Where the hell is Bronn? I just got to say that. I miss that funny son of a gun.
Also I wonder where little finger is. I'm guessing he will show up within the next 2 episodes. I kind of feel like he is going to have something to do with Rickon
Where the hell is Bronn? I just got to say that. I miss that funny son of a gun.
Also I wonder where little finger is. I'm guessing he will show up within the next 2 episodes. I kind of feel like he is going to have something to do with Rickon
Where the hell is Bronn? I just got to say that. I miss that funny son of a gun.
Also I wonder where little finger is. I'm guessing he will show up within the next 2 episodes. I kind of feel like he is going to have something to do with Rickon
Im glad they didnt drag Jon's resurrection out because if its true what I read about seasons 7 and 8 only having 13 episodes between them then there wont be time to drag it out.
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
* Ramsay
* Cersei
* The Mountain
* Melisandre
* Ellaria and the Sand Snakes
* Walder Frey
* The Night's King
Did I miss anyone?
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
* Ramsay
* Cersei
* The Mountain
* Melisandre
* Ellaria and the Sand Snakes
* Walder Frey
* The Night's King
Did I miss anyone?
For me she's not a villain, but I haven't totally forgiven her either. I do appreciate the character depth they've given her besides the "magic temptress", and I do feel a new sympathy for her I hadn't felt in previous seasons.
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
* Ramsay
* Cersei
* The Mountain
* Melisandre
* Ellaria and the Sand Snakes
* Walder Frey
* The Night's King
Did I miss anyone?
I mean he's leaving as in he will probably die this season. Cause once you do what he did, there's no coming back.
I really hope Jon doesn't get to do it though, I want it to be Rickon. I just want Rickon back on the damn show!!!
You know I really feel they missed a huge opportunity during Roose Bolton's death. I mean it would have been a little bit of a callback to when Ramsay killed his men to trick Theon into thinking he was his friend. It'd be awesome if Roose had said something like "You little bastard..." before falling to his death
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
* Ramsay
* Cersei
* The Mountain
* Melisandre
* Ellaria and the Sand Snakes
* Walder Frey
* The Night's King
Did I miss anyone?
Speaking of villains, what do you all think about the theory that Euron is behind the Sons of the Harpy (in the show)? That would explain why they burned the fleet - so Dany would need the Greyjoy fleet. Also it's known that Euron has been sailing around the world so ties to Slaver's Bay wouldn't be impossible.
I kinda like this idea, but I have my doubts. I feel like the slave masters could orchestrate the Harpies without any help from Euron so idk why would they listen to him.
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
* Ramsay
* Cersei
* The Mountain
* Melisandre
* Ellaria and the Sand Snakes
* Walder Frey
* The Night's King
Did I miss anyone?
I dont like that idea, doesnt he want to marry dany? No I think its just the maestors and slaves of meereen throwing a fit. Ive heard other theories daario is behind it but i dont know, still doesnt work for me
Speaking of villains, what do you all think about the theory that Euron is behind the Sons of the Harpy (in the show)? That would explain wh… morey they burned the fleet - so Dany would need the Greyjoy fleet. Also it's known that Euron has been sailing around the world so ties to Slaver's Bay wouldn't be impossible.
I kinda like this idea, but I have my doubts. I feel like the slave masters could orchestrate the Harpies without any help from Euron so idk why would they listen to him.
I know this isn't a theory thread but why are the white walkers and the nights King actually seen as the bad guys? I mean sure they are definitely the antagonists to humans and they do kill without known remorse, but what the hell even are these things and what are their goals?
I'm pretty sure they actually have their own language in the books, and we even saw a small glimpse of their community. What is their goal and why do the humans want to stop them?
They probably just represent the humans innate fear of death and what the afterlife truly means. Which sucks in a way but I can get down with that. Would love to see something represent the beauty that is death. Hopefully that's not the red God/faceless men
I mean the motive for Euron wouldn't be to destroy or kill Dany but to get her out of Meereen and in position where she needs Euron. But yeah, it's definitely an unlikely theory, I'd give it like 10% chance of being true in the show. In the books probably even smaller chance, though it's been a while now since I read the books so I'm not really the best one to analyze the book theories.
And I've heard the Daario theories too, but I just don't get what would his motive be?
I dont like that idea, doesnt he want to marry dany? No I think its just the maestors and slaves of meereen throwing a fit. Ive heard other theories daario is behind it but i dont know, still doesnt work for me
I dont know who else it could be on the show? I mean in the books there are a few characters but here everyone is in dany's inner circle, including dario for that matter. Maybe they wont do it on the show
I mean the motive for Euron wouldn't be to destroy or kill Dany but to get her out of Meereen and in position where she needs Euron. But yea… moreh, it's definitely an unlikely theory, I'd give it like 10% chance of being true in the show. In the books probably even smaller chance, though it's been a while now since I read the books so I'm not really the best one to analyze the book theories.
And I've heard the Daario theories too, but I just don't get what would his motive be?
no way. show is just really simplifying it. i think that the only theory they are doing is the R+L=J theory. all this different theories people have on the books, and damn there is a lot lol, are pretty much gonna be scrapped off.
I dont like that idea, doesnt he want to marry dany? No I think its just the maestors and slaves of meereen throwing a fit. Ive heard other theories daario is behind it but i dont know, still doesnt work for me
Which is fair enough really, some theories go overboard. To be honest I hope they resolve mereen and leave by the end of the season both the books and show got bogged down in this plot for way too long.
no way. show is just really simplifying it. i think that the only theory they are doing is the R+L=J theory. all this different theories people have on the books, and damn there is a lot lol, are pretty much gonna be scrapped off.
I'm pretty sure they are going to reveal "the Harpy" in the show, just because it was hinted at in the first episode when Varys said something like "The attack on the fighting pits was well organized, there is clearly someone leading them." I doubt they'd hang a gun like that if they weren't planning on fireing it. I'm fine with it being Daario if they do it so that it makes sense - right now it just feels weird to me, and the only lead to it seems to be that he is the most likely from Dany's inner circle to betray her.
One chance would be that they introduce a bunch of masters and it's one or several of them, but that feels unnecessary thing to do and it most certainly wouldn't be any kind of twist. Other possibilities I can pull off from the top of my head would be Varys, Kinvara (the new R'hllor priestess we saw in the trailer), and Euron.
I dont know who else it could be on the show? I mean in the books there are a few characters but here everyone is in dany's inner circle, including dario for that matter. Maybe they wont do it on the show
I know this isn't a theory thread but why are the white walkers and the nights King actually seen as the bad guys? I mean sure they are defi… morenitely the antagonists to humans and they do kill without known remorse, but what the hell even are these things and what are their goals?
I'm pretty sure they actually have their own language in the books, and we even saw a small glimpse of their community. What is their goal and why do the humans want to stop them?
They probably just represent the humans innate fear of death and what the afterlife truly means. Which sucks in a way but I can get down with that. Would love to see something represent the beauty that is death. Hopefully that's not the red God/faceless men
I agree that there are lots of theories that don't need to be touched on in the show. However, the case of finding out who leads the Sons of the Harpy will most likely be done this season - they were made kind of a big deal last season after all, and now Varys is on the case. No idea who it is that leads them though.
no way. show is just really simplifying it. i think that the only theory they are doing is the R+L=J theory. all this different theories people have on the books, and damn there is a lot lol, are pretty much gonna be scrapped off.
Varys, since he roots for Aegon in books, would make sense. He has got the logistic, knowledge of the East to do so, or at least giving help to the movement. But in the show, since he acted for Daenerys, except he pulls out Aegon in the series, there's no motivation for him to act that way. At least I don't see one.
I'm pretty sure they are going to reveal "the Harpy" in the show, just because it was hinted at in the first episode when Varys said somethi… moreng like "The attack on the fighting pits was well organized, there is clearly someone leading them." I doubt they'd hang a gun like that if they weren't planning on fireing it. I'm fine with it being Daario if they do it so that it makes sense - right now it just feels weird to me, and the only lead to it seems to be that he is the most likely from Dany's inner circle to betray her.
One chance would be that they introduce a bunch of masters and it's one or several of them, but that feels unnecessary thing to do and it most certainly wouldn't be any kind of twist. Other possibilities I can pull off from the top of my head would be Varys, Kinvara (the new R'hllor priestess we saw in the trailer), and Euron.
In books, in the first chapter, the night's watch ranger Royce draw his sword.. He fights and his sword break down. Then, the Others laughed.
They are sadistic bastards.
On another subject: I saw somewhere the Others are supposed to be the climate change; everyone knows it's coming, but no one acts for it since they're too busy to make war to each others.
I can't remember if it's just a theory or a statement of GRRM's though.
I know this isn't a theory thread but why are the white walkers and the nights King actually seen as the bad guys? I mean sure they are defi… morenitely the antagonists to humans and they do kill without known remorse, but what the hell even are these things and what are their goals?
I'm pretty sure they actually have their own language in the books, and we even saw a small glimpse of their community. What is their goal and why do the humans want to stop them?
They probably just represent the humans innate fear of death and what the afterlife truly means. Which sucks in a way but I can get down with that. Would love to see something represent the beauty that is death. Hopefully that's not the red God/faceless men
I know, I definitely don't believe it's Varys in the show, but since there are so few possibilities I had to list him as one. I mean who could it realistically be in the show, and let's forget motive, and concentrate on who could pull it off if they had the motive? The most obvious one who could organize such a group was Hizdhar, but they made the Harpies kill him, as if to make it absolutely clear it was not him. Aside from him there are few if any named characters left who have both the capability to control such a group and a motive for it. That's really the only reason I even consider characters like Euron and Varys, and I guess Daario.
Varys, since he roots for Aegon in books, would make sense. He has got the logistic, knowledge of the East to do so, or at least giving help… more to the movement. But in the show, since he acted for Daenerys, except he pulls out Aegon in the series, there's no motivation for him to act that way. At least I don't see one.
If it was Daario though.. he had the opportunity to kill her whenever he wants. Maybe it will be just a bunch of masters unnamed.
Euron would make sense since he travelled a lot, as it would allow him to steal the dragons. But as you say, he won't have the possibility to do it by himself.
I know, I definitely don't believe it's Varys in the show, but since there are so few possibilities I had to list him as one. I mean who cou… moreld it realistically be in the show, and let's forget motive, and concentrate on who could pull it off if they had the motive? The most obvious one who could organize such a group was Hizdhar, but they made the Harpies kill him, as if to make it absolutely clear it was not him. Aside from him there are few if any named characters left who have both the capability to control such a group and a motive for it. That's really the only reason I even consider characters like Euron and Varys, and I guess Daario.
I m kinda glad roose died the way he did , he died exactly like Robb stark , in the exact same place, knife through the hearth .For me justice was served .it even made me like a littlle more ramsay , Roose tasted his own medicine.
You know I really feel they missed a huge opportunity during Roose Bolton's death. I mean it would have been a little bit of a callback to … morewhen Ramsay killed his men to trick Theon into thinking he was his friend. It'd be awesome if Roose had said something like "You little bastard..." before falling to his death
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Well, keep in mind we've only seen Euron like 3 or 4 times. I think it's the unpredictability that interests some. We don't know what he's planning and how he will try to subdue Dany and take her dragons
Several fans have arguments in favor of him being one of the best characters in the series?
...Why?
Again what did he do in the b… moreooks, and I mean anything.
His character has potential dont get me wrong, but im honestly seeing his show character follow victorians character path
Speaking of villains, what do you all think about the theory that Euron is behind the Sons of the Harpy (in the show)? That would explain wh… morey they burned the fleet - so Dany would need the Greyjoy fleet. Also it's known that Euron has been sailing around the world so ties to Slaver's Bay wouldn't be impossible.
I kinda like this idea, but I have my doubts. I feel like the slave masters could orchestrate the Harpies without any help from Euron so idk why would they listen to him.
In books, in the first chapter, the night's watch ranger Royce draw his sword.. He fights and his sword break down. Then, the Others laughed… more.
They are sadistic bastards.
On another subject: I saw somewhere the Others are supposed to be the climate change; everyone knows it's coming, but no one acts for it since they're too busy to make war to each others.
I can't remember if it's just a theory or a statement of GRRM's though.
Lol.....Well if you wanted it to be like that then maybe Roose should have said "Mother...." right before he died. Look I didn't say I had a problem with the way it happened I know it was the exact same way and that's not what I wanted changed. I meant it would have been a nice touch if Roose said "You little bastard as he was falling to the ground, thats all.
I m kinda glad roose died the way he did , he died exactly like Robb stark , in the exact same place, knife through the hearth .For me justi… morece was served .it even made me like a littlle more ramsay , Roose tasted his own medicine.
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Im guessing the north betrays ramsey and jon wins. The trailer seemed to show a collection of the northern houses so im guessing a version o… moref the manderly book plot will play out.
I dont see Ramsey lasting the season. I see the freys changing sides again much to everyones frustration.
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Maybe Bronn is still suffering from the "bad pussy" line? Or maybe the poison?
I assume we'll get him back when Jaime goes to Riverlands.
Well Bronn isnt that big a character.
Also Im guessing Littlefinger is teaming up with Olenna doing something, I thin hes done with the north for now
Right now, here's every villain out there on the loose:
Did I miss anyone?
I mean he's leaving as in he will probably die this season. Cause once you do what he did, there's no coming back.
I really hope Jon doesn't get to do it though, I want it to be Rickon. I just want Rickon back on the damn show!!!
Wait thirteen?
What the hell thats like... What?!!!! I was hoping for 16 but 13?!!!
Alright well kill Ramsay next episode because the wall needs to come down by the season finale.
Edit: Euron (I am the Storm) Greyjoy
Sons of the Harpy
And Lord Baelish cause he's always a threat.
Balon Greyjoy is dead, but thanks for the other ones.
I'm guessing they might have meant Euron.
Looks like I dropped the Balon that one..
Hahahahaha... He he. cough
I honestly don't know if I'd consider Melisandre a villain. To me she is, but it seems like everyone else forgave her for what she did lol
For me she's not a villain, but I haven't totally forgiven her either. I do appreciate the character depth they've given her besides the "magic temptress", and I do feel a new sympathy for her I hadn't felt in previous seasons.
lol of that list only 3, 2 really, are on Arya's list. everyone she had on her list is dead lol. well she only got one Trant..
I know right? Lol. Her list is getting smaller and smaller but she has only killed one of them. She has to kill another at some point.
Make Pyke Great Again!
I think Euron to something there
Oh yeah. He ded in Episode 9 (maybe 8).
You know I really feel they missed a huge opportunity during Roose Bolton's death. I mean it would have been a little bit of a callback to when Ramsay killed his men to trick Theon into thinking he was his friend. It'd be awesome if Roose had said something like "You little bastard..." before falling to his death
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Eh I wouldnt consider Cersei or Melisandre villains anymore
Though if we are counting arguably evil characters id add that batshit sparrow and his folllowers and those harpies in meereen
Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh!
Speaking of villains, what do you all think about the theory that Euron is behind the Sons of the Harpy (in the show)? That would explain why they burned the fleet - so Dany would need the Greyjoy fleet. Also it's known that Euron has been sailing around the world so ties to Slaver's Bay wouldn't be impossible.
I kinda like this idea, but I have my doubts. I feel like the slave masters could orchestrate the Harpies without any help from Euron so idk why would they listen to him.
I dont like that idea, doesnt he want to marry dany? No I think its just the maestors and slaves of meereen throwing a fit. Ive heard other theories daario is behind it but i dont know, still doesnt work for me
I know this isn't a theory thread but why are the white walkers and the nights King actually seen as the bad guys? I mean sure they are definitely the antagonists to humans and they do kill without known remorse, but what the hell even are these things and what are their goals?
I'm pretty sure they actually have their own language in the books, and we even saw a small glimpse of their community. What is their goal and why do the humans want to stop them?
They probably just represent the humans innate fear of death and what the afterlife truly means. Which sucks in a way but I can get down with that. Would love to see something represent the beauty that is death. Hopefully that's not the red God/faceless men
I mean the motive for Euron wouldn't be to destroy or kill Dany but to get her out of Meereen and in position where she needs Euron. But yeah, it's definitely an unlikely theory, I'd give it like 10% chance of being true in the show. In the books probably even smaller chance, though it's been a while now since I read the books so I'm not really the best one to analyze the book theories.
And I've heard the Daario theories too, but I just don't get what would his motive be?
I dont know who else it could be on the show? I mean in the books there are a few characters but here everyone is in dany's inner circle, including dario for that matter. Maybe they wont do it on the show
no way. show is just really simplifying it. i think that the only theory they are doing is the R+L=J theory. all this different theories people have on the books, and damn there is a lot lol, are pretty much gonna be scrapped off.
Which is fair enough really, some theories go overboard. To be honest I hope they resolve mereen and leave by the end of the season both the books and show got bogged down in this plot for way too long.
I'm pretty sure they are going to reveal "the Harpy" in the show, just because it was hinted at in the first episode when Varys said something like "The attack on the fighting pits was well organized, there is clearly someone leading them." I doubt they'd hang a gun like that if they weren't planning on fireing it. I'm fine with it being Daario if they do it so that it makes sense - right now it just feels weird to me, and the only lead to it seems to be that he is the most likely from Dany's inner circle to betray her.
One chance would be that they introduce a bunch of masters and it's one or several of them, but that feels unnecessary thing to do and it most certainly wouldn't be any kind of twist. Other possibilities I can pull off from the top of my head would be Varys, Kinvara (the new R'hllor priestess we saw in the trailer), and Euron.
I dont quite know what they want but I get why the humans want to stop this army of dead from killing them.
If I had to guess they want to control and kill everybody. The dead are soldiers/servants for them so why wouldn't they kill everyone?
I agree that there are lots of theories that don't need to be touched on in the show. However, the case of finding out who leads the Sons of the Harpy will most likely be done this season - they were made kind of a big deal last season after all, and now Varys is on the case. No idea who it is that leads them though.
Varys, since he roots for Aegon in books, would make sense. He has got the logistic, knowledge of the East to do so, or at least giving help to the movement. But in the show, since he acted for Daenerys, except he pulls out Aegon in the series, there's no motivation for him to act that way. At least I don't see one.
In books, in the first chapter, the night's watch ranger Royce draw his sword.. He fights and his sword break down. Then, the Others laughed.
They are sadistic bastards.
On another subject: I saw somewhere the Others are supposed to be the climate change; everyone knows it's coming, but no one acts for it since they're too busy to make war to each others.
I can't remember if it's just a theory or a statement of GRRM's though.
I know, I definitely don't believe it's Varys in the show, but since there are so few possibilities I had to list him as one. I mean who could it realistically be in the show, and let's forget motive, and concentrate on who could pull it off if they had the motive? The most obvious one who could organize such a group was Hizdhar, but they made the Harpies kill him, as if to make it absolutely clear it was not him. Aside from him there are few if any named characters left who have both the capability to control such a group and a motive for it. That's really the only reason I even consider characters like Euron and Varys, and I guess Daario.
If it was Daario though.. he had the opportunity to kill her whenever he wants. Maybe it will be just a bunch of masters unnamed.
Euron would make sense since he travelled a lot, as it would allow him to steal the dragons. But as you say, he won't have the possibility to do it by himself.
I m kinda glad roose died the way he did , he died exactly like Robb stark , in the exact same place, knife through the hearth .For me justice was served .it even made me like a littlle more ramsay , Roose tasted his own medicine.
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Well, keep in mind we've only seen Euron like 3 or 4 times. I think it's the unpredictability that interests some. We don't know what he's planning and how he will try to subdue Dany and take her dragons
Tbh, I think it's Daario.
I don't believe GRRM ever said it but the parallels are very strong
Lol.....Well if you wanted it to be like that then maybe Roose should have said "Mother...." right before he died. Look I didn't say I had a problem with the way it happened I know it was the exact same way and that's not what I wanted changed. I meant it would have been a nice touch if Roose said "You little bastard as he was falling to the ground, thats all.
I see the Frey's going down by Sansa