At first, I was blown away when the whole Joffrey beating Margaery scene skipped, but now I'm very pissed.
I can guarantee that Joffrey never laid a single finger on Margaery, and that she was just trying to make Mira think that he did. I can actually guarantee Margaery didn't even talk to Joffrey about the Forrester's situation, as Joffrey would sooner aid the Whitehills than the Forresters, as the Crown is allied with the Boltons. She is a Tyrell, not a prisoner from an enemy family like Sansa.
Anyway, your choices does matter... In a way. It changes the way some characters treat you. But it all leads to similar endings. The only way to save Mira is to marry Morgryn, as there is no way to not get in his way to avoid his anger to begin with.
My main concern is that I played all telltales games, and in season 2 of TWD, they chose the easy way to get rid of all the characters that could have died in Season 1. It means that if they'll do the same with GOT, only three characters might survive Beksa, Ryon and Gared. And this is my main concern. Because for the first time in telltales many different characters can survive, but if they were to disappear early in the second season, every choices, endings would be fake. So I'm waiting for this second season to see if Telltale can take this challenge, and really create different endings regarding our choices, on the longterm.
In RPGs, the player's choices must have from time to time an impact on the story. Otherwise it's just a TV series, not a game. That is why I love so much Tales from the Bordeland, because as it is not a very dark story, reaching the same finale doesn't matter, and it was far better written that GOT (the game). I think that Telltales is strong enough now to take the risk to write different storylines to fit our choices, as in most goof RPG games. It will be costly, but their games will be much more fun to replay, especially because you can't save or skip the scenes. Even if the prices of their games rise up, I will buy them if they can become more RPG like.
I really don't think Ryon is going to be a playable character. They can only go so far into the future, and the kid is only 7 years old. If they even get him to his early teens they'd have to go 6 years into the future, and Telltale has no idea what the canon setting would be then.
My guess is Ryon is going to be like Clem, with Beshka being his Lee.
Joffrey would sooner aid the Whitehills than the Forresters, as the Crown is allied with the Boltons.
It's Joffrey... the Starks were allied with the Baratheons, and - at least in theory - thus, to Joffrey... and look what he did. Joffrey didn't care about the practicalities of what he did in the slightest, which is why he led the Seven Kingdoms to civil war....
At first, I was blown away when the whole Joffrey beating Margaery scene skipped, but now I'm very pissed.
I can guarantee that Joff… morerey never laid a single finger on Margaery, and that she was just trying to make Mira think that he did. I can actually guarantee Margaery didn't even talk to Joffrey about the Forrester's situation, as Joffrey would sooner aid the Whitehills than the Forresters, as the Crown is allied with the Boltons. She is a Tyrell, not a prisoner from an enemy family like Sansa.
Anyway, your choices does matter... In a way. It changes the way some characters treat you. But it all leads to similar endings. The only way to save Mira is to marry Morgryn, as there is no way to not get in his way to avoid his anger to begin with.
My main concern is that I played all telltales games, and in season 2 of TWD, they chose the easy way to get rid of all the characters that … morecould have died in Season 1. It means that if they'll do the same with GOT, only three characters might survive Beksa, Ryon and Gared. And this is my main concern. Because for the first time in telltales many different characters can survive, but if they were to disappear early in the second season, every choices, endings would be fake. So I'm waiting for this second season to see if Telltale can take this challenge, and really create different endings regarding our choices, on the longterm.
In RPGs, the player's choices must have from time to time an impact on the story. Otherwise it's just a TV series, not a game. That is why I love so much Tales from the Bordeland, because as it is not a very dark story, reaching the same finale doesn't matter, and it was far better written that GOT (the game). I thi… [view original content]
I found Ludd's death unsatisfying. He proved to be a good fighter with his greatsword and when beaten didn't fear death. Gryff's was more satisfying because of his crying and begging.
so finished the 4th (and final) playthrough choosing to kill ludd, beskha still rides off with ryon at the end on horseback and ironrath sti… morell falls, but you do get to decapitate ludd which is just so very satisfying. also telling the glenmore girl this is war doesn't change shit she still gets pulled off screen (most likely to be thrown into a tent for gryff since he's still alive and he wants her, dude doesn't seem to be the type to share). cool game can't say it was worth waiting a fucking year but still awesome. IRON FROM ICE!
there is only one thing to say forrester=stark i mean what the hell on crisis after another when i stop asher mom from get poisen and went to war then archers aim at me and i was like, omg its the starks all over again but thanks god asher survive.
in the both ending with asher and rodrik i chose to say sorry brother (becouse i loved them both and the next season will suck without at list one of them).
So I have to ask....Did anyone actually choose the "Not in the face." option during the battle scene with Asher where he's surrounded by Whitehill soldiers? Because I did on my second playthrough and it was great.
I love Telltale but that's the most anticlimactic use of a key in a video game ever.
Everyone knows when you see a key in a video game yo… moreu take it. Carrying it around for the entire game waiting to unlock something and then its only use to be "oh here I was holding on to this for you sorry" and give it back? And only if you didn't steal the other thing, otherwise you never find out what it was for (unless you hang out on these forums with people of encyclopedic knowledge of all choice branches, bless you)? That's some bullshit.
yeah. I only have TWO playable forresters left according to the main menu screen and cause of my choices. but I WILL rise strong.
.. its ironic. I wanted to play the game of thrones smartly and do well to ensure the survival of my house, but I ended up like the starks. Holding stubbornly onto my honour and paying the price
Really angry with the result of my decisions. You choose integrity and honour with Mira... she loses her head. You choose NOT to let your mo… morether sacrifice herself (because who would? :S) .. the whole plan gets fucked up. I'm sorry but that is bullshit, everyone that was in on the plan knew that shit was about to go down as soon as Ludd was poisoned. They were ready for a fight regardless. How was it that Ludd was the only man to escape that room? Stupid. Just feel very deflated and frustrated after that finale. What was the point of my decisions?
Also season 2 with THREE Forresters left? Two of them being Talia and Ryon, not exactly the most pivotal of characters.
At least in the books/television series the remaining Starks (all of the stark children with the exception of Robb) are all quite developed once Ned, Cat and Robb are gone.
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As it is your first Telltale game, I can understand your confusion. But the thing is this: It's simply impossible for Telltale to do more than one 'main story line'. If they had several, it would take months or even years for a single Episode to release. That has always been the case with Telltale games, ever since TWD.
'This game series adapts to the choices you make. It is tailored by how you play it'
Not even huge games like Mass Effect can pull several main storylines off. And Telltale still has a loose timetable they have to follow, Episodes simply can't take 10 months to come out.
So major events are bound to happen, or the story couldn't happen. What the player does is merely changing his personal experience of Telltale's set story. Mira has to steal the Ironwood decree from Morgryn, or she would never be imprisoned. Rodrik and Asher have to be trapped, or both of them could survive. Gared has to kill Britt and become a deserter. Ethan has to die.
If you expect a majorly different story this time around, then stop playing and spare yourself the disappointment. The story will not change, however the way characters interact with you will. This time around, you can be a dick to everyone or be very smart about everything. But the outcome is the same: Ironrath in ruins, Lady Forrester dead, Sentinel dead (if you spared the traitor), Cotter dead...it doesn't change.
If you don't like that, then I suggest that you savour the memories of your first playthrough and don't take a closer look behind the curtain. That being said, the choice of which brother to save is actually really important, for Season 2 aswell since the brother survives. Asher's and Rodrik's stories are completely different in Episode 6, not a single scene is the same except for the final battle. So you could do a second playthrough with the exact opposite choices of which you did in the first. The experience will be very different, but the outcome will be the same. And Telltale is all about that experience of the first playthrough. So if you liked that, then Telltale achieved their goal.
You mean Ned's execution? He told Joffrey he was no king. That is an act of treason, even if he was right.
It would be the difference between aiding your ally's bannermen or your enemy's bannermen. The Boltons helped dealing with the problem (the Starks). Joffrey had no reason to aid people that fought for Robb, but he had many reasons to aid the Whitehills so they would help destroying what was left of Robb's army. Joffrey had that "pretend to be good for your allies while they are useful, destroy your enemies" thing going on.
Joffrey would sooner aid the Whitehills than the Forresters, as the Crown is allied with the Boltons.
It's Joffrey... the Starks wer… moree allied with the Baratheons, and - at least in theory - thus, to Joffrey... and look what he did. Joffrey didn't care about the practicalities of what he did in the slightest, which is why he led the Seven Kingdoms to civil war....
He only executed him after he acknowledged him as king... So, no, I don't agree. Not to mention his calling off his betrothal with Sansa and deciding to ally with someone else altogether on essentially, at the time, a whim.
You mean Ned's execution? He told Joffrey he was no king. That is an act of treason, even if he was right.
It would be the difference bet… moreween aiding your ally's bannermen or your enemy's bannermen. The Boltons helped dealing with the problem (the Starks). Joffrey had no reason to aid people that fought for Robb, but he had many reasons to aid the Whitehills so they would help destroying what was left of Robb's army. Joffrey had that "pretend to be good for your allies while they are useful, destroy your enemies" thing going on.
When he acknowledged him as a king, the mess was already made. And of course Joffrey would call off his betrothal with Sansa, she was the daughter of a traitor after all. Why would he marry a girl from a family that committed treason against you instead of a girl from a powerful family that is bending the knee to you?
Joffrey was impulsive and violent, but his acts were not random.
He only executed him after he acknowledged him as king... So, no, I don't agree. Not to mention his calling off his betrothal with Sansa and deciding to ally with someone else altogether on essentially, at the time, a whim.
Because they were allies, and the marriage's purpose was to cement that alliance? The point was that Joffrey does not give a crap about the relations of his House and behaves purely on whim, and I don't see anything you've said that refutes that.
When he acknowledged him as a king, the mess was already made. And of course Joffrey would call off his betrothal with Sansa, she was the da… moreughter of a traitor after all. Why would he marry a girl from a family that committed treason against you instead of a girl from a powerful family that is bending the knee to you?
Joffrey was impulsive and violent, but his acts were not random.
They were allies up until the point when Sansa, worrying about her marriage to Joffrey, told Cersei what her father has been planning to do. Once the Lord of House Stark became a traitor, she became a hostage, not an ally.
I honestly don't see how it could be any more logical.
Because they were allies, and the marriage's purpose was to cement that alliance? The point was that Joffrey does not give a crap about the relations of his House and behaves purely on whim, and I don't see anything you've said that refutes that.
Because the branding of Stark as a traitor to begin with was Joffrey's doing, with Ned having brought a letter with the King Robert's seal for him to be the Lord Protector until Joffrey turned 18. The trouble did not start with Ned declaring Joffrey to not be king, it was all 100% Joffrey's doing - this denial and betrayal of their alliance was purely Joffrey/Cersie's doing. And after, we see Cersei's suggestion that they allow Ned to live, so the betrayal truly is Joffrey's
I don't see how it could be logical at all. Joffrey is clearly temperamental and goes purely on whim. He is not calculating or logical, he is not Cersei, he is not Tyrion, respectively.
They were allies up until the point when Sansa, worrying about her marriage to Joffrey, told Cersei what her father has been planning to do.… more Once the Lord of House Stark became a traitor, she became a hostage, not an ally.
I honestly don't see how it could be any more logical.
That's not how it happened. The trouble started with Ned doing his little investigation and deciding to reveal to everybody that Joffrey was a bastard and, therefore, not a true heir of Robert Baratheon's throne. He even went straight to Cersei to reveal his plan and give her "an opportunity to take her children and flee". Although Ned was right, that would mean Joffrey would lose the Throne, and Stannis would take his place as the rightful king, as Robert didn't have a single legitimate child.
That was why he was branded a traitor. That was why he was executed. That was why Robb decided to wage war on the Crown and that's why Sansa went from ally to hostage.
Because the branding of Stark as a traitor to begin with was Joffrey's doing, with Ned having brought a letter with the King Robert's seal f… moreor him to be the Lord Protector until Joffrey turned 18. The trouble did not start with Ned declaring Joffrey to not be king, it was all 100% Joffrey's doing - this denial and betrayal of their alliance was purely Joffrey/Cersie's doing. And after, we see Cersei's suggestion that they allow Ned to live, so the betrayal truly is Joffrey's
I don't see how it could be logical at all. Joffrey is clearly temperamental and goes purely on whim. He is not calculating or logical, he is not Cersei, he is not Tyrion, respectively.
You can either poison Ludd which makes his eyes bleed, nose bleed, and he coughs blood with a pale and purple face. OR you can behead him after stabbing him in his fat fat gut.
I think it was better we dont win (im not a whitehill) since then everybody would just change their savefiles to win. And more emotion in that ending than what a win would've given us. Finally more development options to try and win again than having a season two where were just sitting there as winners.
"The graphics are what makes Telltale interesting, their graphics are a certain style that's been lost for ages. How is the game unfinished?"
I think he meant it was unfinished in terms of the final product. The game didn't run very well because it was riddled with bugs which most apologists seem to over look. My playthrough froze long enough for me to go to the toilet and come back and that was during the final battle scene, episode 6 was virtually unplayable at times and I had to turn my PS3 off and restart the game numerously. The audio fucked up so often I had to put on subtitles to find out what was being said at crucial points like when the boy was being beheaded. I actually failed a fighting sequence at the grove because the screen froze and the game didn't register my controllers input commands.
Call me a snob but after waiting so long for playing a lengthy delayed episode I expected it to be polished and ready. I didn't encounter one glitch when I played "life is strange", nor were there problems with freezing or muted audio and the episodes didn't have lengthy delays. This is 2015. I expect better. Games on my Commodore 64 ran better than telltale's games are running on my PS3 WTF! So yeah! I'm incline to agree with vashcz. The game was unfinished because bugs were not removed before the game was shipped.
The graphics are what makes Telltale interesting, their graphics are a certain style that's been lost for ages. How is the game unfinished? … moreThere is room for season 2. And if you read the books there are far more deaths to "sexual things" making it "unbalanced". Martin had a small hand in this. There isn't room for that in something like this it needed to move quickly for the stories those scenes would of slowed it down significantly.
Unfortunately, Telltale makes a lot of stuff always happen no matter what you choices were, as a Telltale fan, you kinda grow to accept it. However, Telltale has been doing a lot better regarding this, especially on what happens if Asher/Rodrik is alive in Episode 6. There's quite a few differences there, but ultimately the same thing happens but just differently... if that makes sense.
I'm incredibly satisfied with my ending, actually.
I got exactly what I wanted - the chance to actually try to make peace with Gwyn. Lady Forrester was a badass fighting Harys. Duncan saved me. Beskha saved Ryon. And I proudly kept my dignity as Mira, and accepted death.
Really angry with the result of my decisions. You choose integrity and honour with Mira... she loses her head. You choose NOT to let your mo… morether sacrifice herself (because who would? :S) .. the whole plan gets fucked up. I'm sorry but that is bullshit, everyone that was in on the plan knew that shit was about to go down as soon as Ludd was poisoned. They were ready for a fight regardless. How was it that Ludd was the only man to escape that room? Stupid. Just feel very deflated and frustrated after that finale. What was the point of my decisions?
Also season 2 with THREE Forresters left? Two of them being Talia and Ryon, not exactly the most pivotal of characters.
At least in the books/television series the remaining Starks (all of the stark children with the exception of Robb) are all quite developed once Ned, Cat and Robb are gone.
There are similarities with these characters. Asher(or Snow siblings)/Jon. Roddrik/Robb. Mira/Sansa. … [view original content]
Really angry with the result of my decisions. You choose integrity and honour with Mira... she loses her head. You choose NOT to let your mo… morether sacrifice herself (because who would? :S) .. the whole plan gets fucked up. I'm sorry but that is bullshit, everyone that was in on the plan knew that shit was about to go down as soon as Ludd was poisoned. They were ready for a fight regardless. How was it that Ludd was the only man to escape that room? Stupid. Just feel very deflated and frustrated after that finale. What was the point of my decisions?
Also season 2 with THREE Forresters left? Two of them being Talia and Ryon, not exactly the most pivotal of characters.
At least in the books/television series the remaining Starks (all of the stark children with the exception of Robb) are all quite developed once Ned, Cat and Robb are gone.
There are similarities with these characters. Asher(or Snow siblings)/Jon. Roddrik/Robb. Mira/Sansa. … [view original content]
You choose integrity and honour with Mira... she loses her head
Well its Game Of Thrones, usually the honest people always get killed in the end, and the assholes live on.
and Rodrik/Asher is pretty much a stark. Last words to mother before Mother died was Mother for all 3. yea.... At Highpoint killing Ludd results in the Red Wedding again with Rodrik saying Mother before both died.
there is only one thing to say forrester=stark i mean what the hell on crisis after another when i stop asher mom from get poisen and went to war then archers aim at me and i was like, omg its the starks all over again but thanks god asher survive.
If im honest I play to get the best ending and now I don't know what Forrester I want to live, whether I want my sentinel traitor or Gwyn to save me as Asher/Rodrik. Who do I want to kill, Ludd or Gryff since Ryon lives either way (Im happy about this) I haven't even played Episode 6 yet. UGH! But you can see Bowen AND Erik in Episode 6 soo yay
I think it was better we dont win (im not a whitehill) since then everybody would just change their savefiles to win. And more emotion in th… moreat ending than what a win would've given us. Finally more development options to try and win again than having a season two where were just sitting there as winners.
Thank you for telling me.
But omg my heart. Ow.
I feel bad too because the first time I saw her die I basically rage quit and then I thoug… moreht, "Oh, wait, the Whitehills...ehhhh...if I give up the small folk then they might not get reinforcements but they still came through on the second time so I let my people die, sorta didn't give Cotter the poison and I'm pretty sure Sylvi ran away, AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE HEART TO TELL ELEANA TO GO TO THE RIVERLANDS AND SHE LAJKSOD/F YI]HAS09-DPRV GFH[OA1SI'/FH[POAIS/DFHLAIKS
She gonna be preggers with Roddy's baby and I let her stay and she got hurt and dragged off and Gryff is gonna hurt her and I'm going to hurt so fucking much.
THIS FINALE WAS GOOD AND I HATE MYSELF.
I'm surprised only 15% decided to trust Gwyn and not go through with plan - this will get you an extra scene at the end of Gwyn + Talia tend… moreing to the half-dead Asher and you still get to stab Gwyff. Having rewinded a few times, this actually seemed the best ending. (none of the other choices really change much - Ironrath always gets burned and lotta people gonna die; and the other choices are mostly season 2 bait)
The only other major life-or-death is the terrible conclusion to the Mira storyline - you either kill Mira or choose the live but the game will make you feel extra bad for just choosing life. None of her choices matters AT ALL other than maybe a one liner in the epilogue.
Well the Key was left right beside the Seal, if it was truly important I doubt Lady Margaery would've even placed it in the presence of her Hand Maidens in the first place.
I love Telltale but that's the most anticlimactic use of a key in a video game ever.
Everyone knows when you see a key in a video game yo… moreu take it. Carrying it around for the entire game waiting to unlock something and then its only use to be "oh here I was holding on to this for you sorry" and give it back? And only if you didn't steal the other thing, otherwise you never find out what it was for (unless you hang out on these forums with people of encyclopedic knowledge of all choice branches, bless you)? That's some bullshit.
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I can guarantee that Joffrey never laid a single finger on Margaery, and that she was just trying to make Mira think that he did. I can actually guarantee Margaery didn't even talk to Joffrey about the Forrester's situation, as Joffrey would sooner aid the Whitehills than the Forresters, as the Crown is allied with the Boltons. She is a Tyrell, not a prisoner from an enemy family like Sansa.
Anyway, your choices does matter... In a way. It changes the way some characters treat you. But it all leads to similar endings. The only way to save Mira is to marry Morgryn, as there is no way to not get in his way to avoid his anger to begin with.
My main concern is that I played all telltales games, and in season 2 of TWD, they chose the easy way to get rid of all the characters that could have died in Season 1. It means that if they'll do the same with GOT, only three characters might survive Beksa, Ryon and Gared. And this is my main concern. Because for the first time in telltales many different characters can survive, but if they were to disappear early in the second season, every choices, endings would be fake. So I'm waiting for this second season to see if Telltale can take this challenge, and really create different endings regarding our choices, on the longterm.
In RPGs, the player's choices must have from time to time an impact on the story. Otherwise it's just a TV series, not a game. That is why I love so much Tales from the Bordeland, because as it is not a very dark story, reaching the same finale doesn't matter, and it was far better written that GOT (the game). I think that Telltales is strong enough now to take the risk to write different storylines to fit our choices, as in most goof RPG games. It will be costly, but their games will be much more fun to replay, especially because you can't save or skip the scenes. Even if the prices of their games rise up, I will buy them if they can become more RPG like.
I really don't think Ryon is going to be a playable character. They can only go so far into the future, and the kid is only 7 years old. If they even get him to his early teens they'd have to go 6 years into the future, and Telltale has no idea what the canon setting would be then.
My guess is Ryon is going to be like Clem, with Beshka being his Lee.
lol. You should have known murdering Ramsay wasn't going to happen...
It's Joffrey... the Starks were allied with the Baratheons, and - at least in theory - thus, to Joffrey... and look what he did. Joffrey didn't care about the practicalities of what he did in the slightest, which is why he led the Seven Kingdoms to civil war....
Doesn't Talia survive regardless of any choices?
I found Ludd's death unsatisfying. He proved to be a good fighter with his greatsword and when beaten didn't fear death. Gryff's was more satisfying because of his crying and begging.
there is only one thing to say forrester=stark i mean what the hell on crisis after another when i stop asher mom from get poisen and went to war then archers aim at me and i was like, omg its the starks all over again but thanks god asher survive.
in the both ending with asher and rodrik i chose to say sorry brother (becouse i loved them both and the next season will suck without at list one of them).
Obviously, it's a lesson on not to steal. =P
Asher/Rodrik, Talia, Ryon and Mira.
yeah. I only have TWO playable forresters left according to the main menu screen and cause of my choices. but I WILL rise strong.
.. its ironic. I wanted to play the game of thrones smartly and do well to ensure the survival of my house, but I ended up like the starks. Holding stubbornly onto my honour and paying the price
As it is your first Telltale game, I can understand your confusion. But the thing is this: It's simply impossible for Telltale to do more than one 'main story line'. If they had several, it would take months or even years for a single Episode to release. That has always been the case with Telltale games, ever since TWD.
'This game series adapts to the choices you make. It is tailored by how you play it'
Not even huge games like Mass Effect can pull several main storylines off. And Telltale still has a loose timetable they have to follow, Episodes simply can't take 10 months to come out.
So major events are bound to happen, or the story couldn't happen. What the player does is merely changing his personal experience of Telltale's set story. Mira has to steal the Ironwood decree from Morgryn, or she would never be imprisoned. Rodrik and Asher have to be trapped, or both of them could survive. Gared has to kill Britt and become a deserter. Ethan has to die.
If you expect a majorly different story this time around, then stop playing and spare yourself the disappointment. The story will not change, however the way characters interact with you will. This time around, you can be a dick to everyone or be very smart about everything. But the outcome is the same: Ironrath in ruins, Lady Forrester dead, Sentinel dead (if you spared the traitor), Cotter dead...it doesn't change.
If you don't like that, then I suggest that you savour the memories of your first playthrough and don't take a closer look behind the curtain. That being said, the choice of which brother to save is actually really important, for Season 2 aswell since the brother survives. Asher's and Rodrik's stories are completely different in Episode 6, not a single scene is the same except for the final battle. So you could do a second playthrough with the exact opposite choices of which you did in the first. The experience will be very different, but the outcome will be the same. And Telltale is all about that experience of the first playthrough. So if you liked that, then Telltale achieved their goal.
You mean Ned's execution? He told Joffrey he was no king. That is an act of treason, even if he was right.
It would be the difference between aiding your ally's bannermen or your enemy's bannermen. The Boltons helped dealing with the problem (the Starks). Joffrey had no reason to aid people that fought for Robb, but he had many reasons to aid the Whitehills so they would help destroying what was left of Robb's army. Joffrey had that "pretend to be good for your allies while they are useful, destroy your enemies" thing going on.
He only executed him after he acknowledged him as king... So, no, I don't agree. Not to mention his calling off his betrothal with Sansa and deciding to ally with someone else altogether on essentially, at the time, a whim.
When he acknowledged him as a king, the mess was already made. And of course Joffrey would call off his betrothal with Sansa, she was the daughter of a traitor after all. Why would he marry a girl from a family that committed treason against you instead of a girl from a powerful family that is bending the knee to you?
Joffrey was impulsive and violent, but his acts were not random.
Because they were allies, and the marriage's purpose was to cement that alliance? The point was that Joffrey does not give a crap about the relations of his House and behaves purely on whim, and I don't see anything you've said that refutes that.
They were allies up until the point when Sansa, worrying about her marriage to Joffrey, told Cersei what her father has been planning to do. Once the Lord of House Stark became a traitor, she became a hostage, not an ally.
I honestly don't see how it could be any more logical.
I think it is just lazy writing but whatever
Can you even save Asher/Rodrik? Or are they doomed either way?
Because the branding of Stark as a traitor to begin with was Joffrey's doing, with Ned having brought a letter with the King Robert's seal for him to be the Lord Protector until Joffrey turned 18. The trouble did not start with Ned declaring Joffrey to not be king, it was all 100% Joffrey's doing - this denial and betrayal of their alliance was purely Joffrey/Cersie's doing. And after, we see Cersei's suggestion that they allow Ned to live, so the betrayal truly is Joffrey's
I don't see how it could be logical at all. Joffrey is clearly temperamental and goes purely on whim. He is not calculating or logical, he is not Cersei, he is not Tyrion, respectively.
That's not how it happened. The trouble started with Ned doing his little investigation and deciding to reveal to everybody that Joffrey was a bastard and, therefore, not a true heir of Robert Baratheon's throne. He even went straight to Cersei to reveal his plan and give her "an opportunity to take her children and flee". Although Ned was right, that would mean Joffrey would lose the Throne, and Stannis would take his place as the rightful king, as Robert didn't have a single legitimate child.
That was why he was branded a traitor. That was why he was executed. That was why Robb decided to wage war on the Crown and that's why Sansa went from ally to hostage.
They can still live, but they're badly injured at the end.
how do you behead Ludd? is it as asher or Rodrik?
I read that two characters save your Lord. It could be Gwynn for instance, but I'm not sure. I will wait for S02 to test all endings.
I think it was better we dont win (im not a whitehill) since then everybody would just change their savefiles to win. And more emotion in that ending than what a win would've given us. Finally more development options to try and win again than having a season two where were just sitting there as winners.
Just Rodrik I think. Asher can not but Rodrik can not poison Ludd.
"The graphics are what makes Telltale interesting, their graphics are a certain style that's been lost for ages. How is the game unfinished?"
I think he meant it was unfinished in terms of the final product. The game didn't run very well because it was riddled with bugs which most apologists seem to over look. My playthrough froze long enough for me to go to the toilet and come back and that was during the final battle scene, episode 6 was virtually unplayable at times and I had to turn my PS3 off and restart the game numerously. The audio fucked up so often I had to put on subtitles to find out what was being said at crucial points like when the boy was being beheaded. I actually failed a fighting sequence at the grove because the screen froze and the game didn't register my controllers input commands.
Call me a snob but after waiting so long for playing a lengthy delayed episode I expected it to be polished and ready. I didn't encounter one glitch when I played "life is strange", nor were there problems with freezing or muted audio and the episodes didn't have lengthy delays. This is 2015. I expect better. Games on my Commodore 64 ran better than telltale's games are running on my PS3 WTF! So yeah! I'm incline to agree with vashcz. The game was unfinished because bugs were not removed before the game was shipped.
Unfortunately, Telltale makes a lot of stuff always happen no matter what you choices were, as a Telltale fan, you kinda grow to accept it. However, Telltale has been doing a lot better regarding this, especially on what happens if Asher/Rodrik is alive in Episode 6. There's quite a few differences there, but ultimately the same thing happens but just differently... if that makes sense.
I'm incredibly satisfied with my ending, actually.
I got exactly what I wanted - the chance to actually try to make peace with Gwyn. Lady Forrester was a badass fighting Harys. Duncan saved me. Beskha saved Ryon. And I proudly kept my dignity as Mira, and accepted death.
Now the agonising wait for season 2.. :P
Well its Game Of Thrones, usually the honest people always get killed in the end, and the assholes live on.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Talia is always there.
Well, the two bastards in the North Grove could sort of count as Forresters? I can at least see them being playable.
I sort of predict the two bastards, Talia, Gared and Asher/Rodrik as the season 2 playable characters, but that's rather tentative.
what did she do O_o? for you to be so angry at gwyn
But we have to admit, Ramsay has some nice abs
and Rodrik/Asher is pretty much a stark. Last words to mother before Mother died was Mother for all 3. yea.... At Highpoint killing Ludd results in the Red Wedding again with Rodrik saying Mother before both died.
Can you get Asher poisoned or is that a lie?
If im honest I play to get the best ending and now I don't know what Forrester I want to live, whether I want my sentinel traitor or Gwyn to save me as Asher/Rodrik. Who do I want to kill, Ludd or Gryff since Ryon lives either way (Im happy about this) I haven't even played Episode 6 yet. UGH! But you can see Bowen AND Erik in Episode 6 soo yay
IF it makes you feel better you can get Bowen stabbed by Harys ( Big whitehill dude)
Can you link me to a vid of Gwyn tending to Asher, I can't find it anywhere nor can I find Bowen getting stabbed by Harys
Well the Key was left right beside the Seal, if it was truly important I doubt Lady Margaery would've even placed it in the presence of her Hand Maidens in the first place.