He's that typical annoying teenage boy with puberty-issues so far. If he changes a lot within the next episodes, fine. Otherwise I won't magically start to like him.
Let's also not forget that his sister was killed right in front of him, after that he asked Javier to help him become a man quick, this show… mores he's attempting to take responsibility for others, that's an important sign that he's growing up faster than other teens. He seems to express himself a lot more with his sister who was likely his outlet. I'm surprised he didn't break. I think his interaction with Clem could be a good thing because she could fill that void he has when he lost his sister. Not a lot of kids his age could be around.
The main difference is that that character archetype no longer has any plausibility in the kind of world The Walking Dead has transformed into any more.
If I were playing a choice-driven game about 'surviving' the first days of high school in an anime game, then his relentlessly brooding and whining character archetype would feel much more comforting with that kind of thematic tone. But Gabe is suppose to be in a post-apocalyptic world that has been under walker tyranny for many years. So him not being able to hold a gun steady, still showing no reliable traits in the face of adversity, and on and on makes him seem not just weak or scarred... it makes him seem ill-fitted to be in a game like The Walking Dead.
And I know it's all to make us want to watch out for someone that is meeker and less prepared then we are, but I find that reasoning to be slightly insulting to my intelligence. That we as gamers are all blasé and indifferent to a character until they whine scene after scene is a horrible excuse to defend the little pussy by.
He's that typical annoying teenage boy with puberty-issues so far. If he changes a lot within the next episodes, fine. Otherwise I won't magically start to like him.
He doesn't seem like a pussy, he seems to be more willing to accept the zombie apocalypse and what it entails to me. I'm saying he would get bullied but he wouldn't just sit there and take it.
I don't hate him... tbh I only ever truly disliked him in episode 1. I found him to be whiny, always doing more harm than good (e.g. Kate's surgery, eating the pudding and insisting on staying in a home that was obviously occupied), etc. which was only highlighted in front of Mariana's maturity despite her younger age.
He's grown on me now. I have high hopes for him. I can't even fault him for trying to shoot Conrad(?) when he threatens Javi, because my Javi can be quite trigger happy and impulsive when defending his family, so in a way he's following what he's seen his uncle doing for four-five years.
I don't understand where all this worry is coming about regarding Clem and Gabe. Besides the one line of dialogue they share in Ep 2, what is the evidence that he has a crush on her?
He was beating himself up about it something fierce, is found overkilling a walker outside the gate otherwise, and even draws on Conrad when he starts getting aggressive towards Javier. It definitely bothered him.
I don't hate him... tbh I only ever truly disliked him in episode 1. I found him to be whiny, always doing more harm than good (e.g. Kate's … moresurgery, eating the pudding and insisting on staying in a home that was obviously occupied), etc. which was only highlighted in front of Mariana's maturity despite her younger age.
He's grown on me now. I have high hopes for him. I can't even fault him for trying to shoot Conrad(?) when he threatens Javi, because my Javi can be quite trigger happy and impulsive when defending his family, so in a way he's following what he's seen his uncle doing for four-five years.
I don't understand where all this worry is coming about regarding Clem and Gabe. Besides the one line of dialogue they share in Ep 2, what is the evidence that he has a crush on her?
He is a whiny little bitch, the typical annoying teenager, probably the new Ben or the new Nick of season 3, even Clementine has more balls than him. I always keep wondering how is it that people like him survived that long in the apocalypse and other people, braver, tougher, smarter didn't
, still showing no reliable traits in the face of adversity,
He hides with Kate when Max captures Javier, gets her out of the line of fire when she gets shot, wants to help with Kate's bullet wound, is seen taking out his anger on a walker he may have killed himself, states his intention to not just stand around anymore whether Javier wants him too or not, draws on Conrad when he gets aggressive towards Javier in his grief, knows the meaning of warning shots if you don't talk him down, helps Clementine hold the subway door while Javier finds something to block it, urges Javier to shoot Conrad when taken hostage, and determinately calls him out for selling out Clementine.
What do you classify as a reliable trait?
The main difference is that that character archetype no longer has any plausibility in the kind of world The Walking Dead has transformed in… moreto any more.
If I were playing a choice-driven game about 'surviving' the first days of high school in an anime game, then his relentlessly brooding and whining character archetype would feel much more comforting with that kind of thematic tone. But Gabe is suppose to be in a post-apocalyptic world that has been under walker tyranny for many years. So him not being able to hold a gun steady, still showing no reliable traits in the face of adversity, and on and on makes him seem not just weak or scarred... it makes him seem ill-fitted to be in a game like The Walking Dead.
And I know it's all to make us want to watch out for someone that is meeker and less prepared then we are, but I find that reasoning to be slightly insulting to my intelligence. That we as gamers are all blasé and indifferent to a … [view original content]
Clementine is kind, helpful, community driven, morals high
I'm sorry, but are you & I playing the same third season of this game?... While first two points can at least be debated about, "community driven" is just straight up wrong — she's the typical loner type in s3. Same about high morals — she is just surviving, what exactly are the "high morals" of this? In season 1 & 2 she could be described like that, but from where I stand, it isn't true any longer.
I still don't see why people will think Gabe and Clem will ever be a thing, their personalities are a huge difference, Clem isn't open to al… moremost any type of relationship it seems right now, it does appear she's warming up to Javier as a friend though. Gabe is immature, an edgelord, a liability, and he's honestly just a horrible survivor. Clementine is kind, helpful, community driven, morals high, intelligent, and can manage herself. I hope you see why many people wouldn't want that relationship occurring, or the mere thought of it. It won't happen, good, but other than the whole disgusting relationship notion, I honestly just hate Gabe as a character for the reasons listed previously. Hopefully he dies by the end of the season. If Clem gets in an actual relationship, I doubt it'll happen this season, and they better make it someone we actually think would be a good match, not some annoying teen who can't even earn his respect.
I certainly appreciate the way people hate a teenager for having typical teenager problems, I mean, that is the shit, no jokes here. It's also rather nice how, maybe, five minutes of positive interaction between characters are enough to say there is a crush going on here, but even if it does... Let's just say, I hope that people, who say that they'd leave him to die if he was crushing on Clem (I saw people say that) never have a teenage daughter of their own. Like, I know they think they are being protective, but they are just cringeworthy as all hell. The whole "she is too pure to get involved in romance" mentality is cringeworthy. Fucking let the two of them decide how things should be between them, alright?...
I love Gabe. He is one of my favorite characters in this season, because he is actually going through development & has issues in his own unique way that I can't remember any other character of this game depicting. The game has made me invested in him & worried about him, worried about the possibility of him getting hurt, or being influenced by others in a way that'll be harmful for him (DAVID). I'm looking forward to seeing more of him & I hope that I, as Javi, will be able to provide him with a good role model.
What? No... Gabe hes a great guy, great personality, brings a lot of positivity, sex icon (just like his dad, no wonder David got Kate) clementine starting to feel it too, in other words most handsome character in the game a part from David. XDDDDDDDDD
Not running out of an ongoing life-saving procedure like a spaz after nearly killing a woman from using a harmful chemical in her wound, not pointing said gun at a man because of an argument and then having to be methodically talked down to lowering the shaking weapon, not crying and complaining because of a decision to leave behind a very-likely occupied and dangerous area, not talking and acting like as if he's always got some major issue with the fact he's an inexperienced child who wants to be more helpful but doesn't want people helping him to be that helpful young man.
And quite a few of those examples aren't even pertinent to what you used as your quoted retort...
urges Javier to shoot Conrad when taken hostage, and determinately calls him out for selling out Clementine
What do those have to do with being reliable? Urging Javier to kill a man who is obviously mentally unstable and stupid, most likely having an itchy trigger finger doesn't strike me exactly as "reliable." And getting mad cause his little crush got sold out is about the same level of emotional instability I'd come to expect from the kid who ran off because stoner babe said something he didn't like. It doesn't make him reliable though, it makes him obnoxious.
, still showing no reliable traits in the face of adversity,
He hides with Kate when Max captures Javier, gets her out of the line o… moref fire when she gets shot, wants to help with Kate's bullet wound, is seen taking out his anger on a walker he may have killed himself, states his intention to not just stand around anymore whether Javier wants him too or not, draws on Conrad when he gets aggressive towards Javier in his grief, knows the meaning of warning shots if you don't talk him down, helps Clementine hold the subway door while Javier finds something to block it, urges Javier to shoot Conrad when taken hostage, and determinately calls him out for selling out Clementine.
What do you classify as a reliable trait?
Gabe's your typical teenager going through puberty (because we definitely need more of these type of characters in this game, it's not enough that we see 'em on TV) that just so happens to be in a 4 year apocalypse...
What the hell is going on with all this sudden indirect sexualization of Clementine?
Clementine "feels it" cause of whining baby being a "sex icon" is only slightly less weird than the gross era of season 2's talk of Clem being with Luke because of his supposed attractiveness.
What? No... Gabe hes a great guy, great personality, brings a lot of positivity, sex icon (just like his dad, no wonder David got Kate) clem… moreentine starting to feel it too, in other words most handsome character in the game a part from David. XDDDDDDDDD
Did I forget anything?
Its not really obsession with clementine in particular, the obsession is with "shipping", literally its the new thing younger gamers are obsessed with. Fanbases are absolutley obsessed with them
clementine starting to feel it too
What the hell is going on with all this sudden indirect sexualization of Clementine?
Clementin… moree "feels it" cause of whining baby being a "sex icon" is only slightly less weird than the gross era of season 2's talk of Clem being with Luke because of his supposed attractiveness.
...Even if there's absolutely no connection other then them both being relatively the same age.
I suppose every cataclysmic, depressing, melancholic, oppressively toned game needs to be disgustingly romanticized so that people can easily rationalize the harsher elements of the plot.
Its not really obsession with clementine in particular, the obsession is with "shipping", literally its the new thing younger gamers are obsessed with. Fanbases are absolutley obsessed with them
...Even if there's absolutely no connection other then them both being relatively the same age.
I suppose every cataclysmic, depressing, … moremelancholic, oppressively toned game needs to be disgustingly romanticized so that people can easily rationalize the harsher elements of the plot.
Agree that Clem and Gabe has almost nothing in common, also, Clem seems like a very lone wolf type survivor, after the events of season 2.
We also already have Javier/Kate/Eleanor flirting whatever, I dont really want these games to start focusing so much on romance, as the interesting stuff has always been how bleak the world is, and how it breeds some really interesting characters
...Even if there's absolutely no connection other then them both being relatively the same age.
I suppose every cataclysmic, depressing, … moremelancholic, oppressively toned game needs to be disgustingly romanticized so that people can easily rationalize the harsher elements of the plot.
I don't like him, but it's not because he is an annoying little brat. At least not entirely. It just frustrates me when games and tv shows always make the teenagers be as stereotypical as they possibly can. I don't find that interesting in the slightest because it's always the same crap: moody teenager wants to help but makes things worse. It just makes me roll my eyes to be honest. And it doesn't help when that same teenager is living in the apocalypse for years now and somehow sleeping on a van and having the radio eat his tapes is reason enough to make him throw fits. Javier and his family just seem so oblivious about everything. It's like they strolled through the apocalypse for 4 years without never encountering danger and difficulties and somehow the kids stayed innocent the whole time that they even act like they are just on a road trip with their family. It's just not believable to me.
It doesnt seem to manly to pull a gun on someone just because theyre talking, there was no signs that it was gonna escalate beyond Conrad being angry, and if it did, I am sure Javier had it handled lol
I'm indifferent towards him for the exact same reason. Unless TellTale makes him competent and/or non-moody he's just going to be your stereotypical teenager who is most likely going to die a shitty death. And I really hope that doesn't happen. The change would be refreshing as hell, since Clementine is the only kid who has managed to survive the main series thus far. I don't exactly blame the people who are comparing him to Ben and Nick.
I don't like him, but it's not because he is an annoying little brat. At least not entirely. It just frustrates me when games and tv shows a… morelways make the teenagers be as stereotypical as they possibly can. I don't find that interesting in the slightest because it's always the same crap: moody teenager wants to help but makes things worse. It just makes me roll my eyes to be honest. And it doesn't help when that same teenager is living in the apocalypse for years now and somehow sleeping on a van and having the radio eat his tapes is reason enough to make him throw fits. Javier and his family just seem so oblivious about everything. It's like they strolled through the apocalypse for 4 years without never encountering danger and difficulties and somehow the kids stayed innocent the whole time that they even act like they are just on a road trip with their family. It's just not believable to me.
Well, if he doesnt change I expect him to die real fast, it seems that he hasnt really learned all the much in the years he has been in the apocalypse, he seems to have been pretty well sheltered by Kate and Javier, and now that shit is starting to go down, I dont expect him to last unless he changes
I'm indifferent towards him for the exact same reason. Unless TellTale makes him competent and/or non-moody he's just going to be your stere… moreotypical teenager who is most likely going to die a shitty death. And I really hope that doesn't happen. The change would be refreshing as hell, since Clementine is the only kid who has managed to survive the main series thus far. I don't exactly blame the people who are comparing him to Ben and Nick.
It's either one way or the other. I do want Gabe to get his shit together and make it to the end of the season if only for the sake of TellTale proving that their writing hasn't gone to complete shit. If he gets the Ben, Nick and Sarah treatment I'm gonna pissed. I have some hope for the kid but don't wanna get too optimistic.
Well, if he doesnt change I expect him to die real fast, it seems that he hasnt really learned all the much in the years he has been in the … moreapocalypse, he seems to have been pretty well sheltered by Kate and Javier, and now that shit is starting to go down, I dont expect him to last unless he changes
When Gabe was first introduced, I found him to be just another whiney teenager, but then I realized that this was the ZA and to have that kind of personality trait is absolutely ridiculous. 4 years in the ZA and he scoffs around and dosn't realize that this place were raiding has been clearly lived in recently. Not off to a great start. He tries here and there I guess, but in episode 2, he became a pest. The whole "I wanna be a man" while stabbing a downed zombie thing I found dumb and continues to be annoying. That and he doesn't know what the hell an argument looks like is rather silly. Who the fuck gave him a gun? On top of that, this forced shipping with him and Clementine is just cringy as hell. Also imo I don't like the look of his character model. Very bland and generic looking. Lastly, (this is minor) during the intro of ep. 1, I could easily tell it was someone doing a shit impersonation of his kid self. That's my reasons and I could be swayed, but so far not good.
When Gabe was first introduced, I found him to be just another whiney teenager, but then I realized that this was the ZA and to have that ki… morend of personality trait is absolutely ridiculous. 4 years in the ZA and he scoffs around and dosn't realize that this place were raiding has been clearly lived in recently. Not off to a great start. He tries here and there I guess, but in episode 2, he became a pest. The whole "I wanna be a man" while stabbing a downed zombie thing I found dumb and continues to be annoying. That and he doesn't know what the hell an argument looks like is rather silly. Who the fuck gave him a gun? On top of that, this forced shipping with him and Clementine is just cringy as hell. Also imo I don't like the look of his character model. Very bland and generic looking. Lastly, (this is minor) during the intro of ep. 1, I could easily tell it was someone doing a shit impersonation of his kid self. That's my reasons and I could be swayed, but so far not good.
We have two episodes so far, I bet she's going to warm up sooner or later, the shit she's been through is bound to slow that down a bit. Clem still do these things though, still joins communities, and you can even help Ava in, etc. It's still relevant, it's just that we can't play her almost at all.
Daily Reminder: Telltale made her a static character for the most part, so we can't dictate what happens for her too much.
Clementine is kind, helpful, community driven, morals high
I'm sorry, but are you & I playing the same third season of this game… more?... While first two points can at least be debated about, "community driven" is just straight up wrong — she's the typical loner type in s3. Same about high morals — she is just surviving, what exactly are the "high morals" of this? In season 1 & 2 she could be described like that, but from where I stand, it isn't true any longer.
Well, first I do want to say that I don't hate Gabe, but I do dislike him. The reason why is that at first he's simular to Duck, or atleast can be compared to Duck. Then said Javier or Kate he would be a "good" boyfriend for Clementine. Then I think because of people see Clementine as a virtual daughter the dad-shotgun-syndrom starts kicking in XD
I don't like him, but it's not because he is an annoying little brat. At least not entirely. It just frustrates me when games and tv shows a… morelways make the teenagers be as stereotypical as they possibly can. I don't find that interesting in the slightest because it's always the same crap: moody teenager wants to help but makes things worse. It just makes me roll my eyes to be honest. And it doesn't help when that same teenager is living in the apocalypse for years now and somehow sleeping on a van and having the radio eat his tapes is reason enough to make him throw fits. Javier and his family just seem so oblivious about everything. It's like they strolled through the apocalypse for 4 years without never encountering danger and difficulties and somehow the kids stayed innocent the whole time that they even act like they are just on a road trip with their family. It's just not believable to me.
We have two episodes so far, I bet she's going to warm up sooner or later, the shit she's been through is bound to slow that down a bit. Cle… morem still do these things though, still joins communities, and you can even help Ava in, etc. It's still relevant, it's just that we can't play her almost at all.
Daily Reminder: Telltale made her a static character for the most part, so we can't dictate what happens for her too much.
It's because to paraphrase Jim Sterling, Gabe belongs to the Carl Grimes school of the 101 ****ups of a four foot burden.
He's there to be a child character, someone we are supposed to care about. Telltale just kind of forgot to give us a reason why we are supposed to care about him other than "he's a kid."
Not running out of an ongoing life-saving procedure like a spaz after nearly killing a woman from using a harmful chemical in her wound, not pointing said gun at a man because of an argument and then having to be methodically talked down to lowering the shaking weapon, not talking and acting like as if he's always got some major issue with the fact he's an inexperienced child who wants to be more helpful
No offense dude, but that doesn't really answer my question. You're more or less picking out complaints and nitpicks you personally have against him.
not crying and complaining because of a decision to leave behind a very-likely occupied and dangerous area,
but doesn't want people helping him to be that helpful young man.
the kid who ran off because stoner babe said something he didn't like.
When was this exactly?
And quite a few of those examples aren't even pertinent to what you used as your quoted retort...
Basically, reliable can be as simple as "Can be counted on to be there and/or help when truly needed." Him wanting to be more active, saving Kate, readily defending Javier and Clementine, and being prepared to fight and/or defend when trouble arises shows that he's striving to be exactly that and making progress.
What do those have to do with being reliable? Urging Javier to kill a man who is obviously mentally unstable and stupid, most likely having an itchy trigger finger doesn't strike me exactly as "reliable."
It means he's still ready to do what has to be done when there is a threat. Isn't that basically why so many people harp on certain other characters: because they weren't always ready and/or didn't have a lot of moments to take care of things? Because they weren't "badass" enough or whatever you wanna call it?
What do you classify as a reliable trait?
Not running out of an ongoing life-saving procedure like a spaz after nearly killing a wom… morean from using a harmful chemical in her wound, not pointing said gun at a man because of an argument and then having to be methodically talked down to lowering the shaking weapon, not crying and complaining because of a decision to leave behind a very-likely occupied and dangerous area, not talking and acting like as if he's always got some major issue with the fact he's an inexperienced child who wants to be more helpful but doesn't want people helping him to be that helpful young man.
And quite a few of those examples aren't even pertinent to what you used as your quoted retort...
urges Javier to shoot Conrad when taken hostage, and determinately calls him out for selling out Clementine
What do those have to do with being reliable? Urging Javier to kill a man who is obviously mentally u… [view original content]
Well, first I do want to say that I don't hate Gabe, but I do dislike him. The reason why is that at first he's simular to Duck, or atleast … morecan be compared to Duck. Then said Javier or Kate he would be a "good" boyfriend for Clementine. Then I think because of people see Clementine as a virtual daughter the dad-shotgun-syndrom starts kicking in XD
Personally, i don't hate Gabe, but i must say, he is pretty annoying sometimes.
I don't have a problem with Gabe hitting on Clem or vice versa, though. Not that i ship it, but hey, that would be adorable, even if Gabe is kinda a fuckwit compared to Clementine.
I don't like Nick at all. I like Kenny, because even though he whines a lot, he actually tries to change the situation instead of just whining. Well, i guess that kids simply can't really change the situation, because they are physically weaker, but then again - if you can't contribute, at least don't whine.
It's funny because most people don't like kids because they are whiny and annoying. If you ask me, Kenny and Nick were very whiny as well but the fans love them.
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He's that typical annoying teenage boy with puberty-issues so far. If he changes a lot within the next episodes, fine. Otherwise I won't magically start to like him.
I don't see that it much bothered him.
Damn, Even Arvo longer worried about his sister's death
The main difference is that that character archetype no longer has any plausibility in the kind of world The Walking Dead has transformed into any more.
If I were playing a choice-driven game about 'surviving' the first days of high school in an anime game, then his relentlessly brooding and whining character archetype would feel much more comforting with that kind of thematic tone. But Gabe is suppose to be in a post-apocalyptic world that has been under walker tyranny for many years. So him not being able to hold a gun steady, still showing no reliable traits in the face of adversity, and on and on makes him seem not just weak or scarred... it makes him seem ill-fitted to be in a game like The Walking Dead.
And I know it's all to make us want to watch out for someone that is meeker and less prepared then we are, but I find that reasoning to be slightly insulting to my intelligence. That we as gamers are all blasé and indifferent to a character until they whine scene after scene is a horrible excuse to defend the little pussy by.
But now I'm ranting...
Gabe is more willing to accept it and move on, he has a more hardened personality for a zombie apocalypse than Arvo.
He doesn't seem like a pussy, he seems to be more willing to accept the zombie apocalypse and what it entails to me. I'm saying he would get bullied but he wouldn't just sit there and take it.
I don't hate him... tbh I only ever truly disliked him in episode 1. I found him to be whiny, always doing more harm than good (e.g. Kate's surgery, eating the pudding and insisting on staying in a home that was obviously occupied), etc. which was only highlighted in front of Mariana's maturity despite her younger age.
He's grown on me now. I have high hopes for him. I can't even fault him for trying to shoot Conrad(?) when he threatens Javi, because my Javi can be quite trigger happy and impulsive when defending his family, so in a way he's following what he's seen his uncle doing for four-five years.
I don't understand where all this worry is coming about regarding Clem and Gabe. Besides the one line of dialogue they share in Ep 2, what is the evidence that he has a crush on her?
He was beating himself up about it something fierce, is found overkilling a walker outside the gate otherwise, and even draws on Conrad when he starts getting aggressive towards Javier. It definitely bothered him.
Nothing as far as I've seen. Just a joke on Javier, Tripp, and Conrad's part that people took too seriously.
He is a whiny little bitch, the typical annoying teenager, probably the new Ben or the new Nick of season 3, even Clementine has more balls than him. I always keep wondering how is it that people like him survived that long in the apocalypse and other people, braver, tougher, smarter didn't
He hides with Kate when Max captures Javier, gets her out of the line of fire when she gets shot, wants to help with Kate's bullet wound, is seen taking out his anger on a walker he may have killed himself, states his intention to not just stand around anymore whether Javier wants him too or not, draws on Conrad when he gets aggressive towards Javier in his grief, knows the meaning of warning shots if you don't talk him down, helps Clementine hold the subway door while Javier finds something to block it, urges Javier to shoot Conrad when taken hostage, and determinately calls him out for selling out Clementine.
What do you classify as a reliable trait?
I'm sorry, but are you & I playing the same third season of this game?... While first two points can at least be debated about, "community driven" is just straight up wrong — she's the typical loner type in s3. Same about high morals — she is just surviving, what exactly are the "high morals" of this? In season 1 & 2 she could be described like that, but from where I stand, it isn't true any longer.
I certainly appreciate the way people hate a teenager for having typical teenager problems, I mean, that is the shit, no jokes here. It's also rather nice how, maybe, five minutes of positive interaction between characters are enough to say there is a crush going on here, but even if it does... Let's just say, I hope that people, who say that they'd leave him to die if he was crushing on Clem (I saw people say that) never have a teenage daughter of their own. Like, I know they think they are being protective, but they are just cringeworthy as all hell. The whole "she is too pure to get involved in romance" mentality is cringeworthy. Fucking let the two of them decide how things should be between them, alright?...
I love Gabe. He is one of my favorite characters in this season, because he is actually going through development & has issues in his own unique way that I can't remember any other character of this game depicting. The game has made me invested in him & worried about him, worried about the possibility of him getting hurt, or being influenced by others in a way that'll be harmful for him (DAVID). I'm looking forward to seeing more of him & I hope that I, as Javi, will be able to provide him with a good role model.
What? No... Gabe hes a great guy, great personality, brings a lot of positivity, sex icon (just like his dad, no wonder David got Kate) clementine starting to feel it too, in other words most handsome character in the game a part from David. XDDDDDDDDD
Did I forget anything?
Not running out of an ongoing life-saving procedure like a spaz after nearly killing a woman from using a harmful chemical in her wound, not pointing said gun at a man because of an argument and then having to be methodically talked down to lowering the shaking weapon, not crying and complaining because of a decision to leave behind a very-likely occupied and dangerous area, not talking and acting like as if he's always got some major issue with the fact he's an inexperienced child who wants to be more helpful but doesn't want people helping him to be that helpful young man.
And quite a few of those examples aren't even pertinent to what you used as your quoted retort...
What do those have to do with being reliable? Urging Javier to kill a man who is obviously mentally unstable and stupid, most likely having an itchy trigger finger doesn't strike me exactly as "reliable." And getting mad cause his little crush got sold out is about the same level of emotional instability I'd come to expect from the kid who ran off because stoner babe said something he didn't like. It doesn't make him reliable though, it makes him obnoxious.
Because...
Gabe's your typical teenager going through puberty (because we definitely need more of these type of characters in this game, it's not enough that we see 'em on TV) that just so happens to be in a 4 year apocalypse...
What the hell is going on with all this sudden indirect sexualization of Clementine?
Clementine "feels it" cause of whining baby being a "sex icon" is only slightly less weird than the gross era of season 2's talk of Clem being with Luke because of his supposed attractiveness.
Its not really obsession with clementine in particular, the obsession is with "shipping", literally its the new thing younger gamers are obsessed with. Fanbases are absolutley obsessed with them
...Even if there's absolutely no connection other then them both being relatively the same age.
I suppose every cataclysmic, depressing, melancholic, oppressively toned game needs to be disgustingly romanticized so that people can easily rationalize the harsher elements of the plot.
Hey at least it's better than those dark days on the forum when those trolls keept on posting Luke & Clem pics when S2 was out.
Agree that Clem and Gabe has almost nothing in common, also, Clem seems like a very lone wolf type survivor, after the events of season 2.
We also already have Javier/Kate/Eleanor flirting whatever, I dont really want these games to start focusing so much on romance, as the interesting stuff has always been how bleak the world is, and how it breeds some really interesting characters
He's a giant cry-baby. All he does is be a burden and get sad. The only "manly" thing he did this entire season, so far, was pull out a gun on Conrad.
I don't like him, but it's not because he is an annoying little brat. At least not entirely. It just frustrates me when games and tv shows always make the teenagers be as stereotypical as they possibly can. I don't find that interesting in the slightest because it's always the same crap: moody teenager wants to help but makes things worse. It just makes me roll my eyes to be honest. And it doesn't help when that same teenager is living in the apocalypse for years now and somehow sleeping on a van and having the radio eat his tapes is reason enough to make him throw fits. Javier and his family just seem so oblivious about everything. It's like they strolled through the apocalypse for 4 years without never encountering danger and difficulties and somehow the kids stayed innocent the whole time that they even act like they are just on a road trip with their family. It's just not believable to me.
It doesnt seem to manly to pull a gun on someone just because theyre talking, there was no signs that it was gonna escalate beyond Conrad being angry, and if it did, I am sure Javier had it handled lol
I'm indifferent towards him for the exact same reason. Unless TellTale makes him competent and/or non-moody he's just going to be your stereotypical teenager who is most likely going to die a shitty death. And I really hope that doesn't happen. The change would be refreshing as hell, since Clementine is the only kid who has managed to survive the main series thus far. I don't exactly blame the people who are comparing him to Ben and Nick.
Well, if he doesnt change I expect him to die real fast, it seems that he hasnt really learned all the much in the years he has been in the apocalypse, he seems to have been pretty well sheltered by Kate and Javier, and now that shit is starting to go down, I dont expect him to last unless he changes
It's either one way or the other. I do want Gabe to get his shit together and make it to the end of the season if only for the sake of TellTale proving that their writing hasn't gone to complete shit. If he gets the Ben, Nick and Sarah treatment I'm gonna pissed. I have some hope for the kid but don't wanna get too optimistic.
When Gabe was first introduced, I found him to be just another whiney teenager, but then I realized that this was the ZA and to have that kind of personality trait is absolutely ridiculous. 4 years in the ZA and he scoffs around and dosn't realize that this place were raiding has been clearly lived in recently. Not off to a great start. He tries here and there I guess, but in episode 2, he became a pest. The whole "I wanna be a man" while stabbing a downed zombie thing I found dumb and continues to be annoying. That and he doesn't know what the hell an argument looks like is rather silly. Who the fuck gave him a gun? On top of that, this forced shipping with him and Clementine is just cringy as hell. Also imo I don't like the look of his character model. Very bland and generic looking. Lastly, (this is minor) during the intro of ep. 1, I could easily tell it was someone doing a shit impersonation of his kid self. That's my reasons and I could be swayed, but so far not good.
I forgot about him stabbing an already completely re-dead walker like a fucking badass...
What an "amazing" character.
We have two episodes so far, I bet she's going to warm up sooner or later, the shit she's been through is bound to slow that down a bit. Clem still do these things though, still joins communities, and you can even help Ava in, etc. It's still relevant, it's just that we can't play her almost at all.
Daily Reminder: Telltale made her a static character for the most part, so we can't dictate what happens for her too much.
Well, first I do want to say that I don't hate Gabe, but I do dislike him. The reason why is that at first he's simular to Duck, or atleast can be compared to Duck. Then said Javier or Kate he would be a "good" boyfriend for Clementine. Then I think because of people see Clementine as a virtual daughter the dad-shotgun-syndrom starts kicking in XD
Honestly, Mariana seemed a more believable character that survived the apocalypse than Gabe.
Even tho she rather pray to find a candy-bar, than the group's safety.
Thats what I'm hoping for. And by that token, so can Gabe.
Btw, what's an edgelord?
Why do I dislike Gabe?
It's because to paraphrase Jim Sterling, Gabe belongs to the Carl Grimes school of the 101 ****ups of a four foot burden.
He's there to be a child character, someone we are supposed to care about. Telltale just kind of forgot to give us a reason why we are supposed to care about him other than "he's a kid."
No offense dude, but that doesn't really answer my question. You're more or less picking out complaints and nitpicks you personally have against him.
When was this exactly?
Basically, reliable can be as simple as "Can be counted on to be there and/or help when truly needed." Him wanting to be more active, saving Kate, readily defending Javier and Clementine, and being prepared to fight and/or defend when trouble arises shows that he's striving to be exactly that and making progress.
It means he's still ready to do what has to be done when there is a threat. Isn't that basically why so many people harp on certain other characters: because they weren't always ready and/or didn't have a lot of moments to take care of things? Because they weren't "badass" enough or whatever you wanna call it?
Um, how is he similar to Duck exactly?
Reacted* She isn't a 8/9/10/11 years old anymore.
At least if you're talking about Luke's birthday
Personally, i don't hate Gabe, but i must say, he is pretty annoying sometimes.
I don't have a problem with Gabe hitting on Clem or vice versa, though. Not that i ship it, but hey, that would be adorable, even if Gabe is kinda a fuckwit compared to Clementine.
She still calls it gross. When you flirt with Eleanor (Season 3)
Ah, i never knew that. Well, then what you said makes a lot more sense.
I don't like Nick at all. I like Kenny, because even though he whines a lot, he actually tries to change the situation instead of just whining. Well, i guess that kids simply can't really change the situation, because they are physically weaker, but then again - if you can't contribute, at least don't whine.