'Knots Untie' Episode Discussion

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  • It's a short film that was made to advertise a video game. The short's better than the game though :p

    They're also making a movie based on the short film if I'm right.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Doesn't that have a video game as well?

  • edited February 2016

    It definatly has to be either the next episode or the one after that, the trailer for the next episode is them already going in to negans building.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I think its the finale. There's still a few scenes we have to get to.........

  • Just re-watched. Yep i was right he says Negans men, he himself has never been seen.

    Hence why Daryl calls him a boggie man.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Pretty sure Jesus says that Negan killed Rory, and that they needed to learn off the bat

  • I believe Negan is not showing up until the finale.

    It definatly has to be either the next episode or the one after that, the trailer for the next episode is them already going in to negans building.

  • Nah, needs more drop kicks

    That is incredibly accurate.

  • edited February 2016

    I am 100% that isn't Negans building. First off why would they trust this guy they let go, the Saviors are shown as extremely compentent. They would'nt just assumed thigs went well. More likely is the fact that this is a secured building FAR from the base and even likelier that they will find it abandoned or as a trap.

    I have a theory but it might spoil you since its based on the comics (which the show does almost word for word in the past eps)

    It definatly has to be either the next episode or the one after that, the trailer for the next episode is them already going in to negans building.

  • edited February 2016

    Say it I'm fine with being spoiled, I probably know it already because of the comic

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I am 100% that isn't Negans building. First off why would they trust this guy they let go, the Saviors are shown as extremely compentent. T

  • Yes, that one guy that expresses his opinion. Wow, what a guy.

    There's always that one guy. It was a well-paced episode considering it was mostly dialogue based.

  • I just rewatched the episode, and this scene again. I always watch with subtitles. He said, "He killed one of us. Rory. They beat him to death right in front of us." To me, it sounds like Negan commanded it and his men performed it, but that he was definitely there.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Just re-watched. Yep i was right he says Negans men, he himself has never been seen. Hence why Daryl calls him a boggie man.

  • edited February 2016

    In the comics the Saviors follow Ricks group to Alexandria and prepare to attack.

    Dwight (the guy who stole Daryl's crossbow in the show, but lets just say he 'changed') leads the team and a major character of the group is killed and another kidnapped. A battle ensues and the outcome is suprising.

    My theory is that the guy will lead them to the place they held him but they'll find it empty. Dwight and the others will actually be spying ready to attack but he'll see Daryl and decide to follow them, rembering they have a community. From there we could have either the next or this episode end with a character death and the other have the battle in focus. Its a theory so i might be wrong but i sadly have to say that i have solid evidence for Negan showing up.

    Negans actor (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) was cast near the end of last year when they were finishing episodes 14-16. If that isn't enought the ONLY episode casting that has been confirmed for him (by the studio or other sources) is in the last ep. This means that he either shows up in episodes 15 or 16 or we hear his voice before that, which would be lame. Sadly Negan will not appear till the end of the season according to every source involved.

    Edit: Also that place they showed in the trailer is definatly not the Saviors base. Trust me the base looks more....unique.

    Say it I'm fine with being spoiled, I probably know it already because of the comic

  • edited February 2016

    I sadly did not have subtitles in the vídeo as an option. But it says THEY, if they saw him before why did Daryl call him boogieman (ok i guess he might mean he's just using fear since hes not that big a threat, but still.)

    KCohere posted: »

    I just rewatched the episode, and this scene again. I always watch with subtitles. He said, "He killed one of us. Rory. They beat him to dea

  • I think thats exactly what he meant, like saying the emperor has no clothes. Theyre all scare tactics but no real threat.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I sadly did not have subtitles in the vídeo as an option. But it says THEY, if they saw him before why did Daryl call him boogieman (ok i guess he might mean he's just using fear since hes not that big a threat, but still.)

  • Ok then like i said that makes sense (and is certainly in character with Daryl). Ill check again but i think you're right. Thanks for looking the help in clearing it up :).

    KCohere posted: »

    I think thats exactly what he meant, like saying the emperor has no clothes. Theyre all scare tactics but no real threat.

  • I just love how much the TV show has been doing scenes shot for shot from the comics recently. I found Rick turning around, covered in blood, nonchalantly asking "What?" both hilarious and awesome at the same time.

    And a little part of me thought that Gregory's counterpart maybe could be good guy...for like 5 seconds. Once he asked them to shower I knew he was still dick-Gregory.

  • That's almost definitely due to the fact that the show's on prime time television I'm sure. Plus I wouldn't have liked to see any post or pre-rape scenes. :D

    But hopefully they'll keep Negan just the same. Luckily he's not a sick pervert or anything. Just loves gore and is really crass!

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    No I was just asking which bit. I think S3 was a major let down and so was the Governor who was very tame compared to the comics.

  • Honestly, Maggie in this Episode made me realize how great a Leader she is, I have a feeling Abraham may not be around for much longer and I also think they've really sped up the TV Show quite a bit, they're closer to Negan then I would've first thought to be honest! 3 pretty solid episodes so far in my opinion, I sense this Season might be one of the best ones, I've honestly enjoyed this Season from start to finish <3

  • I agree. I've enjoyed them more than the first 8 episodes of Season 6A

    prink34320 posted: »

    Honestly, Maggie in this Episode made me realize how great a Leader she is, I have a feeling Abraham may not be around for much longer and I

  • No problem, I was already watching it.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Ok then like i said that makes sense (and is certainly in character with Daryl). Ill check again but i think you're right. Thanks for looking the help in clearing it up .

  • I thought that the actor they got to play the Governor was a poor choice too.

    That's almost definitely due to the fact that the show's on prime time television I'm sure. Plus I wouldn't have liked to see any post or pr

  • lol

    bigdogg0821 posted: »

    Yes, that one guy that expresses his opinion. Wow, what a guy.

  • No comment?

    Say it I'm fine with being spoiled, I probably know it already because of the comic

  • edited March 2016

    its episode 16 when negan is going to be showing up I looked it up which is lame, if that's not the saviors base then whoes is it? and everything seems alright and I still think glenn is going to get the bat, not daryl, or they are going to loose a lot of viewers.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    No comment?

  • I think its just a outpost. If you look at the tráiler it looks empty as hell.

    its episode 16 when negan is going to be showing up I looked it up which is lame, if that's not the saviors base then whoes is it? and every

  • It's either gonna be Daryl, Glenn, or Morgan. I can't see it being anyone other than those three.

    One thing we can be sure of, Negan/Saviours is gunna kill someone from the group. Who that will be is up for speculation

  • Really enjoyed the episode but the group is WAY too overconfident, I honestly don't know whether Glenn or Daryl with bite the bullet, Daryl for being too overconfident, or Glenn simply because he seems to survive EVERY single death situation, and he needs a clear, definite death.

    (Comic Readers) Did anyone notice Eugene is on patrol with Abraham now...

  • I did, and I know what that means.

  • That's why I got chills.

    I did, and I know what that means.

  • Oh, I was kind of confused why you asked me that earlier, now I get it.

    That's why I got chills.

  • i dont think it will happen...

  • edited March 2016

    Its where they seem to be heding. Abe already decide he'll take Holly, i mean Sasha and leave Rosita. I would'nt be surprised if he ...... went on a walk soon.

    jamex1223 posted: »

    i dont think it will happen...

  • Abe does seems to be following in his comic's footsteps. Which is a shame as Abe is one of my favourites. But we all know that while the TV follows the story well, it doesn't always follow the characters...

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Its where they seem to be heding. Abe already decide he'll take Holly, i mean Sasha and leave Rosita. I would'nt be surprised if he ...... went on a walk soon.

  • Well he seems to be one of the exceptions. Holly replacement Sasha seems to be The 'character exange' here. But he seems to be going like he use to. In fact Eugene replacing Sasha implies that soon (probably the ep after this one when the 'hunt' is diminished and tensions ease) he will go on his trip. Next ep should focus on his break up and new relationship as well as Rosita leaning on Eugene as a side plot. And the one after that should either develop things more or just go for it.

    Eitherway his storyline seems intact and i would be surprised if it didn't go all the way.

    Abe does seems to be following in his comic's footsteps. Which is a shame as Abe is one of my favourites. But we all know that while the TV follows the story well, it doesn't always follow the characters...

  • no i just dont think it will happen because just like ricks hand, he said it was kinda a mistake.

    i cant really exactly tell you where to find it because i dont remember where is saw it, but dont think Abe's walk gonna happend soon..

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Its where they seem to be heding. Abe already decide he'll take Holly, i mean Sasha and leave Rosita. I would'nt be surprised if he ...... went on a walk soon.

  • edited March 2016

    He was supposedly more a greater actor than a great look a-like to his comic counterpart and it seems to be what they almost always go after with their casting. Which I agree he is a decent actor but felt they could had found someone that was a good actor and looked closer to comic governor. Same with Jesus and Rick both good actors but not really aligned in appearance to the comic. Michonne and The D.C. trio Abraham, Eugene and Rosita looked the closest of everyone else on the show I thought when I first saw them introduced. Oh and Gregory just recently...

    ShaneWalsh posted: »

    I thought that the actor they got to play the Governor was a poor choice too.

  • Indeed it would.

    It could happen and would be devastating, but is the show willing to risk it is the question. Daryl is a major favorite and I know him being killed off would piss a lot of people off and potentially drive them away

  • edited March 2016

    And let me just say in advance no attacking or offense to you.. or those whom might think the same as you. But one thing I can never fully get with you folks is how you can be perfectly fine with gore and over the top extreme violence on prime tv or film and yet a rape scene or strongly explicit sex scene will eat away under your skin the second it's depicted more than the disturbing horrific violence displayed. Not that rape is right or condoned simply both are tragic and wrong all the same to either rape or violently murder an individual. Kind of sounds Like saying "oh she just got brutally stabbed to death by that Micheal Myers serial killer but... atleast he's wasn't a perveted rapist and didn't rape her".

    Or perhaps you could enlighten my understanding of this notion which would be welcomed and appreciated.

    That's almost definitely due to the fact that the show's on prime time television I'm sure. Plus I wouldn't have liked to see any post or pr

  • edited March 2016

    Its been hinted too much for it not to though. I am convinced because everything just fits perfectly. Just look at the evidence:

    We know Negan won't show until episode 16. So we have 5 episodes to fill. It would be insane not to have...what happened after the walk happen, since its the only thing that was in between. Its either that or 5 fillers which they could have avoided very easily. The only way this could still be avoided is for someone else to take the walk. And they already said in series he's taking it with Eugene soon.

    jamex1223 posted: »

    no i just dont think it will happen because just like ricks hand, he said it was kinda a mistake. i cant really exactly tell you where to find it because i dont remember where is saw it, but dont think Abe's walk gonna happend soon..

  • Here comes good ol' Dwight!

    I did, and I know what that means.

  • You do make a fair point. It's shame. Although there is another 'Holly' I think in Alexandria, I wonder if she's being re-assigned or if she was just a back up in case Sasha was re-written.

    However, there is a chance this could be a red herring, I always thought Abe was never fully developed in the comics, and it would be nice to see him at least get to All Out War where I'd think he'd shine. It's possible someone else could volunteer for it, you never know with this show. I'll just hope that they deviate this one time, keep people on their toes.

    I do have to say though, I can't see a scenario where we'd lose Abraham and Daryl (let's say), the two badasses...

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Well he seems to be one of the exceptions. Holly replacement Sasha seems to be The 'character exange' here. But he seems to be going like

  • edited March 2016

    That Holly died in the Wolves attack. She was the woman Denise couldn't save.

    You do make a fair point. It's shame. Although there is another 'Holly' I think in Alexandria, I wonder if she's being re-assigned or if she

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