To be fair, the New Frontier kicked her out in a certain area and Ava was the reason she even knew about Prescott, which is where she decided to head after meeting Javier.
To be fair, the New Frontier kicked her out in a certain area and Ava was the reason she even knew about Prescott, which is where she decided to head after meeting Javier.
That audio error bugs me every time it happens. It's like they cut her lines up and stitched them back together but then screwed up and left that one little part in in two separate lines.
David really is a sore loser and a sore winner and just a shitty person in general. I lost all patience with him when at the batting cage flashback he gets all pissed at Javi, a professional level baseball player, for being good at hitting baseballs in the batting cages, which David brought him to to cheer him up after being banned. What did he expect was going to happen? Did he expect Javi would have lost all of his talent, like the league took it away from him lol?
What about permanent choices? Like how Clem talks about keeping her hair short with Luke.
What is there in this spin-off series that stayed permanent from Season 1 character interactions?
btw it honestly doesn't matter, at all, with who do you go in S2 at the end, if Clem is going to end up being the same irrational and edgy bad-ass who cant develop further.
What do you mean? Choices do matter, if you stayed with Jane, Kenny or Edith they make brief appearances and die. If you go to Wellington or… more Howe's they're in the flashbacks and you never hear from them again, plus the best part is that Clementine's personality does change! If you go with Jane or stay Alone she's automatically seen as a hardcore survivor who doesn't care about the safey of others and shoots David, which makes sense if she was an absolute sweetheart in Season 2 and since Jane had character development that made the players assume she would be more hopeful and if you go with Kenny or go into Wellington, she's automatically seen as a hardcore survivor labelled as a family lover who doesn't care about the safety of others and only threatens David with a gun, which makes sense if etc. /s
The thing that bugged me about that junkyard was there were zero New Frontier symbols to be found. None on the signage, none on the vehicles, none on or in the trailer, none anywhere. Javi wouldn't have known what they were BUT for a group that loved to put their symbol everywhere (as evidenced by it being all over everything in Richmond), they for some reason chose not to mark the junkyard as their territory.
He captured her while she was scouting and likely interrogated her for find out if she saw Javier, heading to Prescott when he got his answe… morer.
Also, Javier was trepassing on their yard and Max was suspicious that he had company from a previous experience, so he had Lonnie keep an eye on him to check things out. Javier attacking Lonnie(in which he proved himself a felon, no matter which way you look at it) just officially got him on the New Frontier's bad side.
How did Katedrive the bulldozer into Richmond when the gates were locked and Jesus was outside killing walkers so obviously he never knew she was in there or anything?
How did Katedrive the bulldozer into Richmond when the gates were locked and Jesus was outside killing walkers so obviously he never knew she was in there or anything?
Yeah, that is strange. I can only assume since it was that trio, they'd fairly recently secured the location as a buffer point to relax in between raids.
The thing that bugged me about that junkyard was there were zero New Frontier symbols to be found. None on the signage, none on the vehicles… more, none on or in the trailer, none anywhere. Javi wouldn't have known what they were BUT for a group that loved to put their symbol everywhere (as evidenced by it being all over everything in Richmond), they for some reason chose not to mark the junkyard as their territory.
How did Katedrive the bulldozer into Richmond when the gates were locked and Jesus was outside killing walkers so obviously he never knew she was in there or anything?
If you can't figure out how to drive on your own just ding the bell and we'll send tommy down to hit you on the head with a tack hammer because you are a retard.
1) It's not brain surgery. If you can't figure out how to drive on your own just ding the bell and we'll send tommy down to hit you on the head with a tack hammer because you are a retard.
2) Bad writing.
3) Que?
The biggest plot hole is the entire link from S2 to ANF
If with Kenny - less than a month after he dies you meet Ava and apparently age a year
Jane - Somehow Clem finds herself in the EXACT same spot at the EXACT same time and meets Ava! Crazy!
Wellington/Alone - Same shit. Somehow we reach the EXACT same point at the EXACT same time despite the fact that we were all in different locations.
And touching upon the ep 4 flashbacks with the 1 month and 13 month part, this makes no fucking sense. Going off the Kenny flashback due to it being only a 1 month jump and we know more about what happened than Jane:
Within 1 month, Kenny died, Clem meets Ava, Clem joins a New Frontier (even if you said no and resisted, although never shown because choices dont matter) stayed long enough she decided to be branded, Aj gets sick and she goes to help him, gets kicked out, and then meets Ava again who tells her to go to Prescott. All of that happened in a month. So what the fuck, was Clem in the New Frontier for like a whole whopping week? lmao.
Within 1 month, Kenny died, Clem meets Ava, Clem joins a New Frontier (even if you said no and resisted, although never shown because choices dont matter) stayed long enough she decided to be branded, Aj gets sick and she goes to help him, gets kicked out, and then meets Ava again who tells her to go to Prescott. All of that happened in a month. So what the fuck, was Clem in the New Frontier for like a whole whopping week? lmao.
The biggest plot hole is the entire link from S2 to ANF
If with Kenny - less than a month after he dies you meet Ava and apparently age a… more year
Jane - Somehow Clem finds herself in the EXACT same spot at the EXACT same time and meets Ava! Crazy!
Wellington/Alone - Same shit. Somehow we reach the EXACT same point at the EXACT same time despite the fact that we were all in different locations.
And touching upon the ep 4 flashbacks with the 1 month and 13 month part, this makes no fucking sense. Going off the Kenny flashback due to it being only a 1 month jump and we know more about what happened than Jane:
Within 1 month, Kenny died, Clem meets Ava, Clem joins a New Frontier (even if you said no and resisted, although never shown because choices dont matter) stayed long enough she decided to be branded, Aj gets sick and she goes to help him, gets kicked out, and then meets Ava again who tells her to go to Prescott. All of that hap… [view original content]
Not a plot hole exactly but replaying and realized something and it's really bugging me.
Ok I shot Conrad in Episode 2 and didn't tell Tripp and Jesus about Clem being a former ANF member when they asked where she disappeared to.
Later, in Episode 3, Clem has her final ANF flashback and tells Javi, Trip, and Jesus about how David took AJ from her and kicked her out.
This is the first time Tripp or Jesus are learning about Clem being former ANF yet neither said a word about it. This is especially out of character for Tripp, who based on his previous behavior would be expected to go on a wild rant about how she was former ANF.
Yeah, Tripp was pretty inconsistant throughout most of ANF on top of being poorly defined. Though ironically, you could argue that his lack of overreaction there is closer to his original characterization, even if it doesn't make much sense either way.
Not a plot hole exactly but replaying and realized something and it's really bugging me.
Ok I shot Conrad in Episode 2 and didn't tell Tr… moreipp and Jesus about Clem being a former ANF member when they asked where she disappeared to.
Later, in Episode 3, Clem has her final ANF flashback and tells Javi, Trip, and Jesus about how David took AJ from her and kicked her out.
This is the first time Tripp or Jesus are learning about Clem being former ANF yet neither said a word about it. This is especially out of character for Tripp, who based on his previous behavior would be expected to go on a wild rant about how she was former ANF.
It is not as bad than a guy falling being eating alive intestin first and screaming then episodes after oh wait no the other guy fall on him and it is that man undeads eat !
Only one I can think of off the top of my head but man did/does it bother me a lot.
Episode 5, right at the beginning. Kate drives into t… morehe barricade, the engine? explodes, and Javi rushes to see if she's okay. Mind you, we're in full view of this as we make our way over to her, fighting through the walkers and people firing at us. So we get there and she's not there, we retreat and then Kate poofs herself there a moment later?
How in the fuck did that happen? You're seriously trying to tell me this previously injured woman (from 2 days ago I believe); crashed head-first, had an explosion happen right in front of her, and had threats on all sides... and she managed to slip-out of the vehicle unnoticed by us, completely fine and uninjured, and was even able to bash a walker a minute or two after??
This is just terrible and goes beyond plot convenience and just becomes a massive hole, not to say I wanted Kate to be utterly helpless aga… [view original content]
I played twd 1 first game and second parted from years and I can assure you can have 2 differnt Kenny version, by the way you react, my first Kenny was a total jerk always disagree with me subtitle in orange
My last game Kenny was rather nice and subtitles was green
Javier tells Tripp, Eleanor, and that-Paul-guy(and determinately Conrad and Clementine) that he only knows Kate because he was the best man at David's wedding.
However, he and Kate joke about their days in middleschool while waiting for Ava to report in the van.
Javier tells Tripp, Eleanor, and that-Paul-guy(and determinately Conrad and Clementine) that he only knows Kate because he was the best man … moreat David's wedding.
However, he and Kate joke about their days in middleschool while waiting for Ava to report in the van.
However, he and Kate joke about their days in middleschool while waiting for Ava to report in the van.
Kate gave "boners under mathbooks" as an example. It doesn't mean that they were in the same school.
However, he and Kate joke about their days in middleschool while waiting for Ava to report in the van.
Kate gave "boners under mathbooks" as an example. It doesn't mean that they were in the same school.
I'd imagine that Kate must have went a different route because how did she get the armoured truck into Richmond square? I guess she went the same way as she took the armoured truck and with Javier with her she knew she had somebody to help open the gate, but without him she had to go the long way.
Keeping Conrad alive is honestly the biggest plot hole in the season. He halfheartedly apologizes to Javi but Gabe and Clem never comment on his previously deranged behavior.
To be fair, he and Clementine were in quarantine together for a while, so they probably set things straight then. Plus, they don't get many more scenes together anyway, unfortunately, so it's kind of a moot point.
Gabe, on the other hand, has no excuse. Stupid rewrites.
Keeping Conrad alive is honestly the biggest plot hole in the season. He halfheartedly apologizes to Javi but Gabe and Clem never comment on his previously deranged behavior.
Plot hole or just a HUGE convenience that Javi and co. came across a working generator, car, motorcycle, and construction vehicle filled wit… moreh gas and in good condition to work at a moments notice.
Also Javier knows how to drive a motorcycle literally out of nowhere and maybe Clementine as well (I made her go with Kate)?
The thing that bugged me about that junkyard was there were zero New Frontier symbols to be found. None on the signage, none on the vehicles… more, none on or in the trailer, none anywhere. Javi wouldn't have known what they were BUT for a group that loved to put their symbol everywhere (as evidenced by it being all over everything in Richmond), they for some reason chose not to mark the junkyard as their territory.
Well there are usually small few minute time skips where javier is with gabe that we don't get to see so chances are that javier told gabe to forgive Conrad off screen.
To be fair, he and Clementine were in quarantine together for a while, so they probably set things straight then. Plus, they don't get many … moremore scenes together anyway, unfortunately, so it's kind of a moot point.
Gabe, on the other hand, has no excuse. Stupid rewrites.
Well there are usually small few minute time skips where javier is with gabe that we don't get to see so chances are that javier told gabe to forgive Conrad off screen.
To be fair, he and Clementine were in quarantine together for a while, so they probably set things straight then. Plus, they don't get many … moremore scenes together anyway, unfortunately, so it's kind of a moot point.
Gabe, on the other hand, has no excuse. Stupid rewrites.
Eli's bullets. OK. If they were bad, why did they actually work and why did he start to act fearful as the conversation went on? If they were good, why didn't he point out her gun could be jammed or immediately act fearful? OK. He's tough guy dick, but she's pointing a loaded gun at him and firing it. Shouldn't he show some concern?
How did Lonnie beat them to New Richmond? He took off on foot since he was being chased by Clem and Jesus. They had a vehicle. Nevermind the herd.
Clem will save you from walkers telling you you're even now even if you literally never save her or side with her (and fail a couple QTE's so she saves you multiple times). Also, unlike, say Kenny from Season 1, she's still awesome with you if you oppose her at every turn and are never nice to her.
Why are Ava Clem only friends in the flashbacks?
Why does Clem talk to Kate about her menstruation? I can kinda see Javier since they're friends. But Ava is also her friend. Eleanor is an actual doctor. Kate on the other hand, never really spoke to Clem. I am literally do my fourth playthrough right now and can't think of anything they have said to each other. I know Javier suggested Kate, but it just seems weird since Kate is literally the worst choice (unless Wellington/Alone Clem choose to be a jerk to Ava in the Episode 4 flashback).
A New Frontier and Richmond. People addressed the wonkiness of the timing on Clementine's side. But there's a lot of questions here. Apparently, A New Frontier didn't start Richmond. Jesus even says they took over. Jesus accepts his friends have been executed. But there's no real discontent. No one seems to have a problem with the New Frontier in charge. I mean it's sad. There was real potential here. Imagine if Javier joined up with the original inhabits to get rid of the New Frontier. It would even give a reason that he would be considered a possible leader rather than he was the main character.
Speaking of Jesus's friends.... It's a major problem with the New Frontier as a whole. They are FAR to inconsistent. Sure. They try to play the "evil" new Frontier off on Joan, but they apparently killed Jesus's friends (and if they were in Richmond, then it's hard to blame them on Joan's people). And it's hard to believe Jesus made them up, since that's the only conceivable reason he wasn't already leading an army after they raided the Kingdom. They took over a settlement. I assume that like most people, they didn't just open up their doors to this armed group who were doing worse than they were and put them in charge. So, violence would have been a factor. But we're supposed to believe most of them were good people.
What did everyone think Joan did? If she was having settlements raided, how was she maintaining relations with other settlements (also known as her job). If she claim the stuff got from raiding was trade, a) who brought it since she was using David's men to do the raiding and b) did anyone wonder why no settlement want anything in return?
How could Joan's raids go unnoticed? She seemed to be using everyone but Ava under David. How could either them not notice that something was going on when so many of their people were being used?
Who was in charge? Max or Badger?
Javier, Clem, and Gabe survived the hanging. If you try not to pick, Joan's men pull guns on the backs of Gabe and Clem. Why didn't they just shoot once Javier/David started the gun fight? And it's not like Javier was that far away.......
Not really a plot hole, but it's kinda ridiculous that Javier surives by using running people as human shields. I mean, seriously? What are the honest chances of that happening once, much less the two or three times he pulls it off.
If the tunnel to Richmond was blocked off, how did they get all of their cars there. Why didn't they run into Javier and the others?
How did they have time to loot Prescott, hide all of the stuff, and return to Richmond? Sure, they had cars while Javi's group was at least partly on foot, but considering Kate was still alive, they weren't that far behind. So, it's not like they were walking that long. But after having to deal with the walkers, loot Prescott so thoroughly that they grabbed the broken arcade game, drive it back to the supply depot, unload it, and return to Richmond, they still managed to rotate back into guard duty before Javier and company got there. OK. This might explain why the tunnel was blocked off since they took a different route, but it doesn't explain how the timing.
Well they had an entire day to move everything and clear out any walkers so the could have done it in 24 hours, and javier and his group got to the warehouse nearly or exactly a day after Prescott was attacked.
* If the tunnel to Richmond was blocked off, how did they get all of their cars there. Why didn't they run into Javier and the others?
* Ho… morew did they have time to loot Prescott, hide all of the stuff, and return to Richmond? Sure, they had cars while Javi's group was at least partly on foot, but considering Kate was still alive, they weren't that far behind. So, it's not like they were walking that long. But after having to deal with the walkers, loot Prescott so thoroughly that they grabbed the broken arcade game, drive it back to the supply depot, unload it, and return to Richmond, they still managed to rotate back into guard duty before Javier and company got there. OK. This might explain why the tunnel was blocked off since they took a different route, but it doesn't explain how the timing.
But they were already at Richmond before the group got to Richmond. Unless, you're saying they came back to Richmond, welcomed Javier, and then left. But by that time David was informed that they had kill Mari. He would have noticed the movement of such a large group that would be needed to do that.
Well they had an entire day to move everything and clear out any walkers so the could have done it in 24 hours, and javier and his group got to the warehouse nearly or exactly a day after Prescott was attacked.
But they were already at Richmond before the group got to Richmond. Unless, you're saying they came back to Richmond, welcomed Javier, and t… morehen left. But by that time David was informed that they had kill Mari. He would have noticed the movement of such a large group that would be needed to do that.
Yeah. Me too. Javier and his group should have beat them to Richmond since they took time clear out Richmond, load it up, take it to the warehouse, and unload it. But Max was on guard duty. Considering Kate was in no worse condition than when we last saw her, it couldn't have been that long. A few hours maybe? It still seems like doing all that stuff should take longer than that since they were still fighting when Javier's crew fled Prescott.
I'm talking about the raiders getting to Richmond before Javier did. Not getting that stuff to the warehouse before Javier reached the warehouse.
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Telltale needed someway to make the story linear again. This was one of the easiest (but shameful) possible solutions.
To be fair, the New Frontier kicked her out in a certain area and Ava was the reason she even knew about Prescott, which is where she decided to head after meeting Javier.
Even before that Clementine still went in the exact same location with AJ just before meeting Ava.
That audio error bugs me every time it happens. It's like they cut her lines up and stitched them back together but then screwed up and left that one little part in in two separate lines.
David really is a sore loser and a sore winner and just a shitty person in general. I lost all patience with him when at the batting cage flashback he gets all pissed at Javi, a professional level baseball player, for being good at hitting baseballs in the batting cages, which David brought him to to cheer him up after being banned. What did he expect was going to happen? Did he expect Javi would have lost all of his talent, like the league took it away from him lol?
What about permanent choices? Like how Clem talks about keeping her hair short with Luke.
What is there in this spin-off series that stayed permanent from Season 1 character interactions?
btw it honestly doesn't matter, at all, with who do you go in S2 at the end, if Clem is going to end up being the same irrational and edgy bad-ass who cant develop further.
The thing that bugged me about that junkyard was there were zero New Frontier symbols to be found. None on the signage, none on the vehicles, none on or in the trailer, none anywhere. Javi wouldn't have known what they were BUT for a group that loved to put their symbol everywhere (as evidenced by it being all over everything in Richmond), they for some reason chose not to mark the junkyard as their territory.
How did Katedrive the bulldozer into Richmond when the gates were locked and Jesus was outside killing walkers so obviously he never knew she was in there or anything?
This is for the ending where she is alone and Clem and Javi save Gabe and David
...True.
Yeah, that is strange. I can only assume since it was that trio, they'd fairly recently secured the location as a buffer point to relax in between raids.
....O+O
lmao
The biggest plot hole is the entire link from S2 to ANF
If with Kenny - less than a month after he dies you meet Ava and apparently age a year
Jane - Somehow Clem finds herself in the EXACT same spot at the EXACT same time and meets Ava! Crazy!
Wellington/Alone - Same shit. Somehow we reach the EXACT same point at the EXACT same time despite the fact that we were all in different locations.
And touching upon the ep 4 flashbacks with the 1 month and 13 month part, this makes no fucking sense. Going off the Kenny flashback due to it being only a 1 month jump and we know more about what happened than Jane:
Within 1 month, Kenny died, Clem meets Ava, Clem joins a New Frontier (even if you said no and resisted, although never shown because choices dont matter) stayed long enough she decided to be branded, Aj gets sick and she goes to help him, gets kicked out, and then meets Ava again who tells her to go to Prescott. All of that happened in a month. So what the fuck, was Clem in the New Frontier for like a whole whopping week? lmao.
Yeah, that is something that's been bugging me.
Eggs.
Not a plot hole exactly but replaying and realized something and it's really bugging me.
Ok I shot Conrad in Episode 2 and didn't tell Tripp and Jesus about Clem being a former ANF member when they asked where she disappeared to.
Later, in Episode 3, Clem has her final ANF flashback and tells Javi, Trip, and Jesus about how David took AJ from her and kicked her out.
This is the first time Tripp or Jesus are learning about Clem being former ANF yet neither said a word about it. This is especially out of character for Tripp, who based on his previous behavior would be expected to go on a wild rant about how she was former ANF.
Yeah, Tripp was pretty inconsistant throughout most of ANF on top of being poorly defined. Though ironically, you could argue that his lack of overreaction there is closer to his original characterization, even if it doesn't make much sense either way.
It is not as bad than a guy falling being eating alive intestin first and screaming then episodes after oh wait no the other guy fall on him and it is that man undeads eat !
Fucking bad show
I played twd 1 first game and second parted from years and I can assure you can have 2 differnt Kenny version, by the way you react, my first Kenny was a total jerk always disagree with me subtitle in orange
My last game Kenny was rather nice and subtitles was green
Javier tells Tripp, Eleanor, and that-Paul-guy(and determinately Conrad and Clementine) that he only knows Kate because he was the best man at David's wedding.
However, he and Kate joke about their days in middleschool while waiting for Ava to report in the van.
Kate gave "boners under mathbooks" as an example. It doesn't mean that they were in the same school.
"Oh, we noticed."
Either way, it still means they did know each other.
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I'd imagine that Kate must have went a different route because how did she get the armoured truck into Richmond square? I guess she went the same way as she took the armoured truck and with Javier with her she knew she had somebody to help open the gate, but without him she had to go the long way.
Keeping Conrad alive is honestly the biggest plot hole in the season. He halfheartedly apologizes to Javi but Gabe and Clem never comment on his previously deranged behavior.
To be fair, he and Clementine were in quarantine together for a while, so they probably set things straight then. Plus, they don't get many more scenes together anyway, unfortunately, so it's kind of a moot point.
Gabe, on the other hand, has no excuse. Stupid rewrites.
The whole game is a giant plot hole
Well, I find the idea Javier knowing to be fine. He had some money as a ball player, so owning a motorcycle makes some sense.
Clem on the other hand.... And yeah, she takes it if you she goes after Gabe alone.
Actually, that one does make sense. If it's not an official spot and more a place to stage raids, it would make sense that it was not marked.
Well there are usually small few minute time skips where javier is with gabe that we don't get to see so chances are that javier told gabe to forgive Conrad off screen.
Well there are usually small few minute time skips where javier is with gabe that we don't get to see so chances are that javier told gabe to forgive Conrad off screen.
She probably meant "we girls in general notice this."
Are you guys trying to say that ANF was..... slapped together at the last minute???????
(dramatic music)
Well they had an entire day to move everything and clear out any walkers so the could have done it in 24 hours, and javier and his group got to the warehouse nearly or exactly a day after Prescott was attacked.
But they were already at Richmond before the group got to Richmond. Unless, you're saying they came back to Richmond, welcomed Javier, and then left. But by that time David was informed that they had kill Mari. He would have noticed the movement of such a large group that would be needed to do that.
I'm talking about the people who raided Prescott moving stuff right after raiding using their trucks
Yeah. Me too. Javier and his group should have beat them to Richmond since they took time clear out Richmond, load it up, take it to the warehouse, and unload it. But Max was on guard duty. Considering Kate was in no worse condition than when we last saw her, it couldn't have been that long. A few hours maybe? It still seems like doing all that stuff should take longer than that since they were still fighting when Javier's crew fled Prescott.
I'm talking about the raiders getting to Richmond before Javier did. Not getting that stuff to the warehouse before Javier reached the warehouse.