Best Episode by far. Glad I got to bang Selena. I have to say that plot twist was great and it's also cool seeing Harvey plunge deeper into … moremadness. But I feel like him seeing me with Selena made his mental state much worse though and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
Ohhhhhh I loved this friggin episode. One of the best episodes TellTale has done is soooo long. Thank you so much guys. Really I mean that. You have surpassed my expectations with this Batman game and then some. Cheers to you and can't wait for episode 4.
P.S. Bruce and Selina's determinant love scene in this episode? Bruce was channeling his inner Shepard.
Woah, woah, woah? There was a sex scene? You could have actually had sex with Selina? ...Damn, this episode made everyone happy: the Batcat shippers, the Harvey bros, masochists, ect. I can't believe all that joking was actually an accurate prediction...
I can't wait to see all of the alternate choices on YouTube. Alot of them were HUGE game-changers.
Woah, woah, woah? There was a sex scene? You could have actually had sex with Selina? ...Damn, this episode made everyone happy: the Batcat … moreshippers, the Harvey bros, masochists, ect. I can't believe all that joking was actually an accurate prediction...
I can't wait to see all of the alternate choices on YouTube. Alot of them were HUGE game-changers.
Thanks for the link, but I think I might have to pass on watching that specific choice. Me gerts uncomfortable at such things. I do think it's great that they included that choice though.
I loved this episode so much. These series are getting better and better. There's a lot to talk about.
Vicky Vale as Lady Arkham.
Ok, … moreso the first thing I have to say about this is... I CALLED IT xD! Plenty of her actions indicated that she was acting against Bruce:
* Most definitely being the one who recorded Bruce interacting with Carmine during the party with the endorsers. (And this is worse if you told her to keep it off the record.) Note that the camera focuses on her face looking interested in Bruce's response to Carmine.
* Being at the GCPD after Carmine died before any other reporter.
* Her using the data to frame Falcone also makes sense (since it's implied she was a victim of the undoings of Wayne, Hill and Falcone).
* Being The Gotham Gazette the journal that constantly appears trashing the Wayne name. (Especially after she said she would try to keep our name off the Gazette).
* Claiming the unexistense of hard proo… [view original content]
Well, you still get in trouble even if you don't do it because Harvey doesn't believe you.
Oh, you mean... You mean the actual cat got you on trouble. Hm, yeah.
Even though there wasn't a lot of action scenes, I was never bored throughout the whole episode.
Where do I start...
The fighting scene. That was done extremely well. I do believe that missing some buttons have more effect than they did before.
I feel bad for Harvey. His intentions truly are great but that injection is ruining everything for him. No matter what he does I'll always believe that he never meant to cause harm. And I did NOT expect that from Vale. For some reason I think she was also drugged into doing that too. Something about me doesn't want to believe that she did that. Nonetheless I love all the characters and the development is fantastic so far. Also the dialogue has improved.
Bruce... Bruce
I had to! Whoever made his model gave him the perfect size butt.
Anyway, so glad there was a Catwoman and Batman scene.
It really doesn't show much. They just make out then walk into the room and the door closes as the cat is forced to listen in the other ro-- I'm kidding (sort of). But yeah, they walk into the room and then there is a short time skip.
Thanks for the link, but I think I might have to pass on watching that specific choice. Me gerts uncomfortable at such things. I do think it's great that they included that choice though.
I know...don't judge me, forums.
Oh, alright. Thanks! I read your comment really quickly and thought you meant that Selina's cat erm...joined in. Had to do a double take there! I need to lay off of the obscure depths of Youtube...I'll give it a watch in that case.
It really doesn't show much. They just make out then walk into the room and the door closes as the cat is forced to listen in the other ro-- I'm kidding (sort of). But yeah, they walk into the room and then there is a short time skip.
Just wondering though, is there any way that you could avoid confronting Harvey at Seline's apartment? If you don't sleep with her, her cat becomes more tame around you so if you choose to hide from Harvey does the cat still knock the door open?
I was playing it again...but my choices did not have the impact I expected(mainly the Harvey/Selina choice)...mostly some subtle things...Can't you guys at Telltale give the episodes something more concrete in a short term??
And I will just say this one more time...If I don't get to see the Arkhan Asylum full of easter eggs and references I will be very disappointed...
I REALLY like how they handled harvey if he doesn't get scarred. He's still essentially Two face, but he's a different type of him. A more paranoid, mentally unwell man who can't handle himself deteriorating away in front of his eyes, over a side who simply wants revenge over what people have done to him. SO GOOD!!!
I immediately thought Vicki was going to reveal she's actually Talia Al Ghul, but instead she's somehow the leader of the Children of Arkham?
Alright...
I'll admit, I was kind of relieved when it turned out that the leader wasn't the Joker (it seems a lot of Batman stories seem to end that way nowadays for some reason) but I'm really not on board with Vicki suddenly being "Lady Arkham," it feels like it came out of nowhere.
Yeah, and those rocket boots and that force staff that Vicky has for her "Lady Arkham" outfit. Seems a bit out of place.
I can safely say this was my reaction:
Or you can kiss her again, having her on top of you, and then go
"ACTUALLY I CHANGED MY MIND PLEASE DONT TOUCH ME!"
Then you just sit on a couch and feel nice and awkward!
STUNNING
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING
Even though there wasn't a lot of action scenes, I was never bored throughout the whole episode.
Where… more do I start...
The fighting scene. That was done extremely well. I do believe that missing some buttons have more effect than they did before.
I feel bad for Harvey. His intentions truly are great but that injection is ruining everything for him. No matter what he does I'll always believe that he never meant to cause harm. And I did NOT expect that from Vale. For some reason I think she was also drugged into doing that too. Something about me doesn't want to believe that she did that. Nonetheless I love all the characters and the development is fantastic so far. Also the dialogue has improved.
Bruce... Bruce
I had to! Whoever made his model gave him the perfect size butt.
Anyway, so glad there was a Catwoman and Batman scene.
Also...
There will be difference in the dialogue in post coital part if you saved Selina in ep 2 though. That's why I'm glad I saved her. IMO, there will be potential for a relationship in future episodes if you mostly chose pro Selina.
Woah, woah, woah? There was a sex scene? You could have actually had sex with Selina? ...Damn, this episode made everyone happy: the Batcat … moreshippers, the Harvey bros, masochists, ect. I can't believe all that joking was actually an accurate prediction...
I can't wait to see all of the alternate choices on YouTube. Alot of them were HUGE game-changers.
Well, after just finishing the episode, I've gotta get all my thoughts and opinions out here before they die down or I forget. Ready? GO!
Really good episode with extremely difficult choices the whole way through (almost all of them had me stumped, staring at the screen).
LOVE the direction Harvey is going even if he isn't scarred. He knows his personality is out of whack, and can't control himself. Now That is a cool Two-Face iteration.
You can really start seeing the impact your choices are having here, (not that I had a problem with earlier series, it's about the story, not so much the choices) but here, there are A LOT of diversity in how you can handle the different situations. Who to go after? How to comfort Harvey? What to do with Penguin? Should you let Vicki record your conversation? Give in to Selina's seductive powers? Defy the (extremely-stupid-and-corrupt-though-I-can-kind-of-see-why-because-this-is-Gotham-City) Board of Directors? This Episode HAS IT ALL!
The twists and turns are amazing in this series, and are infuriatingly intense to go through. (I was seriously yelling at my TV when Bruce was drugged by Vicki. I get way too invested in these types of games. what have you done to me telltale you amazing people
The characters just have so much depth. You really discover more about them in this episode (in more ways than one.. hehe. BUT, I did not choose that option so haha to you!) Harvey is struggling, and it is so painful to watch. Selina really opens up to Bruce in this episode (in more ways than one. what is wrong with me today!?! I didn't choose that!!) Oswald is really teasing you with his new connections now, which can really get under my skin. [I will have my revenge.]
Now, on to the bad stuff.
Weird continuity errors that made no sense to me in this episode. Firstly, you talk to Lucious about finding out how the Children are tracking the police. He says come to Wayne Tower, Bats responds "on my way there" while it's night. Scene changes, it's 7:00am, bright daylight, Bruce walks into the building and says: "Almost there, Lucious". WHAT? How long does it take him to park the Batmobile? Why did that take him all night?
Next, I didn't like being forced into a corner about being with Selina. Harvey showed up, I exited the room (because I figured if I hid, I'd still get caught and it'd be even worse.) I had no options to really explain myself, and when the fight was over [glad you can miss the Finishing move this time around, btw.] I wanted to leave to set things straight, but no. Harvey said "I'm leaving!".
This is why I have distanced myself from getting intimate with Catwoman so far. So we wouldn't get into this situation. But, alas, we were forced into it. Boohoo. So, yes Telltale, I will not conform to your shipping laws of this series! The Batman will not sleep with such criminals like the Cat!
the technical issues, I will not mention them, because well, they were pretty minor and it's no surprise to anyone I'm sure.
RANT, Fini!
Also, I feel bad for those who chose Catwoman in the last episode. This means Harvey hates Batman AND Bruce now. Ha. Ha. Ha.
EDIT: I just want to reiterate my point about Telltale's "Previously on" segments. One day, hopefully in the near future, I would really like it if the game analyzed your choices before it played it because it is really stutters a lot with any incarnation of it in their series. It should flow easily and not have jumping cuts or long pauses of black screen. That was just the first problem I forgot to mention about the episode. Some textures were not loading correctly (penguin's gun), the voices didn't flow too well in it.. minor-ish complaint.
And, on an unrelated sidenote to my "review" up there, while it was surprising that Vicki was the leader, I wasn't as surprised by that as I was when she drugged Bruce. I'd already narrowed it down a bit throughout the episode.
The Children of Arkham's Leader: Easy recognisable feature: slim body. Now, from the prominent characters we know, who would most likely fit that description. Let's go with process of elimination: We have: Alfred, Harvey, Gordon, Penguin, Montoya, Vicki, Chairwoman, Selina. Because of the body type we can easily deduce it is not: Harvey, Gordon. It isn't Penguin, because why would he be working for himself? it's obviously an acquaintance of his. Not the Chairwoman because she doesn't seem like the fighting type. Not Alfred because he was talking to you at the train station, and I'm sure Bruce would notice if his butler went missing for a while, during all the times the Children struck. Not Selina, because she was with the leader. So, this leaves us with either:
1. New Character (high possibility)
2. Montoya (she could have drugged herself, and she maybe set up the GCPD comm hack)
3. Vicki (because when did she get that interview and we never heard a thing about it before?!)
So, it was pretty well set up, with good proofs to back the reveal up.
Bruce may lost a friend but he also gained an ally/potential relationship. Besides can Harvey help in the combat against Children of Arkham? Nope. Also Harvey is the one who put Bruce in Arkham Asylum in the next ep. So go Catwoman!
Well, after just finishing the episode, I've gotta get all my thoughts and opinions out here before they die down or I forget. Ready? GO!
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* Really good episode with extremely difficult choices the whole way through (almost all of them had me stumped, staring at the screen).
* LOVE the direction Harvey is going even if he isn't scarred. He knows his personality is out of whack, and can't control himself. Now That is a cool Two-Face iteration.
* You can really start seeing the impact your choices are having here, (not that I had a problem with earlier series, it's about the story, not so much the choices) but here, there are A LOT of diversity in how you can handle the different situations. Who to go after? How to comfort Harvey? What to do with Penguin? Should you let Vicki record your conversation? Give in to Selina's seductive powers? Defy the (extremely-stupid-and-corrupt-though-I-can-kind-of-see-why-because-this-is-Gotham-City) Boar… [view original content]
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If only we all had such high criteria for what made a great episode.
Ohhhhhh I loved this friggin episode. One of the best episodes TellTale has done is soooo long. Thank you so much guys. Really I mean that. You have surpassed my expectations with this Batman game and then some. Cheers to you and can't wait for episode 4.
P.S. Bruce and Selina's determinant love scene in this episode? Bruce was channeling his inner Shepard.
Does Two-Face see you in Catwoman's apartment regardless of if you get the QTE?
There are quite a lot
Yes. I'd just clean the window myself lol.
Either that or just leave it dirty.
Woah, woah, woah? There was a sex scene? You could have actually had sex with Selina? ...Damn, this episode made everyone happy: the Batcat shippers, the Harvey bros, masochists, ect. I can't believe all that joking was actually an accurate prediction...
I can't wait to see all of the alternate choices on YouTube. Alot of them were HUGE game-changers.
Yes, if you kiss her back, you actually do have sex with her. As seen in this video:
Yeah, the cat opens the door anyway.
Fuckin' cat, gettin' me in trouble.
I didn't say I'd hate them because of their job.
But I would be suspicious of them.
Thanks for the link, but I think I might have to pass on watching that specific choice. Me gerts uncomfortable at such things. I do think it's great that they included that choice though.
I know...don't judge me, forums.
Well, you still get in trouble even if you don't do it because Harvey doesn't believe you.
Oh, you mean... You mean the actual cat got you on trouble. Hm, yeah.
This series has been consistently good.
Goddamn, your new Avatar is terrifying, I fucking love it.
Yeah, I was talking about the cat that really dosen't like me. ;P
STUNNING
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING
Even though there wasn't a lot of action scenes, I was never bored throughout the whole episode.
Where do I start...
The fighting scene. That was done extremely well. I do believe that missing some buttons have more effect than they did before.
I feel bad for Harvey. His intentions truly are great but that injection is ruining everything for him. No matter what he does I'll always believe that he never meant to cause harm. And I did NOT expect that from Vale. For some reason I think she was also drugged into doing that too. Something about me doesn't want to believe that she did that. Nonetheless I love all the characters and the development is fantastic so far. Also the dialogue has improved.
Bruce... Bruce
I had to! Whoever made his model gave him the perfect size butt.
Anyway, so glad there was a Catwoman and Batman scene.
Also...
It really doesn't show much. They just make out then walk into the room and the door closes as the cat is forced to listen in the other ro-- I'm kidding (sort of). But yeah, they walk into the room and then there is a short time skip.
Oh, alright. Thanks! I read your comment really quickly and thought you meant that Selina's cat erm...joined in. Had to do a double take there! I need to lay off of the obscure depths of Youtube...I'll give it a watch in that case.
Definitely the best episode of the season so far!
Just wondering though, is there any way that you could avoid confronting Harvey at Seline's apartment? If you don't sleep with her, her cat becomes more tame around you so if you choose to hide from Harvey does the cat still knock the door open?
Again some animal using doors to cause issues about romance!
I was playing it again...but my choices did not have the impact I expected(mainly the Harvey/Selina choice)...mostly some subtle things...Can't you guys at Telltale give the episodes something more concrete in a short term??
And I will just say this one more time...If I don't get to see the Arkhan Asylum full of easter eggs and references I will be very disappointed...
I loved it! So awesome! Emotional episode. And that ending!? ARGH!
So this is gonna sound silly but I didn't expect the Selina sex scene to be so... sexual. XD
Really caught me off guard but in a good way
I REALLY like how they handled harvey if he doesn't get scarred. He's still essentially Two face, but he's a different type of him. A more paranoid, mentally unwell man who can't handle himself deteriorating away in front of his eyes, over a side who simply wants revenge over what people have done to him. SO GOOD!!!
Or you can kiss her again, having her on top of you, and then go
"ACTUALLY I CHANGED MY MIND PLEASE DONT TOUCH ME!"
Then you just sit on a couch and feel nice and awkward!
I immediately thought Vicki was going to reveal she's actually Talia Al Ghul, but instead she's somehow the leader of the Children of Arkham?
Alright...
I'll admit, I was kind of relieved when it turned out that the leader wasn't the Joker (it seems a lot of Batman stories seem to end that way nowadays for some reason) but I'm really not on board with Vicki suddenly being "Lady Arkham," it feels like it came out of nowhere.
Did that happen to you?
They gave him perfect size something else if you get what Im diggin :]
Nah I just saw it in a play though
I went all the way ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
When you fuck up your home boy's face, tell him he needs mental help, have sex with his girlfriend, and then get caught with her by him
Besides BatCat loved scene I love this fight scene between Batman and Vale. Very dramatic effect:
Bruce be like:
There will be difference in the dialogue in post coital part if you saved Selina in ep 2 though. That's why I'm glad I saved her. IMO, there will be potential for a relationship in future episodes if you mostly chose pro Selina.
Man, when Vicki Drugged Bruce I was like "Vicki, how could you!!" and to think I wanted her to be a second girlfriend.
Well, after just finishing the episode, I've gotta get all my thoughts and opinions out here before they die down or I forget. Ready? GO!
This Episode HAS IT ALL!
Now, on to the bad stuff.
Next, I didn't like being forced into a corner about being with Selina. Harvey showed up, I exited the room (because I figured if I hid, I'd still get caught and it'd be even worse.) I had no options to really explain myself, and when the fight was over [glad you can miss the Finishing move this time around, btw.] I wanted to leave to set things straight, but no. Harvey said "I'm leaving!".
This is why I have distanced myself from getting intimate with Catwoman so far. So we wouldn't get into this situation. But, alas, we were forced into it. Boohoo. So, yes Telltale, I will not conform to your shipping laws of this series! The Batman will not sleep with such criminals like the Cat!
the technical issues, I will not mention them, because well, they were pretty minor and it's no surprise to anyone I'm sure.
RANT, Fini!
Also, I feel bad for those who chose Catwoman in the last episode. This means Harvey hates Batman AND Bruce now. Ha. Ha. Ha.
EDIT: I just want to reiterate my point about Telltale's "Previously on" segments. One day, hopefully in the near future, I would really like it if the game analyzed your choices before it played it because it is really stutters a lot with any incarnation of it in their series. It should flow easily and not have jumping cuts or long pauses of black screen. That was just the first problem I forgot to mention about the episode. Some textures were not loading correctly (penguin's gun), the voices didn't flow too well in it.. minor-ish complaint.
This series is screaming for one of my Donald Trump Reviews.
Vicki Vale
You can also post that in Dont_Look_Back's new meme thread: https://telltale.com/community/discussion/109442/batman-meme-and-fun-thread
And, on an unrelated sidenote to my "review" up there, while it was surprising that Vicki was the leader, I wasn't as surprised by that as I was when she drugged Bruce. I'd already narrowed it down a bit throughout the episode.
The Children of Arkham's Leader: Easy recognisable feature: slim body. Now, from the prominent characters we know, who would most likely fit that description. Let's go with process of elimination: We have: Alfred, Harvey, Gordon, Penguin, Montoya, Vicki, Chairwoman, Selina. Because of the body type we can easily deduce it is not: Harvey, Gordon. It isn't Penguin, because why would he be working for himself? it's obviously an acquaintance of his. Not the Chairwoman because she doesn't seem like the fighting type. Not Alfred because he was talking to you at the train station, and I'm sure Bruce would notice if his butler went missing for a while, during all the times the Children struck. Not Selina, because she was with the leader. So, this leaves us with either:
1. New Character (high possibility)
2. Montoya (she could have drugged herself, and she maybe set up the GCPD comm hack)
3. Vicki (because when did she get that interview and we never heard a thing about it before?!)
So, it was pretty well set up, with good proofs to back the reveal up.
Bruce may lost a friend but he also gained an ally/potential relationship. Besides can Harvey help in the combat against Children of Arkham? Nope. Also Harvey is the one who put Bruce in Arkham Asylum in the next ep. So go Catwoman!
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