Im guessing that Season 7 will start with Enie meanie again, but this time no cut so you can see who he's pointing at.
Or they will pull … moreeveryone's favorite, "Now I know you want to know who died, but let's take a gander at what Carol and Morgan are up to!"
I was hoping that whoever got bashed was bashed, and then Negan gave his parting lines and walked away, with the group kneeling beside the dead character while the camera pans out from a bird's eye view.
How it would play out in my mind was very specific.
I was hoping that whoever got bashed was bashed, and then Negan gave his parting lines and walked away, with the group kneeling beside the d… moreead character while the camera pans out from a bird's eye view.
How it would play out in my mind was very specific.
Same here, I don't wanna see anyone die, I've come to like these characters and killing any of them can easily change the direction of the story. Plus I think ending it like they did invokes more of an important topic to talk about, if they just showed us who died, we wouldn't really be left with much to talk about but just another character to mourn in my opinion but I can't say the suspense wasn't allot xd I think the rampage will simmer down soon and go into theory making of who'll die, from the evidence I've since it could be Glenn but AMC could just be messing with us again :x
I also thought it was a great episode. Im not really that mad about the cliffhanger because I wasnt in any hurry to see one of the character… mores I loved getting beaten to death, but I wish they had wrapped it up just to give closure to fans who are on a rampage right now.
I know i'm late to the party but there is a ~24 hour delay for the UK and i only watched it last night, also sorry if it's a bit long as i got carried away :P
Not including the cliffhanger (which i will get to in a moment) i enjoyed this episode, there where some intense moments throughout the episode whenever Rick and the others came across the savours roadblocks.
There where also some tense moments with Carol but i personally wasn't worried that she might die as i don't see her death ending that way, Morgan shooting the guy was good and hopefully he is past the "we don't kill" policy as it was slightly annoying and seeing the Kingdom guards find them got me pretty excited as that is another interesting part of the comic which i am looking forward to.
Now onto Negan's entrance.
The moment just before he came out of the RV was one of my most anticipated moments for the Walking Dead and along with the creepy whistling just before made the whole scene even more intense, I thought it was great to see (nearly the entire) Negan entrance scene from the comics playout almost word for word and i thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan did a fantastic job at playing Negan but personally (and like many others) i felt the cliff hanger ruined the flow of the scene.
Up to that point i personally thought was one of the most intense and well played out scenes that the Walking Dead has filmed but leaving it on a cliff hanger was extremely annoying, not counting the fact once the show returns in October most people won't have the same level of fear and anticipation that they had leading up to this final but AMC will most likely have filler before the Lucelle scene, unless the whole Negan entrance happens again in the first episode i think most people will likely not feel as anticipated about who dies as they will have months to think about it and the victim will most likely leak before it broadcasts.
I was hoping that this was one of the last scenes.
They could've changed the scene slightly to have Negan walking away laughing or just saying "ta ta" as they slowly zoomed onto Rick's face while he looks terrified and angry or show a close up of the victims smashed up face and then cut to credits, that way we would've had the whole shocking death scene for people who don't read the comics along with the satisfaction for people who do read the comics.
tbh, I understand that people don't like TSDF because assholes that follow the group will not keep it in the group and will leak it to the rest of the internet. I get this, and it's valid criticism.
But this case is different. We should know who it was that Negan killed at the end. This time, it isn't about story details that will ruin the enjoyment. It's about something that we should know already, and that was purposefully kept from us to create a cheap cliffhanger.
Usually, I'm also not really with TSDF, but I can't wait for them to leak who died because I just want to see this blow in AMC's face so bad and have them lose all the people that would have just tuned in to see who Negan killed (e.g. half of the fanbase right now)
Someone won't be turning up for filming, if spoiling dead notices that then it'll ruin it for everyone.
The eeny minee mo scene was fanta… morestic, I was on the edge of my seat. Imagine the sense of dread when the camera finally settled on whoever it was.
The body scene isn't too bad, way better than the current, it would convey the shock the best, but I didn't mind the black screen ending after the beating, but frankly lots of tension and suspense was built up and by the time October comes lots of that will have thawed. I think this cliffhanger will do the show a lot worse than better.
This show used to kill characters off when they felt like it, now they do it for viewership and money, it's not a good thing
Eh, it will be one to two months. I think people will cater to TSDF now, and they'll probably know who it is on the very first day of filming by process of elimination.
No, I think that's the ASZ after the Saviors run a truck in there kamikaze style. But don't quote me on that, and they also already did that with the Wolves. So I don't think it will happen on the show (again)
Good review. One thing though. Morgan is 100℅ still Pro "we don't kill". This was just showing that he's not stupid when it comes to it. If he really has no choice he will save the ones he loves.
I know i'm late to the party but there is a ~24 hour delay for the UK and i only watched it last night, also sorry if it's a bit long as i g… moreot carried away :P
Not including the cliffhanger (which i will get to in a moment) i enjoyed this episode, there where some intense moments throughout the episode whenever Rick and the others came across the savours roadblocks.
There where also some tense moments with Carol but i personally wasn't worried that she might die as i don't see her death ending that way, Morgan shooting the guy was good and hopefully he is past the "we don't kill" policy as it was slightly annoying and seeing the Kingdom guards find them got me pretty excited as that is another interesting part of the comic which i am looking forward to.
Now onto Negan's entrance.
The moment just before he came out of the RV was one of my most anticipated moments for the Walking Dead and along with the creepy whistling just before mad… [view original content]
No, I think that's the ASZ after the Saviors run a truck in there kamikaze style. But don't quote me on that, and they also already did that with the Wolves. So I don't think it will happen on the show (again)
Maybe but i think Season 7 needs to be left to developing the comunities so we care about them more. We need at least one or two eps dedicated to exploring each of them.
I know i'm late to the party but there is a ~24 hour delay for the UK and i only watched it last night, also sorry if it's a bit long as i g… moreot carried away :P
Not including the cliffhanger (which i will get to in a moment) i enjoyed this episode, there where some intense moments throughout the episode whenever Rick and the others came across the savours roadblocks.
There where also some tense moments with Carol but i personally wasn't worried that she might die as i don't see her death ending that way, Morgan shooting the guy was good and hopefully he is past the "we don't kill" policy as it was slightly annoying and seeing the Kingdom guards find them got me pretty excited as that is another interesting part of the comic which i am looking forward to.
Now onto Negan's entrance.
The moment just before he came out of the RV was one of my most anticipated moments for the Walking Dead and along with the creepy whistling just before mad… [view original content]
I Get the impression that its not "no kill" as much as wanting to give people a chance to choose to live. Options. You kill someone, you take away their options and yours. If Rick had killed that guy looking for his horse, he wouldnt have come back to help Morgan and Carol. On the other hand, he gave the savior a chance to walk away and he chose to attack, so he was taken down. I didnt Morgan what he needs to to protect his friends.
As for the cliffhanger, Im alright with it now. I wasnt in any hurry to see any of our people being beaten to death like a lot of fans who were practically foaming at the mouth over the prospect. I can spend the summer in anticipation instead of grief, lol.
Good review. One thing though. Morgan is 100℅ still Pro "we don't kill". This was just showing that he's not stupid when it comes to it. If he really has no choice he will save the ones he loves.
All the acting in this episode was superb, probably some of the best in the entire Walking Dead Series. Andrew Lincoln did an amazing job the entire episode. How confident he was in the beginning saying "Together we can do anything and nothing will stop us" to each Savior road block watching him become unsure and scared. At the end seeing a clearing full of saviors just completely broke Rick. Jeffery Dean Morgan's introduction was intimidating and basically prefect for Negan.
All the character's had great moments, and Steven Ogg nailed his role as the psychotic second in command. The episode was bogged down my Carol and Morgan's plot, until it was resolved, marking an important moment for Lennie Jame's Morgan. However, the massive cliffhanger wasn't artsy or clever, and sent a big "screw you" to all the fans, and is the reason for this poor score. I would have given this a 8 or 9/10 easily if it weren't for the horrifically poor taste cliffhanger ending.
15 episodes stretched over 7 months & a drawn out 90 minute finale that had NO PAYOFF. That entire episode was TV click-bait. A total waste of time. Screw you AMC. You guys really don't give your audience much credit. You CANNOT make your season finale just an advertisement for the next season and expect people to like being jerked around like that.
I Get the impression that its not "no kill" as much as wanting to give people a chance to choose to live. Options. You kill someone, you tak… moree away their options and yours. If Rick had killed that guy looking for his horse, he wouldnt have come back to help Morgan and Carol. On the other hand, he gave the savior a chance to walk away and he chose to attack, so he was taken down. I didnt Morgan what he needs to to protect his friends.
As for the cliffhanger, Im alright with it now. I wasnt in any hurry to see any of our people being beaten to death like a lot of fans who were practically foaming at the mouth over the prospect. I can spend the summer in anticipation instead of grief, lol.
Worse case scenario is S7 starts up like a week later and some characters are reminiscing with the dead character in a photo or something.
… more If they do what you said, the same thing but with different shots, I think it'll compensate at least a bit for the cliffhanger.
3/10
All the acting in this episode was superb, probably some of the best in the entire Walking Dead Series. Andrew Lincoln did an amazi… moreng job the entire episode. How confident he was in the beginning saying "Together we can do anything and nothing will stop us" to each Savior road block watching him become unsure and scared. At the end seeing a clearing full of saviors just completely broke Rick. Jeffery Dean Morgan's introduction was intimidating and basically prefect for Negan.
All the character's had great moments, and Steven Ogg nailed his role as the psychotic second in command. The episode was bogged down my Carol and Morgan's plot, until it was resolved, marking an important moment for Lennie Jame's Morgan. However, the massive cliffhanger wasn't artsy or clever, and sent a big "screw you" to all the fans, and is the reason for this poor score. I would have given this a 8 or 9/10 easily if it weren't for the horrifically poor t… [view original content]
Gimple has made 2 amazing seasons and pretty much saved the show from the disaster that was Glen Mazzara, he's the best show runner since Darabont and one of the best writers, if not the best, currently on the show. Despite my ill feelings towards this final episode, there's no way in hell he should be fired. Besides, I highly doubt that Gimple, who has been a very competent show runner, thought this was a good idea. I'm more inclined to believe that this was AMC getting way too involved (again) with the show and telling them how they should end the season. We've already had Darabont, Mazzara, and others quit or get fired because of AMC's meddling, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that told Gimple to do this, just to try and create publicity. The Walking Dead is not a show that needs to do petty shit like this to attract viewers, it's already one of the most highly watched shows on TV, why does AMC need to get greedy and say "We need more viewers."
Despite me agreeing with you on how he shouldn't be fired I do honestly think it's Scott's fault too, considering how he's acted during the latest Talking Dead and interviews regarding the controversial ending. Either that or he's just really really shit at doing damage control.
Gimple has made 2 amazing seasons and pretty much saved the show from the disaster that was Glen Mazzara, he's the best show runner since Da… morerabont and one of the best writers, if not the best, currently on the show. Despite my ill feelings towards this final episode, there's no way in hell he should be fired. Besides, I highly doubt that Gimple, who has been a very competent show runner, thought this was a good idea. I'm more inclined to believe that this was AMC getting way too involved (again) with the show and telling them how they should end the season. We've already had Darabont, Mazzara, and others quit or get fired because of AMC's meddling, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that told Gimple to do this, just to try and create publicity. The Walking Dead is not a show that needs to do petty shit like this to attract viewers, it's already one of the most highly watched shows on TV, why does AMC need to get greedy and say "We need more viewers."
They turned one of the most iconic moments in the comics and turned it into a 2 parter. And it's over several months of waiting. Bad move AMC. Other than that, I can't really complain much about the rest of the episode. Everyone's performance was spot on. Truly felt like some horrible shit anyone could come across in a real ZA. Also this may be season finale, but it's an introduction of great things to come.
Despite me agreeing with you on how he shouldn't be fired I do honestly think it's Scott's fault too, considering how he's acted during the … morelatest Talking Dead and interviews regarding the controversial ending. Either that or he's just really really shit at doing damage control.
Negan wants to work with them so he's not gunna attack. And he has the leader (rick) so he doesnt need to. He has to build 'Trust' so to speak as he want half of your shit. And attacking ASZ wont achieve that
Well he obviously can't come out and say "AMC made me do it," if he did, I'm sure he would get fired. As a result, he has to defend it, even if he doesn't want to.
Despite me agreeing with you on how he shouldn't be fired I do honestly think it's Scott's fault too, considering how he's acted during the … morelatest Talking Dead and interviews regarding the controversial ending. Either that or he's just really really shit at doing damage control.
I know Chris is part of the Talking Dead and on the Network etc so he can't bash it completely but I hate how he gets alot of the backlash from the show. That live thing he did was depressing to watch...
I'm with you, man. AMC meddle way too much, you can tell. And if anything this could drop viewers for the season 7 premiere, who knows?
I'm annoyed as hell as a comic reader and tv viewer of TWD, but i'm not gunna stop watching till it's cancelled or finishes tbh
Gimple has made 2 amazing seasons and pretty much saved the show from the disaster that was Glen Mazzara, he's the best show runner since Da… morerabont and one of the best writers, if not the best, currently on the show. Despite my ill feelings towards this final episode, there's no way in hell he should be fired. Besides, I highly doubt that Gimple, who has been a very competent show runner, thought this was a good idea. I'm more inclined to believe that this was AMC getting way too involved (again) with the show and telling them how they should end the season. We've already had Darabont, Mazzara, and others quit or get fired because of AMC's meddling, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that told Gimple to do this, just to try and create publicity. The Walking Dead is not a show that needs to do petty shit like this to attract viewers, it's already one of the most highly watched shows on TV, why does AMC need to get greedy and say "We need more viewers."
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Should have ended with negan saying "it" and it shows who he is pointing at. If it had to be a cliffhanger.
I am so pissed AMC.
Worse case scenario is S7 starts up like a week later and some characters are reminiscing with the dead character in a photo or something.
If they do what you said, the same thing but with different shots, I think it'll compensate at least a bit for the cliffhanger.
I was hoping that whoever got bashed was bashed, and then Negan gave his parting lines and walked away, with the group kneeling beside the dead character while the camera pans out from a bird's eye view.
How it would play out in my mind was very specific.
What are you implying - what, that Negan possibly goes for guys as well?
That was simmilar to mine. Maybe that can still happen?
Same here, I don't wanna see anyone die, I've come to like these characters and killing any of them can easily change the direction of the story. Plus I think ending it like they did invokes more of an important topic to talk about, if they just showed us who died, we wouldn't really be left with much to talk about but just another character to mourn in my opinion but I can't say the suspense wasn't allot xd I think the rampage will simmer down soon and go into theory making of who'll die, from the evidence I've since it could be Glenn but AMC could just be messing with us again :x
I know i'm late to the party but there is a ~24 hour delay for the UK and i only watched it last night, also sorry if it's a bit long as i got carried away :P
Not including the cliffhanger (which i will get to in a moment) i enjoyed this episode, there where some intense moments throughout the episode whenever Rick and the others came across the savours roadblocks.
There where also some tense moments with Carol but i personally wasn't worried that she might die as i don't see her death ending that way, Morgan shooting the guy was good and hopefully he is past the "we don't kill" policy as it was slightly annoying and seeing the Kingdom guards find them got me pretty excited as that is another interesting part of the comic which i am looking forward to.
Now onto Negan's entrance.
The moment just before he came out of the RV was one of my most anticipated moments for the Walking Dead and along with the creepy whistling just before made the whole scene even more intense, I thought it was great to see (nearly the entire) Negan entrance scene from the comics playout almost word for word and i thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan did a fantastic job at playing Negan but personally (and like many others) i felt the cliff hanger ruined the flow of the scene.
Up to that point i personally thought was one of the most intense and well played out scenes that the Walking Dead has filmed but leaving it on a cliff hanger was extremely annoying, not counting the fact once the show returns in October most people won't have the same level of fear and anticipation that they had leading up to this final but AMC will most likely have filler before the Lucelle scene, unless the whole Negan entrance happens again in the first episode i think most people will likely not feel as anticipated about who dies as they will have months to think about it and the victim will
most likelyleak before it broadcasts.I was hoping that this was one of the last scenes.
They could've changed the scene slightly to have Negan walking away laughing or just saying "ta ta" as they slowly zoomed onto Rick's face while he looks terrified and angry or show a close up of the victims smashed up face and then cut to credits, that way we would've had the whole shocking death scene for people who don't read the comics along with the satisfaction for people who do read the comics.
tbh, I understand that people don't like TSDF because assholes that follow the group will not keep it in the group and will leak it to the rest of the internet. I get this, and it's valid criticism.
But this case is different. We should know who it was that Negan killed at the end. This time, it isn't about story details that will ruin the enjoyment. It's about something that we should know already, and that was purposefully kept from us to create a cheap cliffhanger.
Usually, I'm also not really with TSDF, but I can't wait for them to leak who died because I just want to see this blow in AMC's face so bad and have them lose all the people that would have just tuned in to see who Negan killed (e.g. half of the fanbase right now)
Eh, it will be one to two months. I think people will cater to TSDF now, and they'll probably know who it is on the very first day of filming by process of elimination.
No, I think that's the ASZ after the Saviors run a truck in there kamikaze style. But don't quote me on that, and they also already did that with the Wolves. So I don't think it will happen on the show (again)
Dude if you've seen the trailers it's very clear that he's alive.
Good review. One thing though. Morgan is 100℅ still Pro "we don't kill". This was just showing that he's not stupid when it comes to it. If he really has no choice he will save the ones he loves.
But they would have to skip a lot of good things to get there. Unless he means Dwights attack.
Yeah, that's why I figured. It will be a cliffhanger for a season 7 episode. That's what I'm thinking.
Maybe but i think Season 7 needs to be left to developing the comunities so we care about them more. We need at least one or two eps dedicated to exploring each of them.
There is just so much story potencial.
Yes perfect cliffhanger, another one is currently the ending in issue 152!
Living in UK is hard isn't - avoiding everything at all costs haha
I Get the impression that its not "no kill" as much as wanting to give people a chance to choose to live. Options. You kill someone, you take away their options and yours. If Rick had killed that guy looking for his horse, he wouldnt have come back to help Morgan and Carol. On the other hand, he gave the savior a chance to walk away and he chose to attack, so he was taken down. I didnt Morgan what he needs to to protect his friends.
As for the cliffhanger, Im alright with it now. I wasnt in any hurry to see any of our people being beaten to death like a lot of fans who were practically foaming at the mouth over the prospect. I can spend the summer in anticipation instead of grief, lol.
3/10
All the acting in this episode was superb, probably some of the best in the entire Walking Dead Series. Andrew Lincoln did an amazing job the entire episode. How confident he was in the beginning saying "Together we can do anything and nothing will stop us" to each Savior road block watching him become unsure and scared. At the end seeing a clearing full of saviors just completely broke Rick. Jeffery Dean Morgan's introduction was intimidating and basically prefect for Negan.
All the character's had great moments, and Steven Ogg nailed his role as the psychotic second in command. The episode was bogged down my Carol and Morgan's plot, until it was resolved, marking an important moment for Lennie Jame's Morgan. However, the massive cliffhanger wasn't artsy or clever, and sent a big "screw you" to all the fans, and is the reason for this poor score. I would have given this a 8 or 9/10 easily if it weren't for the horrifically poor taste cliffhanger ending.
15 episodes stretched over 7 months & a drawn out 90 minute finale that had NO PAYOFF. That entire episode was TV click-bait. A total waste of time. Screw you AMC. You guys really don't give your audience much credit. You CANNOT make your season finale just an advertisement for the next season and expect people to like being jerked around like that.
But now we have to be carefull. The death can be leaked at any moment.
That's the best they can do, in my opinion. People could at least refer to that episode when talking about Negan's introduction.
The Season 6 ending will be the new Survival Instinct; everyone act like it never happened.
Wouldnt be the end of the world. Id almost prefer it just so we can move on with the story.
We will eventually. I just want it to be good
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You can't damn a good Episode for its stupid ending.
The Episode itself was great it doesn't deserve a 3/ 10.
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Just gonna leave this here...
Do you guys think ASZ was attacked while they were gone?
Gimple has made 2 amazing seasons and pretty much saved the show from the disaster that was Glen Mazzara, he's the best show runner since Darabont and one of the best writers, if not the best, currently on the show. Despite my ill feelings towards this final episode, there's no way in hell he should be fired. Besides, I highly doubt that Gimple, who has been a very competent show runner, thought this was a good idea. I'm more inclined to believe that this was AMC getting way too involved (again) with the show and telling them how they should end the season. We've already had Darabont, Mazzara, and others quit or get fired because of AMC's meddling, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that told Gimple to do this, just to try and create publicity. The Walking Dead is not a show that needs to do petty shit like this to attract viewers, it's already one of the most highly watched shows on TV, why does AMC need to get greedy and say "We need more viewers."
Despite me agreeing with you on how he shouldn't be fired I do honestly think it's Scott's fault too, considering how he's acted during the latest Talking Dead and interviews regarding the controversial ending. Either that or he's just really really shit at doing damage control.
They turned one of the most iconic moments in the comics and turned it into a 2 parter. And it's over several months of waiting. Bad move AMC. Other than that, I can't really complain much about the rest of the episode. Everyone's performance was spot on. Truly felt like some horrible shit anyone could come across in a real ZA. Also this may be season finale, but it's an introduction of great things to come.
He really wasn't happy about it. Look at his face.
Nope.
I'm with @Lord_EAA
Negan wants to work with them so he's not gunna attack. And he has the leader (rick) so he doesnt need to. He has to build 'Trust' so to speak as he want half of your shit. And attacking ASZ wont achieve that
Well he obviously can't come out and say "AMC made me do it," if he did, I'm sure he would get fired. As a result, he has to defend it, even if he doesn't want to.
I know Chris is part of the Talking Dead and on the Network etc so he can't bash it completely but I hate how he gets alot of the backlash from the show. That live thing he did was depressing to watch...
I'm with you, man. AMC meddle way too much, you can tell. And if anything this could drop viewers for the season 7 premiere, who knows?
I'm annoyed as hell as a comic reader and tv viewer of TWD, but i'm not gunna stop watching till it's cancelled or finishes tbh
It's a good episode, i'm mad at the cliffhanger but the first reviews I saw were crappy IMO.
It has the second lowest Episode rating on rotten tomatoes.
Just for 20 seconds.
Too much lol.
He wanted them to work for him in the comics and they still attacked