So, anyone else surprised that TTG got beaten to the punch here?

I don't know if any of you guys have played Blue Toad Mystery Files, but it is a funny, episodic puzzle based game with cartoonish characters that even look like they are from the TTEngine. Playing it, I am surprised it isn't by them, since it seems so much to me like the type of puzzle game TTG would make if they made one (much more so than Puzzle Agent.)
I liked Puzzle Agent quite a lot, but I think that anyone who likes TTG and also puzzle games needs to play Blue Toad, though it is PS3 exclusive.

Is anyone else surprised that TTG didn't do it first?
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  • edited July 2010
    I'll never see that game as long as it's PS3 exclusive as I refuse to buy a PS3. Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.
  • edited July 2010
    jweir wrote: »
    Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.

    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

    But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point. :p
  • edited July 2010
    jweir wrote: »
    I'll never see that game as long as it's PS3 exclusive as I refuse to buy a PS3. Sony has their hands right in their customer's wallets and doesn't let go. The console is more than other consoles, the games are more than other games, and considering the economy, I'm surprised they can stay in business. Alas, I'm digressing, no I haven't and probably never will play this game.
    Try saying that to Microsoft. They charge an insane amount for their online functionality, force you to buy ridiculously expensive specialised HDD drives and their point system causes you to spend more than you intended to, especially with the pricing of a lot of products (there's a ton of games that cost 1200 points, meaning you have to buy 1000 points, then 500 points seperately, costing more. There's almost nothing going for a simple 1000 or 500). Then you have the insane cost of Kinect, which they're marketting as a near essential item, despite its apparent uselessness, nonfunctionality and lack of decent games to go with it (also overpriced).

    Furthermore, to cancel a subscription to XBOX Live, when you realise how pointless and expensive the service actually is (I get more use out of my free PSN account anyway), you have to use a telephone service (there's an option on the website to cancel, but it's greyed out in Europe), which is extremely poor quality (near impossible to hear what's being said on the other line), puts you on hold for 20 minutes or more (way more for me) and asks you questions with no prior indication of this knowledge being required (such as the secret question for your original Microsoft Live account, or the card number used to pay), causing you to have to start all over if you don't have this information ready, all to put you off from cancelling your subscription, keeping their pockets lined.

    On top of that, the PS3 is only slightly more expensive itself (and is FAR better value for money), and that's only recently, and depends on the model opted for.

    ...So yeah, if you think Sony's ripping off it's customers, that's nothing compared to Microsoft.

    EDIT: Blast! Ninja'd on almost every point! :D
  • edited July 2010
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

    But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point. :p
    Don't forget the Blu-ray player!
  • edited July 2010
    Oh hell yeah, where would I be without my essentially free Blu Ray player? Absolutely amazing.
  • edited July 2010
    Wow guys. This thread went from 0-hellish XB vs PS3 debate. I love all of my systems equally, for different reasons, but I will say that Xbox doesn't offer nearly the value in XBL that it used to, and I am much happy with the offerings from PS+ than I am with them. The point system is retarded and you have to buy more crap all the time in order to get the most out of it.
    Anyone who says otherwise is simply trying to justify their own investment in another system by unfairly chastising the other systems for pseudo-problems (The PS3 is too expensive! The Wii is too childish! The Xbox has nothing you can't find better on other systems!)
    I bought all of mine for exactly 300 bucks, and used them all more at one point than the others.

    This is so not on topic any more it is ridiculous.
  • edited July 2010
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.

    I'd also like to point out that the batteries in the PS3 controllers are, in fact, user serviceable. There are step-by-step instructions in the manual on disassembling the controller and replacing the battery.


    More relevant: Even though I own a PS3, I, like jweir, will probably not see BTMF because I'm not quite all for digital distribution. I don't like not having physical assets, or the ability to resell the games. It almost sounds interesting.
  • edited July 2010
    xbskid wrote: »
    I'd also like to point out that the batteries in the PS3 controllers are, in fact, user serviceable. There are step-by-step instructions in the manual on disassembling the controller and replacing the battery.


    More relevant: Even though I own a PS3, I, like jweir, will probably not see BTMF because I'm not quite all for digital distribution. I don't like not having physical assets, or the ability to resell the games. It almost sounds interesting.

    On PSN you can share the code with up to 6 PS3s, so...technically speaking you can sell it 5 times and never lose the game. Borderline illegal though, the EULA seems to say not to do that.
  • edited July 2010
    alexonfyre wrote: »
    On PSN you can share the code with up to 6 PS3s, so...technically speaking you can sell it 5 times and never lose the game. Borderline illegal though, the EULA seems to say not to do that.

    ..Share what code? On PSN, there are no serial numbers or anything to speak of. I know what you're saying; I can have my purchased assets active on up to five (Not six, unless they changed that recently) different PS3s, which means I have to give my account credentials to someone else, unless I'm physically present to sign in and initiate the download(s). After that point, it's akin to Steam's Offline Mode (Minus the must-log-in-to-refresh-the-account-after-a-month business) where the other people don't need to sign in as me to play; they just need a local account with my PSN account associated with it on their PS3s. And yes, that's against the license agreement. But if I don't want it anymore, I can't generate a "gift code" to give to someone to transfer the game. I'd have to sell my account (Which is also against the license agreement).
  • edited July 2010
    I would say Professor Layton beat both of them to the punch.

    Also you can swap your PS3 HDD out for any laptop HDD. Instead of paying $120 for 60 GB I paid $65 for a 7200 RPM 320 GB HDD for my PS3. I'll answer the question that always follows. Yes I need that much. I'm nearing 120 to 110 GB of space left right now.
  • edited July 2010
    lol, consoles.
  • edited July 2010
    Pcox wrote: »
    lol, consoles.

    Pcox wins the thread!!
  • edited July 2010
    Pcox wrote: »
    lol, consoles.
    lol consoles indeed. I've grown to despise my consoles more and more as of late, and I'm really not sure if the "next gen" will be able to produce anything that can sway me otherwise. The only thing that coudl get me back into console gaming at this point would be, for example, Ubisoft-style DRM on everything on the PC platform. Even then, though, I'm very much into independent gaming on the PC platform, and that segment very rarely does anything draconian DRM-wise...partially because they can't afford to. =P
  • edited July 2010
    Oh my god, I was letting this game run for a while, and there is a running gag of it telling you in various fashions to press "x" to continue. Well, one of the gags was "Look! A three-headed monkey! Oh, you missed it, now press x to continue"

    No doubt about it, these guys are playing these games and are probably among us right now!
  • edited July 2010
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

    But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point. :p

    Okay the Sony people win for you. This thread is about Puzzle Agent. Your point is?
  • edited July 2010
    Fochivoma wrote: »
    Okay the Sony people win for you. This thread is about Puzzle Agent. Your point is?

    Actually this thread is only marginally related to Puzzle Agent, and is primarily about Blue Toad Murder Files, which at the end of my post I said looked interesting and that I may try it out. Furthermore, I was replying to a post within the thread wherein an individual was attempting to sling mud at Sony for seemingly no reason with pretty much unfounded claims, so I felt the need to reply to these claims.

    Also, it's pretty hypocritical to call someone out for being "off-topic" while posting something that is even further off-topic.

    On-topic: I looked on the PSN store and was saddened by the fact that there isn't a demo, nor the ability to buy anything but episode 1, or the first 3 in a bundle, or all 6 in a bundle. I wish they at least had the "buy 1 episode, then upgrade to full series later" option.
  • edited July 2010
    I looked on the PSN store and was saddened by the fact that there isn't a demo, nor the ability to buy anything but episode 1, or the first 3 in a bundle, or all 6 in a bundle. I wish they at least had the "buy 1 episode, then upgrade to full series later" option.

    Unfortunately, Sony is not Telltale; they are a giant corporation and they do not care enough to take suggestions. They just want your money. Of course, Telltale wants our money, too, it's just that they seem to deserve mine more than Sony. :)
  • edited July 2010
    xbskid wrote: »
    Unfortunately, Sony is not Telltale; they are a giant corporation and they do not care enough to take suggestions. They just want your money. Of course, Telltale wants our money, too, it's just that they seem to deserve mine more than Sony. :)

    Relentless Software made BTMF, not Sony.
  • edited July 2010
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

    But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point. :p

    BTW, Half of these points are inaccurate now.
  • edited July 2010
    Relentless Software made BTMF, not Sony.

    It doesn't matter who made what; I'd still have to give my money to Sony to play BTMF.
  • edited July 2010
    just reading through, thread derailed by the second post! whooh!
  • edited July 2010
    Actually this thread is only marginally related to Puzzle Agent, and is primarily about Blue Toad Murder Files, which at the end of my post I said looked interesting and that I may try it out. Furthermore, I was replying to a post within the thread wherein an individual was attempting to sling mud at Sony for seemingly no reason with pretty much unfounded claims, so I felt the need to reply to these claims.

    They just got done selling Blue toad for 1.29

    Also if you buy the first episode it unlocks the ability to full upgrade.
    BTW, Half of these points are inaccurate now.


    How so? Other then the new midget having built in wifi all of those seem spot on. Controllers still need AA's. There's still random points. There's still a required fee of $50 annually to take your Xbox online. Arcade still has no HDD and PS3 allows you to still use laptop HDD's at will.
  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    They just got done selling Blue toad for 1.29

    Also if you buy the first episode it unlocks the ability to full upgrade

    Really? That's cool then, I might buy the first episode later tonight. :D
  • edited July 2010
    yeah I picked it up when it was a 1.29 then saw there's an upgrade for the full season after I purchased it.
  • edited July 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »


    How so? Other then the new midget having built in wifi all of those seem spot on. Controllers still need AA's. There's still random points. There's still a required fee of $50 annually to take your Xbox online. Arcade still has no HDD and PS3 allows you to still use laptop HDD's at will.

    Wrong!
    Random Points have now been set to intervals similar to that of the cards (400, 800, 1600, 4000)

    Arcade is no longer being made and has been replaced by a 4GB HDD.
  • edited July 2010
    Wrong!
    Random Points have now been set to intervals similar to that of the cards (400, 800, 1600, 4000)

    And things still sell for 60, 160, 560, etc. making it easily possible to have wasted points.
  • edited July 2010
    And things still sell for 60, 160, 560, etc. making it easily possible to have wasted points.

    This makes no sense. If someone were smart like me, they'd buy exactly what they need and know what to spend the rest on. My only regret is a 30 Point gamerpic which keeps me at 50 points which can't afford anything.
  • edited July 2010
    This makes no sense. If someone were smart like me, they'd buy exactly what they need and know what to spend the rest on. My only regret is a 30 Point gamerpic which keeps me at 50 points which can't afford anything.

    That's stupid though. You shouldn't be REQUIRED to spend money in blocks of $5 and only $5. It's horrible, and you know it.
  • edited July 2010
    So as you see point still stands.
  • edited August 2010
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?

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  • edited August 2010
    Pcox wrote: »
    lol, consoles.

    this guy wins the internet.










    And an xbox 360
  • edited August 2010
    just to let you know i have the first 3 chapters of BTMF and its really not worth the $15 i spent on it. The puzzles are way to easy, half way through the chapter it dosnt take a astrophysist to guess who did it and still you cant just guess at that point you have to go through the rest of the chapter just to get on with it. also the humor was quite dry besides the anouncer at the end of the puzzles occationaly saying good for you, you dont suck at this.
    On the flip side Puzzle agent was fantastic most of the puzzles where a challenge the gnomes are freaky and the story was twisty in a good way. well worth it and BTMF cant hold a flame or even an unlit match to puzzle agent.
    the only thing that BTMF does have is a competive multiplayer but thats just forceing multipul people to go through the same puzzles with the same answers again just with some one else beside them. so pretty much a usless multiplayer option.
  • edited August 2010
    BTMF really wasn't that good. I got around to playing it finally. Not really enjoying it. I'd be upset if I didn't pay $1.29 for it.
  • edited August 2010
    BTW, Half of these points are inaccurate now.
    I count one, being the wireless dongle for the 360. Internet is still free on the PS3, at the same standard it's always been, but you can pay for an extra special service. Standard class is still there, but they added a few 1st class seats. But it doesn't really matter. It's the game that counts right?

    Anyway, i keep meaning to try out the BTMMF. I'm currently trying to coax my mum into buying them, claiming it's "just like Prof. Layton!"
  • edited August 2010
    Friar wrote: »
    I count one, being the wireless dongle for the 360. Internet is still free on the PS3, at the same standard it's always been, but you can pay for an extra special service. Standard class is still there, but they added a few 1st class seats. But it doesn't really matter. It's the game that counts right?

    Anyway, i keep meaning to try out the BTMMF. I'm currently trying to coax my mum into buying them, claiming it's "just like Prof. Layton!"

    Game's voiced by one guy, if that bugs you. Puzzles are alright. I bought it for $1.29 and I'm not so happy about it.
  • edited August 2010
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.
    I don't use internet.
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.
    I don't play online. Or, in some hypotethical universe where I want to play online, I'd do so using my personal computer.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.
    I don't buy any "points", since I don't use internet.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.
    I have endless AA batteries.
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.
    I have the XBox360 Arcade, and it does have a hard drive. Granted, a very small one, only 120 MB, and once the Xbox360 goes ka-boom, I'll lose all my data, but it's a hard drive nevertheless.
    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.
    But, since the PS3 cost more than the Xbox360, I tend to prefer the Xbox360 instead.
    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    $250 for console+$50 extra controller=$300 alltogether. Granted, I don't remember how long I had my xbox360.

    Now, I'm not saying the Xbox360 is better than the PS3. That's insane. However, the Xbox360 does fit my gameplay needs, and thus is more suitable to me.
    How are Sony the ones that have their hand on your wallet?
    Television. Enough said.
    But on topic: The game does look somewhat interesting, and I may try it at some point. :p
    I hope you have a very wonderful experience. I'm trying to take a look at the trailer, but meh. I've been disillusioned with episoidic content after seeing SBCGFAP and its long release dates, so I'll prefer Telltale's Pilot Game. Then again, we're dealing with a different company, who might have more stable release times...

    EDIT: Though...prehaps in retrospect, I would have likely bought the PS3 instead of the Xbox360, just for the free Blu-Ray, but the die was cast. Sorry, SHODAN.
  • edited August 2010
    The arcade didn't have a HDD (last I remember) it came with flash memory, and such a small ammount it couldn't run many major selling Xbox(360) games.
  • edited August 2010
    *sigh*
    To preface I don't have a console preference, I own all of them and, like any real gamer, only love my PC! :P

    j/k, I like em' all, but my 360, PSP and PC have gotten the most use the past couple of years. Anyway...
    Xbox 360 requires you to buy an $80 dongle to get wifi access, PS3 has it built in.

    Valid point, but the 360 I have came with 50' of ethernet cable, more than enough considering the vast majority of people will have a landline near their TV since most Americans get their net through the cable; right next to the TV... the thing you play the vidja games on. :/
    Xbox 360 requires you to pay $50 annually to play online, PS3 has free online play.

    First of all, yes there's a monthly fee, but that's because XBL has relatively good servers. I've never seen it down and experience practically nonexistent lag (I got lag one time playing SSFIV I think. Either that or the person rage-quit, I don't know which.)

    Also it's important to point out that the Gold account allows you to use Facebook, Netflix and other crap I really don't care about. You can still get online, but no co-op. Which sounds like crap until you realize the next point.

    Microsoft hands out months of gold like freaking candy. Seriously, when I first opened my Xbox I got half a year of gold time, then another 3 months when I got Halo, more when I bought GTAIV, and another 3 months once when I had my Xbox serviced (cost me nothing and turnaround was a week and a half.) Oh, and I got another month free when I got Rockband, sometimes they give out months for free based on specials and Gold is usually cheaper around the dead periods when there aren't games that hand out months of playtime for free. I've spent a total of $30 (3 months) of gold account time, and I've owned my 360 since 08. :/

    So yeah, every once in a while you'll pay $10 to have good servers with good admins that aren't laggy. And while PSN is alright it's nowhere near as stable as XBL.
    Xbox 360 forces you to buy random amounts of "points" in odd amounts so that if you buy anything that doesn't cost exact increments of 400 points, you end up having points sit around unspent forever, PS3 uses exact currency amounts, added as you need it.

    This has changed. It used to be that you'd have 20 to 60 points left over per song for Rockband if you paid online... Unless you just went to the store and bought the 120pt card. Oh yeah, and you can buy XBL points everywhere. Seriously, they're in Walgreens and gas stations all over where I live.
    Xbox 360 wireless controllers require you to buy a battery pack and charger/charge cable or endless AA batteries to use them, PS3 controllers come with built in rechargeable batteries that can be charged with any USB mini cable.

    I don't know what you're talking about, but my 360 came with a wireless controller with the USB wire to charge it. When I went to the store to buy another one it came with a AA pack. I was upset for all of a day before I went to the store and bought a wireless charge pack for 8 bucks. The same cost as 8 AA batteries.

    Whoop-dee-doo
    Xbox 360 arcade had absolutely no hard drive, requiring you to either buy an overpriced and microscopic memory card, or an overpriced hard drive in order to even save or patch a game, and only very recently allowed flash drive support, every PS3 SKU has come with a hard drive, all PS3s have had flash drive support and several have also come with memory card slots in addition to their hard drives.

    I could always use a flash drive with my 360 so this is another WTH...? I don't like how it creates a partition on my flash drive to store data but, whatever. Oh, and yeah the Arcade's the cheapo $150 console. The next up (with HD space) is $250. What's the cheapest PS3 model I can get now... Oh, it's $300. Well darn :/
    Xbox 360 and PS3 games cost exactly the same price on launch, so I don't really know what to make of that comment, unless you're referring to Wii games, which are inherently cheaper to make than 360 and PS3 games due to the lower quality graphics on the Wii meaning less production time in most cases.

    This is truth.
    In 4 years of owning a 360, it cost me over $700, in roughly the same amount of time, my PS3 has only cost me $300 for more features.

    Honestly, I think you maybe didn't realize all the options available for both systems. The only mitigating factor is the price for Gold but, honestly I feel like I'm paying for a quality service (when I actually do pay) unlike PSN which lags or crashes all the time on me. And PS Home is crap.

    Now, I DO like how the PSN has a lot of classic PSX games, and how it integrates with my PSP, and that its library is actually starting to get good since it's been mostly crap the past couple of years. Really, it all comes down to taste.

    Unless you have a good PC in which case, as we all know, PCs are the superior gaming console (seriously, this is a forum for people who play adventure games that were until SB PC exclusive! Why are we even having this discussion?!) :o
  • edited August 2010
    I have had a 360 since launch, almost 5 years ago, and all of those points were or still are valid. Just because your 360 happened to come with some things doesn't mean they all did.

    Also, I have experienced hardcore lag on Xbox Live numerous times before, whereas I've had almost no lag whatsoever on PSN, so I really don't see how Xbox Live is "superior".
  • edited August 2010
    I have had a 360 since launch, almost 5 years ago, and all of those points were or still are valid. Just because your 360 happened to come with some things doesn't mean they all did.

    Also, I have experienced hardcore lag on Xbox Live numerous times before, whereas I've had almost no lag whatsoever on PSN, so I really don't see how Xbox Live is "superior".

    Hehe. For some reason i want to post random pictures hating both PS3 and 360 (i favor 360 btw.Superior marketplace!But PS3 IS free)

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