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  • So Ramsay, Sansa and Jon might all be at Castle Black at the same time.

    I think this season is gonna be intense.

  • I think from now on the season (in the North) will be all about Team Jon vs. Team Ramsay. And it seems Team Jon will have at least Sansa, Davos, Melisandre, Tormund and Dolorous Edd. Yep, sounds pretty fucking amazing! :D

    Worthington posted: »

    So Ramsay, Sansa and Jon might all be at Castle Black at the same time. I think this season is gonna be intense.

  • Also got to think about Arya and the Faceless Men. I really dont want her to join them because that means she can no longer be Arya Stark and have to leave her past life. Meaning no kills on her list (Cersei, Ilyn Payne, etc).

    She even might have to kill someone from her family if she is given the task, and that would be shit.

    I think from now on the season (in the North) will be all about Team Jon vs. Team Ramsay. And it seems Team Jon will have at least Sansa, Davos, Melisandre, Tormund and Dolorous Edd. Yep, sounds pretty fucking amazing!

  • Arya's storyline is probably the biggest mystery for me. I've got no idea what exactly will they do with her, and what will be the role of the Faceless Men in the end game. But giving her a mission to kill someone from her family (Jon perhaps? Maybe FM are not so happy with this Lord of Light thing and resurrections) certainly does sound something GoT could do.

    Worthington posted: »

    Also got to think about Arya and the Faceless Men. I really dont want her to join them because that means she can no longer be Arya Stark an

  • Yeah ive always assumed she will be sent to kill a family member or something

    Arya's storyline is probably the biggest mystery for me. I've got no idea what exactly will they do with her, and what will be the role of t

  • edited May 2016

    Roose Bolton was an excellent king and a great contestant for an Iron Throne.

    Never he was a king, never he would be, he's too smart to fall for that shit.

    Although he wasn't as smart when he was younger, I mean, he basically brought his own death upon himself: he encouraged it when his bastard was growing into a deranged hobbit while his heir was kind of a wussy.

    Roose even hoped his both sons would never know of each other existence while providing for bastard and giving him a servant (or is Reek a profession on it's own?), and when Ramsay finally killed the only heir of Dreadfort, Roose gave him no retribution whatsoever for years because reasons.

    Roose did say that a child lord is a disaster, so it's too late to try for a proper heir again, but even fucking Joffrey would make a better lord than Ramsay

  • I only worry about Griff because he seemed destined to play some big role in the future, considering that he is the only official fertile Targ, raised to be a great king, and what Varys has done in his favor so far in the books. I mean, fatty basically went on a Lannister killing spree, there are so much people invested in little Aegon, GRRM can't just end so much hopes and dreams midway, right?

    Victarion will get to Meereen I think there merging Euron/Victorian into one character which makes sense really Except I found

  • Im really interested in what happens to the book character, but he was added a bit late for him to be a major player in my opinion, Im predicting some form of disaster (perhaps of the greyscale variety) that forces varys to backtrack to dany. However in the show I get why they left him out, its much easier to have varys root for dany instead.

    I only worry about Griff because he seemed destined to play some big role in the future, considering that he is the only official fertile Ta

  • The same actor was stopped filming so no recasting I guess. They will have to explain his ageing however, they barely got away with Bran.

    I wonder if Rickon does show up if he will be recasted or not. Also is Rickon a warg? I feel like he definetly is because didn't he see Ned

  • I think he meant the actor who played Roose.

    Wait, Iwan Rheon is leaving? Noooo :O Edit: Seems like the northern houses will betray him, with Jon

  • edited May 2016

    Episode 9 will be the day, mark my words.

    In fact, this is how I hope it plays out (let me know what you think)

    Jon Vs Ramsay-

    I think Ramsay uses Rickon to lure Jon (and maybe Sansa) to him. Houses Karstark, Umber (I'd love if they included Whitehill but I doubt it) and some other Northern houses will have his back.

    Jon has the Mormonts and Manderlys, possibly some help from Sansa and Littlefinger and the Wildlings (hopefully Wun-Wun too).

    Jon approaches the gate with his men, Ramsay and his crossbowmen line the walls. He turns to Jon,

    'Winterfell is mine, come and see.'

    Ramsay then brutally murders Rickon (flaying, hounds, tossing him idk) right in front of Jon to aggravate him. Jon is furious and his army fights Ramsay's, he is outnumbered.

    Slowly, he realises he is losing the battle and he doesn't care anymore. He wants to get to Ramsay and avenge Rickon, Theon and Sansa. Wun-Wun breaks down the gate of Winterfell and fights off some Boltons before finally falling in battle. Jon is saddened by the loss of the giant and leads some of the wildlings into Winterfell. His army outside is almost defeated until.....

    SANSA! She arrives with Littlefinger AND the Knights of the Vale and they wipe the floor with Bolton's army. Jon continues to fight his way through Winterfell until he reaches Ramsay. They stare each other down and draw their swords.

    'Well, this was always how it was going to end wasn't it?' Ramsay smirks 'Us two bastards of noble houses, in positions we should have had years ago'

    'I'm no bastard. You're looking at the son of Rheagar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. Fire and Ice.'

    'Well then my lord, are we going to talk all day, or shall we fight?'

    Jon and Ramsay clash swords. Epic music starts playing. Jon is the better fighter but Ramsay is just too crazy and unpredictable. After a brief tussle, Ramsay stabs Jon in the shoulder.

    'Oh my. Our blades ARE sharp, aren't they?' he sadistically laughs.

    Jon is disarmed and begins to punch Ramsay while he digs his sword in deeper. Ramsay is not showing any pain however, laughing at every punch.

    'Hahahahaha! Seven hells, I expected at least a good fight out of you but this.... Your sister could hit harder than this, and I shut her up pretty good'.

    Jon yells and pulls the blade out of his shoulder before turning the sword and stabbing Ramsay in the gut, pushing his sword all the way through.

    'This is MY home!'

    Ramsay actually screams in agony and collapses to the ground, beginning to bleed out. He looks around himself and sees his army be slaughtered before his eyes, he realises that he has lost the North. He then looks broken and simply asks Jon to kill him. Jon draws Longclaw before looking around and sheathing it. He sees Rickon's body being devoured by Ramsay's hounds. He grabs Ramsay by the collar and throws him to his own hounds. Insert badass one-liner here. He then see Ramsay's legs be torn off and devoured, him screaming the entire time. He raises his arm for Jon, begging for a mercy kill, but Jon won't let him off that easy. The next shot is like something you'd see off the Walking Dead as, unlike Walda and the baby, we see Ramsay's guts and intestines get ripped out as Jon watches with no emotion, muttering

    'Winerfell is mine.'

    Is this good?

    Gary-Oak posted: »

    Get ready for BASTARDBOWL everyone. Place your bets. Tickets are $10.

  • Pissed me off that it appears Theon won't be the one to kill Ramsay.

  • I know what you mean. It seems like it'll be Jon and I'm sure I'll enjoy that but Theon or Sansa deserve it more.

    Pissed me off that it appears Theon won't be the one to kill Ramsay.

  • Its sounds cool but not game of thrones, it sounds a bit cliche especially the dialogue. I'm almost thinking ramseys allies might betray him from the inside, thats what took down joffrey and we might see the same thing here

    Episode 9 will be the day, mark my words. In fact, this is how I hope it plays out (let me know what you think) Jon Vs Ramsay- I th

  • Hopefully that's the case, as I still don't fully get the the Umbers have seemingly betrayed the Starks.

    Its sounds cool but not game of thrones, it sounds a bit cliche especially the dialogue. I'm almost thinking ramseys allies might betray him from the inside, thats what took down joffrey and we might see the same thing here

  • I'd say his role is pretty much 1) bring one more war to Westeros before the War for the dawn, and 2) be a dilemma for Dany. Both of these can be done in the show without him.

    I only worry about Griff because he seemed destined to play some big role in the future, considering that he is the only official fertile Ta

  • To me it looks like Dorne is going to be the answer to part 1.

    I'd say his role is pretty much 1) bring one more war to Westeros before the War for the dawn, and 2) be a dilemma for Dany. Both of these can be done in the show without him.

  • edited May 2016

    Rumors talk about the vale part and Rickon's death is strongly implied. Did you read them while writing this? :P

    Episode 9 will be the day, mark my words. In fact, this is how I hope it plays out (let me know what you think) Jon Vs Ramsay- I th

  • Oh shit really? I heard rumours about the Vale soldiers but not Rickon, though things don't look good for him.

    Euron posted: »

    Rumors talk about the vale part and Rickon's death is strongly implied. Did you read them while writing this? :P

  • I'm fairly sure he can leave now 'Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death'

    I think he'll 'deal' with Allister and Olly (i.e beheading), maybe hang with Edd, Thormund, Mel and Davos for a bit before making someone else Lord Commander (maybe Edd? Probably not) and moving on to Sansa and Ramsay.

    Now that Jon has returned, I wonder if he is still Lord Commander of the Night's Watch or if he is even part of the Night's Watch anymore. His oath technically ended when he died and he did die before he got resurrected.

  • Walda and the baby being torn apart by the hounds. That was hard to watch

    honestly this shit has hit me hard after the episode. like its really bothering me everytime i think of the episode. when i first saw i was "damn ramsey is fucked up" but now its just fucking me up... i mean i rewatched a lot of scenes and the second viewing it still didnt bother me much but now when i think about it it just fucks me up.

    Great episode! Pros: * It was nice seeing Bran, Meera and Hodor again. The Winterfell vision was cool * The stuff at the Wall was a

  • I loved this episode a lot! Except that the Roose is no longer loose... Gonna miss that guy, even tho I didn't really support him.

    Also, I would love to hear everyones opinion of this! :)

    What role do you think Littlefinger will have this season? if Jon and Sansa are going to fight the Boltons, do you think Littlefinger and the Vale will work together with them, or do you think Sansa now hates him after leaving her in Winterfell with Ramsay, and is going to take revenge on him?

    In the trailer for season 6 you can see him standing in the snow. I'm really curious about his role in season 6. :)

  • Well rumors are rumors afterall; but it is mentionned that Rickon will be killed during the battle of bastards.

    If Rickon shows up next episode.. Well things will go badly for him, I'm afraid.

    Oh shit really? I heard rumours about the Vale soldiers but not Rickon, though things don't look good for him.

  • I'm sad to say I agree with you. The description 'Ramsay gets a gift' doesn't sound good....

    Euron posted: »

    Well rumors are rumors afterall; but it is mentionned that Rickon will be killed during the battle of bastards. If Rickon shows up next episode.. Well things will go badly for him, I'm afraid.

  • Ramsay's plot actually stood out to me more than Jon's resurrection. Can't wait to see where he goes next (next victim-Rickon!)

    Great episode! Pros: * It was nice seeing Bran, Meera and Hodor again. The Winterfell vision was cool * The stuff at the Wall was a

  • do you think Littlefinger and the Vale will work together with them

    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    I loved this episode a lot! Except that the Roose is no longer loose... Gonna miss that guy, even tho I didn't really support him. Also,

  • i kinda hate that cuz i hate him.... and all of that its part of this game.

    I loved this episode a lot! Except that the Roose is no longer loose... Gonna miss that guy, even tho I didn't really support him. Also,

  • anyone else freaking scared for episode ??? i mean motherfucker are dropping like flies right now so can only imagine how many people will die in episode nine. i mean its apparent that episode nine is gonna be a big ass battle and tormund is in the trenches like infantry and also Davos is gonna fight, so im frightened..

  • Walda was part of that terrible family that I hate but she seemed sweet.

    Walda and the baby being torn apart by the hounds. That was hard to watch Yep, that's Ramsay for ya. I felt the same.

  • You mean the Freys?

    KCohere posted: »

    Walda was part of that terrible family that I hate but she seemed sweet.

  • I almost had a heart attack when Jon started breathing.

  • When have we seen the Greatjon be disloyal to the Starks?

    Euron posted: »

    They are loyal in books, not in the series. Also Lord Umber has been put in jail in series aswell I think.

  • Yes, the vile, despicable Freys. I longed to have all of them torn apart by dogs...but Walda and her baby, I didnt want that.

    You mean the Freys?

  • Amen.

    KCohere posted: »

    Yes, the vile, despicable Freys. I longed to have all of them torn apart by dogs...but Walda and her baby, I didnt want that.

  • I hated Sansa being with Littlefinger in the first place. His creepy crush on her is unbearable. If she does anything but knee him in the nuts, Ill lose all respect for her.

    I loved this episode a lot! Except that the Roose is no longer loose... Gonna miss that guy, even tho I didn't really support him. Also,

  • Yara 2016.

  • Ramsay would die laughing his ass off to be honest.

    Episode 9 will be the day, mark my words. In fact, this is how I hope it plays out (let me know what you think) Jon Vs Ramsay- I th

  • The whole entire ending sequence made it obvious Jon was coming back. I mean you literally had them have a dialogue sequence talking about it. Either he was gonna come back or some demon was gonna come in side of him(ground breaking).

  • The greatjon is imprisoned here; little jon is in command now.

    KCohere posted: »

    When have we seen the Greatjon be disloyal to the Starks?

  • Where the hell is Bronn? I just got to say that. I miss that funny son of a gun.

    Also I wonder where little finger is. I'm guessing he will show up within the next 2 episodes. I kind of feel like he is going to have something to do with Rickon

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