Everyone seems convinced Ava/Tripp is dead???
I thought the scene was SUPER obvious the way it was written that they will return in season 4.
Ava and Tripp both fall, getting non-lethal injuries on the way to what you can see is water below.
Not to mention the mourning is SUPER short. Why? because the writers know they didn't actually die.
If they actually died, there would be a body.
But I've read so many comments of people angry they 'died'. It's like boi that's a plot device for them to show later.
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Nah, it's because that scene is ridiculously bad-written, there's no more to that.
If they don't come back I'll eat a shoe.
Or a food shaped like a shoe.
They are DETERMINANT characters. Conrad is the only determinant character they have bothered to make him survive.
The reason you are probably feeling that Ava/Tripp didn't die was because their deaths like many of the other characters were cheap.
I take your word for it.
Edit: oops, meant to reply this to chris. ignore this post
Edit 2: When they come back Imma go back to this thread sayin Itoldyaso and do a cheesy booty dance internally
If it was a cheap death, why didn't they spend 2 seconds to show the bodies below?
It just seems awfully convenient they didn't show them, but took the time to show there's water below.
"They're dead. We have to move on." - Lee Everett
Technically certain combinations of Gabe/David/Kate can survive to the end and they're all determinant
yes but Ava and Tripp go MIA no matter what, indicating to me they're being saved for later.
If in some versions, they died, I'd be convinced they be RIP. But them vanishing is a constant.
Nah, those scenes are bad-written and unfinished. They certainly won't come back.
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Lingard is still alive by the end of the season if you didn't kill him.
They're done for. At that height, hitting the ground below would've likely killed/paralyzed them on impact, let alone the fact that they both had at least one walker on top of them.
Besides, they don't have the power of Kenny's mustache to keep them alive. Tripp might be close, but it still can't compare to that majesty.
"They're not dead. Do you want them to be? cries" -Clementine.
Sorry, I had to, lol.
The missing ingredient. How could I have been so blind???
So the characters that just stood there, not giving a single fuck that their companion just fell off a cliff/supposidly died was because they knew they're gonna reappear when Clementine is off on her own?
lol
I think that's why the writers didn't make the death as dramatic and more dismissive.
Still bad writing, but it explains the mentality.
Eh, Javier was pretty messed up about Tripp, it was just Ava that no fucks were given to.
Well, there was water down there, but I'm pretty sure hitting it at a certain speed can still kill.
if you wanna be scientifically correct, yes. but this is twdg where people survive sillier circumstances
Falling into water from that height would knock you out and cause you to drown. Not to mention the walkers that were on top of them. They dead af.
This is TWD where a walker composed of putrefying dead skinny muscles could overpower a grown healthy male and bicep curl him to its mouth to eat, or have the ability to hear or see despite having busted pupils, or smell anything despite everything smelling like dogshit and perfectly discern between who's alive and dead unless they're jebaited by humans wearing walker guts.
Remember when people were absolutely convinced Kate was dead because of the explosion and that there was no way she could still be alive, and yet. If I see no body, all bets are off is all I'm going to say on this subject.
I know right? I thought it was super obvious Kate was alive but people were 100% convinced she was dead there.
This is definitely the same case.
And if I'm wrong I'll eat a mcdonald's happy meal.
Well there is a precedent of characters surviving much more unlikely situations in the past so we'll see, I guess. Though it seems the focus will be back on Clementine for next DLC/season so we'll probably never know just like with Christa and Lilly.
Nah, I think they'll show up in Clem's story. They need someone to bring back from a previous season who isn't dead.
(I'm assuming Javier shows up anyway)
They are dead regardless. If they didn't die from the fall they certainly died from being bit/scratched from the walkers. Not to mention they are determinant after all.
we didn't see 'em bit on screen.
Seeing how Tripp fell off with the walkers on him we can assume atleast one bit him on the way down. Ava Is similar granted her death happened in the blink of an eye.
Hmmm... on a second thought, when you look at Tripp, you can see he has a god-like beard and quite a powerful 'stache so I think we should consider that he got lucky... like, reeeaaaally lucky.
I need that Futurama meme with Fry "Not sure if serious", cause this has to be a troll thread, right?
A character falls off screen into water (without being clearly bitten). This is a constant no matter what you do.
Is it really trollish to suggest they aren't dead and are meant to show up as a surprise later on?
Tripp falls backwards, head first off a bridge with 3-4 walkers on him, hitting his head on a metal pipe as he goes down.
And in Ava's case the walker is on her back, with access to her neck and David watches her go over the side and down.
I think your optimism levels are pretty high.
Yeah but tripp isnt impaled. He hurt his back yeah but its potentially non lethal.
and ava isnt shown bit
I might be optimistic. but its not like I want them back. i dont care for tripp. It just came off as obvious writing to me.
maybe im off
My opinions of most things in the last episode are that they are rushed and this to me was just tying up the loose end of having to deal with half the players having Ava and half Tripp, so just sorting that difference out as soon as possible.
They can kill as many characters as they like from this series for all I care.
Except Clem, obvs :P
That's a perfectly reasonable opinion to have.
The episode was rushed for sure.
I'm on a similar boat. I really only care for Clem, AJ and Javier.
To me though I feel like they wouldn't have left the actual corpse off-screen or taken the time to show water below if they weren't trying to be ambiguous about their fate. But y'never know. It could just be a shoddy way of writing them off. I'm just holding onto the former.
Well there is always a chance when people 'die' off-screen.
But let's leave this series behind shall we? :P
Well, the reason we were convinced that Kate was dead was the fact that all logic dictates she should be, but surprise surprise, plot dictates that she is not only alive but in perfect shape
That's because she jumped out, as some of us assumed she would.
Pretty sure in the end "Your New Frontier" choices, only Ava's said that she died from the fall, but Tripp's didn't. I can only 100% recall that it didn't mention Tripp dying specifically in my results but he did have the red X over him like the rest of the dead characters, so I don't know what to say.
If Clementine s story is a DLC of a new frontier then yeah i can see Ava and Tripp returning to be companions for Clementine in her Journey until she meets up with other survivors.