WHERE IS TELLTALE TAKING THE STORY???
I've been theorizing on what route Telltale is going to take with the series but I'm interested to see where you guys think the series is headed.
"Are they going to kill off Clem? Will Javi join the New Frontier? Will there be another TWD episode? What choices from previous seasons will have a bearing on Clem in season 3? Is Telltale setting up an unwanted relationship with Clem and Gabe? Are we going to see any other major characters from the comics? Is Clem gonna hit that joint with Kate? Will Javier ever get laid?"
All very interesting questions. What do you think?
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I don't think they'd kill Clem. If they do, they're honestly stupid and a lot of people aren't gonna buy the game anymore. Unless, they make it an awesome(even better than Lees) death.
I think it's gonna end up with Javier having to fight/kill David and end up with Javier, Gabe and Clem ending the season when it comes to who are the last survivors.
That's what I think!
It'll turn into a power struggle between David and Javi.
Clementine will spend the season looking for AJ.
Kate and Gabe hostages.
I hope not, considering I have been trying to be a good brother to David, I also dont give a fuck about the New Frontier, I just wanna get AJ, and get the fuck outta dodge
My expectation is that David will turn on the new frontier and there will be a divide. We also have the romantic implications between Javier and Kate, which will inevitably be found out if Kate does make it.
Javier dying will just be another Lee cop-out, so I don't think they'll go through with that as it would be too predictable and reminiscent. It's safe to say that Clementine is going to make it too. All the others are possibilities and can be easily killed at any moment.
It's going to be an interesting season.
Main plot will revolve around the NF... Episode 3 will centre around the brothers and their clashing relationship, Kate's recovery and realising the true nature/terror of the community.
Episode 4/5 will be about their escape and looking for a new home.
I have a feeling the season will end with Clementine (+ AJ) and Javi going their separate ways. Clem may be willing to settle in some new community whilst Javi (I think only Gabe will make it from his family) will want to stay on the road, as that is what worked best for them.
Therefore, we'll have finished Clem's story on a hopeful note, and that too in a more satisfying way than her just dying, and we can continue with Javi and Gabe for season 4.
Into the dumpster with Glenn
I do like that prediction. I can't see Javier letting Clementine walk off by herself with a baby/infant (not sure how old AJ is now), however. If she managed to slip away, then it seems more likely. It would be kinda irritating to those who are trying to keep a positive relationship with Clementine, though. Hopefully it all amounts to something.
When you say "They" will escape are you including David or is David who they're running from.
I'd still entirely prefer her final season actually be about her, but if we found a decent community they'll settle in, before Javier and Gabe decide to split and continue their story, as long as we spend some time with the residents, it'd be a decent way for me to end my time with the series.
Because a repeat of S2 Wellington ending as the final ending to her story is just, no. And that was before we found out that amazing place could be felled by a few bandits lol
Into the realms of forced romantic plotlines, child characters with no kind of self-constitution of any description, OG dank bud memes, karate fighting trench-coat wearing hippies, choices that amount to nil, bastardization of one of gaming's recent favorite characters, and a timeline jump that is about as confusing as anything.
"karate fighting trench-coat wearing hippies"
Yeah, I thought I was watching a martial arts movie at that point.
http://imgur.com/a/Lh6mC
I can't help but think this game would have been much better off as a spinoff set shortly after the outbreak, I'm pretty sure whoever wrote Javier and his family thought it was. It seems like they were in stasis for 4 years, and then the game starts and Javier and Kate can resume the sexual tension from 4 years ago, Gabe can resume not having gotten over his stepmom in 4 years, Mariana can...
Well, I don't really know what she does, she prays for chocolate and can hide, she could actually have lost it sitting in the back of the van for 4 years trying to talk to the people frozen in time. They feel completely out of place compared to every other character imo
Where they taking the story?
Well I think they will slowly get us to like these new characters and then they will KILL THEM ALL OFF so we're just left with Clem at the end. Any characters who do survive other than Clem will be killed off at the start of the following season!
That would be this "New angle" they speak of.
Hmm.
Yeah they've pretty much fucked the series up.
"Bu- but, her praying for chocolate was cute wasn't it?"
The shit that made my skin crawl was her face being blown apart and the game resuming as normal with it's impotent lackluster story and characters pulling the same shit the assholes in season 2 did when they stood by and watched a girl get surrounded and torn apart.
Other then, of course, Whiny McWhine Pants' poorly delivered and written shit about burying her as he continuously stabbed an already dead walker like a little sociopath.
God, Telltale has gotten awful at writing child characters.
Okay that made me laugh, have a like.
The writers are shit.
At this point, they're just winging it.
Who the fuck knows at this point...I am loving the season, but the things I have been hearing about cool scenes being ripped out...multiple rewrites to scenes...upper level management micromanaging things..sending in yesmen writing hacks to change up parts, though if there is a large delay like there is rumored...march or april for ep 3 I can hope that things will settle down at Telltale.
After reading Glassdoor reviews, several things are apparent about Telltale.
I do think it will come out well maybe even great, but it is sad to think that there are apparently awesome scenes that we will not see because of some infighting. And man this sucks coming from me because I am usually a defender.
Telltale....GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!
Oh my God @Everyone'sClemInTime your nitpicky humor is as humorous as like @Clem_is_awesome user. (Btw will he come back?)
I love it.
I kinda thought that they knew what they were doing with S2 Clem, like that pick-the-table choice, that was so kid-like and yet it was hard, from that point I actually thought they could pull it off because not many writers can write child character but then EP3 came... and shat on everything.
Eight fucking writers... for one episode...
I can't...
I know right? I could just imagine the writers just writing on one sheet of paper and they end up beating each other up.
Javier can help all he wants, but Clem is keeping AJ, or there will be hell to pay
To be fair, it's not like she was a family member or even someone our character has spent 4 years wi.. Oh, damn. Yea, it really didn't carry much weight. This family should be absolutely devastated, but I've only talked to her maybe twice. How is it supposed to have as significant an impact on the player as it should on the family? And we almost immediately transition to a new desperate mission to save someone who, again, should be a huge emotional attachment to Javier but still someone the player barely knows.
It feels like the new writers are in a rush to make make the new story as impactful as the first season, so they did it in one episode. But, it had as much impact as Dougs death to me. Well, less, since I actually had to choose who to save, so that was kinda on me. They didn't take anytime to let the player connect with Javier enough to make it personal, this could have been a huge moment later in the season.
Lmao
Continuing with Javier/Gabe seems like a terrible choice, at least for me, while I like Javier, he is the most bland protagonist this series has ever had, and I dont think I would want him to be the main lead for another game
Also, unless Gabe changes massively, I never wanna see him again
It definitely seems like it, they have been surviving for 4 years, and as soon as the game starts, theyre all suddenly incapable of any kind of rational thought, and 1 gets killed almost immediately, and the rest of them decides that running over to a dead body in the middle of a firefight is a good idea.
Javier is the only one that even seems remotely capable of doing anything in that group, how we are supposed to believe that they survived for 4 years, I dont know
"MY SON"
snatches AJ
It seems weird that they have changed so much over the years, considering they did so well early in their "choicedriven game career" so to speak, Season 1 and 2 were great, a wolf among us is great, but then we have stuff like batman, which is basically just a quicktime event/glorified cutscene.
Just get one or 2 writers for the entire game, write a proper story from the start, and stop trying to shoehorn everything you want into the same game, I would have liked A New Frontier alot more if it was just a story about Javier, (although A New Frontier is ok, I worry for my future as a walking dead fan, considering my main concern in these games is the story of Clem, as is alot of other people I think).
I never actually expected it, but I am almost more worried about AJ in this game, than I am Clem, although I am still probably done with this series if they remove Clem, I never thought AJ would mean so much to me, I just hope they actually do something nice with him this season, although I really wanted to play as Clem, to protect AJ, I feel like I dont have the right to be so protective of AJ so to speak, considering I am playing as Javier, but I am still in the mindset of Clem lol
No, I get you. I can't see Clementine dying, but AJ? Eh, maybe... as long as they don't show the death. I really can't imagine Telltale killing off an infant, though.
I think you have the right to be protective. People are naturally protective of children, even ones they don't know. The same applies here, even though he's fictional.
How come you care about AJ?
So that's how they solve their writer block disputes...
A knuckle sandwich.
"Tobi, why don't you love me?"
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/5/51/NGB_AJ_Evening.png/revision/latest?cb=20140828194609
Okaaay he's a bit cute.
Because he needs protection, he cant protect himself like Clem and Javier can, also, he really grew on me during the flashbacks
Also, Clem cares alot for him, and I really want to see her happy like she is in the flashbacks with AJ, Clem doesnt smile very much anymore
And by extension, since I still associate myself more with Clem than Javier, since I think Javier is kind of plain as a character, so her interests are more my interests than Javier. This is of course because I have played season 2, and we havent seen much of A New Frontier yet, consiering its still only 2 episodes (very short at that), but I dunno, I just want AJ to be safe, and Clem too
True I mostly care about Clem, but I never grew to care about AJ. So I'd only act according to Clem in case for AJ.
While I understand what they are going for...I am just questioning the how they are going for it. TWD works best when you have character interaction in the quiet moments...Getting time to know these characters and see what they are like when they are not running for their lives. It creates empathy, and you become invested in the characters...so when the shit does hit the fan...you are really concerned about the characters. The way a series like this should work is you have 1 chief writer who comes up with an over all arc for the story...who is also the one writer you will see on all the episodes writing list...then you have no more than 2 other writers per episode...fleshing out characters and constructing conversation pathways that converge in 2 or 3 spots...usually best case mid case and worst case...someone is on the path to pissing off a group member.
Plus...Prescott was a missed opportunity...I would have loved to see Clem's or Javi and his family's reaction to Prescott...I wanted to explore Prescott. Imagine the Bath House...after being on the run for so long...they could have been in taking a bath and having time for us to get to know them better....a scene that is indicative of what makes TWD different than some run of the mill zombie series.
I dunno...we will see what happens...I mean it is not like they do not have the talent to tell great tales....they just need to get back to the basics and let the writers do their thing.
Yeah, there is definitely alot of characterisation lost from the days of season 1, most of A New Frontier so far has been actionpacked, with very few quiet moments, compared to season 1, where there were plenty of quiet moments with tons of characterisation, for example on the first farm, in the drug store, on the Cannibal farm, (before they knew of course), there were so many moments, where you got to know the characters, Ducks death was a great characterising moment for Kenny, and we learn how dangerous it can be to grow too close in the apocalypse, as seen again when Lee dies, I doubt I would ever care as much for any of the characters in A New Frontier, from what we have seen so far, compared to almost the entire group in season 1.
Mariana is already dead, and she probably had like, 10 lines max I think.
I agree with Prescott, we barely even see Prescott in episode 1, and it is already gone now. The lack of hubs and minor sidequests such as fixing the swing in season 1 is also really hurting the characterisation in the game, fixing the swing and then pushing Clem on the swing was such a great moment in season 1, and a really great bonding moment between Lee and Clem, it feels like Telltale have lost sight of some of the important values that the first game had, and misinterpreted some of the things that made these games popular. Because at the end of the day, I think Telltales games is very much for a niche audience, its not nearly as allencompassing as say Call of Duty or Battlefield, so pushing old fans away in an attempt to secure new fans, seems like a weird choice, considering alot of the people interested in these types of games probably already know about them.
And making it more actionoriented also seems to be trying to push out of that niche that the earlier games sat in, by drawing in some of the fans of other things, but I just dont think it works, why should people play an actionoriented Walking Dead, when they can play something like Dying Light, which is also a zombie game, but alot lighter on the story.
I don't think so. Can you imagine thousands of people wanting them dead? Yeah.
Most likely, but i'm pretty sure he won't stick for too long.
You mean another season? I don't know, but i hope the answer is yes. Leaving Clem's story when she is around 13/14 would be so lame.
Seems like decisions from S1 don't matter much, if anything at all
I suspect it's going to be a one-sided relationship
Hope not. It would be really cheap for Telltale to just put a bunch of already well known characters with developed personalities.
I silently hope so, even though it's awkward to admit it. Drugs are bad (and personally i don't drink nor smoke), but just like i was curious how Clem is gonna react to alcohol in S2, so i'm also curious how Clem would react to weed.
Probably not, considering he is making this face when flirting with women
(Full Screenshot thanks @ZapThroat for this)
No.
After what happened with Mariana, he really shouldn't regardless of what David thinks and wants. I think he'll at least be given an offer to join though.
You mean season? Yeah, I think there's at least one more after this.
Implying choices matter, here's some ideas:
I don't think so. I think the only reason they didn't go beyond the "Hey, those two look pretty cute together, r-right guys?" stage was because TellTale are kind of afraid of the backlash that they might get for including an unwanted romantic subplot for Clementine. I think this was their attempt at testing the waters and to see the audiences reaction to those hints. Because it seems that they were overwhelmingly negative everywhere, I really doubt TellTale will push further into it other than maybe with some one sided feelings from Gabe.
I hope not.
I hope so.
Yes, but only in one of his flashbacks.
Exactly...Telltale should stick with what they do best....the action scenes in S1 were never going to win awards...but they felt weightier because they were spread out and felt dangerous.
Well said.
Though...
So far all flashbacks were about Clementine, i doubt they will switch to Javier. This would mean even less Clem, which would mean even more pissed people.