Clem will be evil in S3?
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It's only a theory, ok? Kenny's fault ... maybe Clem is very smart, but she's a little girl and probably learning bad behavior from him.
Lucky for AJ XD he doesn't understand anything, especially curses.
BUT Clem is 11 and ... she admires him very much. i love Luke (and he was my fave) Clem should have to learn from him, Kenny is a disgusting man (my opinion)..
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I generally dislike Kenny for his behavior and personality, but I think that going to the extent of saying that Clementine will turn evil because of being around him is a bit too much. Kenny himself doesn't practice morally-wrong behavior for fun—does anyone? Maybe Clementine will become a bit more hot-headed for being around Kenny, that I agree, and it is plausible too, but certainly not evil.
It would be glorious lol. No not my Clementine, she is too good to be a Carver like person....though...maybe I need to do another season 2 run and see if she could hint at that evil.
It's still wrong to act like that at children.
lol
I have thought about the idea myself (Clementine being a villain). Made a thread about it a while back... it would definitely add a certain spice to the storyline that's for sure. Don't know how much Kenny would really influence it, but in my game Clementine was most definitely cool with him (as was Lee more or less). Hell if you can (determinantly) rob a guy of his meds and gat, then suggest it isn't safe to let him live then you are probably on the right path to villainry.
It's not a bad idea, bad kid, it's genius! 13 years old camp leader of her own!
Don't get me wrong! I believe that Kenny is wrong for acting like he does without trying to improve when he had Sarita with him for over a year and knew that she could help him grow. In a way, he doesn't do anything to overcome overreacting and acting rashly, which in turn makes him responsible for what he does when he is out of his mind.
But we can't really say that he is evil for it. I refrain from using that term, and only do so sparingly, when somebody does something immoral just for the sake of it. I honestly believe that Kenny murdered Carver in cold blood in order to… get revenge, maybe? Torturing Arvo was terrible on his part and I despise him for it to this day, but I wouldn't say that he did it just cause pain in him; he did it to unleash his anger, grief, whatever you want to call it.
Was it wrong? Totally!
Was it immoral? Completely!
Was it evil? I don't think so.
Yeah, maybe you're right.
Well these games do have choice in em. So if you choose to be evil, then go for it. But Kenny is evil? I don't think he's evil, just put in bad situations that dosn't exactly bring out the best in him.
So long as she gets a swivel chair, a badass eyepatch and a white cat to stroke I'll be fine with this turn of events.
Shit, if my choices actually affected the story and my Clem came out evil, I'd forgive all mistakes Telltale has made, AKA The Walking Dead: Season 2. That'd be rad as shit.
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I don't think Clementine will be evil, maybe a little hot tempered like Kenny. And I don't blame Kenny for it because he has been through a lot and lost soo many people he cared about so I can understand why he is that way it's not his fault.
TBH, I do have that feeling. Don't ask me, can't tell anything.
That Clem will be evil?
Yep
I hope so. She was a bit bland in Season 2 and that would really spice up her character.
Oh my god! What if we play as Christa and Clem is the villain? The emotions!
There were 5 different endings to Season 2, so I am going to assume your question pertains to those who chose to go with Kenny.
I don't think Telltale would make Clementine "evil". That would upset their fan base greatly. More than other things have I would think. Not a good direction to take the game in...
Besides, Kenny isn't evil, just suffering from PTSD and in denial.
If Clem isn't a playable character but a side character, she'll act out the choices from season 1-2. meaning, If your Clem sided with kenny, you'll see a more kenny like clem.
But evil? I doubt it.
yeah, but it is not like clem haven't done "evil" before.
Evil is, for the most part, completely subjective.
I for one would like to see Clem emotionally degrade into a social hermit, becoming a much more introspective story rather than one where you have to converse with people about completely off track subjects. Showing a character that once was so lively and morally pure becoming more bitter and amoral person would be a far more horrifying feature than trying to appease to the gore-hungry fan-base.
I mean, image Clem robbing someone who isn't a complete piece of shit... like a certain someone from that episode.
Kenny? No no no. Maybe if you were playing as a bad version of Lee Everett with all those bad choices. That's the only way for Clementine to think that way if Lee ever chose to do those bad choices.
I don't think she will become evil herself, but I think that she might be in some evil community or work for evil community.
I'd welcomed it if Telltale went that direction and gave us the choice, as it'll be able to show the effects of trauma take it's toil on her. Although I'd doubt they'd make her completely evil, but more morally questionable and complex, similar to Kenny- a character who does some awful things, but isn't truly evil.
I don't think Clem will be. But it would be great if there are evil choices again.
I think Kenny is an awesome man. But there is something i agree with you... Clem will be evil because she lost a lot of people. She knows how bad the world is... And also she knows that she can't trust anyone... Thus i think she will be evil..
Only if YOU choose to do so. I believe I haven't, but it's all a matter of perspective. That's what these games are about, morally grey choices.
I don't think so...
but if will be....so, just not like Carver
Leading a herd of walkers that kills off a whole community of people that have nothing to do with the poor treatment of Clem's group. People like the 400 day character that we know personally have good intentions, seems pretty "evil" . I feel that Bonnie could've told Becca and Shel about the situation and took over Carver diplomatically.( we the people with guns don't like you and want you dead)
Also, the reason that the act seems "evil" to me the most is that no one reflected on the lives that were lost because of their escape. When I watched the episode for the first time, I thought Bonnie will fall into depression because of the old friends that she kills in the escape( vince, becca, etc) but she never mentions them.
That's not Clementine's fault, nor does it make her evil to have her escape from some madman and his community that don't give two shits about her or her friends. Remember that they were prisoners/slaves in that place with suppousidly no way out. Even through dialogue from Tavia and some community member, they knew Clem and her group wouldn't last. Thinking about what could have been is pointless, what we have here is Clementine trying to leave from Carver and his people that Cleary do not have the best intersets for her. Plus that herd was coming no matter what, with or without acting out the plan. The group would just use it to their benefit.
There were other ways that they could've escaped:
2.they could've done nothing and waited for the herd to come naturally. And when the herd comes, they would have to work together to fight the herd and would've earn their keep that way and would've resulted in less deaths because everyone would be prepared for the herd and would have a plan.( Something like this happen in the comics with the prisoners)
I don't think Clementine could be evil - her character has been developed to be strong and sometimes cold, but not evil. She recognizes the wrong in Carver and the wrong in leaving a baby to die. And considering she can be played truthfully to her innocent season 1 character (saving Nick and Sarah like she wanted to vote to keep Ben, or not wanting to watch Carver's murder like she didn't want to watch Larry's murder) there is a good chance that even if she could be evil, it would not be the same for everyone.
Kenny also isn't evil - abusive, manipulative, violent, and rash, yes, but not evil. Everything he does is to protect someone he loves in some way. He's also suffering from the deaths of his loved ones that pushes him over the edge too. This isn't a great influence on Clementine, but I doubt she would turn evil for it.
If any ending I think would influence Clem to be "evil" or at least morally questionable would either be Clem with Jane and no family (since she seemed to have twisted Lee's advice and used it to threaten other people) or the alone ending after both Jane and Kenny are dead (she's given no explanation to what happened, and has already murdered her last friend point blank without the weepy goodbye she would normally give him).
As I said, thinking about what could have happened is pointless. These what if scenerios don't really prove that Clementine is evil. Not like she could control everyone's will to leave immediately anyway. Bonnie I guess should feel some remorse, but Clementine or the others, unlikely. First of all, they had their own issues to deal with besides crying over some people they barely knew. Secondly, Carver's community seem like they were of his mindset. Who gives a shit about the slaves/prisoners, get back to work or be punished.
Her character, like that of Lee, is completely up to the player. So quite frankly, especially if she is still the playable character in S3, is frankly irrelevant.