People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something entirely from nothing.
Personally I don't write fanfiction nor original work because I simply can't write for shit, but if someone decides it's a valuable and fun way to spend their time, so be it. If you don't like fanfiction, don't read it.
Sorry for the wall of text, I have a whole lot of thoughts about this subject. I should also mention, as a disclaimer, that this isn't targeted at anyone, this is just me noticing a trend that's started on the forums, and questioning it a little. This shouldn't be taken as me being aggressive or annoyed, I'm just mostly quizzical. And maybe a bit confused.
Okay, wow, that's a really good question!
As someone who writes Fanfiction as way to pass the time, it's pretty awesome to see. I do, however, wish people would just sort of do it quietly, if that makes sense?
For example, when I first started writing back in August of 2016, I didn't make a huge song and dance out of it. I just made an account, wrote my first story, and uploaded it. But with the premier of A New Frontier, people seem to be making a huge brouhaha out of writing their own rendition, claiming they can do so much better and just need the motivation to do it. Which is cool, great! More power to you!
But my main gripes are that:
Being painfully honest, a lot of the stories about the "The New Frontier" are poorly written. Characters flip flopping, saying silly things, about sixty five million "because plot" moments in the bat of an eyelid. One had Clementine get killed by David using Lucille. Yup. Not even joking. (The author took it off the site, else I'd link it.)
Nothing's being said with these retellings. One of them had the exact same things happening, yet had the huevos to claim it was their own story.
If you want to write Fanfiction, I applaud you. It's a cool thing to do, in my opinion, and I've made friends with some genuinely great people through doing it. It's a great way to practice being a writer, I feel, because it lets you get feedback from fellow readers all over the world. Hell, I've been steadily improving ever since I started, and I'm slowly getting confidence in myself as a person because I feel I finally have an ace up my sleeve. Admittedly, a bit of a dodgy ace, but still. Shrugs.
Again, I could just be complaining about nothing, but I feel the sudden influx of people asking for motivation to write is just a bit... irksome? I dunno. I do want to see people writing Fanfiction, 'cause there isn't a lot of good stuff to read - it's very much a case of finding diamonds in the rough, whenever I see a good story - so it's nice to see people who really care about the fandom they're writing for, but I wish people wouldn't make such a big deal out of it, heh. Just, y'know, do it. It's shown on the site people will go to to read Fanfiction, so I don't really get all the commotion.
Going back to myself, here's the process I had, from when I came up with the idea for my story to when I published it, way back in August.
I had the idea for my first story, while I was thinking about my first playthrough of the games and the decisions I made.
I wrote the idea while I made an account for the website I chose to upload to.
I waited until I was allowed to upload a story, and proof read what I had.
I uploaded it.
I didn't make a song and dance out of it, I just did it because I was passionate about writing something to share with the fandom. I didn't get someone to talk me into it, I just did it. It was really scary, but it's also an experience I'm ultimately really glad I did. Hell, I'll say it, one of my best friends is someone I talk to every day now because I started writing.
If you have an idea to share, then do it! Anyone can tell a story, it's what humans are best at. We do it everyday - that rude bank teller you encountered, or the way the price of milk has gone up, or maybe how horrible the traffic was on the way into work. Humans are just naturally good at it. So if you have an idea for a story, I implore you to give it a try. I really don't see why people are making such a fuss about starting to write, though.
TL;DR - I like the idea of it, I just think people should maybe not make such a big fuss about starting their writing "careers" online.
People can do whatever they want, if they want to make their own stories they have that right. But fan fiction is all they are, the true story is telltale's. The only canon events are those that happen in their story.
As long as we all understand that, everyone should feel free to write away.
While I hope that is the case, chances are there might be at least one element that could've been done differently. In fact, one existing scene that comes to mind is the hostage situation in the subway.
People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something entirely from nothing.
People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something … moreentirely from nothing.
Personally I don't write fanfiction nor original work because I simply can't write for shit, but if someone decides it's a valuable and fun way to spend their time, so be it. If you don't like fanfiction, don't read it.
Still, throughout much of Seasson 2 Wellington was a point of emphasis. I would even make the argument that getting there was the main goal except for those who went with Jane at the end. The fact that Telltale just so easily crapped on it as if it was nothing makes me wonder how seriously Telltale really takes their storylines.
The feels indeed. Been almost a month and I still try to block out what happened with Jane.
I just don't understand.
I'm upset at the… more passing of Carley, Chuck, Omid and all of the Cabin Group but this one female...because I feel she and me are a lot alike. With the gruff demeanor and not very social, but caring (the choice with hiding AJ notwithstanding). Plus, I defended her tooth and nail in the past, and what happened. That was what my faith rewarded me?
People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something … moreentirely from nothing.
So much truth in this sentence.
Probably the Season 2 writers' thought as well.-
I don't see the issue with it honestly. I wrote one of my own for Season 2 as well as a prequel semi novel of it. I think it shows care and … moreinterest in it if they're willing to write fanfiction. Writing your own version of it doesn't mean you dislike it
I can see were you get that feeling from, but some people just had their own idea of how they wanted the season, so they went ahead wrote their own version. Most of the time, they do like this season, or are at least giving it a chance.
People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something … moreentirely from nothing.
Personally I don't write fanfiction nor original work because I simply can't write for shit, but if someone decides it's a valuable and fun way to spend their time, so be it. If you don't like fanfiction, don't read it.
They say that because its the only flashback (besides alone) where you don't have to witness Kenny/Jane die in such a pathetic way. Storytelling wise, though, I could make the argument its one of the worse.
I do agree with you on some people needing to be a bit more quiet about writing their own. Also, I understand what you mean by the fan-fiction - that I've seen so far - for ANF being really bad.
(But was there really one with David using Lucille? Like really?)
Sorry for the wall of text, I have a whole lot of thoughts about this subject. I should also mention, as a disclaimer, that this isn't targe… moreted at anyone, this is just me noticing a trend that's started on the forums, and questioning it a little. This shouldn't be taken as me being aggressive or annoyed, I'm just mostly quizzical. And maybe a bit confused.
Okay, wow, that's a really good question!
As someone who writes Fanfiction as way to pass the time, it's pretty awesome to see. I do, however, wish people would just sort of do it quietly, if that makes sense?
For example, when I first started writing back in August of 2016, I didn't make a huge song and dance out of it. I just made an account, wrote my first story, and uploaded it. But with the premier of A New Frontier, people seem to be making a huge brouhaha out of writing their own rendition, claiming they can do so much better and just need the motivation to do it. Which is c… [view original content]
I find it to be okay if fan-fiction writers find their work to be canon to them, however trying to make it canon to everyone else? Now that's a different.
People can do whatever they want, if they want to make their own stories they have that right. But fan fiction is all they are, the true sto… morery is telltale's. The only canon events are those that happen in their story.
As long as we all understand that, everyone should feel free to write away.
As a namedrop from Christa as to where she and Clementine were going
As an actual description from Kenny during dinner with Clementine, Luke, and Nick, essentially giving him a motivational advantage to go with his others
When Kenny calls Clementine to help him work on Arvo's truck
During an argument with Mike and Jane about where they're gonna go
During a conversation with Clementine in the truck afterwards
I think during his argument with Jane in the truck
Determinately as part of his last words
During both the actual Wellington ending and the stay with Kenny ending, since they've found it and are right outside of it
If it was truly the main goal, Kenny would've brought it up during Amid the Ruins while arguing with Luke about what to do about Rebecca and the baby.
Still, throughout much of Seasson 2 Wellington was a point of emphasis. I would even make the argument that getting there was the main goal … moreexcept for those who went with Jane at the end. The fact that Telltale just so easily crapped on it as if it was nothing makes me wonder how seriously Telltale really takes their storylines.
They say that because its the only flashback (besides alone) where you don't have to witness Kenny/Jane die in such a pathetic way. Storytelling wise, though, I could make the argument its one of the worse.
If I'm not mistaken, Kenny wanted to leave ASAP and keep heading north. I can only assume to find Wellington, right? I believe Wellington was mentioned in every episode except 'In Harm's Way', so I do think it was determinantly one of the main goals of Season 2. Even if not, the fact that Telltale kept building it up as a potential integral part of the story should have at least guaranteed it a better finish that that anti-climatic ending in S3.
From what I recall, Wellington was "emphasized":
* As a namedrop from Christa as to where she and Clementine were going
* As an actual… more description from Kenny during dinner with Clementine, Luke, and Nick, essentially giving him a motivational advantage to go with his others
* When Kenny calls Clementine to help him work on Arvo's truck
* During an argument with Mike and Jane about where they're gonna go
* During a conversation with Clementine in the truck afterwards
* I think during his argument with Jane in the truck
* Determinately as part of his last words
* During both the actual Wellington ending and the stay with Kenny ending, since they've found it and are right outside of it
If it was truly the main goal, Kenny would've brought it up during Amid the Ruins while arguing with Luke about what to do about Rebecca and the baby.
Good point. Still, Edith said they were way over capacity yet somehow in S3 they were so vulnerable that a group of bandits managed to bring the whole place down. I just wish sometimes Telltale wouldn't include unnecessary in the story if they have no clue what to do with it. It can be quite frustrating.
Good point. Still, Edith said they were way over capacity yet somehow in S3 they were so vulnerable that a group of bandits managed to bring… more the whole place down. I just wish sometimes Telltale wouldn't include unnecessary in the story if they have no clue what to do with it. It can be quite frustrating.
It's a shame really. Even now I look back on Season 2 and I wonder "What did we really accomplish?" Other than bringing AJ into the fold it did little to advance Clementine's story. Jane and Kenny are gone and Wellington was a farse.
Still, Edith said they were way over capacity yet somehow in S3 they were so vulnerable that a group of bandits managed to bring the whole place down.
My point exactly. Even Edith's death and Clementine's bullet wound was kinda like "really?"
I know, and like I said, I just tend to not understand. But I do try to, that's one of the main reasons of this thread to be honest. Hearing people's opinions and, if I don't understand them, I'll ask them to explain.
EDIT: P.S. I believe I could have worded my previous comment better (maybe by saying I don't understand why people dislike it, instead of saying I don't understand why people don'tlike it) and, hopefully, you don't think that I was referring to you in anyway.
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People find writing fanfiction so appealing because it is much easier to modify something to suit your preferences than to create something entirely from nothing.
Personally I don't write fanfiction nor original work because I simply can't write for shit, but if someone decides it's a valuable and fun way to spend their time, so be it. If you don't like fanfiction, don't read it.
Sorry for the wall of text, I have a whole lot of thoughts about this subject. I should also mention, as a disclaimer, that this isn't targeted at anyone, this is just me noticing a trend that's started on the forums, and questioning it a little. This shouldn't be taken as me being aggressive or annoyed, I'm just mostly quizzical. And maybe a bit confused.
Okay, wow, that's a really good question!
As someone who writes Fanfiction as way to pass the time, it's pretty awesome to see. I do, however, wish people would just sort of do it quietly, if that makes sense?
For example, when I first started writing back in August of 2016, I didn't make a huge song and dance out of it. I just made an account, wrote my first story, and uploaded it. But with the premier of A New Frontier, people seem to be making a huge brouhaha out of writing their own rendition, claiming they can do so much better and just need the motivation to do it. Which is cool, great! More power to you!
But my main gripes are that:
Being painfully honest, a lot of the stories about the "The New Frontier" are poorly written. Characters flip flopping, saying silly things, about sixty five million "because plot" moments in the bat of an eyelid. One had Clementine get killed by David using Lucille. Yup. Not even joking. (The author took it off the site, else I'd link it.)
Nothing's being said with these retellings. One of them had the exact same things happening, yet had the huevos to claim it was their own story.
If you want to write Fanfiction, I applaud you. It's a cool thing to do, in my opinion, and I've made friends with some genuinely great people through doing it. It's a great way to practice being a writer, I feel, because it lets you get feedback from fellow readers all over the world. Hell, I've been steadily improving ever since I started, and I'm slowly getting confidence in myself as a person because I feel I finally have an ace up my sleeve. Admittedly, a bit of a dodgy ace, but still. Shrugs.
Again, I could just be complaining about nothing, but I feel the sudden influx of people asking for motivation to write is just a bit... irksome? I dunno. I do want to see people writing Fanfiction, 'cause there isn't a lot of good stuff to read - it's very much a case of finding diamonds in the rough, whenever I see a good story - so it's nice to see people who really care about the fandom they're writing for, but I wish people wouldn't make such a big deal out of it, heh. Just, y'know, do it. It's shown on the site people will go to to read Fanfiction, so I don't really get all the commotion.
Going back to myself, here's the process I had, from when I came up with the idea for my story to when I published it, way back in August.
I had the idea for my first story, while I was thinking about my first playthrough of the games and the decisions I made.
I wrote the idea while I made an account for the website I chose to upload to.
I waited until I was allowed to upload a story, and proof read what I had.
I uploaded it.
I didn't make a song and dance out of it, I just did it because I was passionate about writing something to share with the fandom. I didn't get someone to talk me into it, I just did it. It was really scary, but it's also an experience I'm ultimately really glad I did. Hell, I'll say it, one of my best friends is someone I talk to every day now because I started writing.
If you have an idea to share, then do it! Anyone can tell a story, it's what humans are best at. We do it everyday - that rude bank teller you encountered, or the way the price of milk has gone up, or maybe how horrible the traffic was on the way into work. Humans are just naturally good at it. So if you have an idea for a story, I implore you to give it a try. I really don't see why people are making such a fuss about starting to write, though.
TL;DR - I like the idea of it, I just think people should maybe not make such a big fuss about starting their writing "careers" online.
People can do whatever they want, if they want to make their own stories they have that right. But fan fiction is all they are, the true story is telltale's. The only canon events are those that happen in their story.
As long as we all understand that, everyone should feel free to write away.
Personally I really hate fanfictions but I'm not going to stop anyone from doing it especially if it makes them feel better.
To be fair, Wellington was arbitrary to begin with, while Kenny and Jane were main characters that received heavy focus.
While I hope that is the case, chances are there might be at least one element that could've been done differently. In fact, one existing scene that comes to mind is the hostage situation in the subway.
So much truth in this sentence.
Probably the Season 2 writers' thought as well.-
Still, throughout much of Seasson 2 Wellington was a point of emphasis. I would even make the argument that getting there was the main goal except for those who went with Jane at the end. The fact that Telltale just so easily crapped on it as if it was nothing makes me wonder how seriously Telltale really takes their storylines.
Oh I wrote up a whole thing explaining why it made sense to me...but I understand your grief. We will get through this together.
WoW FUCKING BRUTAL BURN!!! But yeah...those guys should be pushing broom handles somewhere far away from a computer screen.
Yeah, I had assumed I did. My apologies, man.
I've already seen a handful that are better than the actual game.
Thank you. I hope so. For all the guff fans have given her, I feel I was only one of a few who respected and liked her.
I won't judge. Years ago, guy I worked with wrote new bible. He smoked too much back then. Anyway, I had fun reading it.
Was it? All I ever heard about the Wellington one was that it was better than Kenny and Jane's.
Sadly, some people get the wrong idea when you write something your own way and think you didn't like the original, but, usually, it's the opposite.
I can see were you get that feeling from, but some people just had their own idea of how they wanted the season, so they went ahead wrote their own version. Most of the time, they do like this season, or are at least giving it a chance.
Is that a fact?
That's actually a great way to put it!
They say that because its the only flashback (besides alone) where you don't have to witness Kenny/Jane die in such a pathetic way. Storytelling wise, though, I could make the argument its one of the worse.
I do agree with you on some people needing to be a bit more quiet about writing their own. Also, I understand what you mean by the fan-fiction - that I've seen so far - for ANF being really bad.
(But was there really one with David using Lucille? Like really?)
I find it to be okay if fan-fiction writers find their work to be canon to them, however trying to make it canon to everyone else? Now that's a different.
You the first person on here to actually say hate it, I'd you don't mind, could you explain why?
Does his new bible talk about the infamous pink elephant? If it doesn't I'll be highly disappointed.
Hm, I'm see that a lot of people don't really mind.
I tend not to understand why people don't like it, like you say it's harmless.
100%. Doesn't take much to treat the those two characters like actual characters instead of like shit.
From what I recall, Wellington was "emphasized":
If it was truly the main goal, Kenny would've brought it up during Amid the Ruins while arguing with Luke about what to do about Rebecca and the baby.
I think what you're talking about is called, fanfiction XD
Yeah, really the problem with it is that its incredibly arbitrary considering what we knew about it vs. what we see about it.
Or at the very least, have learned from the reception and/or have a committee of people who can tell them "No."
Do you mean fanfictions?! It's funny! Not good at all, but funny.
If I'm not mistaken, Kenny wanted to leave ASAP and keep heading north. I can only assume to find Wellington, right? I believe Wellington was mentioned in every episode except 'In Harm's Way', so I do think it was determinantly one of the main goals of Season 2. Even if not, the fact that Telltale kept building it up as a potential integral part of the story should have at least guaranteed it a better finish that that anti-climatic ending in S3.
Good point. Still, Edith said they were way over capacity yet somehow in S3 they were so vulnerable that a group of bandits managed to bring the whole place down. I just wish sometimes Telltale wouldn't include unnecessary in the story if they have no clue what to do with it. It can be quite frustrating.
My point exactly. Even Edith's death and Clementine's bullet wound was kinda like "really?"
Care to share some of them for me to view?
It's better than the actual game, I'll tell you that.
It's a shame really. Even now I look back on Season 2 and I wonder "What did we really accomplish?" Other than bringing AJ into the fold it did little to advance Clementine's story. Jane and Kenny are gone and Wellington was a farse.
Well Twilight is harmless too. Some people just don't like it.
I know, and like I said, I just tend to not understand. But I do try to, that's one of the main reasons of this thread to be honest. Hearing people's opinions and, if I don't understand them, I'll ask them to explain.
EDIT: P.S. I believe I could have worded my previous comment better (maybe by saying I don't understand why people dislike it, instead of saying I don't understand why people don't like it) and, hopefully, you don't think that I was referring to you in anyway.