the worst ending of all - becoming determinant - and to me this was a detrimental move in the finale.
But what'… mores done is done... Mira is either dead or becomes Morgryn's slave for the rest of her life (since she's determinant we won't get to play as her in S2 so her story is over).
All up to the imagination really at this point, with no concrete resolution if she chooses to marry Morgryn, I suppose its possible her fate can be left open-ended or its Telltale's way of saying that she's done...
I mean, why would there be this whole additional determinant plot about Mira escaping Morgryn in Season 2 if she can just as easily die in Season 1. Its upsetting how her storyline ends - it feels worse that despite having the option to live we have no idea what actually ends up happening to Mira - she just becomes completely silent and obediently acts as Morgryn's personal puppet.
I suppose she was never going to have a happy ending, but its more saddening that her determinant status pretty much ends her whether she lives or dies...
I'd say that her story is more likely over because she doesn't appear anymore on the starting screen, but it could just mean that she won't… more be a POW in season 2. She doesn't need to necessarily stay Morgryn's slave forever, she could get the right chance to run away, to kill him, who knows...
Well, to be fair, it could be all an act. Mira is basically in the same position as Sansa was (more or less) only that Morgryn is way more wholesome than Ramsay and Mira (at least mine) way more cunning than Sansa, there's room for things to happen, if TT wants to take that path.
Ultimately, I think that Mira's collapse is all a result of the perilous schemes of King's Landing. She played the game, she dealt her hand and she lost. When you lose the game, you either die or get annihiliated, and both can happen to Mira.
All up to the imagination really at this point, with no concrete resolution if she chooses to marry Morgryn, I suppose its possible her fate… more can be left open-ended or its Telltale's way of saying that she's done...
I mean, why would there be this whole additional determinant plot about Mira escaping Morgryn in Season 2 if she can just as easily die in Season 1. Its upsetting how her storyline ends - it feels worse that despite having the option to live we have no idea what actually ends up happening to Mira - she just becomes completely silent and obediently acts as Morgryn's personal puppet.
I suppose she was never going to have a happy ending, but its more saddening that her determinant status pretty much ends her whether she lives or dies...
Its a nice afterthought - hope that in a playthrough where Mira survives that she somehow manages to escape/kill Morgryn.
But Morgryn knows how cunning Mira is and therefore he expects her to try something which means he would be on his guard and have checks to keep Mira in place. But surely Mira knows that he knows that she would grasp at the first opportunity to free herself and to ward off such suspicion starts acting in complete servitude to him. But then what if Morgryn knows that she's only acting so passive so as to lower his own guard, since their both pretty cunning.
I'd have really liked a sub-plot where the two try to mentally outmaneuver each other until Mira finally finds a way to escape him... too bad she won't be a POV in Season 2 so I really do wonder where her determinant story of survival goes after the end of Season 1...
Well, to be fair, it could be all an act. Mira is basically in the same position as Sansa was (more or less) only that Morgryn is way more w… moreholesome than Ramsay and Mira (at least mine) way more cunning than Sansa, there's room for things to happen, if TT wants to take that path.
Ultimately, I think that Mira's collapse is all a result of the perilous schemes of King's Landing. She played the game, she dealt her hand and she lost. When you lose the game, you either die or get annihiliated, and both can happen to Mira.
I wonder that too, as I said, if TT wants to make something out of this, it wouldn't be bad, although it surely won't play any major part in Season 2, and that's genuinely sad.
Its a nice afterthought - hope that in a playthrough where Mira survives that she somehow manages to escape/kill Morgryn.
But Morgryn kno… morews how cunning Mira is and therefore he expects her to try something which means he would be on his guard and have checks to keep Mira in place. But surely Mira knows that he knows that she would grasp at the first opportunity to free herself and to ward off such suspicion starts acting in complete servitude to him. But then what if Morgryn knows that she's only acting so passive so as to lower his own guard, since their both pretty cunning.
I'd have really liked a sub-plot where the two try to mentally outmaneuver each other until Mira finally finds a way to escape him... too bad she won't be a POV in Season 2 so I really do wonder where her determinant story of survival goes after the end of Season 1...
Killing Ludd is probably better than killing Gryff - since he was the Lord of Highpoint, and with Rodrik/Asher still alive, House Forrester would technically be the last House standing under Ramsay's terms.
But did anyone else feel kind of.... with either the ambush or poison? Its reminiscent of the Red and Purple Weddings. The Forresters suffered greatly from both events (Red Wedding killed off Stark control of the North which was bad news for the Forresters; Purple Wedding killed off Mira's alliance with Tyrion) and now they do something similar against the Whitehills - its almost like becoming what you hate, what goes against Northern honor - all for the sake of family.
Its a little morally grey, to some extent the Whitehills were victimized by the Forresters, who essentially betrayed them... even the Forresters aren't the good guys, of course, there are no real 'good guys' in GoT (except Eddard Stark)...
I feel sad with how Asher and Gwyn can never be together.
I wonder that too, as I said, if TT wants to make something out of this, it wouldn't be bad, although it surely won't play any major part in Season 2, and that's genuinely sad.
Killing Ludd is probably better than killing Gryff - since he was the Lord of Highpoint, and with Rodrik/Asher still alive, House Forrester … morewould technically be the last House standing under Ramsay's terms.
But did anyone else feel kind of.... with either the ambush or poison? Its reminiscent of the Red and Purple Weddings. The Forresters suffered greatly from both events (Red Wedding killed off Stark control of the North which was bad news for the Forresters; Purple Wedding killed off Mira's alliance with Tyrion) and now they do something similar against the Whitehills - its almost like becoming what you hate, what goes against Northern honor - all for the sake of family.
Its a little morally grey, to some extent the Whitehills were victimized by the Forresters, who essentially betrayed them... even the Forresters aren't the good guys, of course, there are no real 'good guys' in GoT (except Eddard Stark)...
I feel sad with how Asher and Gwyn can never be together.
Obviously I would have been happy with Ironrath surviving and it's population not being massacred but I wasn't furious at the ending because it was so Game Of Thrones, I can only rate it on the fact that it was so Game Of Thrones, just so.......... Game Of Thrones.
Disappointed that they took most their time working on the Asher/Rodrik part (though it makes sense why they did) because Mira and Gareds story lines were the most important (although that's obviously an opinion).
But, I loved the Asher play through. And I like how different Ludd is in each of them.
Disappointed that they took most their time working on the Asher/Rodrik part (though it makes sense why they did) because Mira and Gareds st… moreory lines were the most important (although that's obviously an opinion).
But, I loved the Asher play through. And I like how different Ludd is in each of them.
Obviously I would have been happy with Ironrath surviving and it's population not being massacred but I wasn't furious at the ending because… more it was so Game Of Thrones, I can only rate it on the fact that it was so Game Of Thrones, just so.......... Game Of Thrones.
Its a nice afterthought - hope that in a playthrough where Mira survives that she somehow manages to escape/kill Morgryn.
But Morgryn kno… morews how cunning Mira is and therefore he expects her to try something which means he would be on his guard and have checks to keep Mira in place. But surely Mira knows that he knows that she would grasp at the first opportunity to free herself and to ward off such suspicion starts acting in complete servitude to him. But then what if Morgryn knows that she's only acting so passive so as to lower his own guard, since their both pretty cunning.
I'd have really liked a sub-plot where the two try to mentally outmaneuver each other until Mira finally finds a way to escape him... too bad she won't be a POV in Season 2 so I really do wonder where her determinant story of survival goes after the end of Season 1...
When Asher was completely surrounded and was just going to be killed...
I made him say "Oh not on my good side..."
Oh, my Asher. Never stop being yourself.
I think I got the worst ending
ASHER
Lady Forester sacrificed herself so that the plan could go "through"
Beshka saved Ryon and the… morey ran off to who knows where
The Whitehills broke through Ironwrath
Asher is barely clinging to life off somewhere
MIRA
I told Lady Margery about sneaking in
I refused Morgryn's "proposal".
Mira got her head fucking chopped off
GARED
I gave Cotter the poison and he died
I marched off (to the desolate ruins) to Ironwrath
33% of players fucking lost the Game of Thrones...
How about when killing Gryff, if you killed Gryff instead of Ludd?
My Asher said something like "Out of words, Gryff? Well that's new". Asher's lines are so priceless.
Killing Ludd is probably better than killing Gryff - since he was the Lord of Highpoint, and with Rodrik/Asher still alive, House Forrester … morewould technically be the last House standing under Ramsay's terms.
But did anyone else feel kind of.... with either the ambush or poison? Its reminiscent of the Red and Purple Weddings. The Forresters suffered greatly from both events (Red Wedding killed off Stark control of the North which was bad news for the Forresters; Purple Wedding killed off Mira's alliance with Tyrion) and now they do something similar against the Whitehills - its almost like becoming what you hate, what goes against Northern honor - all for the sake of family.
Its a little morally grey, to some extent the Whitehills were victimized by the Forresters, who essentially betrayed them... even the Forresters aren't the good guys, of course, there are no real 'good guys' in GoT (except Eddard Stark)...
I feel sad with how Asher and Gwyn can never be together.
If anyone has a screenshot of the end screen - where there is a list of a few choices through the whole game and what strategy (percent and kind) you got. (Sadly I didn't take a picture of it.) I just want to know - what choices get to what strategy.
My ending screen said "21.9% Fought with Fierce Passion" - does that mean I did good?
Beshka saved Ryon, I killed Gryff, Rodrick survived with Talia and Duncan (had to watch my fiance die/get raped which really sucked), Gared gave Cotter the poison and marched to Ironwrath, and Mira told the truth and denied becoming a slave to Morgryn.
Can't find any vid on youtube that shows what happens when you poison Ludd, that'd be pretty nice to watch. Does it differ much from the ambush like gwyn still stabs asher and loads of your men die?
I think its Mira who gets the worst ending of all - becoming determinant - and to me this was a detrimental move in the finale.
But what'… mores done is done... Mira is either dead or becomes Morgryn's slave for the rest of her life (since she's determinant we won't get to play as her in S2 so her story is over).
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Mine with Rodrik said something like acted with pure aggression.
I ended up with Duncan on two complety different saves which was a piss take the second time as I don't really like him.
I think its Mira who gets the worst ending of all - becoming determinant - and to me this was a detrimental move in the finale.
But what's done is done... Mira is either dead or becomes Morgryn's slave for the rest of her life (since she's determinant we won't get to play as her in S2 so her story is over).
I'd say that her story is more likely over because she doesn't appear anymore on the starting screen, but it could just mean that she won't be a POW in season 2. She doesn't need to necessarily stay Morgryn's slave forever, she could get the right chance to run away, to kill him, who knows...
All up to the imagination really at this point, with no concrete resolution if she chooses to marry Morgryn, I suppose its possible her fate can be left open-ended or its Telltale's way of saying that she's done...
I mean, why would there be this whole additional determinant plot about Mira escaping Morgryn in Season 2 if she can just as easily die in Season 1. Its upsetting how her storyline ends - it feels worse that despite having the option to live we have no idea what actually ends up happening to Mira - she just becomes completely silent and obediently acts as Morgryn's personal puppet.
I suppose she was never going to have a happy ending, but its more saddening that her determinant status pretty much ends her whether she lives or dies...
Well, to be fair, it could be all an act. Mira is basically in the same position as Sansa was (more or less) only that Morgryn is way more wholesome than Ramsay and Mira (at least mine) way more cunning than Sansa, there's room for things to happen, if TT wants to take that path.
Ultimately, I think that Mira's collapse is all a result of the perilous schemes of King's Landing. She played the game, she dealt her hand and she lost. When you lose the game, you either die or get annihiliated, and both can happen to Mira.
Wait wait wait so your telling me I waited 3 months to see Ironrath in flames ?????? WTF
But seriously is their a way to actually win ????
Nope, there's not, the most you get is to either kill Gryff or Ludd.
Its a nice afterthought - hope that in a playthrough where Mira survives that she somehow manages to escape/kill Morgryn.
But Morgryn knows how cunning Mira is and therefore he expects her to try something which means he would be on his guard and have checks to keep Mira in place. But surely Mira knows that he knows that she would grasp at the first opportunity to free herself and to ward off such suspicion starts acting in complete servitude to him. But then what if Morgryn knows that she's only acting so passive so as to lower his own guard, since their both pretty cunning.
I'd have really liked a sub-plot where the two try to mentally outmaneuver each other until Mira finally finds a way to escape him... too bad she won't be a POV in Season 2 so I really do wonder where her determinant story of survival goes after the end of Season 1...
I wonder that too, as I said, if TT wants to make something out of this, it wouldn't be bad, although it surely won't play any major part in Season 2, and that's genuinely sad.
it leads to leaving with talia duncan/royland (determinant) and Gwyn
Killing Ludd is probably better than killing Gryff - since he was the Lord of Highpoint, and with Rodrik/Asher still alive, House Forrester would technically be the last House standing under Ramsay's terms.
But did anyone else feel kind of.... with either the ambush or poison? Its reminiscent of the Red and Purple Weddings. The Forresters suffered greatly from both events (Red Wedding killed off Stark control of the North which was bad news for the Forresters; Purple Wedding killed off Mira's alliance with Tyrion) and now they do something similar against the Whitehills - its almost like becoming what you hate, what goes against Northern honor - all for the sake of family.
Its a little morally grey, to some extent the Whitehills were victimized by the Forresters, who essentially betrayed them... even the Forresters aren't the good guys, of course, there are no real 'good guys' in GoT (except Eddard Stark)...
I feel sad with how Asher and Gwyn can never be together.
Oh my, I mean the reaction you'll get but it's done know you get attacked by one of those mindless warriors.
If the surviving Forresters decide to retake Ironrath in Season 2 wouldn't they run into Mira and Morgryn.
Or can they.
Obviously I would have been happy with Ironrath surviving and it's population not being massacred but I wasn't furious at the ending because it was so Game Of Thrones, I can only rate it on the fact that it was so Game Of Thrones, just so.......... Game Of Thrones.
When Asher was completely surrounded and was just going to be killed...
I made him say "Oh not on my good side..."
Oh, my Asher. Never stop being yourself.
Disappointed that they took most their time working on the Asher/Rodrik part (though it makes sense why they did) because Mira and Gareds story lines were the most important (although that's obviously an opinion).
But, I loved the Asher play through. And I like how different Ludd is in each of them.
Indeed, that might just happen.
I agree with you 100%!
At least I left this episode with a bunch of new theories.
Yeah, it felt good till it lasted.
No, there actually ok and reasonable about it.
I ended with Royland and Talia.
The Sentinel: So Duncan in my play
I don't think her story is over. But I think the remaining Forresters will hear what happened to Mira and want to rescue her. She will not be a PoV.
Meh I expected better, not entirely bad but pretty meh...
I think I got the worst ending
ASHER
Lady Forester sacrificed herself so that the plan could go "through"
Beshka saved Ryon and they ran off to who knows where
The Whitehills broke through Ironwrath
Asher is barely clinging to life off somewhere
MIRA
I told Lady Margery about sneaking in
I refused Morgryn's "proposal".
Mira got her head fucking chopped off
GARED
I gave Cotter the poison and he died
I marched off (to the desolate ruins) to Ironwrath
33% of players fucking lost the Game of Thrones...
I almost pressed Iron from Ice... and I'm glad I didn't lol
Nice we got the same exact choices. Eff the game of thrones let me be a lannister, I can do whatever I want.
How about when killing Gryff, if you killed Gryff instead of Ludd?
My Asher said something like "Out of words, Gryff? Well that's new". Asher's lines are so priceless.
I knew I picked the right brother to survive...
To be honest I enjoyed it, it can end in several ways:
Mira living but Tom taking her place in the beheading or Mira being beheaded.
Gared defending the North Grove or leaving it.
Rodrik/Asher living with Talia, determinantly Royland/Duncan and for Asher, determinantly Gwyn.
There were allot of determinants this episode, I loved how choices mattered allot this time, TellTaleGames' stepping up their game.
Actually they can if you call off the plan. At the end Asher is found by Talia and Gwyn.
If anyone has a screenshot of the end screen - where there is a list of a few choices through the whole game and what strategy (percent and kind) you got. (Sadly I didn't take a picture of it.) I just want to know - what choices get to what strategy.
Gwyn can vary I think. I went back on my word with her so she's not about at the end of my play-through.
My ending screen said "21.9% Fought with Fierce Passion" - does that mean I did good?
Beshka saved Ryon, I killed Gryff, Rodrick survived with Talia and Duncan (had to watch my fiance die/get raped which really sucked), Gared gave Cotter the poison and marched to Ironwrath, and Mira told the truth and denied becoming a slave to Morgryn.
Can't find any vid on youtube that shows what happens when you poison Ludd, that'd be pretty nice to watch. Does it differ much from the ambush like gwyn still stabs asher and loads of your men die?
wait. I can kill Ludd ? I thought only Gryff. Do I need to chose poison ? Or something else?
Not necessarily. Even though we probably won't play as her again, she could still be freed or escape while not playing as her.
If you want to kill Ludd, go with poison. Even though I think it's more satisfying to stab Gryff, it's strategically smarter to kill Ludd