I just told you that I am not new to the universe, but I guess you chose to ignore that so you can continue your insults. Thats fine. I dont continue to deal with people who cant be respectful, so you have a good Christmas.
I just told you that I am not new to the universe, but I guess you chose to ignore that so you can continue your insults. Thats fine. I dont continue to deal with people who cant be respectful, so you have a good Christmas.
And she was the first to sheathe her drawn weapon in an attempt to stop the fight, and yet Kenny still attacks her.
That's not killing her in self-defense, that's attempted murder.
It still doesn't give Kenny the right to try and kill Jane with no proof that she killed AJ except with baseless conjecture.
It only shows what would have happened had Clementine, or any other team member in different circumstances, been the one to lose AJ during the blizzard.
You see I don't insult people with different opinions to me or try not to. KCohere is entitled to her opinion but i wouldn't insult her. It just makes people look bad.
I do disagree though, I don't think he enjoyed beating Arvo up, he just didn't like him over the whole Russian shoot out earlier. That's my opinion and i will always stand by that.
That is my interpretation based on the fact that he was using every opportunity to do it. You dont have to laugh and smile. You can take a cold joy out of something.
Yeah well at least Kenny or any of his crew aren't arrogant/insane enough to start asking anyone he comes across how many walkers and people he's killed in a really obnoxious way. I'd have Kenny in my crew over that cocksucker named Rick any day of the week.
If Rick Grimes was in the group, Kenny would be long dead. His unstable state of mind, violent attitude and irrationality would've triggered Ricktator so many times.
I agree and I think the rest of the team were wrong at least at first. Kenny has got people shooting at him and trying to murder him thanks to Jane and Clementine. The rest of the group are having a go at him for using the guy that started it all as a sheild? After that I didn't care about Arvo either way. I probably wasn't going to kill him, neither would I stand in the way of anyone else trying to kill him.
And yet Arvo and the other Russian pricks held them all at gunpoint and tried to rob them. So yep i support Kenny. I would do the same to a … moreprick who is responsible for that! And just because he didn't have a gun or whatever doesn't mean shit. My opinion
Yep and as you know that's your opinion as is mine. I would never trust or forgive someone when him and his friends threaten me with a gun. I wouldn't go as far as to do what Kenny did beating him up but i forgive Kenny for his actions and in my opinion he wouldn't ever hurt Clem or people he really trusts
How anyone can defend Kenny's actions is beyond me so, there you are, lol. But Ive already said a million times why I am defending Arvo in this case, so you already know my points.
People especially Jane fans will disagree with me here but if Clem was responsible for accidentally killing AJ if this happened, i still don't think Kenny would try and kill Clem. He'd do exactly what he has done in the past and get very angry at her. With Jane, someone he has never trusted or liked, he wouldn't treat her the same way as Clem. That's my opinion
It still doesn't give Kenny the right to try and kill Jane with no proof that she killed AJ except with baseless conjecture.
It only show… mores what would have happened had Clementine, or any other team member in different circumstances, been the one to lose AJ during the blizzard.
I think its because people claim that Kenny is different for what ever reason and isnt psychopathic murderer with mental issues. Too much defending Kenny and not accepting the facts is what i hate about Kenny fans.
Exactly and yet people still want to hate on Kenny just because "sometimes" he is horrible to people when he gets angry, yet they don't see the other side to him. My opinion
Yeah well at least Kenny or any of his crew aren't arrogant/insane enough to start asking anyone he comes across how many walkers and people… more he's killed in a really obnoxious way. I'd have Kenny in my crew over that cocksucker named Rick any day of the week.
I think its because people claim that Kenny is different for what ever reason and isnt psychopathic murderer with mental issues. Too much defending Kenny and not accepting the facts is what i hate about Kenny fans.
Not facts, just opinions actually. You may view his actions as psychotic but i do not and have stated in several other threads why in my opinion. There will always be people with different opinions. You shouldn't hate Kenny fans or anyone for not accepting "opinions" different to you
I think its because people claim that Kenny is different for what ever reason and isnt psychopathic murderer with mental issues. Too much defending Kenny and not accepting the facts is what i hate about Kenny fans.
Its funny when people cant refute an argument and stand off on silly excuses like "im special snowflake, insults hurt me"
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Why would Rick beat up a kid? Only thing that it could possibly do i grant satisfaction for causing harm to another. Rick would just shoot or leave be, beating someone is just pointless.
ps. Kenny can beat Carvo unconscious before Luke even dies, if you pick the right dialogue options. He clearly does it because he enjoys it.
I just told you that I am not new to the universe, but I guess you chose to ignore that so you can continue your insults. Thats fine. I dont continue to deal with people who cant be respectful, so you have a good Christmas.
Rick and most of his crew should be dead, but they are protected by the writers. Hated how the Governor had to be dumbed down in order for him to be defeated by Rick. Loved how most of the Governors crew died and Rick and practically all of his crew magically survived the shootout. Guess you can say the same for Kenny and his crew too though.
I really dont care if people like Kenny just for take sake of it. Either Kenny fans have really changed while ive been gone or you are just special case.
Its funny when people cant refute an argument and stand off on silly excuses like "im special snowflake, insults hurt me"
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Why w… moreould Rick beat up a kid? Only thing that it could possibly do i grant satisfaction for causing harm to another. Rick would just shoot or leave be, beating someone is just pointless.
ps. Kenny can beat Carvo unconscious before Luke even dies, if you pick the right dialogue options. He clearly does it because he enjoys it.
Yes, this is what I meant since Lilly had shown better interaction and provided Clementine protection in Season 1 than selfish Kenny. If it … moreweren't for Kenny and Lee reconciling in Episode 5 (depending on choice), I would have hated Kenny like everyone else.
But you obviously do have a problem with some people liking Kenny otherwise you wouldn't say you hate Kenny fans because their opinions (not facts) are different to yours
I really dont care if people like Kenny just for take sake of it. Either Kenny fans have really changed while ive been gone or you are just special case.
If you are willing to do something as extreme as murder another person without any real evidence, you are crazy. Thats not an opinion. I dont have problem with people rooting for villains but atleast acknowledge that he is a villain. Dont go all anakin skywalker on me.
Some people think that killing nonbelievers is right but surely you wont argue that "its just an opinion that its wrong to do so". I know there arent absolute moral values in universe, but any human would agree that killing someone because they have different opinion is wrong. (if you want to go down this route, you do understand that anything you do can not be viewed as wrong ultimately?)
Not facts, just opinions actually. You may view his actions as psychotic but i do not and have stated in several other threads why in my opi… morenion. There will always be people with different opinions. You shouldn't hate Kenny fans or anyone for not accepting "opinions" different to you
Rick and most of his crew should be dead, but they are protected by the writers. Hated how the Governor had to be dumbed down in order for h… moreim to be defeated by Rick. Loved how most of the Governors crew died and Rick and practically all of his crew magically survived the shootout. Guess you can say the same for Kenny and his crew too though.
Jane was trying to kill him too but of course, people ignore that. Yes there was no evidence but Jane did not have to lie and deliberately rile him up to cause the whole scene. She knew how much he cared about the baby, she fucked with his emotions, of course he was going to get angry. Crazy would be a word to describe most people in a ruined world, but in my opinion Kenny would not do anything to harm the kids. And as far as im concerned, it was just a fight until Jane slashed the knife to him, then it became every man for himself. She was just as crazy for the way she was. Clem determinently said it best, "your fucking crazy, you made me kill my friend, put AJ in danger just to make a point."
My opinion on the matter, i will always be a fan of Kenny. Im not intending to put down your opinion but i disagree.
If you are willing to do something as extreme as murder another person without any real evidence, you are crazy. Thats not an opinion. I don… moret have problem with people rooting for villains but atleast acknowledge that he is a villain. Dont go all anakin skywalker on me.
Some people think that killing nonbelievers is right but surely you wont argue that "its just an opinion that its wrong to do so". I know there arent absolute moral values in universe, but any human would agree that killing someone because they have different opinion is wrong. (if you want to go down this route, you do understand that anything you do can not be viewed as wrong ultimately?)
Because being angry and enjoying it are 2 different things. He has a temper that we have all known for a long time. Arvo insulted him and yeah he probably did take it too far. But if i was held at gunpoint by a bunch of Russian pricks who threatened me and my group and tried to rob us, I wouldn't trust or like Arvo. I would feel exactly the same as Kenny.
Yes there was no evidence but Jane did not have to lie and deliberately rile him up to cause the whole scene.
She did, so Clementine could see how irrational and crazy Kenny can be.
but in my opinion Kenny would not do anything to harm the kids
Except that he might slap Clementine depending on your choices and he was forcing her on suicide trip to the north, hoping to find Wellington, if it was even real?
And as far as im concerned, it was just a fight until Jane slashed the knife to him
Except that he had already stated that he will kill her after assaulting her?
Clem determinently said it best, "your fucking crazy, you made me kill my friend, put AJ in danger just to make a point."
Clem can say a lot of stupid things through out the series.
Jane was trying to kill him too but of course, people ignore that. Yes there was no evidence but Jane did not have to lie and deliberately r… moreile him up to cause the whole scene. She knew how much he cared about the baby, she fucked with his emotions, of course he was going to get angry. Crazy would be a word to describe most people in a ruined world, but in my opinion Kenny would not do anything to harm the kids. And as far as im concerned, it was just a fight until Jane slashed the knife to him, then it became every man for himself. She was just as crazy for the way she was. Clem determinently said it best, "your fucking crazy, you made me kill my friend, put AJ in danger just to make a point."
My opinion on the matter, i will always be a fan of Kenny. Im not intending to put down your opinion but i disagree.
Because being angry and enjoying it are 2 different things. He has a temper that we have all known for a long time. Arvo insulted him and ye… moreah he probably did take it too far. But if i was held at gunpoint by a bunch of Russian pricks who threatened me and my group and tried to rob us, I wouldn't trust or like Arvo. I would feel exactly the same as Kenny.
But she didn't have to do what she did lol! Kenny wasn't a threat to her or Clem/AJ and never would have been if she hadn't of said anything. Jane didn't like the argument in the car with him, she did it because in "my opinion" Jane wanted Clem to go alone with her and leave her friend which by dialogue in the car scene implied she didn't want to leave Kenny. Jane faked a baby's death for god sake and I don't care what people say but that's just messed up.
Might slap her depending on choices? Pardon? Where was this implied? As for Wellington, Kenny even said he knows it might be bullshit but wanted to hope. I actually would have gone back to Howes believe it or not.
I don't agree on everything.
He stated "i'll fucking kill you" after what i believe jane did was squishing his eyes or whatever she was doing. She wanted a fight, she kept provoking him. Anyone trying to defend themselves would say the same thing.
And what Clem said isn't stupid because it is the players choice if you want to be mad with Jane or not. It's not stupid though. Again that's your opinion
Well, correct term is selfdefense.
Yes there was no evidence but Jane did not have to lie and deliberately rile him up to cause the wh… moreole scene.
She did, so Clementine could see how irrational and crazy Kenny can be.
but in my opinion Kenny would not do anything to harm the kids
Except that he might slap Clementine depending on your choices and he was forcing her on suicide trip to the north, hoping to find Wellington, if it was even real?
And as far as im concerned, it was just a fight until Jane slashed the knife to him
Except that he had already stated that he will kill her after assaulting her?
Clem determinently said it best, "your fucking crazy, you made me kill my friend, put AJ in danger just to make a point."
Clem can say a lot of stupid things through out the series.
Yup. In the real world, if he reacted the way he did, even with a high class lawyer, he'd do life, with possibility of parole.
Not sure what Jane would get. Maybe, child endangerment?
Well we don't know for sure, as posted above it's ambiguous, I doubt it would be a sign of turning since his mouth only moves(As far as I can tell) if you do the 4 chest presses in time.
They never ever confirmed Larry was alive. How do we know his mouth twitching giving CPR to him meant he was still alive? What if he was reanimating? He could have been alive or just about to turn.
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I just told you that I am not new to the universe, but I guess you chose to ignore that so you can continue your insults. Thats fine. I dont continue to deal with people who cant be respectful, so you have a good Christmas.
Awwwe, didn't think your feelings would get hurt. In all seriousness and argument aside, have a good Christmas too lol.
To be honest, she still started this mess when it came to AJ. She said she knew how Kenny would react so that's her fault there even if she's right.
It still doesn't give Kenny the right to try and kill Jane with no proof that she killed AJ except with baseless conjecture.
It only shows what would have happened had Clementine, or any other team member in different circumstances, been the one to lose AJ during the blizzard.
You see I don't insult people with different opinions to me or try not to. KCohere is entitled to her opinion but i wouldn't insult her. It just makes people look bad.
I do disagree though, I don't think he enjoyed beating Arvo up, he just didn't like him over the whole Russian shoot out earlier. That's my opinion and i will always stand by that.
Yeah well at least Kenny or any of his crew aren't arrogant/insane enough to start asking anyone he comes across how many walkers and people he's killed in a really obnoxious way. I'd have Kenny in my crew over that cocksucker named Rick any day of the week.
I agree and I think the rest of the team were wrong at least at first. Kenny has got people shooting at him and trying to murder him thanks to Jane and Clementine. The rest of the group are having a go at him for using the guy that started it all as a sheild? After that I didn't care about Arvo either way. I probably wasn't going to kill him, neither would I stand in the way of anyone else trying to kill him.
Yep and as you know that's your opinion as is mine. I would never trust or forgive someone when him and his friends threaten me with a gun. I wouldn't go as far as to do what Kenny did beating him up but i forgive Kenny for his actions and in my opinion he wouldn't ever hurt Clem or people he really trusts
People especially Jane fans will disagree with me here but if Clem was responsible for accidentally killing AJ if this happened, i still don't think Kenny would try and kill Clem. He'd do exactly what he has done in the past and get very angry at her. With Jane, someone he has never trusted or liked, he wouldn't treat her the same way as Clem. That's my opinion
She provoked the fight, she wanted it to happen and she didn't need to cause it. Kenny wouldn't have attacked her otherwise
Then disagree, thats fine but of course i stand by everything i say
I think its because people claim that Kenny is different for what ever reason and isnt psychopathic murderer with mental issues. Too much defending Kenny and not accepting the facts is what i hate about Kenny fans.
You'd be very dead with that kind of attitude.
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Not facts, just opinions actually. You may view his actions as psychotic but i do not and have stated in several other threads why in my opinion. There will always be people with different opinions. You shouldn't hate Kenny fans or anyone for not accepting "opinions" different to you
Its funny when people cant refute an argument and stand off on silly excuses like "im special snowflake, insults hurt me"
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Why would Rick beat up a kid? Only thing that it could possibly do i grant satisfaction for causing harm to another. Rick would just shoot or leave be, beating someone is just pointless.
ps. Kenny can beat Carvo unconscious before Luke even dies, if you pick the right dialogue options. He clearly does it because he enjoys it.
Rick and most of his crew should be dead, but they are protected by the writers. Hated how the Governor had to be dumbed down in order for him to be defeated by Rick. Loved how most of the Governors crew died and Rick and practically all of his crew magically survived the shootout. Guess you can say the same for Kenny and his crew too though.
I really dont care if people like Kenny just for take sake of it. Either Kenny fans have really changed while ive been gone or you are just special case.
Again that's your opinion that he "enjoys" it but in my opinion that doesn't appear that way to me
And yet again, no one is right or wrong because it's not a fact.
Kenny is bad...in your opinion
Hate him like everyone else? You'll find a lot don't hate him at all
But you obviously do have a problem with some people liking Kenny otherwise you wouldn't say you hate Kenny fans because their opinions (not facts) are different to yours
If you are willing to do something as extreme as murder another person without any real evidence, you are crazy. Thats not an opinion. I dont have problem with people rooting for villains but atleast acknowledge that he is a villain. Dont go all anakin skywalker on me.
Some people think that killing nonbelievers is right but surely you wont argue that "its just an opinion that its wrong to do so". I know there arent absolute moral values in universe, but any human would agree that killing someone because they have different opinion is wrong. (if you want to go down this route, you do understand that anything you do can not be viewed as wrong ultimately?)
Well, more like civilized societies opinion, but yeah.
If he doesnt enjoy it, why do it? What is there to gain? Please explain.
You wouldnt have very interesting show with group of intellectual survivalists who dont make silly decisions.
Jane was trying to kill him too but of course, people ignore that. Yes there was no evidence but Jane did not have to lie and deliberately rile him up to cause the whole scene. She knew how much he cared about the baby, she fucked with his emotions, of course he was going to get angry. Crazy would be a word to describe most people in a ruined world, but in my opinion Kenny would not do anything to harm the kids. And as far as im concerned, it was just a fight until Jane slashed the knife to him, then it became every man for himself. She was just as crazy for the way she was. Clem determinently said it best, "your fucking crazy, you made me kill my friend, put AJ in danger just to make a point."
My opinion on the matter, i will always be a fan of Kenny. Im not intending to put down your opinion but i disagree.
Because being angry and enjoying it are 2 different things. He has a temper that we have all known for a long time. Arvo insulted him and yeah he probably did take it too far. But if i was held at gunpoint by a bunch of Russian pricks who threatened me and my group and tried to rob us, I wouldn't trust or like Arvo. I would feel exactly the same as Kenny.
Well, correct term is selfdefense.
She did, so Clementine could see how irrational and crazy Kenny can be.
Except that he might slap Clementine depending on your choices and he was forcing her on suicide trip to the north, hoping to find Wellington, if it was even real?
Except that he had already stated that he will kill her after assaulting her?
Clem can say a lot of stupid things through out the series.
So what exactly is this thing people feel when they vent out their anger? Joy.
where did you get that notion
But she didn't have to do what she did lol! Kenny wasn't a threat to her or Clem/AJ and never would have been if she hadn't of said anything. Jane didn't like the argument in the car with him, she did it because in "my opinion" Jane wanted Clem to go alone with her and leave her friend which by dialogue in the car scene implied she didn't want to leave Kenny. Jane faked a baby's death for god sake and I don't care what people say but that's just messed up.
Might slap her depending on choices? Pardon? Where was this implied? As for Wellington, Kenny even said he knows it might be bullshit but wanted to hope. I actually would have gone back to Howes believe it or not.
I don't agree on everything.
He stated "i'll fucking kill you" after what i believe jane did was squishing his eyes or whatever she was doing. She wanted a fight, she kept provoking him. Anyone trying to defend themselves would say the same thing.
And what Clem said isn't stupid because it is the players choice if you want to be mad with Jane or not. It's not stupid though. Again that's your opinion
Eh some get them likes I guess for others
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Depends on how long she left him in the truck.
How can someone who is angry enjoy doing something? If your angry you are not going to be happy at the same time! Lol. How does that work?
Well we don't know for sure, as posted above it's ambiguous, I doubt it would be a sign of turning since his mouth only moves(As far as I can tell) if you do the 4 chest presses in time.
But in that same we way, they never confirmed Larry wasn't alive.