Well the decision is hard for me. Lee and Clem both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Lee chops his own arm off if no one comes with him to vernon's morgue. If Clem tried to do that she would die on the spot.
Clem can climb into small holes and hide in small areas that no adult can even attempt to fit in.
I would choose Lee just because he is taken more seriously. If people had played Season 2, you would know throughout episodes 1-3 she isn't taken as seriously. I was heartbroken when Lee died due to the bite. (You can't bring him back, Lee fans. He is dead for sure.)
He's a character from a book saga, Mistborn. I just read the part when he dies
And, by the way, how does banning work? Or when can I get informed about it? I don't want to get banned and not even know why
I find both of their opinions valid. Kenny cares about the group and lilly cares about keeping the group together. Honestly, I wished they don't fight. They would be stronger together.
I find both of their opinions valid. Kenny cares about the group and lilly cares about keeping the group together. Honestly, I wished they don't fight. They would be stronger together.
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You can read the guidelines here, not break them, and you will be free from being banned. It probably would've been a good idea if you read or somebody told you about them beforehand.
He's a character from a book saga, Mistborn. I just read the part when he dies
And, by the way, how does banning work? Or when can I get informed about it? I don't want to get banned and not even know why
He was kidding about being banned for something as small as that - but to answer your question, people can get banned from posting for either a set duration of time or permanently depending on how badly they break the rules. We give warnings first unless you do something really bad, so don't worry about getting banned for small offenses without any warning.
He's a character from a book saga, Mistborn. I just read the part when he dies
And, by the way, how does banning work? Or when can I get informed about it? I don't want to get banned and not even know why
Sarita was placed there as a prop that didn't work. Or maybe the fact that she virtually couldn't get Kenny to ease up and calm down was intentional. Then, I wouldn't see a single reason for her poorly-constructed character. I mean, they could've expanded her in more than a few ways—how she encountered Kenny; how she feels about the death of Matthew and subsequent death of Walter; having her interact with Rebecca and Reggie; even building her background by having her tell Clementine about her family.
I made it, and thought it was humorous. Especially considering how nothing Sarita was, her death although "tragic" (in the sense of loss) wa… mores hilarious in the way it made such little impact even in making Kenny develop any sense of a character arc.
Even in death, Sarita was a relegated prop... Which I find is gloriously funny.
Clementine.
Lee hasn't got a real personality, he was only the projection of my personality. How could I like somebody who is a part of m… moree? I know it sounds foolish, but that's the way I feel. The tought to save myself is very weird.
By the way, I like my little Clem so much. Like all of us.
I agree to that she was poorly written as was a lot of S2 characters. All telltale needed to do was get the stick out of their ass and allow us by choice to have conversations with the characters like we could in season 1, making the episodes longer would allow this also. We could have learnt so so SO much more about Sarita's life, more about Nick and Luke's friendship, Pete, Carlos and Sarah and Rebecca/Alvin and the whole Carver triangle. They wasted so much on that game
I hate having to agree on this matter.
Sarita was placed there as a prop that didn't work. Or maybe the fact that she virtually couldn't … moreget Kenny to ease up and calm down was intentional. Then, I wouldn't see a single reason for her poorly-constructed character. I mean, they could've expanded her in more than a few ways—how she encountered Kenny; how she feels about the death of Matthew and subsequent death of Walter; having her interact with Rebecca and Reggie; even building her background by having her tell Clementine about her family.
She was there just to die and make Kenny even more crazy
I mean, she's a friking character! Not an objet!
Telltale seems to have forgotten the Eternal Rule for Well Written Characters: If your character doesn't have a goal, then they're not a good character.
I hate having to agree on this matter.
Sarita was placed there as a prop that didn't work. Or maybe the fact that she virtually couldn't … moreget Kenny to ease up and calm down was intentional. Then, I wouldn't see a single reason for her poorly-constructed character. I mean, they could've expanded her in more than a few ways—how she encountered Kenny; how she feels about the death of Matthew and subsequent death of Walter; having her interact with Rebecca and Reggie; even building her background by having her tell Clementine about her family.
I agree to that she was poorly written as was a lot of S2 characters. All telltale needed to do was get the stick out of their ass and allow… more us by choice to have conversations with the characters like we could in season 1, making the episodes longer would allow this also. We could have learnt so so SO much more about Sarita's life, more about Nick and Luke's friendship, Pete, Carlos and Sarah and Rebecca/Alvin and the whole Carver triangle. They wasted so much on that game
Everyone'sClemInTime raises a good point. Her death was there to anger and depress Kenny in order for the plot to advance—but that didn't work, either! Kenny appears to have gotten over her by the end of the episode, and thus, Sarita cannot be considered a plot device.
She could unfortunately be replaced by Sam the dog, who wouldn't speak and wouldn't get any character development. Then, while covered in guts and escaping Howe's Hardware, Sam is devoured, leaving Kenny devastated. And I am willing to bet that people would be more devastated over the death of a dog than the death of Sarita.
She was there just to die and make Kenny even more crazy
I mean, she's a friking character! Not an objet!
Telltale seems to have forg… moreotten the Eternal Rule for Well Written Characters: If your character doesn't have a goal, then they're not a good character.
i don't exactly think that jane set off any alarms that she had killed the baby. in the past, she mentioned how the baby would be hard to take care of and most likely would be a huge liability. when kenny accused her of killing AJ, she even yelled back that she didn't kill him. i believe that kenny's decisions in S1 were a bit more forgivable than S2.
Near the start of episode 4, Jane asks Rebecca "what are you going to do with it" implying that she should get rid of the baby when it's born because as you said, she deemed it would be a liability which i agreed with her on. Even though Kenny wasn't there when she said that, for all we know Rebecca could have told him about it when they were together whilst everyone was at the observation deck and the museum? Also Kenny only trusted one person and that was Clem.
She actually said "i didn't kill him it was an accident Kenny" and naturally he didn't believe that it was an accident prior to what i said earlier with how he never trusted her. Plus by saying "it was an accident" is her lying and making it sound like he was dead. After what happened he says "she didn't want the baby around she made that clear, i thought she'd killed Alvie Clem, and at any point she could have stopped what was happening by saying he was fine. She wanted a fight" and this was true. She wanted a fight to show Clem he can be dangerous which i totally get but what she did was equally wrong and wouldn't have even gone as far as it did if she hadn't caused it in the first place. Both of them were wrong for different reasons.
i personally believe that ben pulling the hatchet from the door was more the writer's fault and less a choice that his character would do. he's a lot smarter than that and i believe that was just implemented to cause some sort of conflict to move the story along.
Your right it was the writers fault, it made him look very dumb. The thing is Ben was portrayed as a helpless, nervous kid (as i think you said right?) who tried his best but made some dumb decisions such as believing the bandits that they had his friend and tricked him into stealing the supplies for them. I mean Lee even says Ben is young and stupid, Kenny calls him a gangly shit for brains and that's before the raid on the motel, Omid in episode has doubts of leaving the boat with only Ben to watch it. The group found it hard to rely on Ben because he came across as naive. Don't get me wrong though, i liked Ben and i liked how he was written. Just that one scene with the hatchet was ridiculous.
i don't exactly think that jane set off any alarms that she had killed the baby. in the past, she mentioned how the baby would be hard to ta… moreke care of and most likely would be a huge liability. when kenny accused her of killing AJ, she even yelled back that she didn't kill him. i believe that kenny's decisions in S1 were a bit more forgivable than S2.
i personally believe that ben pulling the hatchet from the door was more the writer's fault and less a choice that his character would do. he's a lot smarter than that and i believe that was just implemented to cause some sort of conflict to move the story along.
back on the topic of kenny, he's definitely mentally damaged. there's no doubt that he's gone through a lot. his rash decisions end up getting people killed though.
(sorry for the late reply, i didn't notice that you responded to me.)
Clem. Lee would kill me if I didn't save her so...
And she's also a kid... plus my favorite character... plus why would I save a zombie/corpse ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Clementine.
Lee hasn't got a real personality, he was only the projection of my personality. How could I like somebody who is a part of m… moree? I know it sounds foolish, but that's the way I feel. The tought to save myself is very weird.
By the way, I like my little Clem so much. Like all of us.
I am indeed okay with both options as I chose Shawn over Duck. If they were both random people of course "He is a kid" argument would come into play. But after giving me a lift and shelter I felt grateful to him. Needless to say I was also quite mad at Duck as he was the one who drove the truck over Shawn and created this situation in the first place. As a result his age meant nothing to me at that particular moment.
I don't know if I would choose Lee though, It would depend on the situation.
Firstly, I never stated I disliked Carver's death. Just that the choice to stay and watch was only there to fill a very structured checklist… more. There's a difference between the kind of savage harrowingly unflinching violence a film like Irreversible's head crushing scene shows and then a sloppily cobbled together scene that is only shoehorned in to make Kenny look "rad" for exacting that kind of barbaric disfiguring he did... with no impact to the later narrative, pulling away any and all sense of consequence from the scene is what I found gross.
He's won cause he iron-fucked Carver's face to an edible paste and no one looks at him or Clem (if she chooses to stay) the same way. I urge you look up Irreversible, cause the scene is nauseating, yet is less graphic than the schlock of a "badass" scene Kenny had. I don't take one scene, I study the effects and that's what'll determine how I think it was handled.
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By the way I still want to know what it was.
He's a character from a book saga, Mistborn. I just read the part when he dies
And, by the way, how does banning work? Or when can I get informed about it? I don't want to get banned and not even know why
Well the decision is hard for me. Lee and Clem both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Lee chops his own arm off if no one comes with him to vernon's morgue. If Clem tried to do that she would die on the spot.
Clem can climb into small holes and hide in small areas that no adult can even attempt to fit in.
I would choose Lee just because he is taken more seriously. If people had played Season 2, you would know throughout episodes 1-3 she isn't taken as seriously. I was heartbroken when Lee died due to the bite. (You can't bring him back, Lee fans. He is dead for sure.)
You'll get informed if you get banned.
No offense, but I find you user name curious. Do you ship them, or just like both characters? They're practically opposite poles.
I find both of their opinions valid. Kenny cares about the group and lilly cares about keeping the group together. Honestly, I wished they don't fight. They would be stronger together.
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It would have been an interesting plot test if they ended up together. But I'm glad they didn't anyways. Ir would be weird.
I love you.
You can read the guidelines here, not break them, and you will be free from being banned. It probably would've been a good idea if you read or somebody told you about them beforehand.
Oh well.
He was kidding about being banned for something as small as that - but to answer your question, people can get banned from posting for either a set duration of time or permanently depending on how badly they break the rules. We give warnings first unless you do something really bad, so don't worry about getting banned for small offenses without any warning.
I hate having to agree on this matter.
Sarita was placed there as a prop that didn't work. Or maybe the fact that she virtually couldn't get Kenny to ease up and calm down was intentional. Then, I wouldn't see a single reason for her poorly-constructed character. I mean, they could've expanded her in more than a few ways—how she encountered Kenny; how she feels about the death of Matthew and subsequent death of Walter; having her interact with Rebecca and Reggie; even building her background by having her tell Clementine about her family.
Because Duck was ugly and stupid kid.
little Clem is 13 now XD
but he's a kid..
He's ugly but i save him in S 1.
I agree to that she was poorly written as was a lot of S2 characters. All telltale needed to do was get the stick out of their ass and allow us by choice to have conversations with the characters like we could in season 1, making the episodes longer would allow this also. We could have learnt so so SO much more about Sarita's life, more about Nick and Luke's friendship, Pete, Carlos and Sarah and Rebecca/Alvin and the whole Carver triangle. They wasted so much on that game
She was there just to die and make Kenny even more crazy
I mean, she's a friking character! Not an objet!
Telltale seems to have forgotten the Eternal Rule for Well Written Characters: If your character doesn't have a goal, then they're not a good character.
I mentally block Season Two from the canon sometimes.
Everyone'sClemInTime raises a good point. Her death was there to anger and depress Kenny in order for the plot to advance—but that didn't work, either! Kenny appears to have gotten over her by the end of the episode, and thus, Sarita cannot be considered a plot device.
She could unfortunately be replaced by Sam the dog, who wouldn't speak and wouldn't get any character development. Then, while covered in guts and escaping Howe's Hardware, Sam is devoured, leaving Kenny devastated. And I am willing to bet that people would be more devastated over the death of a dog than the death of Sarita.
Clem. Lee would kill me if I didn't save her so...
And she's also a kid... plus my favorite character... plus why would I save a zombie/corpse ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Near the start of episode 4, Jane asks Rebecca "what are you going to do with it" implying that she should get rid of the baby when it's born because as you said, she deemed it would be a liability which i agreed with her on. Even though Kenny wasn't there when she said that, for all we know Rebecca could have told him about it when they were together whilst everyone was at the observation deck and the museum? Also Kenny only trusted one person and that was Clem.
She actually said "i didn't kill him it was an accident Kenny" and naturally he didn't believe that it was an accident prior to what i said earlier with how he never trusted her. Plus by saying "it was an accident" is her lying and making it sound like he was dead. After what happened he says "she didn't want the baby around she made that clear, i thought she'd killed Alvie Clem, and at any point she could have stopped what was happening by saying he was fine. She wanted a fight" and this was true. She wanted a fight to show Clem he can be dangerous which i totally get but what she did was equally wrong and wouldn't have even gone as far as it did if she hadn't caused it in the first place. Both of them were wrong for different reasons.
Your right it was the writers fault, it made him look very dumb. The thing is Ben was portrayed as a helpless, nervous kid (as i think you said right?) who tried his best but made some dumb decisions such as believing the bandits that they had his friend and tricked him into stealing the supplies for them. I mean Lee even says Ben is young and stupid, Kenny calls him a gangly shit for brains and that's before the raid on the motel, Omid in episode has doubts of leaving the boat with only Ben to watch it. The group found it hard to rely on Ben because he came across as naive. Don't get me wrong though, i liked Ben and i liked how he was written. Just that one scene with the hatchet was ridiculous.
You do know what that face means right?
I think Javier is considerably older than Clementine.
I agree.
We see this. she's 13 and he's 20-25
unless she could bring back Lee and Omid? No, she never did anything to redeem herself
Redeem herself? redeem from what? She didn't do anything really bad. Like, very bad.
What did she even do wrong that requires redeeming?
Don't forget if he brings Ben
I am indeed okay with both options as I chose Shawn over Duck. If they were both random people of course "He is a kid" argument would come into play. But after giving me a lift and shelter I felt grateful to him. Needless to say I was also quite mad at Duck as he was the one who drove the truck over Shawn and created this situation in the first place. As a result his age meant nothing to me at that particular moment.
I don't know if I would choose Lee though, It would depend on the situation.
Also please can you exactly point out how he "sneers" Clementine? Where did that come from all of a sudden??