Really depends on if clem becomes a complete douche or if gabe mans the fuck up.
Right now it would probably be Clem, even though Gabe is family.
Obviously if given the choice, I'd go back and do all the options like I did with the season 2 endings.
God, I would of course save Gabe, not only because I love his character but he is also the newphew (more like a son) of Javi. But I would feel terrible about not saving Clementine.
Depends on multiple variables - the situation, whether I'm fully role-playing as Javier, their past actions and their development but honestly, if they both become determinant, I think we know that they'll both die regardless of our choice.
I think it depends on the situation, i know Javier would likely choose Gabe as he is family but if it came to a choice between the two i would choose Clementine without a doubt.
I don't care of Gabe, I don't know him enough.
I would always choose to save Clementine, I would not let her die after all I did with her, no matter who I have to sacrifice for save his life.
So, like what? If they were both about to fall off a cliff or something and I could only reach one of them? I would pick Gabe just cause he's Javi's blood. I just wish the writers would give me the player more of a reason to pick Gabe, you know? If they did something like; when you're in the junk yard scavenging alone with him, have Gabe kinda be your buddy, helping you solve problems and kill walkers cooperatively, (a bit like with Clem at the train station in season one) that would have gone a long way with making me care about him more.
Clem in a heart beat, I know that wouldn't be the best option for crafting a decent narrative. But I don't care, I'll save Clem over anyone, in my mind its not even a choice at this point.
Clementine. If I saved Gabe because "He's my nephew" I wouldn't feel right. It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes who I don't nearly care about as much as I care for Clementine. I care about Clem, so I pick Clem.
The only way I'd even consider saving Clem over my own nephew (playing as Javi) would be in the event where Gabriel is clearly becoming what David was and/or he becomes a psychotic and starts killing innocents. I can deal with his moody behavior, he's a kid.
Gabe is family, he was prepared to shoot Conrad just for putting hands on you. If the choice did come up, and any of you chose to save Clementine; don't be surprised if telltale decides to continue Javi's story into season 4, and your choice to save Clem didn't matter because she parted ways with you. Apply more sense to your choices, and maybe you'd spend less time on the forum ranting about how they don't matter.
Clementine. If I saved Gabe because "He's my nephew" I wouldn't feel right. It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes who I don't nearly care about as much as I care for Clementine. I care about Clem, so I pick Clem.
Okay, I get that I am playing as Javier. I totally get that. I understand that as Javy I should value his family first. But it's not easy to just throw myself in his shoes when I barely know him. I have nothing to relate to him with, nothing to really make me care about him or his family. So when you throw in someone like Clem that I have known for 4 years, you can't expect me to just treat her differently and automatically treat Javy and his family as if I know them. I know Clem, I don't know Javy.
Shit, there was a 4 year time skip. He could be a terrible person for all we know. But Clem isn't, I know her. Her story is my story. I really wish I knew how to word this better, but as a player who has an emotional attachment to her character, I am going to favor her over anyone else no matter who I am playing as.
This isn't me being stubborn or me being a, what some of you call, a "clem fanatic." I have seen that word thrown around a couple times. If there is anything that Telltale has done perfectly, it's making the players care about Clem unconditionally. I'm not going to stop prioritizing her because we're playing as someone new and it's "the right thing to do." Can't just shut off emotions and attachment like that. This is the vital detail you're overlooking.
If I saved Gabe because "He's my nephew" I wouldn't feel right. It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes
W… morehen you make a choice are the NPC's reacting to the decision you made, or the decision you made as Javier?
You are Javier. That's the vital detail so many on this forum somehow overlook while playing TTG. You aren't yourself, you're the protagonist.
Okay, I get that I am playing as Javier. I totally get that. I understand that as Javy I should value his family first. But it's not easy to just throw myself in his shoes when I barely know him. I have nothing to relate to him with, nothing to really make me care about him or his family. So when you throw in someone like Clem that I have known for 4 years, you can't expect me to just treat her differently and automatically treat Javy and his family as if I know them. I know Clem, I don't know Javy.
Shit, there was a 4 year time skip. He could be a terrible person for all we know. But Clem isn't, I know her. Her story is my story. I really wish I knew how to word this better, but as a player who has an emotional attachment to her character, I am going to favor her over anyone else no matter who I am playing as.
This isn't me being stubborn or me being a, what some of you call, a "clem fanatic." I have seen that word thrown around a couple times. If there is anything that Telltale has done perfectly, it's making the players care about Clem unconditionally. I'm not going to stop prioritizing her because we're playing as someone new and it's "the right thing to do." Can't just shut off emotions and attachment like that. This is the vital detail you're overlooking.
I've played an enjoyed this series the same length of time if not longer than you have. Before it got any press. Day one it was released as a demo on the PS store. I'm not looking over anything. You seem to think I'm criticizing your choice, I'm not. Its yours to make. I criticized your reasoning, which was flawed.
"It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes". You've been doing that since the start of this series. Obviously you overlooked that fact which is why I pointed it out.
Okay, I get that I am playing as Javier. I totally get that. I understand that as Javy I should value his family first. But it's not easy… more to just throw myself in his shoes when I barely know him. I have nothing to relate to him with, nothing to really make me care about him or his family. So when you throw in someone like Clem that I have known for 4 years, you can't expect me to just treat her differently and automatically treat Javy and his family as if I know them. I know Clem, I don't know Javy.
Shit, there was a 4 year time skip. He could be a terrible person for all we know. But Clem isn't, I know her. Her story is my story. I really wish I knew how to word this better, but as a player who has an emotional attachment to her character, I am going to favor her over anyone else no matter who I am playing as.
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"It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes". You've been doing that since the start of this series. Obviously you overlooked that fact which is why I pointed it out.
I assume you're talking about Lee. Thing is, I actually knew Lee's story. A lot of people knew Lee's story and we got to have our own thoughts and opinions on it. At least a hell of a lot more than Javier's. I don't know a damn thing about Javier's story besides the most recent couple days in the apocalypse and day one of the outbreak. That's hardly anything compared to Lee or Clem. Has Javier had to sacrifice anything? Has he had to murder people? Did he ever have to lie to his loved ones to keep them safe? Did he ever put his own life in Jeopardy to care for someone else besides his family? I don't know. For all I know, they've been driving around in an RV for 4 years. Trust me, I want to care about Javy and his family. I really want to be involved with their story to the point where I can really put myself in his shoes. But as of now I can't. I'm looking forward to Telltale somehow proving me otherwise in the future. I hope they do.
I've played an enjoyed this series the same length of time if not longer than you have. Before it got any press. Day one it was released as a demo on the PS store. I'm not looking over anything.
Congrats, so have I. Doesn't mean anything though. My point is, some of us can't easily put ourselves in other peoples shoes unlike you. If its easy for you then congrats, you're lucky. And our reasoning isn't flawed. If Telltale did a magnificent job at making us care about the character and we are having a difficult time going against that said character, there is nothing flawed about that.
Okay, I get that I am playing as Javier. I totally get that. I understand that as Javy I should value his family first. But it's not easy to… more just throw myself in his shoes when I barely know him. I have nothing to relate to him with, nothing to really make me care about him or his family. So when you throw in someone like Clem that I have known for 4 years, you can't expect me to just treat her differently and automatically treat Javy and his family as if I know them. I know Clem, I don't know Javy.
Shit, there was a 4 year time skip. He could be a terrible person for all we know. But Clem isn't, I know her. Her story is my story. I really wish I knew how to word this better, but as a player who has an emotional attachment to her character, I am going to favor her over anyone else no matter who I am playing as.
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Unconditionally, at this point in time, Gabe.
I don't even think Clementine would be in a position to blame you for doing so.
Really depends on if clem becomes a complete douche or if gabe mans the fuck up.
Right now it would probably be Clem, even though Gabe is family.
Obviously if given the choice, I'd go back and do all the options like I did with the season 2 endings.
If i'm playing as Javier? My nephew without a second thought.
God, I would of course save Gabe, not only because I love his character but he is also the newphew (more like a son) of Javi. But I would feel terrible about not saving Clementine.
Clem lol. I mean I understand that Javier's character would save Gabe, but it's my choice not his.
Thats my answer as well
Clem... Wouldn't even need to think about it.
Mari!
Depends on multiple variables - the situation, whether I'm fully role-playing as Javier, their past actions and their development but honestly, if they both become determinant, I think we know that they'll both die regardless of our choice.
Yeah I know it's Javier and obviously if we weren't playing as him he would save Gabe but I'm saving Clementine lol, fuck that I ain't losing my baby
I'd prefer to save Clem, but since we're playing as Javier I'd save Gabe.
i will choose to save my clemy-cloo
Im wondering how high the stat to save clementine would go, at least 90%, though likely 98+%
I think it depends on the situation, i know Javier would likely choose Gabe as he is family but if it came to a choice between the two i would choose Clementine without a doubt.
Almost certainly Gabe.
I'd ragequit and come to the forums to rant about how much bs would that choice be.
It better be like Saving Catwoman or Harvey Dent
Clem in a heartbeat.
I don't care of Gabe, I don't know him enough.
I would always choose to save Clementine, I would not let her die after all I did with her, no matter who I have to sacrifice for save his life.
So, like what? If they were both about to fall off a cliff or something and I could only reach one of them? I would pick Gabe just cause he's Javi's blood. I just wish the writers would give me the player more of a reason to pick Gabe, you know? If they did something like; when you're in the junk yard scavenging alone with him, have Gabe kinda be your buddy, helping you solve problems and kill walkers cooperatively, (a bit like with Clem at the train station in season one) that would have gone a long way with making me care about him more.
I will choose Clem. I do not like Gabe (yet). He is pretty annoying.
Since playing as Javi it'd make sense to save Gabe, but... I am a seasoned player and I would save Clementine in a heartbeat.
Clem in a heart beat, I know that wouldn't be the best option for crafting a decent narrative. But I don't care, I'll save Clem over anyone, in my mind its not even a choice at this point.
Clementine. If I saved Gabe because "He's my nephew" I wouldn't feel right. It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes who I don't nearly care about as much as I care for Clementine. I care about Clem, so I pick Clem.
The only way I'd even consider saving Clem over my own nephew (playing as Javi) would be in the event where Gabriel is clearly becoming what David was and/or he becomes a psychotic and starts killing innocents. I can deal with his moody behavior, he's a kid.
Gabe is family, he was prepared to shoot Conrad just for putting hands on you. If the choice did come up, and any of you chose to save Clementine; don't be surprised if telltale decides to continue Javi's story into season 4, and your choice to save Clem didn't matter because she parted ways with you. Apply more sense to your choices, and maybe you'd spend less time on the forum ranting about how they don't matter.
"..." [Let the timer ran out]
There's probably that third option where we don't do anything and we die along with them...
So... that choice for canned laughter...
Clementine. Easy.
CLEMENTINE
Clementine, forever and always.
When you make a choice are the NPC's reacting to the decision you made, or the decision you made as Javier?
You are Javier. That's the vital detail so many on this forum somehow overlook while playing TTG. You aren't yourself, you're the protagonist.
I'd save Clementine even if I seemed like a dick later. I can imagine the look on David's face.(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/9/93/David_García.png/revision/latest?cb=20161220153816)
Yeah!
It'd be Gabe in a heartbeat if I were thinking what Javier would do. Problem is that I just couldn't let Clementine die.
Goddamn, and I was prepared to start reading people's arguments, now I just feel like blindly supporting Clem again xD
Effective.
Okay, I get that I am playing as Javier. I totally get that. I understand that as Javy I should value his family first. But it's not easy to just throw myself in his shoes when I barely know him. I have nothing to relate to him with, nothing to really make me care about him or his family. So when you throw in someone like Clem that I have known for 4 years, you can't expect me to just treat her differently and automatically treat Javy and his family as if I know them. I know Clem, I don't know Javy.
Shit, there was a 4 year time skip. He could be a terrible person for all we know. But Clem isn't, I know her. Her story is my story. I really wish I knew how to word this better, but as a player who has an emotional attachment to her character, I am going to favor her over anyone else no matter who I am playing as.
This isn't me being stubborn or me being a, what some of you call, a "clem fanatic." I have seen that word thrown around a couple times. If there is anything that Telltale has done perfectly, it's making the players care about Clem unconditionally. I'm not going to stop prioritizing her because we're playing as someone new and it's "the right thing to do." Can't just shut off emotions and attachment like that. This is the vital detail you're overlooking.
.... I... I CAN'T FUCKING CHOOSE! ;__;
I've played an enjoyed this series the same length of time if not longer than you have. Before it got any press. Day one it was released as a demo on the PS store. I'm not looking over anything. You seem to think I'm criticizing your choice, I'm not. Its yours to make. I criticized your reasoning, which was flawed.
"It would be forcing myself to put myself in another person's shoes". You've been doing that since the start of this series. Obviously you overlooked that fact which is why I pointed it out.
I assume you're talking about Lee. Thing is, I actually knew Lee's story. A lot of people knew Lee's story and we got to have our own thoughts and opinions on it. At least a hell of a lot more than Javier's. I don't know a damn thing about Javier's story besides the most recent couple days in the apocalypse and day one of the outbreak. That's hardly anything compared to Lee or Clem. Has Javier had to sacrifice anything? Has he had to murder people? Did he ever have to lie to his loved ones to keep them safe? Did he ever put his own life in Jeopardy to care for someone else besides his family? I don't know. For all I know, they've been driving around in an RV for 4 years. Trust me, I want to care about Javy and his family. I really want to be involved with their story to the point where I can really put myself in his shoes. But as of now I can't. I'm looking forward to Telltale somehow proving me otherwise in the future. I hope they do.
Congrats, so have I. Doesn't mean anything though. My point is, some of us can't easily put ourselves in other peoples shoes unlike you. If its easy for you then congrats, you're lucky. And our reasoning isn't flawed. If Telltale did a magnificent job at making us care about the character and we are having a difficult time going against that said character, there is nothing flawed about that.
If I absolutely have to choose between then I'll choose Clem. I'll feel sorry about Gabe though since I want to help him too.
Gabe. I'd make choices that made sense for Javier.