-I liked A New Frontier more than Season 2
-I think both Kenny and Jane were cancer made people (apparently you can´t hate one w/o love the other?)
-Duck and Sarah were cool and believable in my book
-Gabe was pretty cool. An annoying twat, yes, but you can see why
-Non-clem chars are great. Give me more non-clem chars to play!
Honestly, I think the best season 2 ending is Clem all alone.
Both Kenny and Jane were turning out to be very flawed characters who would put Clem (the kid they're trying to protect) into dangerous situations and not caring how their plans affected her and others in general. Their final fight is to me a great example of this, Jane made a horrible plan that could've easily backfired and was based in leaving AJ completely alone, but Kenny's first reaction is him losing all rational thought and becoming murderous ( it is understandable but not justified).
That's why I can't chose one or the other, I was actually surprised seeing that most people left with one of them haha.
now you did play season 1, right?
Yes, I did and Katjaa was more than capable of speaking against Kenny when he was in the wrong at … moretimes and he does still [determinately eventually] go along to help save Clementine. And he and Clementine had very little interaction to begin with before Season 2, so it's unlikely that he ever specifically expected her to do things for him beforehand.
didn't he force himself on her?
That was apparently the original plan back when he was a more serious/threatening character, but in the game proper, it's much more likely that she was using him the entire time given their respective IQs and Threat levels.
there's no implications with Kenny, she just doesn't like him and wants Clem for herself.
I know, but it was still worth rubbing my eyes when I noticed that parallel--the "feminist" vs. the abusive redneck, I mean.
Huh. I think I made it clear that I was trying to look at his Episode 2 appearance from the point of view of those who were actually exposed… more to it at the time. Basically, people were quick to side with him for a number of petty reasons.
EDIT: Also, Happy Birthday to Me!
I feel like the huge wave of hate for the Kate that happened after Above the Law had less to do with being mad about her not wanting to be with David again(which is understandable) and more to do with them assuming he was abusing her only to psychologically backlash when he's made out to be this great guy.
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I feel like the huge wave of hate for the Kate that happened after Above the Law had less to do with being mad about her not wanting to be w… moreith David again(which is understandable) and more to do with them assuming he was abusing her only to psychologically backlash when he's made out to be this great guy.
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white against light grey was never a good combination
i mean, i can read it but it really hurts my eyes
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Really tried myself to get to like her or at least understand her but I just feel so detached to her. Sure she helped Clem survive for almost a year but I didn't feel anything that made me thank or appreciate her, its I think because we didn't get to see in full length of her and Clem survive or the care she has to Clem.
Agreed. There are a number of things I was disappointed about, but I agree.
People put Chuck on too high of a pedestal.
Eh...maybe? I don't know, he's actually a pretty good character for what little time he had and if anything, I'd say some people misrepresent his points.
Idk if this really counts as an opinion, but:
I think Telltale wanted fans to choose the Jane ending in S2 because it fits better with Clementine's character in New Frontier.
I didn't hate or love ANF. It was just okay.
Agreed. There are a number of things I was disappointed about, but I agree.
Peopl… moree put Chuck on too high of a pedestal.
Eh...maybe? I don't know, he's actually a pretty good character for what little time he had and if anything, I'd say some people misrepresent his points.
Now that you mention it, they probably could've just had Christa be the one to tell Lee the harsher stuff, with Omid selling it better through the less harsh stuff.
However, Chuck is a memorable enough character that I don't mind having him be a separate character. I just kinda wish they did something else with him.
Idk if this really counts as an opinion, but:
I think Telltale wanted fans to choose the Jane ending in S2 because it fits better with Clementine's character in New Frontier.
I think Telltale wanted fans to choose the Jane ending in S2 because it fits better with Clementine's character in New Frontier.
How… more is Clem kissing Gabe in character? That was never the Clementine I know, kissing a random boy of her age with ZERO development.
I really liked playing as Javier, he is really cool, strong, tough, brave... (all good qualitys in a protagonist, the kinds of qualitys a playable character should have!) you can be a tough guy in your gameplays and people can take you seriously as a threat, thats something you cant do while you play as an eleven year old, nobody cant take a child seriously.
* I loved playing as Javi
* Nick and Uncle Pete are my favorite characters from the cabin group, and are the most wasted characters in the … moregame
* Wellington ending is the best one (not sure if this is unpopular, it ain't popular either)
* Kenny's sacrifice scene is better with Christa than with Ben
* Duck is cool
Nate wasn't a bad guy. Sure. He was crazy as fuck. But what do we know about him. He chased two people who murdered one of his friends. Sure, it could have been an ambush, but wouldn't the guy in the bushes been able to shoot the guy who didn't have a gun out if he was coming out to rob him?
And yes, he did kill and rob some old people. But these old people start firing at him first when he and Russel were just minding their own business. No. Honestly, can anyone say that if Nate and Russel just left that the old man wouldn't have shot them in the back?
He did almost get Russel bit in what was essentially a joke. OK. That's pretty messed up. He was also has a nasty mouth on him and should have covered Russel the first time.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he's a good guy. But he's far from the pure psychopath most people think.
I love Kenny, but I just think staying at Wellington makes more sense. Kenny himself said he didn't trust himself to take care of Clem and AJ anymore, and though I don't think he could do anything to hurt them, I can't deny he was a broken man. Clem finally gets to be in a safe place, with people and resoruces, something she has never gotten before, and Kenny finally got to keep the ones he care about safe, it was his character arc since S1, he couldn't keep Duck, Katjaa and Sarita safe, but with Clem and AJ going into Wellington he did it. Also I think it's the most emotional one, I cried so hard when Kenny gave Clem his hat.
Letting Kenny fulfill his mission by getting the children to safety is a great reason. It was really hard for me to deny him that, especially when he was begging and pleading me to listen to him. Funnily, it was probably the only time i didn't listen to Kenny in the whole game. Basically it was a choice to leave Kenny thinking he was broken man who finally did right, or he gets his second chance at raising a family.
The main reason I didn't like Wellington ending is how it was handled in ANF. It felt like it was overrun so easily and it didn't get an extra flashback in episode 4. Having Kenny's hat is still cool though and will come into play. If You did Wellington and did not take the hat, I cant forgive you haha.
I love Kenny, but I just think staying at Wellington makes more sense. Kenny himself said he didn't trust himself to take care of Clem and A… moreJ anymore, and though I don't think he could do anything to hurt them, I can't deny he was a broken man. Clem finally gets to be in a safe place, with people and resoruces, something she has never gotten before, and Kenny finally got to keep the ones he care about safe, it was his character arc since S1, he couldn't keep Duck, Katjaa and Sarita safe, but with Clem and AJ going into Wellington he did it. Also I think it's the most emotional one, I cried so hard when Kenny gave Clem his hat.
I feel like the huge wave of hate for the Kate that happened after Above the Law had less to do with being mad about her not wanting to be w… moreith David again(which is understandable) and more to do with them assuming he was abusing her only to psychologically backlash when he's made out to be this great guy.
Note:Highlight this if you want to read cause I aint changing it.
Look, I definitely see what they were going for there, but unfortunately Jane ended up being a very unsympathetic, not to mention superficial character. And in the parallel that she's a bad future version of Clementine and it just so happens to line up.
Jane was edgy, so Clementine is edgy. Jane was bitter, so Clementine is bitter. Jane was shilled, so Clementine is shilled(though to an almost acceptable, far lesser degree). And finally, Jane looked like a lesbian but slept around with dudes, so Clementine...well, you get the idea.
Short version: I think so many people turned on Kate because David wasn't a one-note abuser, implying they only liked her for being an [unfortunately informed] badass survivor of abuse.
I don't really like Kenny. At first I kinda hated him. The first Telltale game I played was season 2 when it came out (got it as a gift), so maybe that's one of the biggest reasons.. all I knew about Telltales TWD was that everybody loves Kenny and I remember thinking what the hell is wrong with people, this guy's a dick. And then I really loved Jane, the decision between them wasn't difficult. Of course some time after that I got around to playing season 1 too, so his character made more sense then. But I still can't say I like him.
I don't really like Kenny. At first I kinda hated him. The first Telltale game I played was season 2 when it came out (got it as a gift), so… more maybe that's one of the biggest reasons.. all I knew about Telltales TWD was that everybody loves Kenny and I remember thinking what the hell is wrong with people, this guy's a dick. And then I really loved Jane, the decision between them wasn't difficult. Of course some time after that I got around to playing season 1 too, so his character made more sense then. But I still can't say I like him.
What about Jane? I've been trying to accept how they wrote her out of the story. Best I can come up with is maybe she had mental health problems like her sister, and the pregnancy was enough to push her over the edge. People in their right mind don't kill themselves. Something that would justify it, because otherwise it's just bad writing
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That would've been a cool easter egg.
-I liked A New Frontier more than Season 2
-I think both Kenny and Jane were cancer made people (apparently you can´t hate one w/o love the other?)
-Duck and Sarah were cool and believable in my book
-Gabe was pretty cool. An annoying twat, yes, but you can see why
-Non-clem chars are great. Give me more non-clem chars to play!
Exactly!
Honestly, I think the best season 2 ending is Clem all alone.
Both Kenny and Jane were turning out to be very flawed characters who would put Clem (the kid they're trying to protect) into dangerous situations and not caring how their plans affected her and others in general. Their final fight is to me a great example of this, Jane made a horrible plan that could've easily backfired and was based in leaving AJ completely alone, but Kenny's first reaction is him losing all rational thought and becoming murderous ( it is understandable but not justified).
That's why I can't chose one or the other, I was actually surprised seeing that most people left with one of them haha.
I get that, I wonder if the Luke and Jane scene was a last minute addition just to counter that idea.
Well, happy birthday Dabig.
I hope it went better than Luke's?
Doug is really underrated and deserves more love.
Clementine is a potential red ring to your ANF save file.
I feel like the huge wave of hate for the Kate that happened after Above the Law had less to do with being mad about her not wanting to be with David again(which is understandable) and more to do with them assuming he was abusing her only to psychologically backlash when he's made out to be this great guy.
Note:Highlight this if you want to read cause I aint changing it.
THIS.
white against light grey was never a good combination
i mean, i can read it but it really hurts my eyes
sorry if you don't have control over the text color (or if it's some weird bug that is only visible on my end)
Why, you can't see it
Good.
While you can definitely argue it paid off for some, I feel like Telltale overcompensated with David.
I don't really care for Christa.
Really tried myself to get to like her or at least understand her but I just feel so detached to her. Sure she helped Clem survive for almost a year but I didn't feel anything that made me thank or appreciate her, its I think because we didn't get to see in full length of her and Clem survive or the care she has to Clem.
Idk if this really counts as an opinion, but:
I think Telltale wanted fans to choose the Jane ending in S2 because it fits better with Clementine's character in New Frontier.
Agreed. There are a number of things I was disappointed about, but I agree.
Eh...maybe?
I don't know, he's actually a pretty good character for what little time he had and if anything, I'd say some people misrepresent his points.
Probably so. Then again, Jane is sort of a bad future version of Clementine to begin with, so maybe it was just unfortunate destiny.
I think what made me think that was the line Clementine used if you decided to kick the family out:
Randy: W-what if we're dangerous?
Clementine: (pulls out gun) What if I am? Now leave!
That right there got me believing it was true. I also mark it as a huge turning point in her character.
I mean, Chuck wasn't bad, but he and his advice are definitely overrated.
Yeah. Chuck really just told Lee common sense. It just took Chuck to get it through Lee's head. Christa comes along to confirm Chuck's advice.
Now that you mention it, they probably could've just had Christa be the one to tell Lee the harsher stuff, with Omid selling it better through the less harsh stuff.
However, Chuck is a memorable enough character that I don't mind having him be a separate character. I just kinda wish they did something else with him.
Totally agree
How is Clem kissing Gabe in character? That was never the Clementine I know, kissing a random boy of her age with ZERO development.
He means her behavior and actions make more sense if she went with Jane.
I really liked playing as Javier, he is really cool, strong, tough, brave... (all good qualitys in a protagonist, the kinds of qualitys a playable character should have!) you can be a tough guy in your gameplays and people can take you seriously as a threat, thats something you cant do while you play as an eleven year old, nobody cant take a child seriously.
Kenny was a great guy and my favorite character
Not an unpopular opinion but i agree
I agree with all of your points except the one about Wellington being the best. Why is that better than getting more scenes with Kenny?
I assume this is unpopular:
Nate wasn't a bad guy. Sure. He was crazy as fuck. But what do we know about him. He chased two people who murdered one of his friends. Sure, it could have been an ambush, but wouldn't the guy in the bushes been able to shoot the guy who didn't have a gun out if he was coming out to rob him?
And yes, he did kill and rob some old people. But these old people start firing at him first when he and Russel were just minding their own business. No. Honestly, can anyone say that if Nate and Russel just left that the old man wouldn't have shot them in the back?
He did almost get Russel bit in what was essentially a joke. OK. That's pretty messed up. He was also has a nasty mouth on him and should have covered Russel the first time.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he's a good guy. But he's far from the pure psychopath most people think.
I love Kenny, but I just think staying at Wellington makes more sense. Kenny himself said he didn't trust himself to take care of Clem and AJ anymore, and though I don't think he could do anything to hurt them, I can't deny he was a broken man. Clem finally gets to be in a safe place, with people and resoruces, something she has never gotten before, and Kenny finally got to keep the ones he care about safe, it was his character arc since S1, he couldn't keep Duck, Katjaa and Sarita safe, but with Clem and AJ going into Wellington he did it. Also I think it's the most emotional one, I cried so hard when Kenny gave Clem his hat.
Letting Kenny fulfill his mission by getting the children to safety is a great reason. It was really hard for me to deny him that, especially when he was begging and pleading me to listen to him. Funnily, it was probably the only time i didn't listen to Kenny in the whole game. Basically it was a choice to leave Kenny thinking he was broken man who finally did right, or he gets his second chance at raising a family.
The main reason I didn't like Wellington ending is how it was handled in ANF. It felt like it was overrun so easily and it didn't get an extra flashback in episode 4. Having Kenny's hat is still cool though and will come into play. If You did Wellington and did not take the hat, I cant forgive you haha.
Clementine going with someone who killed a friend of hers is out of character. Not to you maybe but to me, yes.
I read it, but I'm having a hard time comprehending it.
...You didn't read my username, did you?
Look, I definitely see what they were going for there, but unfortunately Jane ended up being a very unsympathetic, not to mention superficial character. And in the parallel that she's a bad future version of Clementine and it just so happens to line up.
Jane was edgy, so Clementine is edgy. Jane was bitter, so Clementine is bitter. Jane was shilled, so Clementine is shilled(though to an almost acceptable, far lesser degree). And finally, Jane looked like a lesbian but slept around with dudes, so Clementine...well, you get the idea.
Short version: I think so many people turned on Kate because David wasn't a one-note abuser, implying they only liked her for being an [unfortunately informed] badass survivor of abuse.
I don't really like Kenny. At first I kinda hated him. The first Telltale game I played was season 2 when it came out (got it as a gift), so maybe that's one of the biggest reasons.. all I knew about Telltales TWD was that everybody loves Kenny and I remember thinking what the hell is wrong with people, this guy's a dick. And then I really loved Jane, the decision between them wasn't difficult. Of course some time after that I got around to playing season 1 too, so his character made more sense then. But I still can't say I like him.
Yeah, a fair number of the Kensplainers justification unfortunately comes down to "He was in Season 1."
Now Jane, on the other hand....
What about Jane? I've been trying to accept how they wrote her out of the story. Best I can come up with is maybe she had mental health problems like her sister, and the pregnancy was enough to push her over the edge. People in their right mind don't kill themselves. Something that would justify it, because otherwise it's just bad writing