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  • IGN are crying in the corner that their favourite characters died.

    Wolfenus54 posted: »

    So um... I just wanted to post it somewhere so I can get out all my rage from my soul by hearing this IGN review enter link description

  • Yeah... It's probably a re-used model of Ethan... just in female form ;)

    ABigBadWolf posted: »

    Elsera looks like Ethan with a wig.

  • I very much enjoyed it despite how dreadful I played "The game of Thrones" I would give it an 8.5/10. I can't wait to go back and check out Rodrick's path and maybe save Mira even if I have to marry that twat

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    Talia is not determinant. I'm thinking we might play her.

  • Also, RIP Dunc Man, he became the real mvp.

    Rest in Peace Dunkin Donuts, Rest in Peace.

  • Idk I think Gareds is the second saddest one, Mira of course topping the list.

    Although we don't have a clear indication of what the north grove is yet, the story presented it in a way that didn't seem promising. It didn't even seem like Gregor knew what was going on, so to stay there would not have helped my forrester family. So he somewhat wasted his time, got numerous friends killed, all to find out Gregor has 2 magical bastard children. Is that worth all that Gared went through? Worth Cotter and Finns lives?

    Not for me. I feel so bad for Gared, I wish he could pull a Life is Strange and stay with Senpai at the Wall.

    SerMarve posted: »

    Ugh, I know right? This episode broke me, especially the battle at Ironrath. ;-; Also, poor Mira... Seems like Gared got the happiest ending after all the shit he went through.

  • Yeah if they stick with the Forresters I think Asher/Rodriks storylines will be identical, I feel bad that Telltale put so much effort into two different story's and get so much hate .

    Enzayne posted: »

    Calling Ryon and Sylvi as playable characters next season, assuming they don't stick with Gared as the north-POV. We have no tie to King'

  • (Claps hands)

    There it is. Exactly what's wrong... Although I killed Damian.. I knew it wouldn't matter. I played Mira this last episode as a dead women. I took the blame, I said screw you to Morgryn... Why? Because from the beggining the plot had doomed her.

    I always had a feeling that she would die at the end of this season, but making her determinant was something that rubbed me the wrong way. Now I know her story will either have no effect or a very small one at best

    butthead posted: »

    I'm sorry Telltale, but I'm not interested in a Season 2. Wouldn't spend money on this series again. It really felt they focused on the wron

  • Does anybody know what happens if you don't go along with the plan?

  • I would rather see her either dead, like Ethan, or alive, like Gared. I hate this determinant shit.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    (Claps hands) There it is. Exactly what's wrong... Although I killed Damian.. I knew it wouldn't matter. I played Mira this last episode

  • Yes! Even though I'm sweating balls right now because it was so bloody intense. xD

    This episode gave me all the feels. I don't even know how many times I was scared, sad, angry, relieved... In the end I was disappointed, not in the episode, but myself, like I said. I made aaaaall the wrong choices and I hate myself for it. ;_; At least my precious babies Asher, Beskha and Gared survived... Also, I thought killing the traitor was a mistake, but nevermind now. :D

    I would've probably agreed to Asher marrying Gwyn and Mira marrying Morgryn, but I thought that was way too suspicious. Well, of course I was completely wrong. xD Then again, Mira doesn't really have a good ending, no matter what...

    Ugh, of course this had to be the episode where I completely fucked up. Sigh... Well, I'm replaying it to get better endings. Feels like cheating but oh well. xD

    I have to say, the visual side of this episode is gorgeous, especially in Gared's parts. The voice acting couldn't get any better, honestly. It's been brilliant in all the other episodes, obviously, but in this one it was just so full of raw emotion and power. I really admire the work they did in this one, as someone who highly appreciates voice actors and what they do.

    Update: Apparently pretty much the same people die no matter what at Ironrath, so I don't feel so guilty anymore. Elissa's death was so devastating both ways, though. ;-; But, at least Gwyn didn't stab me since I agreed to marry her, I guess. Also, pushing Gryff into the fire and killing him was so damn satisfying after having to stand his ass for so long. Also, I hate Harys even more than before now, that prick. Aaaalso, poor Tom. ;-; I feel so bad for getting him killed, but I wanted to see what happens when you save Mira. It's funny how my thoughts on Gwyn changed based on just one choice. When she betrayed me I was so upset, but when she helped Asher in the final scene I was in love with her again. xD She's surely not bad for a Whitehill.

    The fact that Jon Snow sounds so disappointed at the recap thing in the end makes me sad. D: I'M SORRY JON, I DIDN'T MEAN IT. ;-; Seriously though, the recap thing is awesome. Since I have a weird admiration towards Ramsay (don't worry, I still think he's a horrible person), it's so awesome to hear him talk about what happened, even though he sadly wasn't in this episode otherwise. Cersei, Daenerys and Margaery commentating was cool too.

    What can I even say about this episode. It really killed me inside even more than Life Is Strange, which is rare. Quite unexpected, most of the things that happened. I didn't think Asher would survive after being pierced by a sword, I didn't think Mira would be executed so suddenly, I was sure someone was gonna interrupt it. I wasn't even sure about Lady Elissa dying, but sadly that's how it went. ;-; I can't really say what people think of this episode since I'm way too in shock to even read the other opinions, but I thought it was pretty good. It felt long at first, but it ended quite abruptly. They just kind of smashed the final conclusions in your face all of a sudden. Definitely gave the episode shock value, though. I was sure the determinant living brother would die for good, but I'm happy to say that's not the case, at least not in my playthrough with Asher. I was also convinced Gared was the most likely to die, but ironically he was the most likely to live. xD I think he deserves it, though. I mean, he successfully survived escaping Castle Black, killed wights, saw Finn as one and killed Cotter. (I chose the option to sacrifice Cotter for bloodmagic, and it was so awful to watch and hear. ;-;)

    This comment is already way too long, damn it me. >_> Overall, pretty great episode. They could've put more thought in it, especially the ending, and when you think about it afterwards it wasn't even that long, even if it felt like it at first. I definitely like all the different outcomes. I've yet to see how Rodrik's storyline goes, I need to find a playthrough of that. I'll probably go back eventually and switch back to my original choices, but right now I'm too tired, too sad and too dead to do it.

    Thank the gods I don't live in Westeros, I'd have no chance of survival whatsoever. xD

    Wolfenus54 posted: »

    For me, Gared, Rodrik and Mira survived. So did you enjoy the episode or not? xP

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    I have mixed feelings about this ending. I'm not really happy with Miras story-line, it had so much potential, and that story-line seems too unfinished and rushed in my opinion and a bit disconnected to the others. She was actually the one character I did enjoy to play as the most. I just feel like the whole King's Landing perspective should have been more involved in the story, it felt like nothing Mira did could help her family at all. Because it always back-firered, even though she swore loyalty to the king, and did not risk to ask of help to Tyrion or anyone else. Like her choices in King's Landing could as well not be in the game, because it would not matter anyway. Also Tom, the man. Who seemed to work for somone who wanted to protect Mira?I want answers... I managed to save her - but some people did not. Will she even appear in a new season? It's a shame that I felt that way about the story-line I liked the most. I want to know more about that, and the powers lurking around in King's Landing. Would be a shame to miss that.

    Gared's story-line -- fuck yeah. It was great, complex with many different characters and interactions. His choices did matter and I hope he's going to have more PoV's in season 2. Because I assume they will continue with this series an hopefully follow House Forrester. He got the favor of the people in North Grove, and as they said: "Winter is Coming". He can lead or help them to realize they have more to worry about than killing all the Whitehills (even though that's all I want right now). He seems like to have story-line to develop futher. He did everything for his house, and lost people he loved on the way. Sylvi might have a part in the new season? She was great, but probably hates Gared for what he did (I was an asshole and did the blood magic).

    The tension between Forrester and Whitehills were expected. But yet again they failed to keep their house safe and lost many people - even the small army Asher brought (since he was my choice). So I wonder where they'll turn and how to use both Asher and Rodrick. Maybe they die? Even if that'd be horrible it seems likely to happen. Too difficult to keep up with differnet perspectives during tons of episodes. Beshka and Ryon - might be like a new "Arya/The Hound-duo"? I'd love that to happen anyway. What if the remaining survivors got to the North Grove? I don't know. I'm excited to see where the story-line goes. House Forrester deserve justice and redemption anyways - but just as Stark they might not get what they deserve.

  • Oh shit, Duncan survived for me. At least I feel like I did something right.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Also, RIP Dunc Man, he became the real mvp. Rest in Peace Dunkin Donuts, Rest in Peace.

  • I think I need to learn not to get attached to characters... ;-;

  • True, losing Finn and Cotter was devastating. And if you think about the fact he might eventually find out about how House Forrester was pretty much wrecked after all the effort they put into making things work out, that makes it worse. Asher's storyline is not really better, though. He lost so many people for pretty much nothing, with only him, Talia and the Sentinel/traitor surviving...

    And I agree, the ideal ending would be to stay there and never leave in the first place. I will forever ship Gared and Jon, no matter what.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Idk I think Gareds is the second saddest one, Mira of course topping the list. Although we don't have a clear indication of what the nort

  • For some reason she looked like Bowen to me. o.O

    ABigBadWolf posted: »

    Elsera looks like Ethan with a wig.

  • Well, I chose to poison Ludd, and when I decided to marry Gwyn instead, Lady Elissa attacked Ludd and the fight scene started anyways. You get to kill Gryff instead of Ludd, and Elissa is killed by Harys at the courtyard.

    Does anybody know what happens if you don't go along with the plan?

  • I really enjoyed this episode; people seem to really love to rag on this series, but I've had fun all the way through.

    My Mira would have married slimy Lord Morgryn (I thought we were a dynamic duo, rat bastard!) until he said that he would put Tom to death in my place. It makes sense that he would kill off Tom, seeing as how he'd have been one of Mira's few allies, but I couldn't go through with betraying his trust after all he'd done to help me. Either way, it seems like it would have been the end of the line for Mira's attempts to help her family.

    I did not even realize that there was a chance to try and use diplomacy (or cunning, to poison the Whitehills), because I was so determined to defeat them outright in battle. So much for that plan.

    I had 4/5 of my options as red, which said that I 'fought with furious passion.'

    5/5: ???
    4/5: Furious Passion
    3/5: Instinct and nobility
    2/5: ????
    1/5: ????
    0/5: Unwavering conviction

  • Thank the gods I don't live in Westeros, I'd have no chance of survival whatsoever.

    Aye, Telltale gave us exactly how it is to live in Westeros. It is brutal and unforgiving. :)

    SerMarve posted: »

    Yes! Even though I'm sweating balls right now because it was so bloody intense. xD This episode gave me all the feels. I don't even know

  • Indeed. This episode was probably the most Game Of Thrones-y of them all, especially with Mira's execution and the battle at Ironrath.

    Thank the gods I don't live in Westeros, I'd have no chance of survival whatsoever. Aye, Telltale gave us exactly how it is to live in Westeros. It is brutal and unforgiving.

  • Yes that last sentence is a main reason why I wish he never left. They were so happy together. We would be rangers together and it woulda been so beautiful.

    I made sure Gared marches right back to Ironrath with the voodoo twins. I'm hoping that the men of the watch kill all of them except Gared and then he looks Senpai in the eyes and they love happily ever after

    SerMarve posted: »

    True, losing Finn and Cotter was devastating. And if you think about the fact he might eventually find out about how House Forrester was pre

  • I am not going to lie, I was expecting a bit more for the finale (looking at you cliffhanger) but I was still nicely surprised. Considering Telltale's record, TTGOT's is quite a feat ! Determinant characters survive to see the end ! Incredible right ?! On a more serious note, I can't wait to see what's next for Season 2, but I have some fears: either we get non-determinant POV characters (Gared, Ryon, Malcolm) or we get an awfully long (4+ years is my guess) wait so they can include determinant POV characters (Mira, Asher, Rodrik) which I actually doubt they'll do. Either way, it seems that Telltale has finally decided to shake up their already working formula, and I'll gladly stick with them with their next projects.

  • This should at the very least be a DLC. Telltale, take notes.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Yes that last sentence is a main reason why I wish he never left. They were so happy together. We would be rangers together and it woulda be

  • I got this ending too, although I only had 1 red. Either way I think Ironwrath still burns.

  • If anything, I admire that Telltale maintained the feel of Game of Thrones, despite possibly alienating the players. It is not a heroic and high-fantasy setting, where a small army and a great leader can win a hopeless battle. Just like what would happen in the real world, a small army can't defeat a huge army.

    SerMarve posted: »

    Indeed. This episode was probably the most Game Of Thrones-y of them all, especially with Mira's execution and the battle at Ironrath.

  • Yeah, you know something's not right when a small army has even the tiniest bit of hope to win against a bigger army. That's the precise moment when the Game Of Thrones feel hits and pretty much everyone dies.

    If anything, I admire that Telltale maintained the feel of Game of Thrones, despite possibly alienating the players. It is not a heroic and

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    Well, I always played this game smart and strategic, but at this point, I had enough. Better to die free than live as a slave which are basically what your two choices are in this episode.

  • I really liked that episode. about the lack of conclusion...it shows that there will most likely be a second season. It would be rather stupid to end the forrester arc within one season. they sighned a multi-year contract with HBO. what did you expect? but i agree that the mira storyline was dissapointing. and about the amount of determinant characters...It may be the biggest mistake of ttg, yet or they want to cross the boundries of choices and consequences. They did it with Rodrik/Asher and with the right amount of time, they could set a new standard for those kinds of games. they already did it with the twds2 endings. Telltale obviously wants to be bigger. the first step is a new/updated engine and they should completly ditch the mobil versions. they're pulling ttgs opportunitys back.

  • About to play through as Asher but as Rodrik why in FRICK wasn't I given the choice to get the hell back up and try to help Elaena. I mean, she's totally pregnant... ;_;

  • the only one i know who has the power to protect Mira is Varys.. i bet it's him

    Louixe posted: »

    I have mixed feelings about this ending. I'm not really happy with Miras story-line, it had so much potential, and that story-line seems too

  • Well, I just finished episode 6. I have to admit, I expected a bit more from the ending of this season. I mean, honestly, throughout the whole season, seeing this end, I feel like my choices didn't have much impact at all. Tried to play the game in the smartest and most objective way, stayed away from war as much as I could, and it was all just a piss in the dark, it didn't contribute to pretty much anything.

    It's like, you're given the option of either being shot in the leg, or have it broken; in the end, it doesn't matter what you chose, you still won't be able to use your leg. That's exactly how I feel about this whole adventure. It's been fun at times, sad in most of them, and god damn frustrating the whole time, but it kept me going.

    Wouldn't play a new season though, it left a really sour taste

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    Glad to hear that there is a person who felt the same about Mira. I could really bring myself into the mind of this character. But in the End...it feels like Miras story wasnt really important. It's like the story would go the same way if the character Mira didnt existed. The end really broke my heard...i didnt choosed like u. I told the other women in the cell "Do what ever you can to help your family. THAT is your mission..." and I did this. And helping my family was in "Not marrying Mogryn". I couldnt let this guy sitting on the Throne and...deform my family. I rather die than cripple my own family by letting this monster becoming the head of my people. So i did EVERYTHING to help my family...and...i just wished something would have saved her. So no. i dont feel okay with miras end. And the alternative wasnt any better. You see I would have marry Mogryn (since he is quite handsome and somehow badass ^.^) but i droped the chance when he said "We wont rule together. i will lock u up." and i thought about Jeyne Poole from the book. I just couldnt. And...it makes me angry.

    Gareds story- Yes it was badass but I dont get the choice in the end. Protect the North Grove or help Forresters. Why should someone stay?! I dont get it?! After all the things you want to...STAY?! I poisened Cotter to death. Always, ALWAYS bros before hoes...i dont regret it. Not one bit.

    Rodriks Story - Was the best in this episode imo. So much tension! I was so excited the whole battle. I killed Ludd btw. And was safed in the battle by Royland...whos rpobably dead now too and that makes me pretty pissed cause i loved him. In the end Rodrik was found by his little sister and Duncan (which i still like and think his traitor thing was out of character as fuck...)

    Louixe posted: »

    I have mixed feelings about this ending. I'm not really happy with Miras story-line, it had so much potential, and that story-line seems too

  • RIP in peace poorly lit/shadow Bowen. Your incredibly out-of-nowhere return and immediate sacrifice will be forever immortalized.

    RIP

    Great episode tho.

  • I'm just disappointed that there was no real conclusion. I was hoping that if there was going to be a second season, it would be a whole new family in Essos or perhaps somewhere south.

    I'm just bothered that there is no confirmed season 2 now with the lack of any real finality in the ending, since seemingly no matter what you do, you lose.

  • North Grove was a bit meh.

  • Then how does the ep end?

    Nah. If u sacrifice the drink to Asher, Asher dies instead.

  • Yes you can decapitate Ludd

    Liki91 posted: »

    Can Ludd die?

  • what other bastards does he have?

    8 actually. I'm left wondering who Josera and Elsera's mother is. Those two are so cool...

  • I saved Bowen yet this never happened so uhhhh

    RIP in peace poorly lit/shadow Bowen. Your incredibly out-of-nowhere return and immediate sacrifice will be forever immortalized. Great episode tho.

  • This is the most disappointed I've been in the ending of a game since ME3. Telltale should have wrapped things up with this final episode. Instead it feels like they've decided to just prolong the narrative for the sake of making more episodes. I wanted a conclusion to the Forrester/Whitehill feud; all Episode 6 really does is add to the body count.

    From a narrative perspective, what purpose does this episode serve, really? The stakes were already as high as they'll ever be. You've lost multiple members of your family so the revenge angle is already dialed up as high as it can go. The Lord of Ironrath is fighting for the survival of his entire household. At this point I'd wager most players are as emotionally invested in the characters as they'll ever be. It is a natural place to conclude the story.

    I don't want to sound overly negative about this episode (it certainly isn't a 6.7 out of 10). There were a lot of great combat set pieces, fantastic dialogue and tense moments. I've only done one play through and I'm sure I'll go through at least once more. But this is one of the rare instances where I think Telltale's writing is off.

    There's a difference between leaving players wanting more and leaving them unsatisfied. For me, Episode 6 only accomplished the latter.

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