1 - Can you show your research? The data that you gathered and the method used that lead to that ratio? I guess not
3 - You said it, it wasn't me, "I'm starting to believe that people only ship..." Third paragraph.
4 - The game literally shows he not doing something when asked, i'm not saying he is useless, but he is immature.
5 - Yes we can't count, thats why you can't say that Violet fans tend to be more agressive then Louis fans, its just a lie or baseless assertion.
* Not a lot more though. From all the pools I've seen it was basically 6:4 ratio which isn't that big difference.
* Of course I'm saying th… moreat. We've all met those two people in one episode and we've all seen who is who. For me Violet isn't interesting and that's why I made that topic to understand why people think she is.
* That's not true. I just think that for me there aren't really any strong arguments and from what I read many people indeed do feel sorry for her and want to be with her so she gets to be happy.
* Immature people wouldn't live for almost a decade in this kind of world. He gets shit done when he is asked to.
* There are more, but not that much more as you may think. Still arguing about that one isn't going to make anyone happy since you have your point and I have mine. We won't count it cause it would be pretty impossible to do so.
I based it on two strawpools on this forum. They're in S.S Louine topic if I'm not wrong. Sorry, but I'm not really going to search 10+ pages for them. Not now at least.
I did say it, but I didn't accuse anybody of anything. I have read many comments and bunch of them were like this.
He doesn't do what? Marlon told him to go hunting. He did go hunting. Besides it was Louis who builded up the traps for walkers. Also probably he helped bulding the other ones. So he has done many things for their community, but he is getting shit cause he spent 2 minutes on playing with a walker. Give the lad a break.
It was just from my observation, if I would know that it would become such a problem I wouldn't even really put in the topic. Observation doesn't mean I read comments on every their topic, every YT video or anything. But still. From what I read I saw a big difference so that's why I decided to write it. You don't have to agree with that. Well. You can even prove me wrong and you did it.
1 - Can you show your research? The data that you gathered and the method used that lead to that ratio? I guess not
3 - You said it, it was… moren't me, "I'm starting to believe that people only ship..." Third paragraph.
4 - The game literally shows he not doing something when asked, i'm not saying he is useless, but he is immature.
5 - Yes we can't count, thats why you can't say that Violet fans tend to be more agressive then Louis fans, its just a lie or baseless assertion.
I'll keep it simple here:
For me, Vi has had a lot more development in comparison to Louis (mostly due to my choices). That's simply the … morereason why I prefer her over Jaden. Both seem to be great characters with lots of potential, but the scales are slighty tipped towards Vi's end due to the amount of development she received in E1, in comparison to Lou (in my playthrough).
That's all there is to it.
"Oh c'mon. He was playing with that walker for 2-3 minutes."
You cannot deny the fact that this was a very dumb thing to do. I'm one of those that prefer Louis more and I admit that this was very dumb of him, I agree with him saying that survival is more of "day-to-day" task, after all you gotta enjoy your life, otherwise what's the point of living? But that was NOT what I meant, I got frustrated with the walker pinata, you can say to AJ that walkers were once people and he beats them for fun in front of AJ while he is on duty.
Oh c'mon. He was playing with that walker for 2-3 minutes. Don't act like he doesn't do anything. By looking at AJ's behaviour and attitude … moreright now I would rather have Louis on my side to let him be an older brother figure to AJ. He doesn't need anymore serious people in his life. The thing is he needs people that will make him feel like life is worth living and people that will make him feel like kid for a bit.
Dude. People are people. Walkers are walkers. Just because they were people at some point it doesn't mean that you can't have fun with them. It's a rotten corspe with one part of the brain that still "lives". They did so much bad things to the world that having fun with them is at least something that can be considered good.
"Oh c'mon. He was playing with that walker for 2-3 minutes."
You cannot deny the fact that this was a very dumb thing to do. I'm one of t… morehose that prefer Louis more and I admit that this was very dumb of him, I agree with him saying that survival is more of "day-to-day" task, after all you gotta enjoy your life, otherwise what's the point of living? But that was NOT what I meant, I got frustrated with the walker pinata, you can say to AJ that walkers were once people and he beats them for fun in front of AJ while he is on duty.
Stare down when walking with Marlon, interaction at the gate, interactions inside the forest with Lou, card game scene, conversation with Clem at her room, the whole fishing scene and appeal to Vi choice at the end. All those scenes gave her character some development. And we're 100% sure to get more in future episodes.
Don't know if this was what you were after but yw anyways.
Stare down when walking with Marlon, interaction at the gate, interactions inside the forest with Lou, card game scene, conversation with Cl… moreem at her room, the whole fishing scene and appeal to Vi choice at the end. All those scenes gave her character some development. And we're 100% sure to get more in future episodes.
Don't know if this was what you were after but yw anyways.
I really didn't like it when he gave his food to AJ, xd. The way he was looking at Clem while handing AJ the food made it pretty clear that … morehe only did it because he wanted to f*ck Clem lol.
I can understand how people might look at the scene differently, though.
I will say that I'm currently having Clem with Louis, however I can see the appeal of Vi.
She has a close connection to Tenn, which the majority of players like.
Some players are keeping a somber tone for the season, and her pathway maintains a serious, darker tone.
I was a bit turned off by some of Louis' humor. Some of it felt like dad jokes. I do like his upbeat nature, his attentiveness to both AJ and Clem, but I do wish he didn't have such a live in the moment way about him and some of his aspects were more like Aasim.
Cheap shot, but she has a better weapon than Chairles.
Seemed on the surface to be the path to offer the most drama with her having a previous relationship with a missing girl.
Fishing was more fun than hunting rabbits or Whack a Walker.
I really hate to have to say anything about the matter, but honestly, because she's LGBT, predictably more relevant to the ongoing story-arc… more, they personally don't find Louis particularly entertaining, and ironic(or fitting?) considering the last game, they prioritize shipping over just enjoying the damn story. What bit there is at the moment.
I will grant you that it at least felt like we had fewer interactions with Louis than we did with Vi, mainly because we couldn't interact with him much while walking with AJ in the courtyard to work up to apologizing to Marlon. I know we had a lot of time with him in the piano room, but we had a chance to chat with Vi at the courtyard and in our rooms. It could be merely perception though.
Correction/Elaboration: There weren't that many opportunities to talk with Louis himself about himself and/or his motivations.
One of my predictions that ended up being off was the idea that Louis wouldn't get as much interaction as Violet did(although that's almost certainly gonna change now). And to the game/story's credit, that was actually in service of it's pacing: Louis acts as an entertaining guide that helps get the player acquainted with survival at Ericson's and keeps em entertained in the process so, while Violet slowly but surely gets focus as the more dramatic and storytelling elements become relevant.
With that said, we still arguably know more about Louis himself than we do Violet--there's just not much exposition in practice with him. An almost balanced, but not quite version of an existing trend/issue with Telltale.
I will grant you that it at least felt like we had fewer interactions with Louis than we did with Vi, mainly because we couldn't interact wi… moreth him much while walking with AJ in the courtyard to work up to apologizing to Marlon. I know we had a lot of time with him in the piano room, but we had a chance to chat with Vi at the courtyard and in our rooms. It could be merely perception though.
That wasn't the main point of my post, what I wanted to say was that even if survival is a day-to-day task it doesn't mean that you should stop "for fun" when you're on duty like hunting.
Dude. People are people. Walkers are walkers. Just because they were people at some point it doesn't mean that you can't have fun with them.… more It's a rotten corspe with one part of the brain that still "lives". They did so much bad things to the world that having fun with them is at least something that can be considered good.
That wasn't the main point of my post, what I wanted to say was that even if survival is a day-to-day task it doesn't mean that you should stop "for fun" when you're on duty like hunting.
I agree because the only times we interact with him is during hunting and the defense at the school. If you want your character to be with Louis of course It depends on your choosing
I will grant you that it at least felt like we had fewer interactions with Louis than we did with Vi, mainly because we couldn't interact wi… moreth him much while walking with AJ in the courtyard to work up to apologizing to Marlon. I know we had a lot of time with him in the piano room, but we had a chance to chat with Vi at the courtyard and in our rooms. It could be merely perception though.
I agree because the only times we interact with him is during hunting and the defense at the school. If you want your character to be with Louis of course It depends on your choosing
I liked Violet more because her interactions with Clementine were just so wholesome & sweet. I didn't get the same feeling when interacting with Louis, it just felt awkward as hell. Like when he asked Clem if she ever had a boyfriend... please god no. So awkward.
I liked Violet more because her interactions with Clementine were just so wholesome & sweet. I didn't get the same feeling when interact… moreing with Louis, it just felt awkward as hell. Like when he asked Clem if she ever had a boyfriend... please god no. So awkward.
They're both really not that interesting yet, mostly because episode 1 was really mostly about introducing and getting to know them rather than having them do anything noteworthy at all (and that's fine). Violet however is just slightly more interesting to me since she has history with the twins and feels therefore way more involved in the plot.
Louis on the other hand has really just been a discount comic relief character that is main cast for some unknown reason. Now, I already don't particularly like comic relief characters since they always seem to become an untouchable writer's pet (this seems to be the case with Louis too, just going by how the devs talk about him), but Louis's character seems to take it a step further by being literally just that - funny... times a hundred... thousand. The constant monologue and grandstanding, the snarky one liners, his tone, a fucking (named!) chair leg (???)... it's just a little too much? Like the game is trying too hard to make me laugh and enjoy being with this character (when in reality I feel like I'm interacting with a literal clown) rather than making me understand him, see things from his perspective or making me care about his struggles... but Louis just seems to have none of those.
And while I haven't watched the scene where Clem goes play with him myself, I've seen people (and Marlon himself) mention that Louis would rather go play with zombie piñatas (???) rather than hunt with Aasim... this while they are having a serious food issue back at the school... yeah I don't think I need to explain why that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth!
On the topic of Violet complaining about the loss of a loved one at all times, it's really not as ridiculously overboard and unnecessary as you try to make it seem. Both times she does touch on the topic is because Clem approaches her about it (on the cemetery while she and Tenn are mourning, and at the river during fishing because Brody asks Clem to talk about the incident with Violet) or because she sees Clem and AJ sleeping in her long lost lover's room... using her stuff. And all this exposition still feels way more necessary to understand the overall plot than... anything Louis says really?
Again neither character is that amazing yet, but at least Violet seems to have a point to exist by now?
Violet's a realist. She doesn't fool around unlike louis. Her voice is nice. She's relatable. She's nice to aj and looks after tenn. She saves clem from a walker. Her smile is cute. She's a nostalgic and deep thinking person. She isn't always brooding.
Her reaction to clem complimenting her was adorable. Her reactions to certain dialogue choices are complex. She shows happiness, guilt, sympathy, anger, surprise.
I like that she's shy and can be awkward. I like her lone wolf personality. The way she kills walkers is cool and so is her choice of weapon.
Unlike louis to me she isn't obnoxious. She's not comedic relief like louis is. Her advances if there were any weren't and aren't cringe like louis was and is.
Louise running to catch up to clem was just eye rolling. Just like how his singing and flirting is eye rolling and also his lame attempts at trying to be funny. And fishing imo was more enjoyable and fun and more productive.
Plus you get to talk to brody, learn more about violet, and mend brody and violet's friendship.
Which is more better, peaceful, and more productive than playing whack a zombie.
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1 - Can you show your research? The data that you gathered and the method used that lead to that ratio? I guess not
3 - You said it, it wasn't me, "I'm starting to believe that people only ship..." Third paragraph.
4 - The game literally shows he not doing something when asked, i'm not saying he is useless, but he is immature.
5 - Yes we can't count, thats why you can't say that Violet fans tend to be more agressive then Louis fans, its just a lie or baseless assertion.
Describe said development, if you please.
"Oh c'mon. He was playing with that walker for 2-3 minutes."
You cannot deny the fact that this was a very dumb thing to do. I'm one of those that prefer Louis more and I admit that this was very dumb of him, I agree with him saying that survival is more of "day-to-day" task, after all you gotta enjoy your life, otherwise what's the point of living? But that was NOT what I meant, I got frustrated with the walker pinata, you can say to AJ that walkers were once people and he beats them for fun in front of AJ while he is on duty.
Dude. People are people. Walkers are walkers. Just because they were people at some point it doesn't mean that you can't have fun with them. It's a rotten corspe with one part of the brain that still "lives". They did so much bad things to the world that having fun with them is at least something that can be considered good.
Stare down when walking with Marlon, interaction at the gate, interactions inside the forest with Lou, card game scene, conversation with Clem at her room, the whole fishing scene and appeal to Vi choice at the end. All those scenes gave her character some development. And we're 100% sure to get more in future episodes.
Don't know if this was what you were after but yw anyways.
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i never knew you have mind reading power allow you to know the real attentions of others.
Fucking what?
He meant intentions.
She has a soothing voice like Jane, so that is a tick in my book. ?
Definitely, but I wouldn't say like Jane.
Different, yes.
I will say that I'm currently having Clem with Louis, however I can see the appeal of Vi.
Louis is very entertaining just nobody interacts with him.
AJ, Violet, Omar, and Assim did.
I will grant you that it at least felt like we had fewer interactions with Louis than we did with Vi, mainly because we couldn't interact with him much while walking with AJ in the courtyard to work up to apologizing to Marlon. I know we had a lot of time with him in the piano room, but we had a chance to chat with Vi at the courtyard and in our rooms. It could be merely perception though.
She's a realist.
Correction/Elaboration: There weren't that many opportunities to talk with Louis himself about himself and/or his motivations.
One of my predictions that ended up being off was the idea that Louis wouldn't get as much interaction as Violet did(although that's almost certainly gonna change now). And to the game/story's credit, that was actually in service of it's pacing: Louis acts as an entertaining guide that helps get the player acquainted with survival at Ericson's and keeps em entertained in the process so, while Violet slowly but surely gets focus as the more dramatic and storytelling elements become relevant.
With that said, we still arguably know more about Louis himself than we do Violet--there's just not much exposition in practice with him. An almost balanced, but not quite version of an existing trend/issue with Telltale.
That wasn't the main point of my post, what I wanted to say was that even if survival is a day-to-day task it doesn't mean that you should stop "for fun" when you're on duty like hunting.
As he(DabigRG) said.
It took him 2 minutes. Like for real. It's not like he spent whole day on having fun.
Well, in these "2 minutes" Clementine can get some rabbits with Aasim.
I agree because the only times we interact with him is during hunting and the defense at the school. If you want your character to be with Louis of course It depends on your choosing
We also interact in the card game and we reunite with AJ.
I mean Louis asked about clem love life so he kinda has the courage, violet didn't, but that's my statement.
Eh during the gameplay you'll get alot of food from the train station.
I liked Violet more because her interactions with Clementine were just so wholesome & sweet. I didn't get the same feeling when interacting with Louis, it just felt awkward as hell. Like when he asked Clem if she ever had a boyfriend... please god no. So awkward.
I mean It's not that awkward he just wanted to know.
They're both really not that interesting yet, mostly because episode 1 was really mostly about introducing and getting to know them rather than having them do anything noteworthy at all (and that's fine). Violet however is just slightly more interesting to me since she has history with the twins and feels therefore way more involved in the plot.
Louis on the other hand has really just been a discount comic relief character that is main cast for some unknown reason. Now, I already don't particularly like comic relief characters since they always seem to become an untouchable writer's pet (this seems to be the case with Louis too, just going by how the devs talk about him), but Louis's character seems to take it a step further by being literally just that - funny... times a hundred... thousand. The constant monologue and grandstanding, the snarky one liners, his tone, a fucking (named!) chair leg (???)... it's just a little too much? Like the game is trying too hard to make me laugh and enjoy being with this character (when in reality I feel like I'm interacting with a literal clown) rather than making me understand him, see things from his perspective or making me care about his struggles... but Louis just seems to have none of those.
And while I haven't watched the scene where Clem goes play with him myself, I've seen people (and Marlon himself) mention that Louis would rather go play with zombie piñatas (???) rather than hunt with Aasim... this while they are having a serious food issue back at the school... yeah I don't think I need to explain why that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth!
On the topic of Violet complaining about the loss of a loved one at all times, it's really not as ridiculously overboard and unnecessary as you try to make it seem. Both times she does touch on the topic is because Clem approaches her about it (on the cemetery while she and Tenn are mourning, and at the river during fishing because Brody asks Clem to talk about the incident with Violet) or because she sees Clem and AJ sleeping in her long lost lover's room... using her stuff. And all this exposition still feels way more necessary to understand the overall plot than... anything Louis says really?
Again neither character is that amazing yet, but at least Violet seems to have a point to exist by now?
It was to me. His other remarks towards Clementine really didn't help either.
Bc she’s LGBT lol
That didn't matter at the moment though, they can't see the future.
Tbh esp 1 is introduction they were introducing themselves.
Because everyone wants Clementine to be gay now
neither relevant nor true
They like violet because gay.
If that's their reasoning, then so be it, don't invalidate that opinion. I'm just glad I can romance Louis at all
He is too. But he's not depressed about it all the time like Violet.
Violet's a realist. She doesn't fool around unlike louis. Her voice is nice. She's relatable. She's nice to aj and looks after tenn. She saves clem from a walker. Her smile is cute. She's a nostalgic and deep thinking person. She isn't always brooding.
Her reaction to clem complimenting her was adorable. Her reactions to certain dialogue choices are complex. She shows happiness, guilt, sympathy, anger, surprise.
I like that she's shy and can be awkward. I like her lone wolf personality. The way she kills walkers is cool and so is her choice of weapon.
Unlike louis to me she isn't obnoxious. She's not comedic relief like louis is. Her advances if there were any weren't and aren't cringe like louis was and is.
Louise running to catch up to clem was just eye rolling. Just like how his singing and flirting is eye rolling and also his lame attempts at trying to be funny. And fishing imo was more enjoyable and fun and more productive.
Plus you get to talk to brody, learn more about violet, and mend brody and violet's friendship.
Which is more better, peaceful, and more productive than playing whack a zombie.
Saying it's because she's lgbt is not true for everyone. People actually like and love violet for things that are important.