He can still order others to do his dirty work. But I had the same rationale you did.
The beauty of this choice, though, is that I still doubt it. The man is unsavable, and he will kill others as callously as he did the ferrypeople. And my Michonne will have to live with that for now, having kept him alive, although tightening the vise every chance she got.
I didn't kill him for a few reasons.
One, I kept Pete with me. Even though that means I don't need Randall as a bargaining chip to get Pe… morete back, Pete had already guilted me this episode for not listening to him so I didn't want to go against him again.
Second, Randall could still be used as a bargaining chip. I wanted Norma to stop following us, and Randall is the only incentive she has left to do that. I know she can easily go back on her word once she has Randall back, but it's better than nothing.
Third, I hate giving antagonists satisfaction. It's a large reason why I didn't agree to marry Morgryn in Game of Thrones. The way Randall was going on made me believe he wanted Michonne to kill him and see her turn into a monster. While she wouldn't really be a monster if she killed Randall (it's totally justified for killing John) I still didn't want to give in to his little speech, so I didn't. And I'm not really that worried about him escaping. His hands are pretty messed up, I'm not sure what more he could do.
I understand your rationale, and agree with it to some extent, but killing Randall still retains one's humanity. The man is unsavable, and has proven himself a callous, amoral killer, who will kill again, if only by ordering others to do it for him (those hands don't look savable, either).
I didn't kill him. I wanted to make sure that we were still better than him; that we still have some humanity left. Resorting to his level wouldn't have resolved anything.
I kept Pete, but, oddly enough, I kept Randall alive in some hope of keeping the kids alive.
I actually love this choice, since I've been 3rd- and 4th-guessing it ever since, but this is the first time I realize the real reason why I let him live -- attempted redemption for Michonne in the loss of her daughters. She's going to take even the slimmest chance to keep John's kids alive.
Norma and Randall are responsible for the ferry massacre. They killed those people. "Ill make what happened on the ferry look like a fucki… moreng picnic" - Norma.
The only real reason to keep Randall alive is if you left Pete with Monroe. Then you need him for a trade but otherwise that guy needed to be put down.
Killed his ass. No point in keeping him alive atleast in my story ( I let randall talk to norma but I cut him off after he said Im fine to her). Besides if you keep him alive they are still going to kill you, atleast Randall said he would,
Stooping to someone's level is indeed bullshit imo. I mean in the twd world there are no morals anymore... Besides sometimes you gotta go hard against hard. And it would also been hypocritical of Michonne to say that, since she also did alot of "bad things" already...
Killed him.
I don't care about "taking the moral high ground" or "stooping to someone's level". That doesn't mean anything. I know for a … morefact that Michonne has a higher moral ground than Randall and she is higher than Randall, whether she kills him or not. I don't trust Norma at this rate, so I just want them all to die. If Norma didn't want to be in this mess, she should have never messed with that ferry or just be a hostile leader in the first place.
I have this distinct feeling that letting Randall live or not will not matter once the final episode arrives, as I honestly don't think that a peaceful approach is going to happen either way.
If Randall is spared, then either he frees himself and kills more people and cause more brutality, or someone from Sam's group, or Sam herself will kill him instead. And if Randall dies, then Norma will most definitely want to kill everyone out of vengeance given how she cares for her unstable brother. I did mention that Norma seems somewhat reasonable thus far, but I wouldn't be surprised if Norma goes back on her word as soon as Randall is back on her side.
I understand your rationale, and agree with it to some extent, but killing Randall still retains one's humanity. The man is unsavable, and … morehas proven himself a callous, amoral killer, who will kill again, if only by ordering others to do it for him (those hands don't look savable, either).
I played Episode 1.. and WE HAVE THE OPTION TO KILL RANDALL!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS… moreSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I WILL KILL HIM AND GUT HIM LIKE A PIG.
Suddenly, I'm getting game of thrones flashbacks.
Still downloading episode 2 with my internet speed of about 60KB/s, 4 hours and it will be done. But I'll make sure to kill him because it appeals to me.
They still might not have been responsible for that. Norma said Randall went there to kill off the people that killed the kids in the first episode. When she said she'd make what happened on the ferry look like a picnic, she could have just meant that. I know this is kinda a long-shot, but she seems to think highly of honesty and I hope that they have made that a character trait instead of just a boring lie.
Haha, I think you're bang on the mark with your predictions! It's annoying because it would be so much more interesting if there was an alternative way, even if in the end it still results in a lot of people dying. I kept Randall alive though, he's far too amusing to kill him deliberately imo.
Last time I showed any mercy to a character that I was planning to use as a bargaining chip instead of bashing his face in, he escaped and g… moreot me killed. Sure he does that even if I hit the crap out of him, but still.
Here are my predictions:
If you kill Randall, Norma is going to kill everybody in the house.
If you do not kill Randall, Sam will, and then Norma is going to kill everybody in the house.
Yeah, it was 2much4me. And holy shit, I don't know why, but every time I see his destroyed skull, it always gives me the creeps, if you know what I mean.
My skull must have made a similar crack as Randal did when someone accidentally shoved me into a metal support beam when I was nine. It definitely made me feel queasy when Michonne chose to kill him.
Easy kill.... I mean apart from the fact that I just wanted to kill him he also had a point. Sparing Rendall would'nt help because he said himself that he would kill you anyway.
You don't know how much time I spent on this choice with a paused screen. On one hand, I wanted to Neganize him with a wrench, on the other hand, I wanted a free bargaining chip that would prevent the bloodbath from happening.
I didn't want to kill him because, even after all, he was the only famliy Norma had (she is an asshole too after this episode) but when Randall said something about kill James and Alex (in a sadistic way), i wanted to kill him. And I finally convinced myself when he talked about Michonne's daughters.
There's no point of spare him. Norma is going to fight us, dead or not dead. But for no reason, i felt bad when i killed him...
I probably wouldn't have, but as soon as he started talking about the kids, he pretty much sealed his fate for me. And then when he started talking shit about Michonne's kids? Yeah, he punched his own ticket ten times over by that point.
That being said though, he's still one my favorite characters to come out of this series. He's one nasty son of a bitch, but fuck me if he isn't interesting and entertaining. But that isn't protecting him from getting his head smashed in.
Hit him, tightened the device, then bashed his skull.
Regardless of this choice, Norma is coming, at least I only have to deal with her now. I didn't like her in Episode 1, disliked Randal even more. I had no reason to keep him alive, because I stopped Pete from surrendering to Norma.
I killed him. I don't like killing he like he says, but he was saying truth when he was saying that basically if I leave him to be alive, he's more of a problem than Norma.
I killed him and I totally regret it, not just because now I can't bargain with norma but also because it made me feel like a terrible perso… moren. That wasn't self defence, that was murder and I sunk down to his level.
I also feel terrible for Norma. She never directly acted against us and we burnt her community. If you tell her about Randall killing John she will say that she disapproves which makes the situation even worse.
Anger takes away people's rationality. I was still shocked by John's death and when Randall told Sam and James about their dad and laughed... I decided that he was dead. I regretted it later because of Norma and moral stuff. After that we were no longer innocent.
Anger takes away people's rationality. I was still shocked by John's death and when Randall told Sam and James about their dad and laughed..… more. I decided that he was dead. I regretted it later because of Norma and moral stuff. After that we were no longer innocent.
Oh but it's just my morals it has nothing to do with Morgan. I actually disagreed with his actions through the whole season. Not killing the tyrants that are murdering innocents? Seriously?
I prefer Carol's simbolism. Killing isn't good, no one wants to do it, but sometimes it is necessary. Killing Randall was not the case tho. It wasn't necessary which makes me feel shitty.
Oh but it's just my morals it has nothing to do with Morgan. I actually disagreed with his actions through the whole season. Not killing the… more tyrants that are murdering innocents? Seriously?
I prefer Carol's simbolism. Killing isn't good, no one wants to do it, but sometimes it is necessary. Killing Randall was not the case tho. It wasn't necessary which makes me feel shitty.
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He can still order others to do his dirty work. But I had the same rationale you did.
The beauty of this choice, though, is that I still doubt it. The man is unsavable, and he will kill others as callously as he did the ferrypeople. And my Michonne will have to live with that for now, having kept him alive, although tightening the vise every chance she got.
I understand your rationale, and agree with it to some extent, but killing Randall still retains one's humanity. The man is unsavable, and has proven himself a callous, amoral killer, who will kill again, if only by ordering others to do it for him (those hands don't look savable, either).
I kept Pete, but, oddly enough, I kept Randall alive in some hope of keeping the kids alive.
I actually love this choice, since I've been 3rd- and 4th-guessing it ever since, but this is the first time I realize the real reason why I let him live -- attempted redemption for Michonne in the loss of her daughters. She's going to take even the slimmest chance to keep John's kids alive.
I wish we could more details on them
I played Episode 1.. and WE HAVE THE OPTION TO KILL RANDALL!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I WILL KILL HIM AND GUT HIM LIKE A PIG.
Suddenly, I'm getting game of thrones flashbacks.
Killed his ass. No point in keeping him alive atleast in my story ( I let randall talk to norma but I cut him off after he said Im fine to her). Besides if you keep him alive they are still going to kill you, atleast Randall said he would,
Stooping to someone's level is indeed bullshit imo. I mean in the twd world there are no morals anymore... Besides sometimes you gotta go hard against hard. And it would also been hypocritical of Michonne to say that, since she also did alot of "bad things" already...
I have this distinct feeling that letting Randall live or not will not matter once the final episode arrives, as I honestly don't think that a peaceful approach is going to happen either way.
If Randall is spared, then either he frees himself and kills more people and cause more brutality, or someone from Sam's group, or Sam herself will kill him instead. And if Randall dies, then Norma will most definitely want to kill everyone out of vengeance given how she cares for her unstable brother. I did mention that Norma seems somewhat reasonable thus far, but I wouldn't be surprised if Norma goes back on her word as soon as Randall is back on her side.
Yeah I can completely understand. I guess I'm just a sucker for saving people, or trying at least haha
Hehe I think you'll enjoy Randall a lot in episode 2....
Still downloading episode 2 with my internet speed of about 60KB/s, 4 hours and it will be done. But I'll make sure to kill him because it appeals to me.
They still might not have been responsible for that. Norma said Randall went there to kill off the people that killed the kids in the first episode. When she said she'd make what happened on the ferry look like a picnic, she could have just meant that. I know this is kinda a long-shot, but she seems to think highly of honesty and I hope that they have made that a character trait instead of just a boring lie.
Haha, I think you're bang on the mark with your predictions! It's annoying because it would be so much more interesting if there was an alternative way, even if in the end it still results in a lot of people dying. I kept Randall alive though, he's far too amusing to kill him deliberately imo.
I think he hit a button and I tightened up the device on his hands...he is now badly fûcked up but I spared him, I Believe in Norma's deal tho.
After deciding not to kill him, I looked up on youtube what happens if you kill him.
MY GOD. His fucking skull got caved in! Although I would have liked him to suffer more that was on hell of a whack!
Killed him.
But I kind of regretted it afterwards because DID YOU SEE HIS SKULL!?
Yeah, it was 2much4me. And holy shit, I don't know why, but every time I see his destroyed skull, it always gives me the creeps, if you know what I mean.
My skull must have made a similar crack as Randal did when someone accidentally shoved me into a metal support beam when I was nine. It definitely made me feel queasy when Michonne chose to kill him.
Choices matter.... Not.
Noice.
Easy kill.... I mean apart from the fact that I just wanted to kill him he also had a point. Sparing Rendall would'nt help because he said himself that he would kill you anyway.
I didn't kill him because I think Randall is hot. Of course, that's just me... I'm known to have a thing for psychotic men...
You don't know how much time I spent on this choice with a paused screen. On one hand, I wanted to Neganize him with a wrench, on the other hand, I wanted a free bargaining chip that would prevent the bloodbath from happening.
In the end, I chose the bargaining chip option.
I didn't want to kill him because, even after all, he was the only famliy Norma had (she is an asshole too after this episode) but when Randall said something about kill James and Alex (in a sadistic way), i wanted to kill him. And I finally convinced myself when he talked about Michonne's daughters.
There's no point of spare him. Norma is going to fight us, dead or not dead. But for no reason, i felt bad when i killed him...
Killed him
it's against my personal morals, but for the sake of it being a game and that it's one less enemy to deal with, he kicked the bucket.
Bashed his head in.
I probably wouldn't have, but as soon as he started talking about the kids, he pretty much sealed his fate for me. And then when he started talking shit about Michonne's kids? Yeah, he punched his own ticket ten times over by that point.
That being said though, he's still one my favorite characters to come out of this series. He's one nasty son of a bitch, but fuck me if he isn't interesting and entertaining. But that isn't protecting him from getting his head smashed in.
I left him alive
He's too entertaining to kill...
...yet
Norma is coming....
Hit him, tightened the device, then bashed his skull.
Regardless of this choice, Norma is coming, at least I only have to deal with her now. I didn't like her in Episode 1, disliked Randal even more. I had no reason to keep him alive, because I stopped Pete from surrendering to Norma.
Like winter?
I killed him. I don't like killing he like he says, but he was saying truth when he was saying that basically if I leave him to be alive, he's more of a problem than Norma.
I know this is late, but if you feel bad about it, then why did you do it?
Anger takes away people's rationality. I was still shocked by John's death and when Randall told Sam and James about their dad and laughed... I decided that he was dead. I regretted it later because of Norma and moral stuff. After that we were no longer innocent.
No offense, but I think you've been watching too much Walking Dead.
... and why do you think that?
I think, just after season 6, that everyone is turning into Morgan. I don't hate Morgan, that's just my conclusion. I think we could all use a break.
Oh but it's just my morals it has nothing to do with Morgan. I actually disagreed with his actions through the whole season. Not killing the tyrants that are murdering innocents? Seriously?
I prefer Carol's simbolism. Killing isn't good, no one wants to do it, but sometimes it is necessary. Killing Randall was not the case tho. It wasn't necessary which makes me feel shitty.
Oh okay. I get your POV.
I killed him because i was angry and i think if i let him live is dangerous.