Considering that the title of this thread has "spoiler" in it twice, are all the spoiler tags really necessary?
No, but read at your own risk.
First off, how did Sam A turning into a giant electrokinetic monster go unnoticed by Sam and Max Prime?
This season's been in New York the whole time, so the other guys' adventures could've been happening anywhere else.
Second, how did Sam and Max A escape from and survive the destruction of the Mariachi ship? Didn't T.H.E.M themselves escape on the time machine, back to earlier points in season two? How did Max A end up with it?
In 204, if you go back into the bridge during the final puzzle, you'll see a scene where past Sam & Max run into the elevator before you get a chance to escape on it. I think it was an optional scene, though.
The mariachis who warn you not to activate the self-destruct are from the past. They jumped forward in time to deliver the warning, then went back to their birthday missions.
This now means that from this point forward, we have a Max with no memory of anything that happened in the Telltale series other than Culture Shock. Of course, given how Max's memory normally functions, it may be a lateral move.
There's Max's short-term memory, plus the fact that he functions like a hive mind on the quantum level. Every instance of Max is aware of what's going on with every other instance at all times. That's part of why the spores all acted like Max. And all the weird stuff that only Max could see throughout the season; could they have been images from the other Max's adventures? Maybe.
I don't understand why people are sad, since Momma Bosco warned you in episode 1 exactly what would happen if you kept using those psychic powers.
Also all the other characters in the OP could be revived without much trouble. Feel free to keep using them in your fan fiction and nightmares.
There's Max's short-term memory, plus the fact that he functions like a hive mind on the quantum level. Every instance of Max is aware of what's going on with every other instance at all times. That's part of why the spores all acted like Max. And all the weird stuff that only Max could see throughout the season; could they have been images from the other Max's adventures? Maybe.
So all the Maxes are pretty much the same?
That's nice to know, I've spiraled out of that depression. That's too bad for the alternate Sam, though, but he was kind of a jerk.
Wow, thanks alot for clearing this up Chuck! That was extremely trippy but it makes sense now. The only thing that makes me sad is that Max won't have any memories of the things that transpired in Season 3, and one of the things I was looking forward to in a possible Season 4 was referring to the events with the psychic powers.
Also, we saw several times during this season that Max saved the day and I think he's developped alot as a character if you compare him to how he was in Season 1.
In the end he committed a selfless act and sacrificed himself to save the city.
This alternate Max will seem like a completely different character.
heard the 'ding' when Sam was staring out to sea, I know the Elevator was coming...
As for it being
a different Max...remember the 305 Max had freakin' psychic powers, and there were several mentions (albeit as jokes) of him merging with the collective unconciousness. Mabye the Narrator did save Max's brain, and our Max is still out there, just waiting for a way to merge with his alternate body.
There's Max's short-term memory, plus the fact that he functions like a hive mind on the quantum level. Every instance of Max is aware of what's going on with every other instance at all times.
The only thing that makes me sad is that Max won't have any memories of the things that transpired in Season 3,
Well I do believe that what Chuck meant to say was precisely that all the memories of all the Maxes are common and when Sam will told him what happened, he'd remember (if he does not already remember.) BUT... the strange thing is that it should work with Sam too, shouldn't it? When Max told him HE was the giant beast, he seemed not to understand nor remember. Why?
Of course Sam understood that the alternate Sam and Max had a completely different adventure and Max had to kill him because he mutated somehow, also of course he wouldn't remember their adventures, it happened to his duplicate not him. Max 2 and Sam 2 aren't from an alternate dimension but the same one, simply not taking the same path because of the intervention of sam and max from 204.
If they do make a season 4 (but then again, why wouldn't they?), I really hope that papierwaite stays a regular character.
I think Papierwaite and Skunkape both had incredible development through the season and it seems as though Papierwaite will be a permenant character after this.
Everything ends... Even if I'm a huge fan of S&M and that I'd make every single existing voodoo spell to make the Season 4 a reality, I thought that the 305 end was a good way to "finish" the story.
Moreover, there are two radical different ends, so it seems quite hard to make a new Season with that...
There are toys from the dark dimension that can give lagomorphs psychic powers?
And also, I think it might have stopped Sal from struggling against the poisoning. He just didn't want to live much anymore...
I cried. That is, by far, first game that made me cry. Not just have some teardrops fallen, but emotional crying. Dear Telltale, I hate and love you at the same time. Even when I saw new Max, I still was sad. Happy and sad. Even if they make the scene with Real Max's brain falling from space to Sam's hands, we will then have a scene with hard Sam's choice - first or second Max. Thanks for this season, and for some sleepless nights I will soon feel.
I think there's someone missing from your list of now deceased characters.
What about the Sam of episode 102 and everything before that? If the Max that just arrived in the elevator had to kill the Sam he was with to save the world, that means our beloved canine from all those years ago is dead.
That is unless I have it completely wrong (which is likely).
He came in via the time traveling elevator. It's the Max from episode 102, who stole the time machine from "present" Sam & Max in episode 204. He and Sam from 102 have been having their own adventures during the last 6 episodes.
Well, those are two different timelines, kinda with the same root? I mean, it's the same timeline UNTIL you time travel and thus split them, since the doubling of Sam and Max in one relative space/place didn't already happen from the perspective of the episode 102 (meaning we weren't following a closed time loop), therefore the time travel that happened back in episode 204 created a new timeline that Max which picked Sam up came from!
Unlike that, there is a closed time loop inside the second season, when Sam and Max from 201 save their future selves from the same timeline they're going to experience in the future, with the lava pit and all. (In both 201 and 205 we can see they're aware of that event from both the past and the future (well, at least Sam is )).
Still, now that Sam and 'alternate' Max met up, there's going to be an altered difference in age between them, since the 'original' Sam and Max had to relive events all the way from 102 to 205. But who cares!
The Max at the end could be the Max from the animated TV show episode where Sam and Max go back in time and change things and then Max travels through time trying to get Sam back to normal.
That was the best/most depressing Sam and Max I've ever played....
I just finished it and I feel really upset about losing Max! Although it was great plot-wise, I was a little surpirsed with how rushed the end felt; I was expecting at least one more puzzle.
Balso, most emotional credits in a Sam and Max game ever?
I actually thought that the ending of The Devil's Playhouse was an interesting parallel to the ending of Tales. In Tales, there was a huge finale, and we were left all alone, with one final puzzle to complete to rejoin with everyone. In 305, there was a huge finale, and we were left without our partner, with one final puzzle to complete to rejoin with our partner.
I thought that was pretty cool on its own, but I also liked how it went in totally opposite directions after that. In Tales, the solution was the item that'd been in our inventory the whole time, and it worked perfectly. In 305, the solution was an item we never saw Sam pick up, and it failed miserably.
There better be a Season 4 at some point. Well or atleast a new Sam & max game. I think it would be interesting now sam & max now kinda have alot of stuff Telltale can pull on.
In the first, they take the space-and-time-travelling-elevator, in the second, they stay in the city. So I assume that in the first, they will be looking for adventures through space and time and in the other one, they would still be freelance poilce!
In the first, they take the space-and-time-travelling-elevator, in the second, they stay in the city. So I assume that in the first, they will be looking for adventures through space and time and in the other one, they would still be freelance poilce!
The ingame choice, yeah, but it's not like the can't do one and then the other. Or just simply do both and only make a small reference to it in season 4.
Well, when came the moment to chose between the two options, they seemed... incompatible.
it doesn't really matter. for some Sam and Max will have a time travel adventure between season 3 and season 4 and for other some banker/rat king crimefighting. in the end it doesnt have to have any impact on season 4
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This season's been in New York the whole time, so the other guys' adventures could've been happening anywhere else.
In 204, if you go back into the bridge during the final puzzle, you'll see a scene where past Sam & Max run into the elevator before you get a chance to escape on it. I think it was an optional scene, though.
The mariachis who warn you not to activate the self-destruct are from the past. They jumped forward in time to deliver the warning, then went back to their birthday missions.
There's Max's short-term memory, plus the fact that he functions like a hive mind on the quantum level. Every instance of Max is aware of what's going on with every other instance at all times. That's part of why the spores all acted like Max. And all the weird stuff that only Max could see throughout the season; could they have been images from the other Max's adventures? Maybe.
I don't understand why people are sad, since Momma Bosco warned you in episode 1 exactly what would happen if you kept using those psychic powers.
Also all the other characters in the OP could be revived without much trouble. Feel free to keep using them in your fan fiction and nightmares.
That's nice to know, I've spiraled out of that depression. That's too bad for the alternate Sam, though, but he was kind of a jerk.
Wow, no wonder Max nuked him.
This made me snicker.
It was also mentioned by Girl Stinky that
Maybe. Either that or
On a related note,
Sam will bring the new (old) Max up to speed on the things he missed, and we'll never know the difference.
You'll know the difference in your heart. Max is dead.
Well...no, not exactly that's still Max. Who know's maybe in Season 4, there'll be an episode called A tale of Two Max's.
Also, we saw several times during this season that Max saved the day and I think he's developped alot as a character if you compare him to how he was in Season 1.
In the end he committed a selfless act and sacrificed himself to save the city.
This alternate Max will seem like a completely different character.
As for it being
Well I do believe that what Chuck meant to say was precisely that all the memories of all the Maxes are common and when Sam will told him what happened, he'd remember (if he does not already remember.) BUT... the strange thing is that it should work with Sam too, shouldn't it? When Max told him HE was the giant beast, he seemed not to understand nor remember. Why?
I mean...
I think Papierwaite and Skunkape both had incredible development through the season and it seems as though Papierwaite will be a permenant character after this.
Everything ends... Even if I'm a huge fan of S&M and that I'd make every single existing voodoo spell to make the Season 4 a reality, I thought that the 305 end was a good way to "finish" the story.
I second this notion.
There are toys from the dark dimension that can give lagomorphs psychic powers?
And also, I think it might have stopped Sal from struggling against the poisoning. He just didn't want to live much anymore...
That is unless I have it completely wrong (which is likely).
Well, those are two different timelines, kinda with the same root? I mean, it's the same timeline UNTIL you time travel and thus split them, since the doubling of Sam and Max in one relative space/place didn't already happen from the perspective of the episode 102 (meaning we weren't following a closed time loop), therefore the time travel that happened back in episode 204 created a new timeline that Max which picked Sam up came from!
Unlike that, there is a closed time loop inside the second season, when Sam and Max from 201 save their future selves from the same timeline they're going to experience in the future, with the lava pit and all. (In both 201 and 205 we can see they're aware of that event from both the past and the future (well, at least Sam is
Still, now that Sam and 'alternate' Max met up, there's going to be an altered difference in age between them, since the 'original' Sam and Max had to relive events all the way from 102 to 205. But who cares!
What happened differently in them?
I just finished it and I feel really upset about losing Max! Although it was great plot-wise, I was a little surpirsed with how rushed the end felt; I was expecting at least one more puzzle.
Balso, most emotional credits in a Sam and Max game ever?
I thought that was pretty cool on its own, but I also liked how it went in totally opposite directions after that. In Tales, the solution was the item that'd been in our inventory the whole time, and it worked perfectly. In 305, the solution was an item we never saw Sam pick up, and it failed miserably.
Why can't they do both?!
Exactly! Thanks for translating my words into something actually understandable!
it doesn't really matter. for some Sam and Max will have a time travel adventure between season 3 and season 4 and for other some banker/rat king crimefighting. in the end it doesnt have to have any impact on season 4