season 1:
* i don't like carley
* didn't care about molly (don't want her to return in s4 either?)
season 2:
* was the worst … moretwdg season (episode one is my favorite premiere episode of all the seasons tho)
* hate everyone in the cabin (besides luke)
* i don't like jane, she's incredibly selfish and in the end only cares about herself
* don't like bonnie
* kenny saved s2
* i didn't like playing as clementine
anf:
* wayy better than s2
* i actually love gabe
* i don't like kate
* i hate everyone from prescott
* javi was a great protagonist, i'm really invested in him and his story. i hope we see more of him. (but lee is forever #1 in protagonists, no question)
* kenny's character model wasn't bad
Max is undeserving of people's sympathy. He participated in the raiding, started shit with Javi over some gasoline, tries to kill David in a sneaky ass way, and then begs like a coward once he loses the fight he started.
Killing him and therefore Lonnie as well is the right choice since they dont reappear again and it makes sure the raiding stops.
This. Even exposing Joan is pointless because her people still stay on her side despite the fact that they did know she was the cause of death of a lot of communities that were just minding their own business.
Max is undeserving of people's sympathy. He participated in the raiding, started shit with Javi over some gasoline, tries to kill David in a… more sneaky ass way, and then begs like a coward once he loses the fight he started.
Killing him and therefore Lonnie as well is the right choice since they dont reappear again and it makes sure the raiding stops.
Conrad is overrated. Why is he the only determinant character who gets to live until the end if you spare him? Nick, Sarah, Tripp and Ava deserved better than him.
Conrad is overrated. Why is he the only determinant character who gets to live until the end if you spare him? Nick, Sarah, Tripp and Ava deserved better than him.
Personally, I didn't like Kate because she had no morals with family, but she was definitely a better (worked on) character than Trip, Elle, Joan and Clint.
To be fair, I don't think he was actually trying to kill David, just create smokescreen so they can split. Particularly since he was right up on him and yet didn't hit him the number of times he shot. Plus, Javier was technically intruding on their land after another group apparently did the same some time ago.
Also, he and Lonnie were apparently exiled from Richmond for their part in the raids, so Joan can't really use them anymore.
Max is undeserving of people's sympathy. He participated in the raiding, started shit with Javi over some gasoline, tries to kill David in a… more sneaky ass way, and then begs like a coward once he loses the fight he started.
Killing him and therefore Lonnie as well is the right choice since they dont reappear again and it makes sure the raiding stops.
Max could have tried talking, he was literally the first one to fire a shot. Him missing David was not intentional, it was simply because David is a trained soldier and jumped behind cover. He absolutely wanted to kill David before David did the same to him.
And maybe Joan can't use them, but that doesn't mean they wont resort back to banditry and raiding back on the road where supplies are scarce.
To be fair, I don't think he was actually trying to kill David, just create smokescreen so they can split. Particularly since he was right u… morep on him and yet didn't hit him the number of times he shot. Plus, Javier was technically intruding on their land after another group apparently did the same some time ago.
Also, he and Lonnie were apparently exiled from Richmond for their part in the raids, so Joan can't really use them anymore.
Nick was a great character. If you go with him instead of Pete he distracts the walkers so Clem can escape. He took the shot at Matthew because he was scared for his friends. Then when we discover the truth he wants to do the right thing and confess to Walter immediately.
Nick was a good guy and deserves better than dying on some damned fence.
Probably because they had already fucked up big time with Nick and Sarah and really wanted to do things differently. Plus, Conrad's relatively minor role after his arc was completed and his absence from most of From the Gallows, while it wasn't what was originally intended, both meant that he could be ignored and thus spared, while Tripp(who they were trying to push as Javier's best friend) and Ava(David's lieutenant who played a key role in establishing his history with Clementine) were both personally involved at that point and could've had too big an effect on the story if they had lived.
Conrad is overrated. Why is he the only determinant character who gets to live until the end if you spare him? Nick, Sarah, Tripp and Ava deserved better than him.
So let me ask you again, if you were in that situation, would you try to save :
1- an useless adult, good at heart, someone you could get along..
2- an useless brat, with no brain, someone you obviously can't stand
What is really the right thing to do?
Honestly, for many of us, there was no attachment, nor affection towards Gabe's character.
From episode 1 to almost the end, he was just like a bratty David.
Nick definitely had a better character, even likeable.
Max could have tried talking, he was literally the first one to fire a shot. Him missing David was not intentional, it was simply because David is a trained soldier and jumped behind cover. He absolutely wanted to kill David before David did the same to him.
Well, consider it's David and the two are relatively old friends, I can kinda see why he didn't. But I get what you're sayin.
Also, from what I'm seeing here, David wasn't really behind cover at that point since there's clearly some debris from Max's gunshots not too far away and Badger barely avoided getting hit when Daivd returned fire as the other two split.
And maybe Joan can't use them, but that doesn't mean they wont resort back to banditry and raiding back on the road where supplies are scarce.
Huh. You know, for some reason, all I'm imagining right now is the two of them shaking someone down...and getting their asses handed to them.
Max could have tried talking, he was literally the first one to fire a shot. Him missing David was not intentional, it was simply because Da… morevid is a trained soldier and jumped behind cover. He absolutely wanted to kill David before David did the same to him.
And maybe Joan can't use them, but that doesn't mean they wont resort back to banditry and raiding back on the road where supplies are scarce.
Not sure I guess I probably try to stay alone rather than near these 2 !
If I get killed I prefer to be because my random idiocy rather than the idiocy of another random idiot XD
So let me ask you again, if you were in that situation, would you try to save :
1- an useless adult, good at heart, someone you could get… more along..
2- an useless brat, with no brain, someone you obviously can't stand
What is really the right thing to do?
Honestly, for many of us, there was no attachment, nor affection towards Gabe's character.
From episode 1 to almost the end, he was just like a bratty David.
Nick definitely had a better character, even likeable.
What is really the right thing to do ?
You mean if it was the real life ?
Not sure I guess I probably try to stay alone rather than ne… morear these 2 !
If I get killed I prefer to be because my random idiocy rather than the idiocy of another random idiot XD
I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of Kenny-types and I think I'd much prefer a third/fourth Lilly type to yet another knockoff of the game series's most overexposed character.
Max could have tried talking, he was literally the first one to fire a shot. Him missing David was not intentional, it was simply because Da… morevid is a trained soldier and jumped behind cover. He absolutely wanted to kill David before David did the same to him.
Well, consider it's David and the two are relatively old friends, I can kinda see why he didn't. But I get what you're sayin.
Also, from what I'm seeing here, David wasn't really behind cover at that point since there's clearly some debris from Max's gunshots not too far away and Badger barely avoided getting hit when Daivd returned fire as the other two split.
And maybe Joan can't use them, but that doesn't mean they wont resort back to banditry and raiding back on the road where supplies are scarce.
Huh. You know, for some reason, all I'm imagining right now is the two of them shaking someone down...and getting their asses handed to them.
I mean in terms of what they do and why they do it, not that they're basically the same, just very similar character arcs.
Both of their characters essentially start going off the deep end after losing everything. For Lilly it's Larry, for Kenny it's Duck, Katjia and Sarita. Both stop trusting people expect for Lee & Clementine. They also become very angry and other characters worry that they could snap at any moment. In S2 Lee talked about why Lilly kills Doug/Carley at the same time Kenny was going through a very similar thing. "Bad things happen to everyone and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do"
I suppose, but there's still key differences that separate the two, such as what they are, how they think, what drives them, etc. And you can't tell me the constant emphasis on Kenny or Kenny-clones isn't gotten old by this point, can you?
I mean in terms of what they do and why they do it, not that they're basically the same, just very similar character arcs.
Both of their … morecharacters essentially start going off the deep end after losing everything. For Lilly it's Larry, for Kenny it's Duck, Katjia and Sarita. Both stop trusting people expect for Lee & Clementine. They also become very angry and other characters worry that they could snap at any moment. In S2 Lee talked about why Lilly kills Doug/Carley at the same time Kenny was going through a very similar thing. "Bad things happen to everyone and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do"
I suppose, but there's still key differences that separate the two, such as what they are, how they think, what drives them, etc. And you can't tell me the constant emphasis on Kenny or Kenny-clones isn't gotten old by this point, can you?
It's still an Angry Dad, who the story's constant attempts to prove is totally deep and complex at the cost of somewhat overshadowing the rest of the cast, attacking and trying to kill someone because he lost too much or some shit.
Well, sorry I'm (much more) late now, lol, but here it is:
Clem and Ben yes, but honestly i don't give a s*** about Sarita and Sarah and Arvo didn't mean much to me. Becca is overrated, but for me Kenny and Lilly are the best characters in the game in terms of being unique, each in their own way
season 1:
* i don't like carley
* didn't care about molly (don't want her to return in s4 either?)
season 2:
* was the worst … moretwdg season (episode one is my favorite premiere episode of all the seasons tho)
* hate everyone in the cabin (besides luke)
* i don't like jane, she's incredibly selfish and in the end only cares about herself
* don't like bonnie
* kenny saved s2
* i didn't like playing as clementine
anf:
* wayy better than s2
* i actually love gabe
* i don't like kate
* i hate everyone from prescott
* javi was a great protagonist, i'm really invested in him and his story. i hope we see more of him. (but lee is forever #1 in protagonists, no question)
* kenny's character model wasn't bad
Well, sorry I'm (much more) late now, lol, but here it is:
Clem and Ben yes, but honestly i don't give a s*** about Sarita and Sarah and … moreArvo didn't mean much to me. Becca is overrated, but for me Kenny and Lilly are the best characters in the game in terms of being unique, each in their own way
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edit: conrad is the only bearable one from prescott
Max is undeserving of people's sympathy. He participated in the raiding, started shit with Javi over some gasoline, tries to kill David in a sneaky ass way, and then begs like a coward once he loses the fight he started.
Killing him and therefore Lonnie as well is the right choice since they dont reappear again and it makes sure the raiding stops.
3 of us
This. Even exposing Joan is pointless because her people still stay on her side despite the fact that they did know she was the cause of death of a lot of communities that were just minding their own business.
Conrad is overrated. Why is he the only determinant character who gets to live until the end if you spare him? Nick, Sarah, Tripp and Ava deserved better than him.
Nick was useless, worst he put every one else in danger because his actions !
Personally, I didn't like Kate because she had no morals with family, but she was definitely a better (worked on) character than Trip, Elle, Joan and Clint.
He tried his best, his actions are less worse than Gabe's actions.
If you are dying because someone ; would you think : " Nah that's ok, he tried his best" XD
Gabe is a shit too but at least he is a teen for excuse !
Nick is an adult, he only survived because the group
To be fair, I don't think he was actually trying to kill David, just create smokescreen so they can split. Particularly since he was right up on him and yet didn't hit him the number of times he shot. Plus, Javier was technically intruding on their land after another group apparently did the same some time ago.
Also, he and Lonnie were apparently exiled from Richmond for their part in the raids, so Joan can't really use them anymore.
Yeah it was quite silly how everyone treated David like a monster over that. Like hello, the woman just pointed a loaded gun at us.
Max could have tried talking, he was literally the first one to fire a shot. Him missing David was not intentional, it was simply because David is a trained soldier and jumped behind cover. He absolutely wanted to kill David before David did the same to him.
And maybe Joan can't use them, but that doesn't mean they wont resort back to banditry and raiding back on the road where supplies are scarce.
Nick was a great character. If you go with him instead of Pete he distracts the walkers so Clem can escape. He took the shot at Matthew because he was scared for his friends. Then when we discover the truth he wants to do the right thing and confess to Walter immediately.
Nick was a good guy and deserves better than dying on some damned fence.
Probably because they had already fucked up big time with Nick and Sarah and really wanted to do things differently. Plus, Conrad's relatively minor role after his arc was completed and his absence from most of From the Gallows, while it wasn't what was originally intended, both meant that he could be ignored and thus spared, while Tripp(who they were trying to push as Javier's best friend) and Ava(David's lieutenant who played a key role in establishing his history with Clementine) were both personally involved at that point and could've had too big an effect on the story if they had lived.
So let me ask you again, if you were in that situation, would you try to save :
1- an useless adult, good at heart, someone you could get along..
2- an useless brat, with no brain, someone you obviously can't stand
What is really the right thing to do?
Honestly, for many of us, there was no attachment, nor affection towards Gabe's character.
From episode 1 to almost the end, he was just like a bratty David.
Nick definitely had a better character, even likeable.
There wasn't enough handwaving in ANF.
Well, consider it's David and the two are relatively old friends, I can kinda see why he didn't. But I get what you're sayin.
Also, from what I'm seeing here, David wasn't really behind cover at that point since there's clearly some debris from Max's gunshots not too far away and Badger barely avoided getting hit when Daivd returned fire as the other two split.
Huh. You know, for some reason, all I'm imagining right now is the two of them shaking someone down...and getting their asses handed to them.
What is really the right thing to do ?
You mean if it was the real life ?
Not sure I guess I probably try to stay alone rather than near these 2 !
If I get killed I prefer to be because my random idiocy rather than the idiocy of another random idiot XD
Hate to break it to you but Kenny and Lilly are basically the same type of character.
All I'm saying is that people don't start a firefight with you just to miss intentionally. Max would have killed David if he was a better shot
I suppose I get what you mean, but explain anyway.
Really, I'm also sick of the constant reliance on the "Angry Dad" trope to drive the story.
Season 2 is shit.
I mean in terms of what they do and why they do it, not that they're basically the same, just very similar character arcs.
Both of their characters essentially start going off the deep end after losing everything. For Lilly it's Larry, for Kenny it's Duck, Katjia and Sarita. Both stop trusting people expect for Lee & Clementine. They also become very angry and other characters worry that they could snap at any moment. In S2 Lee talked about why Lilly kills Doug/Carley at the same time Kenny was going through a very similar thing. "Bad things happen to everyone and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do"
Then I give them both guns, they sucks so much they probably killed each others by accident 30 minutes after that
The bottleneck of hate being aimed at Kate after Above the Law kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
I suppose, but there's still key differences that separate the two, such as what they are, how they think, what drives them, etc. And you can't tell me the constant emphasis on Kenny or Kenny-clones isn't gotten old by this point, can you?
I can because in my opinion David isn't a Kenny clone.
Egh. Lucky you.
Indeed!
But for real though, From the Gallows fell back on the Angry Dad climax yet again, more or less rehashing Season 2's.
It really didn't. I'd really compare David trying to kill Javi to Kenny trying to kill Jane and even those were pretty different.
It's still an Angry Dad, who the story's constant attempts to prove is totally deep and complex at the cost of somewhat overshadowing the rest of the cast, attacking and trying to kill someone because he lost too much or some shit.
I honestly don't care about Clementine much anymore.
Well, sorry I'm (much more) late now, lol, but here it is:
Clem and Ben yes, but honestly i don't give a s*** about Sarita and Sarah and Arvo didn't mean much to me. Becca is overrated, but for me Kenny and Lilly are the best characters in the game in terms of being unique, each in their own way
You love Gabe? ..........WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
Great minds think alike? Have the same opinion? I dunno.
Oh, so you just forgot to punctuate--my bad!
...Yeah....