Another thing, not really significant, but I noticed in Episode 3, we get our fight with the female villain and we get our asses handed to us, while the other female saves us (ironically, Erin Yvette does both). It's pretty vague, but hey, it's something?
The whole episode reminded me of Wolf Episode 3 while I played it. I was surprised that the episode didn't end immediately after the fight though.
Batman is getting very strangely close to Wolf's original plot, it already has some similarities where there is a type of mystery, people ar… moree against the main protagonist because who he is, friend fighting him because they think they were sleeping together, now arrested and framed like the original wolf storyline. Interesting Telltale.
Another thing, not really significant, but I noticed in Episode 3, we get our fight with the female villain and we get our asses handed to u… mores, while the other female saves us (ironically, Erin Yvette does both). It's pretty vague, but hey, it's something?
The whole episode reminded me of Wolf Episode 3 while I played it. I was surprised that the episode didn't end immediately after the fight though.
Well potentially sleeping together. You could also be in literally the same situation where nothing happened (and unlike in Wolf Among Us, you had to turn it down when she wanted to as opposed to it not coming up at all with Beauty) only this time there wasn't a brutal crime scene to defuse the situation and the jealous friend leaves while still spiraling instead of beginning to resolve the issue.
The scene where Harvey finds out about Bruce and Selina, reminds me of the time in The Wolf Among Us, where Beast thought Bigby and Beauty was having an affair. Only this time, Bruce and Selina was really sleeping together.
I wonder if Oz and Vicki have any idea Bruce is Batman?
I doubt Penguin would be able to put two-and-two together since he seems so convinced Bruce is just another stuck-up rich guy abusing his wealth like his father that he would never believe Bruce could be Batman, whom he actually respects, though he also seems to have some idea about WayneTech's R&D...
Likewise, if Vicki knew he was Batman, I would think it would come up during the big reveal moment. Though in the route where I gave Vicki the information on Falcone, she was able to figure out Batman had some connection to Bruce Wayne, and is generally suspicious about why Batman hasn't done anything about Wayne.
The only thing going in Bruce's favor right now, when he's being framed as a crazy person and shipped off to Arkham as part of the Children of Arkham's machinations, may be that the CoA are underestimating him because they don't know who he really is.
I wonder what is going to happen with Bruce and Selina. The episode ends very strangely, and it seems like the choice of offering Selina shelter or advise her to flee is not a major one at all. It does not appear in the list of choices in the extra menu so it's probably irrelevant.
Where do we go from there ? Surely this is not the last we have seen of Bruce/Selina, but how is this going to develop ?
I've a few ideas :
-Harvey is not going to let go so easily, he will come after her, possibly issuing a warrant because he will discover her side activities. Selina will therefore not be able to leave Gotham with a warrant on her head, or the bounty the CoA will put on her.
She's stuck in Gotham from where I'm standing and it might be time for her to face her problem head-on instead of running like a coward like she alluded to in the first episode, when she mentions she spent years avoiding consequences well she is not going to be able to avoid both the CoA and Harvey this time.
No, she has to fight, whether or not she will permanently join force with Batman/Bruce is another matter. She will have to stay and fight for the time being I don't see how she could flee.
And of course something is seriously off with her everyone recognizes that. It's like she is in some kind of "debt" she has to repay. She insists umpteen times how she "can't be trusted" or other variations so she's hiding something, something big. Or maybe she has a very low opinion of herself, she said her life was a bit hollow and maybe she's looking for purpose, direction that her interactions with Bruce/Batman is giving her.
Maybe.
A betrayal is also very possible and she's having second thoughts about it hence her acting relatively distant. I would not rule that out.
I really don't think either are aware of Batman's identity but as you highlight Vicki would probably be the least surprised to find out who he really is.
Not that it would be a problem for them as the CoA are after both.
Penguin is also aware of Catwoman's identity as Selina Kyle. Now that could be a big problem for Bruce as the CoA could exploit their relationship. While Bruce spend we don't know how much time in Arkham she could be vulnerable. I doubt Telltale are going to make her flee and then suddenly reappear somewhere down the line, that would be really strange to leave her on the side, even for one episode.
No I think she will definitely play a role in Episode 4 but I can see her being abducted by the CoA but this time no Batman to save her. Come to think of it, why not a torture scene ? To test her resilience to release informations about Batman. If she somehow makes it out of this Batman would have all the proof he needs to know he can definitely rely on her and the player would have unbounded admiration for her. Maybe she is even going to save his ass again.
As I said in another thread it's unfathomable that Bruce does not have a backup plan ready for deployment should something keep him away from his duties.
Judging by the achievements' names Bruce won't be able to go around Gotham as Batman for a little while (2 chapters give or take) so I'm dying to know how Telltale will prevent the Bruce-Batman connection from being obvious to anyone, they have to put someone else behind the mask for a short while.
I wonder if Oz and Vicki have any idea Bruce is Batman?
I doubt Penguin would be able to put two-and-two together since he seems so convi… morenced Bruce is just another stuck-up rich guy abusing his wealth like his father that he would never believe Bruce could be Batman, whom he actually respects, though he also seems to have some idea about WayneTech's R&D...
Likewise, if Vicki knew he was Batman, I would think it would come up during the big reveal moment. Though in the route where I gave Vicki the information on Falcone, she was able to figure out Batman had some connection to Bruce Wayne, and is generally suspicious about why Batman hasn't done anything about Wayne.
The only thing going in Bruce's favor right now, when he's being framed as a crazy person and shipped off to Arkham as part of the Children of Arkham's machinations, may be that the CoA are underestimating him because they don't know who he really is.
You are not. There are scenes which do not appear at all in Episode 3. Like Selina and Bruce in what appears to be the manor. Maybe this was an old scene reworked since then, I don't know. The line "Do you think Bruce Wayne is worth protecting" is also absent no matter which path you go down with Vicki Vale.
Same thing happened with the Episode 2 preview which featured Batman/Catwoman and that specific scene is nowhere to be found in the Episode 2.
Likewise it's very likely the Episode 4 teaser's scenes will not appear or will be drastically altered in Episode 4.
Harvey storming the manor for example, I don't see how this is even possible. He knows Bruce is sent to arkham so what would be this about ? Alfred has nothing to do with this, maybe this could have do to with him going after Selina.
That is a bit more on the plausible side I guess.
The episode previews are just there to give a general overwiev of the next episode or even a few in TFTB's case.
There's rarely ever spec… moreific scenes, but the general overview, like Vicki questioning Batman about Bruce or Selina and Bruce's romance is still there.
I wonder if Oz and Vicki have any idea Bruce is Batman?
I doubt Penguin would be able to put two-and-two together since he seems so convi… morenced Bruce is just another stuck-up rich guy abusing his wealth like his father that he would never believe Bruce could be Batman, whom he actually respects, though he also seems to have some idea about WayneTech's R&D...
Likewise, if Vicki knew he was Batman, I would think it would come up during the big reveal moment. Though in the route where I gave Vicki the information on Falcone, she was able to figure out Batman had some connection to Bruce Wayne, and is generally suspicious about why Batman hasn't done anything about Wayne.
The only thing going in Bruce's favor right now, when he's being framed as a crazy person and shipped off to Arkham as part of the Children of Arkham's machinations, may be that the CoA are underestimating him because they don't know who he really is.
I feel like the most likely thing to happen is Selina is the one who gets us out of Arkham, and then they go back to Wayne Manor. That's probably why that choice isnt super major because in the end she will probably end up staying with Bruce at Wayne Manor no matter what, just that they'd fugitives. My best guess is that choice will just lead to Selina mentioning it when she arrives and sees the place.
I wonder what is going to happen with Bruce and Selina. The episode ends very strangely, and it seems like the choice of offering Selina she… morelter or advise her to flee is not a major one at all. It does not appear in the list of choices in the extra menu so it's probably irrelevant.
Where do we go from there ? Surely this is not the last we have seen of Bruce/Selina, but how is this going to develop ?
I've a few ideas :
-Harvey is not going to let go so easily, he will come after her, possibly issuing a warrant because he will discover her side activities. Selina will therefore not be able to leave Gotham with a warrant on her head, or the bounty the CoA will put on her.
She's stuck in Gotham from where I'm standing and it might be time for her to face her problem head-on instead of running like a coward like she alluded to in the first episode, when she mentions she spent years avoiding consequences well she is not going to be able to … [view original content]
I really like your idea. But the official synopsis hints at "new alliances" which makes me think Bruce will get help from someone within Arkham.
Still, I really appreciate your input regarding the significance of the choice with Selina, whether to advise her to get out of the city or to offer the manor if she wishes. I thought this would be a major plot point but it does not seem like it. I was really puzzled by how Telltale presented this choice.
I feel like the most likely thing to happen is Selina is the one who gets us out of Arkham, and then they go back to Wayne Manor. That's pro… morebably why that choice isnt super major because in the end she will probably end up staying with Bruce at Wayne Manor no matter what, just that they'd fugitives. My best guess is that choice will just lead to Selina mentioning it when she arrives and sees the place.
Actually it doesnt say "new" so it doesnt necessarily mean a new character is who we are forming an alliance with. It could be something like "forming an alliance with Gordon." Im mostly saying that because I feel like its kinda late for episode 4 to introduce a major character that we form an alliance with, so much that they are the reason Bruce gets out.
I really like your idea. But the official synopsis hints at "new alliances" which makes me think Bruce will get help from someone within Ark… moreham.
Still, I really appreciate your input regarding the significance of the choice with Selina, whether to advise her to get out of the city or to offer the manor if she wishes. I thought this would be a major plot point but it does not seem like it. I was really puzzled by how Telltale presented this choice.
I stand corrected. Indeed there is no "new" mentions. Good point on episode 4 being a bit late for a huge character reveal.
So yeah your idea of Catwoman getting Bruce out of Arkham is very possible and grounded in reality, but how could she do that ? And would that help Bruce at all if he becomes a target for the cops ?
I think Batman allies must first establish Bruce's innocence then he may be freed from his mental prison.
Actually it doesnt say "new" so it doesnt necessarily mean a new character is who we are forming an alliance with. It could be something lik… moree "forming an alliance with Gordon." Im mostly saying that because I feel like its kinda late for episode 4 to introduce a major character that we form an alliance with, so much that they are the reason Bruce gets out.
I mean, Selina did say she likes to break into places just to prove she can, and now she has some sort of intensive to get in. However, I kinda hope something a little different happens if you dont have the best relationship with her.
For the rest I guess maybe Bruce could make up some sort of story at the end of the game that Batman had Catwoman come get him out of Arkham because he knew he was innocent and had to save him or something. Iunno, but Im guessing that for most of ep 4 and ep 5 Bruce is going to be a fugitive.
I stand corrected. Indeed there is no "new" mentions. Good point on episode 4 being a bit late for a huge character reveal.
So yeah your … moreidea of Catwoman getting Bruce out of Arkham is very possible and grounded in reality, but how could she do that ? And would that help Bruce at all if he becomes a target for the cops ?
I think Batman allies must first establish Bruce's innocence then he may be freed from his mental prison.
The most reasonable outcome is Bruce's innocence being proven, if you look at the Steam achievements' name Bruce only stays in Arkham for about two chapters, then "home sweet home", implies he's back at the manor with or without Selina.
The most interesting aspect of Ep.4 is going to be how does Batman continue to exist without Bruce Wayne even if it's for a short amount of time. I mean surely while Bruce is among the crazies someone will have to fill the spot behind the cowl.
I mean, Selina did say she likes to break into places just to prove she can, and now she has some sort of intensive to get in. However, I ki… morenda hope something a little different happens if you dont have the best relationship with her.
For the rest I guess maybe Bruce could make up some sort of story at the end of the game that Batman had Catwoman come get him out of Arkham because he knew he was innocent and had to save him or something. Iunno, but Im guessing that for most of ep 4 and ep 5 Bruce is going to be a fugitive.
The most reasonable outcome is Bruce's innocence being proven, if you look at the Steam achievements' name Bruce only stays in Arkham for ab… moreout two chapters, then "home sweet home", implies he's back at the manor with or without Selina.
The most interesting aspect of Ep.4 is going to be how does Batman continue to exist without Bruce Wayne even if it's for a short amount of time. I mean surely while Bruce is among the crazies someone will have to fill the spot behind the cowl.
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Another thing, not really significant, but I noticed in Episode 3, we get our fight with the female villain and we get our asses handed to us, while the other female saves us (ironically, Erin Yvette does both). It's pretty vague, but hey, it's something?
The whole episode reminded me of Wolf Episode 3 while I played it. I was surprised that the episode didn't end immediately after the fight though.
We also get to see how swoll our protagonist is!
Well potentially sleeping together. You could also be in literally the same situation where nothing happened (and unlike in Wolf Among Us, you had to turn it down when she wanted to as opposed to it not coming up at all with Beauty) only this time there wasn't a brutal crime scene to defuse the situation and the jealous friend leaves while still spiraling instead of beginning to resolve the issue.
I wonder if Oz and Vicki have any idea Bruce is Batman?
I doubt Penguin would be able to put two-and-two together since he seems so convinced Bruce is just another stuck-up rich guy abusing his wealth like his father that he would never believe Bruce could be Batman, whom he actually respects, though he also seems to have some idea about WayneTech's R&D...
Likewise, if Vicki knew he was Batman, I would think it would come up during the big reveal moment. Though in the route where I gave Vicki the information on Falcone, she was able to figure out Batman had some connection to Bruce Wayne, and is generally suspicious about why Batman hasn't done anything about Wayne.
The only thing going in Bruce's favor right now, when he's being framed as a crazy person and shipped off to Arkham as part of the Children of Arkham's machinations, may be that the CoA are underestimating him because they don't know who he really is.
I wonder what is going to happen with Bruce and Selina. The episode ends very strangely, and it seems like the choice of offering Selina shelter or advise her to flee is not a major one at all. It does not appear in the list of choices in the extra menu so it's probably irrelevant.
Where do we go from there ? Surely this is not the last we have seen of Bruce/Selina, but how is this going to develop ?
I've a few ideas :
-Harvey is not going to let go so easily, he will come after her, possibly issuing a warrant because he will discover her side activities. Selina will therefore not be able to leave Gotham with a warrant on her head, or the bounty the CoA will put on her.
She's stuck in Gotham from where I'm standing and it might be time for her to face her problem head-on instead of running like a coward like she alluded to in the first episode, when she mentions she spent years avoiding consequences well she is not going to be able to avoid both the CoA and Harvey this time.
No, she has to fight, whether or not she will permanently join force with Batman/Bruce is another matter. She will have to stay and fight for the time being I don't see how she could flee.
And of course something is seriously off with her everyone recognizes that. It's like she is in some kind of "debt" she has to repay. She insists umpteen times how she "can't be trusted" or other variations so she's hiding something, something big. Or maybe she has a very low opinion of herself, she said her life was a bit hollow and maybe she's looking for purpose, direction that her interactions with Bruce/Batman is giving her.
Maybe.
A betrayal is also very possible and she's having second thoughts about it hence her acting relatively distant. I would not rule that out.
Am I the only one who found episode 3 really different from the preview at the end of episode 2?
I really don't think either are aware of Batman's identity but as you highlight Vicki would probably be the least surprised to find out who he really is.
Not that it would be a problem for them as the CoA are after both.
Penguin is also aware of Catwoman's identity as Selina Kyle. Now that could be a big problem for Bruce as the CoA could exploit their relationship. While Bruce spend we don't know how much time in Arkham she could be vulnerable. I doubt Telltale are going to make her flee and then suddenly reappear somewhere down the line, that would be really strange to leave her on the side, even for one episode.
No I think she will definitely play a role in Episode 4 but I can see her being abducted by the CoA but this time no Batman to save her. Come to think of it, why not a torture scene ? To test her resilience to release informations about Batman. If she somehow makes it out of this Batman would have all the proof he needs to know he can definitely rely on her and the player would have unbounded admiration for her. Maybe she is even going to save his ass again.
As I said in another thread it's unfathomable that Bruce does not have a backup plan ready for deployment should something keep him away from his duties.
Judging by the achievements' names Bruce won't be able to go around Gotham as Batman for a little while (2 chapters give or take) so I'm dying to know how Telltale will prevent the Bruce-Batman connection from being obvious to anyone, they have to put someone else behind the mask for a short while.
You are not. There are scenes which do not appear at all in Episode 3. Like Selina and Bruce in what appears to be the manor. Maybe this was an old scene reworked since then, I don't know. The line "Do you think Bruce Wayne is worth protecting" is also absent no matter which path you go down with Vicki Vale.
Same thing happened with the Episode 2 preview which featured Batman/Catwoman and that specific scene is nowhere to be found in the Episode 2.
Likewise it's very likely the Episode 4 teaser's scenes will not appear or will be drastically altered in Episode 4.
Harvey storming the manor for example, I don't see how this is even possible. He knows Bruce is sent to arkham so what would be this about ? Alfred has nothing to do with this, maybe this could have do to with him going after Selina.
That is a bit more on the plausible side I guess.
The episode previews are just there to give a general overwiev of the next episode or even a few in TFTB's case.
There's rarely ever specific scenes, but the general overview, like Vicki questioning Batman about Bruce or Selina and Bruce's romance is still there.
Oh, thanks for the clarification. I naively thought this was a "preview" in the truest sense.
No big deal as you said the "vibe" is there.
"Welcome to Telltale, can I take your order?"
Well, that's good. I just wanted to make sure.
Depending how long Bruce is in Arkham I feel like people should figure it out instead of pulling another Dark Knight Rises.
GEE WIZ! Batman went away when Bruce Wayne got locked up? What a coincidence!
I feel like the most likely thing to happen is Selina is the one who gets us out of Arkham, and then they go back to Wayne Manor. That's probably why that choice isnt super major because in the end she will probably end up staying with Bruce at Wayne Manor no matter what, just that they'd fugitives. My best guess is that choice will just lead to Selina mentioning it when she arrives and sees the place.
I really like your idea. But the official synopsis hints at "new alliances" which makes me think Bruce will get help from someone within Arkham.
Still, I really appreciate your input regarding the significance of the choice with Selina, whether to advise her to get out of the city or to offer the manor if she wishes. I thought this would be a major plot point but it does not seem like it. I was really puzzled by how Telltale presented this choice.
Actually it doesnt say "new" so it doesnt necessarily mean a new character is who we are forming an alliance with. It could be something like "forming an alliance with Gordon." Im mostly saying that because I feel like its kinda late for episode 4 to introduce a major character that we form an alliance with, so much that they are the reason Bruce gets out.
I stand corrected. Indeed there is no "new" mentions. Good point on episode 4 being a bit late for a huge character reveal.
So yeah your idea of Catwoman getting Bruce out of Arkham is very possible and grounded in reality, but how could she do that ? And would that help Bruce at all if he becomes a target for the cops ?
I think Batman allies must first establish Bruce's innocence then he may be freed from his mental prison.
I mean, Selina did say she likes to break into places just to prove she can, and now she has some sort of intensive to get in. However, I kinda hope something a little different happens if you dont have the best relationship with her.
For the rest I guess maybe Bruce could make up some sort of story at the end of the game that Batman had Catwoman come get him out of Arkham because he knew he was innocent and had to save him or something. Iunno, but Im guessing that for most of ep 4 and ep 5 Bruce is going to be a fugitive.
The most reasonable outcome is Bruce's innocence being proven, if you look at the Steam achievements' name Bruce only stays in Arkham for about two chapters, then "home sweet home", implies he's back at the manor with or without Selina.
The most interesting aspect of Ep.4 is going to be how does Batman continue to exist without Bruce Wayne even if it's for a short amount of time. I mean surely while Bruce is among the crazies someone will have to fill the spot behind the cowl.
Frank is going to become Robin and bring justice to those dirty criminals!
I almost forgot about him, how could I ? The guy is surprisingly likeable.....If you don't interupt his pool game.