So Sansa is heading North, Theon west... I was kinda hoping she was going to Riverlands. Roose Bolton stabbed in the heart like Robb Stark w… moreas, and poor Walda and baby bolton, but it was in the air, Roose had a very stupid idea threatening His Monster son the the last episode. The mountain still smashing heads(lol, he deserved it) and Tommen realizing how useless he was as a king, he basically said that he doesn't want to see his mother because he is embarrassed by his poor job. Well, the resurrection of Jon, that escalated quickly, it seemed easier than I expected, but maybe there will be repercussions. Even the dragons were too friendly with Tyrion, I expected it to happen more gradually.
So Sansa is heading North, Theon west... I was kinda hoping she was going to Riverlands. Roose Bolton stabbed in the heart like Robb Stark w… moreas, and poor Walda and baby bolton, but it was in the air, Roose had a very stupid idea threatening His Monster son the the last episode. The mountain still smashing heads(lol, he deserved it) and Tommen realizing how useless he was as a king, he basically said that he doesn't want to see his mother because he is embarrassed by his poor job. Well, the resurrection of Jon, that escalated quickly, it seemed easier than I expected, but maybe there will be repercussions. Even the dragons were too friendly with Tyrion, I expected it to happen more gradually.
Why is Euron so popular again? Because hes another sand snakes for me, there is all this hype over such little material,
I remember Victorian doing plenty however all I remember from the books is Euron winning the kingsmoot.
Its because he is seen by many as the physical embodiment of the Ironborn ideals.
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
So Sansa is heading North, Theon west... I was kinda hoping she was going to Riverlands. Roose Bolton stabbed in the heart like Robb Stark w… moreas, and poor Walda and baby bolton, but it was in the air, Roose had a very stupid idea threatening His Monster son the the last episode. The mountain still smashing heads(lol, he deserved it) and Tommen realizing how useless he was as a king, he basically said that he doesn't want to see his mother because he is embarrassed by his poor job. Well, the resurrection of Jon, that escalated quickly, it seemed easier than I expected, but maybe there will be repercussions. Even the dragons were too friendly with Tyrion, I expected it to happen more gradually.
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
...Why?
Again what did he do in the b… moreooks, and I mean anything.
His character has potential dont get me wrong, but im honestly seeing his show character follow victorians character path
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
...Why?
Again what did he do in the b… moreooks, and I mean anything.
His character has potential dont get me wrong, but im honestly seeing his show character follow victorians character path
Hes the guy who jumped out at her and whipped his thing out at her, thats likely why. Who are your rooting for in this militant/lannister conflict by the way?
Yes basically. They find him a great character with great potential for the story.
Hype itself comes from what one assumes, thinks or hopes will happen or how the potential to reinterpretate a nostalgic moment the story could be if done well.
Of course, he didn't deserve it, I was ironic. If he was then, in Westeros everybody would be dead for speaking behind.
But if someone is talking bad things behind your back, wouldn't you want to see his head smashed like that?
Yeah, I figured the way he was bragging. But people were spitting, throwing food and god knows what on her. I guess he should have kept his lip zipped.
Im leaning toward the faith millitant. Ive been waiting a long time to see the Lannisters go down, and frankly, Cercei brought this on herself. It doesnt mean I agree with all of their tactics, but I enjoy watching the high sparrow in action.
Hes the guy who jumped out at her and whipped his thing out at her, thats likely why. Who are your rooting for in this militant/lannister conflict by the way?
Of course, he didn't deserve it, I was ironic. If he was then, in Westeros everybody would be dead for speaking behind.
But if someone is talking bad things behind your back, wouldn't you want to see his head smashed like that?
I hope that since this is the first time he has died and been brought back, most of him is still there. Its not going to be a Beric Dondarrion situation where he is almost a walking corpse.
Also, him waking alone after everyone but his Ghost had given up, much more dramatic and tense. The audience almost gives up, then bam! And he can walk out of the room and have everyone in shock, and from the preview, worshiping him like a god. I cant wait to se Thorne's face.
Hallelujah Jon Snow is back I just hope it doesn't cost him, I think that he might lose his memorises. but I don't know why they brought him… more back to life with no one was in the room apart from Ghost it seems like the Red Woman was going to give up her faith, if she saw that it might have stopped her.
The Ramsey scene was really good. very creepy and disturbing. Also the flashback was great but really short. we didn't learn much from it. I am glad they are moving on with Aarya turning into an assassin. that storyline was moving on too slowly.
I thought Melisandre would have to sacrifice herself or something.
I'm glad she didn't. We're only just beginning to understand her as a character, it would be shame to lose her now.
I agree that Euron in the books is a bit over hyped (though he might still prove himself to be worth the praise in TWoW). However, the reason why I am excited for him in the show is because he breaths new life to the story of the Greyjoy's and even in the bigger scale brings in a new interesting antagonist.
It's too early to make the final judgment yet, but I really enjoyed his introduction scene. I'm also happy they let the actor impress us with his acting, instead of making him visually an over the top flashy pirate villain (with eyepatch and what not).
Why is Euron so popular again? Because hes another sand snakes for me, there is all this hype over such little material,
I remember Victorian doing plenty however all I remember from the books is Euron winning the kingsmoot.
Yeah, I figured the way he was bragging. But people were spitting, throwing food and god knows what on her. I guess he should have kept his … morelip zipped.
Im leaning toward the faith millitant. Ive been waiting a long time to see the Lannisters go down, and frankly, Cercei brought this on herself. It doesnt mean I agree with all of their tactics, but I enjoy watching the high sparrow in action.
...Why?
Why is Euron so popular again? Because hes another sand snakes for me, there is all this hype over such little material,
REEEEEEEEEE.
On a serious note, he basically made the Iron Islands great again after the poor and unuseful reign of Balon Greyjoy.
What he did:
-Strongly implied that he ordered the death of Balon, a lame king.
-Got elected King of the Iron Islands.
-He rekt the Tyrells taking several islands while Tyrells are dealing with the faith militant/Dragonstone. It's quite a good strategic move.
-He travelled all around the world, even in Valyria according to what he says.
-He's badass in a good way.
What he plans:
-Taking Oldtown.
-Taking Westeros.
-Stealing dragons as Quentyn tried to. Except he's got a horn in order to do it.
You're right about Victarion; basically Euron in the tv form will be the mix of these two brothers, it has been stated somewhere. I think he will take his path instead of attacking Tyrells in the tv show.
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
...Why?
Again what did he do in the b… moreooks, and I mean anything.
His character has potential dont get me wrong, but im honestly seeing his show character follow victorians character path
One thing. Theon told Sansa he was going ''home''. What if he is still Reek, and he might actually mean Winterfell instead of Pyke? There is that one scene where he asks Ramsay ''Will we go home now, m'lord?''. Do you guys think he might still be Reek? We might be lead on to believe he means Pyke, but I am not sure he is out of the woods yet when it comes to his identity issues. OR he might just pretend to be Reek and try to execute Ramsay? I don't know, but I feel we will see him approach Winterfell and it will be one of those WTF moments.
...Why?
Why is Euron so popular again? Because hes another sand snakes for me, there is all this hype over such little material,
… moreREEEEEEEEEE.
On a serious note, he basically made the Iron Islands great again after the poor and unuseful reign of Balon Greyjoy.
What he did:
-Strongly implied that he ordered the death of Balon, a lame king.
-Got elected King of the Iron Islands.
-He rekt the Tyrells taking several islands while Tyrells are dealing with the faith militant/Dragonstone. It's quite a good strategic move.
-He travelled all around the world, even in Valyria according to what he says.
-He's badass in a good way.
What he plans:
-Taking Oldtown.
-Taking Westeros.
-Stealing dragons as Quentyn tried to. Except he's got a horn in order to do it.
You're right about Victarion; basically Euron in the tv form will be the mix of these two brothers, it has been stated somewhere. I think he will take his path instead of attacking Tyrells in the tv show.
No, I think this was his redemption moment. He owned up to everything he did, accepted Sansa's forgiveness, picked up a sword again. He's on his way back to being Theon. I didnt think he meant anything other than going back to his actual home. I cant imagine him wanting to be within a hundred feet of Ramsay now, it would be foolish.
One thing. Theon told Sansa he was going ''home''. What if he is still Reek, and he might actually mean Winterfell instead of Pyke? There is… more that one scene where he asks Ramsay ''Will we go home now, m'lord?''. Do you guys think he might still be Reek? We might be lead on to believe he means Pyke, but I am not sure he is out of the woods yet when it comes to his identity issues. OR he might just pretend to be Reek and try to execute Ramsay? I don't know, but I feel we will see him approach Winterfell and it will be one of those WTF moments.
Could be, but just keep an eye on it. He might ask for forgiveness or something. I could be wrong, but I have a gut feeling something like that might happen. He also confessed to Ramsay one time that his real father died in King's Landing, which means he might not think of Pyke as his home anymore. Sure, that was his moment of redemption, but I think it is very possible for him to slip back in Reek mode. Not completely Reek, like shaking while talking etc. but not completely Theon. We'll see, I guess. But I really do not expect for him to go to Pyke after everything he went through with Balon. I might just be thinking too much into it, but the way he looked at Sansa when he told her he is going home looked a tad bit sinister, like there is a deeper meaning to it. I don't think he ever thought of Pyke as home after getting shipped off to Winterfell. But that's just my 2 cents on it. He saved Sansa, and got her to safety, which was what he wanted to do. But other than that, there is nothing else for him to do. He redeemed himself, and I feel Winterfell is the only home he knows now. Also this show is known for some plot twists, and this kind of bait seems totally possible to me.
No, I think this was his redemption moment. He owned up to everything he did, accepted Sansa's forgiveness, picked up a sword again. He's on… more his way back to being Theon. I didnt think he meant anything other than going back to his actual home. I cant imagine him wanting to be within a hundred feet of Ramsay now, it would be foolish.
This is the first time I really cared about the Bran stuff. I never was a fan of it even in the book. Nothing against him personally, just the warging story doesnt interest me.
i cant wait to see melisandre's face. Carice is such a great actress i love all of her facial expressions, so i cant wait to see how she reacts when she sees that shit work and jon is back.
I hope that since this is the first time he has died and been brought back, most of him is still there. Its not going to be a Beric Dondarri… moreon situation where he is almost a walking corpse.
Also, him waking alone after everyone but his Ghost had given up, much more dramatic and tense. The audience almost gives up, then bam! And he can walk out of the room and have everyone in shock, and from the preview, worshiping him like a god. I cant wait to se Thorne's face.
This is the first time I really cared about the Bran stuff. I never was a fan of it even in the book. Nothing against him personally, just the warging story doesnt interest me.
I think the fact that he is going home to the Iron Islands is to give Theon some other storylines. He can side with his sister against their uncle at the Kingsmoot. Im sure people dont want him going back to being Reek. He was tortured for three seasons. Its possible if they win, they can also rally their soldiers to help Jon against Ramsey. But him slinking back to rejoin Ramsay, I dont see it. But of course, we have eight more episodes to find out. I find this who,e off the book thing exciting, not knowing what to expect.
Could be, but just keep an eye on it. He might ask for forgiveness or something. I could be wrong, but I have a gut feeling something like t… morehat might happen. He also confessed to Ramsay one time that his real father died in King's Landing, which means he might not think of Pyke as his home anymore. Sure, that was his moment of redemption, but I think it is very possible for him to slip back in Reek mode. Not completely Reek, like shaking while talking etc. but not completely Theon. We'll see, I guess. But I really do not expect for him to go to Pyke after everything he went through with Balon. I might just be thinking too much into it, but the way he looked at Sansa when he told her he is going home looked a tad bit sinister, like there is a deeper meaning to it. I don't think he ever thought of Pyke as home after getting shipped off to Winterfell. But that's just my 2 cents on it. He saved Sansa, and got her to safety, which was what he want… [view original content]
Lmao, can't wait to see how long the Boltons will last now. Ramsey just tied a rope around his own neck.
I'm confused tho. Why is Lord Ka… morerstark helping Ramsey? Robb killed his father and Roose killed Robb... shouldn't he be gratefull?
Oh, and great job making ramsey even more detestable.
Hes the guy who jumped out at her and whipped his thing out at her, thats likely why. Who are your rooting for in this militant/lannister conflict by the way?
I know right? Not knowing at all what will happen next is very exciting. Also, in case you thought so, I do not want Theon to become Reek again. But he said home very vaguely and that sort of made me think theres a plot twist coming. Idk im probably wrong about this, and I really hope it doesn't happen, but I have a feeling it might. Also, having Theon meet up with Yara and fight Euron will be some of the most epic shit ever if it happens. Euron is also a pretty badass character, I really hope they don't kill him off. At least not too soon.
I think the fact that he is going home to the Iron Islands is to give Theon some other storylines. He can side with his sister against their… more uncle at the Kingsmoot. Im sure people dont want him going back to being Reek. He was tortured for three seasons. Its possible if they win, they can also rally their soldiers to help Jon against Ramsey. But him slinking back to rejoin Ramsay, I dont see it. But of course, we have eight more episodes to find out. I find this who,e off the book thing exciting, not knowing what to expect.
No, to Roose for killing the killer of his father.
Wait I'm extremely confused rn: what I meant was why is the Karstark soldier/representative/diplomat/whatever loyal to Ramsey and not to Roose?
I assume Ramsay has promised him something. Or maybe he just likes the way Ramsay thinks rather than the way Roose thinks. Example of this being that Ramsay wants to murder Jon while Roose sees it as foolish move to make. And Jon is half Stark, which makes him an enemy to the Karstark.
We will certainly see more of how Ramsay handles the Northern politics in the future episodes.
No, to Roose for killing the killer of his father.
Wait I'm extremely confused rn: what I meant was why is the Karstark soldier/representative/diplomat/whatever loyal to Ramsey and not to Roose?
The episode was insane! We got justice for Robb Stark! The Walda/baby scene was really, really disturbing, and it's pretty obvious the writers are making us hate Ramsay as much as possible before his probable death at the end of the season.
Wun Wun breaking through the gate and smashing that Night's Watch member was epic. It alluded very well to Wun Wun smashing Ser Patrek in the novels, which was also very satisfying.
Bran was more interesting than I thought he'd be and I find myself looking forward to seeing him next week.
The King's Landing scenes were very enjoyable as well. Jaime's lines were epic, and it was nice to see Tommen admit he's a pretty lame king and ask Cersei for help.
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It was a little fast but id rather it be a little fast than a little slow, especially given the episode count.
As I said above these two episodes have been moving most pieces into place or resolving season 5 plot lines
Its because he is seen by many as the physical embodiment of the Ironborn ideals.
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
...Why?
Again what did he do in the books, and I mean anything.
His character has potential dont get me wrong, but im honestly seeing his show character follow victorians character path
I dont agree that some drunk smack talking is deserving of having your head crushed but I would expect nothing less of Cercei.
He's flashy. People like that.
Mostly cause of potencial as you said. George R Martion has said he will be a big player in the remainder of SOIAF's saga.
And that of course.
So thats it really? Thats why people are so hyped about this guy?
Hes the guy who jumped out at her and whipped his thing out at her, thats likely why. Who are your rooting for in this militant/lannister conflict by the way?
This episode gave my dog aids
Yes basically. They find him a great character with great potential for the story.
Hype itself comes from what one assumes, thinks or hopes will happen or how the potential to reinterpretate a nostalgic moment the story could be if done well.
Euron just happens to be the former.
Of course, he didn't deserve it, I was ironic. If he was then, in Westeros everybody would be dead for speaking behind.
But if someone is talking bad things behind your back, wouldn't you want to see his head smashed like that?
rip in pepperoni, doggy.
Yeah, I figured the way he was bragging. But people were spitting, throwing food and god knows what on her. I guess he should have kept his lip zipped.
Im leaning toward the faith millitant. Ive been waiting a long time to see the Lannisters go down, and frankly, Cercei brought this on herself. It doesnt mean I agree with all of their tactics, but I enjoy watching the high sparrow in action.
No, I like to think Im not that extreme. Plus, Im offended by the fact that the Mountain is still alive in any form
I hope that since this is the first time he has died and been brought back, most of him is still there. Its not going to be a Beric Dondarrion situation where he is almost a walking corpse.
Also, him waking alone after everyone but his Ghost had given up, much more dramatic and tense. The audience almost gives up, then bam! And he can walk out of the room and have everyone in shock, and from the preview, worshiping him like a god. I cant wait to se Thorne's face.
Id like to see what else she can do. I still cant forgive her for Shireen but helping Jon would go toward that.
I agree that Euron in the books is a bit over hyped (though he might still prove himself to be worth the praise in TWoW). However, the reason why I am excited for him in the show is because he breaths new life to the story of the Greyjoy's and even in the bigger scale brings in a new interesting antagonist.
It's too early to make the final judgment yet, but I really enjoyed his introduction scene. I'm also happy they let the actor impress us with his acting, instead of making him visually an over the top flashy pirate villain (with eyepatch and what not).
I'm the opposite im looking forward to cersei destroying them and then those sand bitches
REEEEEEEEEE.
On a serious note, he basically made the Iron Islands great again after the poor and unuseful reign of Balon Greyjoy.
What he did:
-Strongly implied that he ordered the death of Balon, a lame king.
-Got elected King of the Iron Islands.
-He rekt the Tyrells taking several islands while Tyrells are dealing with the faith militant/Dragonstone. It's quite a good strategic move.
-He travelled all around the world, even in Valyria according to what he says.
-He's badass in a good way.
What he plans:
-Taking Oldtown.
-Taking Westeros.
-Stealing dragons as Quentyn tried to. Except he's got a horn in order to do it.
You're right about Victarion; basically Euron in the tv form will be the mix of these two brothers, it has been stated somewhere. I think he will take his path instead of attacking Tyrells in the tv show.
One thing. Theon told Sansa he was going ''home''. What if he is still Reek, and he might actually mean Winterfell instead of Pyke? There is that one scene where he asks Ramsay ''Will we go home now, m'lord?''. Do you guys think he might still be Reek? We might be lead on to believe he means Pyke, but I am not sure he is out of the woods yet when it comes to his identity issues. OR he might just pretend to be Reek and try to execute Ramsay? I don't know, but I feel we will see him approach Winterfell and it will be one of those WTF moments.
I guess, the problem is most of the stuff he does happens off page which is why im hoping the show has him do stuff on camera
No, I think this was his redemption moment. He owned up to everything he did, accepted Sansa's forgiveness, picked up a sword again. He's on his way back to being Theon. I didnt think he meant anything other than going back to his actual home. I cant imagine him wanting to be within a hundred feet of Ramsay now, it would be foolish.
Could be, but just keep an eye on it. He might ask for forgiveness or something. I could be wrong, but I have a gut feeling something like that might happen. He also confessed to Ramsay one time that his real father died in King's Landing, which means he might not think of Pyke as his home anymore. Sure, that was his moment of redemption, but I think it is very possible for him to slip back in Reek mode. Not completely Reek, like shaking while talking etc. but not completely Theon. We'll see, I guess. But I really do not expect for him to go to Pyke after everything he went through with Balon. I might just be thinking too much into it, but the way he looked at Sansa when he told her he is going home looked a tad bit sinister, like there is a deeper meaning to it. I don't think he ever thought of Pyke as home after getting shipped off to Winterfell. But that's just my 2 cents on it. He saved Sansa, and got her to safety, which was what he wanted to do. But other than that, there is nothing else for him to do. He redeemed himself, and I feel Winterfell is the only home he knows now. Also this show is known for some plot twists, and this kind of bait seems totally possible to me.
This is the first time I really cared about the Bran stuff. I never was a fan of it even in the book. Nothing against him personally, just the warging story doesnt interest me.
Ha! Well, we'll see who triumphs.
i cant wait to see melisandre's face. Carice is such a great actress i love all of her facial expressions, so i cant wait to see how she reacts when she sees that shit work and jon is back.
Me too. I like that they are using his story to look into the past.
Lmao, can't wait to see how long the Boltons will last now. Ramsey just tied a rope around his own neck.
I'm confused tho. Why is Lord Karstark helping Ramsey? Robb killed his father and Roose killed Robb... shouldn't he be gratefull?
Oh, and great job making ramsey even more detestable.
I think the fact that he is going home to the Iron Islands is to give Theon some other storylines. He can side with his sister against their uncle at the Kingsmoot. Im sure people dont want him going back to being Reek. He was tortured for three seasons. Its possible if they win, they can also rally their soldiers to help Jon against Ramsey. But him slinking back to rejoin Ramsay, I dont see it. But of course, we have eight more episodes to find out. I find this who,e off the book thing exciting, not knowing what to expect.
Gratefeul to Ramsey?
Oh. Was he the guy that shouted "I'm a lannister,suck me off!"?
I loved every second of it. Especially when Jaime confronted HS. And Wun Wun. What a stupid crossbowman.
I know right? Not knowing at all what will happen next is very exciting. Also, in case you thought so, I do not want Theon to become Reek again. But he said home very vaguely and that sort of made me think theres a plot twist coming. Idk im probably wrong about this, and I really hope it doesn't happen, but I have a feeling it might. Also, having Theon meet up with Yara and fight Euron will be some of the most epic shit ever if it happens. Euron is also a pretty badass character, I really hope they don't kill him off. At least not too soon.
No, to Roose for killing the killer of his father.
Wait I'm extremely confused rn: what I meant was why is the Karstark soldier/representative/diplomat/whatever loyal to Ramsey and not to Roose?
He did say something about out with the old in with the new, maybe that extends to old boltons being replaced by new boltons
I assume Ramsay has promised him something. Or maybe he just likes the way Ramsay thinks rather than the way Roose thinks. Example of this being that Ramsay wants to murder Jon while Roose sees it as foolish move to make. And Jon is half Stark, which makes him an enemy to the Karstark.
We will certainly see more of how Ramsay handles the Northern politics in the future episodes.
"It's time for new blood in the North." I think was the line.
The episode was insane! We got justice for Robb Stark! The Walda/baby scene was really, really disturbing, and it's pretty obvious the writers are making us hate Ramsay as much as possible before his probable death at the end of the season.
Wun Wun breaking through the gate and smashing that Night's Watch member was epic. It alluded very well to Wun Wun smashing Ser Patrek in the novels, which was also very satisfying.
Bran was more interesting than I thought he'd be and I find myself looking forward to seeing him next week.
The King's Landing scenes were very enjoyable as well. Jaime's lines were epic, and it was nice to see Tommen admit he's a pretty lame king and ask Cersei for help.