Kirkman likely won't want the TellTale series to jump ahead of the comics in the timeline

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  • I'm not gonna say anything about that because I know you to be one of the nicest people on here. As someone who's been hacked before, I genuinely think you got hacked. @579801

    Stop with your logical jibber jabber. Logic = boring peaceful posts.

  • Nah man don't you get it? If this guy on the internet doesn't like it clearly the series shouldn't continue.

    Oh shut up Dan...if you don't like it...then go cry somewhere else.

  • I believe she was hacked, too.

    I'm not gonna say anything about that because I know you to be one of the nicest people on here. As someone who's been hacked before, I genuinely think you got hacked. @579801

  • You coincide with the prick hacker?

    lupinb0y posted: »

    Nah man don't you get it? If this guy on the internet doesn't like it clearly the series shouldn't continue.

  • edited January 2017

    Are you a fork or a spoon?

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Times like these I wish Telltale could do their own thing in terms of the timeline, and put raptors in TWDG.

  • How...wait what? I was paying you a compliment by calling your argument logical and now you say I am hacked?

    I'm not gonna say anything about that because I know you to be one of the nicest people on here. As someone who's been hacked before, I genuinely think you got hacked. @579801

  • Stop with your logical jibber jabber. Logic = boring peaceful posts.

    ...I thought that was an insult?

    How...wait what? I was paying you a compliment by calling your argument logical and now you say I am hacked?

  • edited January 2017

    It was backhanded sarcasm....it is me...not been hacked. Basically it means that people just love the thrill of arguing and your logical and insightful post sorta nips them in the bud lol

    Stop with your logical jibber jabber. Logic = boring peaceful posts. ...I thought that was an insult?

  • edited January 2017

    Whoops. Well thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mods delete this pls.

    It was backhanded sarcasm....it is me...not been hacked. Basically it means that people just love the thrill of arguing and your logical and insightful post sorta nips them in the bud lol

  • I haven't read the comics, but I'm betting they had a time skip because the actors on the show have all aged 7 years in 2 years (especially obvious in Carl), and the show (loosely) follows the comic's story-line.

    As for the game, either they want to keep the timelines close for crossover potential, or they want Clementine's story this season to feel different from "child in the apocalypse", possibly both.

    I'm not saying I agree with the decisions for time-skips (I typically have a similar mindset to you), just that it does have understandable reasons behind it (well, potentially).

    Ladariel posted: »

    All of this would be great for telltale to prevent any more video game time jumps. There has been enough time skips already for both the game and comic I believe. Time skips almost feel like some sort of lazy fast forward for the writers.

  • Why would you say that?

    Oh shut up Dan...if you don't like it...then go cry somewhere else.

  • She wasn't hacked.

    That is awkward.

  • edited January 2017

    Well, not speaking for Kennyshouldvediedins1 (that's a big name woa), but maybe because Dan's comment was pretty uncalled for and out of place? Considering this is a thread about the game's timeline and not a thread about how terrible season 3 is. I mean it's not like we don't already have 300 of those, pffffft.

    It's becoming extremely annoying seeing the negativism everywhere in the forums... Especially considering that it is being the same thing coming from the same people, over and over again. It's like it has become a chant here in this sub-forums.

    And I'm not saying that Dan shouldn't have commented his opinion, I'm just saying that Kennyshouldvediedins1 also has the right to express her annoyance at his opinions as well.

    Why would you say that?

  • I firmly believe that, at all times—no matter who they are and what they have done to annoy or anger or upset us—we need to treat everyone and their emotions with tact.

    It is true that this isn't the place to manifest our dislike of this season, but there are more careful ways of saying it.

    Well, not speaking for Kennyshouldvediedins1 (that's a big name woa), but maybe because Dan's comment was pretty uncalled for and out of pla

  • What do you mean? What hacker?

    You coincide with the prick hacker?

  • I forget that sarcasm doesn't translate well in text.

    Either way it should have been obvious that I wasn't being serious :P

  • Well I can't tell if your post was sarcastic but if not then you should know by now that I won't shut up about anything pretty much but thanks for that very mature post of yours kennyshoulad (sarcasm).

    The OP commented saying "if there was a season 4" which is why i posted what i did in the first place, something i am entitled to.

    Oh shut up Dan...if you don't like it...then go cry somewhere else.

  • Well, Season 2 was during the time skip, so...

    They state...it is right after aow...that means it is early in the time skip...Jesus has not changed his wardrobe or cut his hair.

  • Considering this is a thread about the game's timeline and not a thread about how terrible season 3 is. I mean it's not like we don't already have 300 of those, pffffft.

    The OP said "if there was a season 4", that was enough for me to want to post how i hope there isn't one, then i get told to shut up by someone who doesn't accept others opinions

    Well, not speaking for Kennyshouldvediedins1 (that's a big name woa), but maybe because Dan's comment was pretty uncalled for and out of pla

  • Is this a trick question? o.O

    Are you a fork or a spoon?

  • edited January 2017

    This is the timeline I created a few weeks before "A New Frontier".

    It doesn't include the comics, but I have Clem's birthday between Day 1560 and Day 1570. There's also a comment on the thread explaining how Clem shouldn't be 13 yet in regards to the comics. This turned out to probably be a mistake on the wiki's part, but now that the game is out, there's a new problem: How can it be summertime and four years in if Clementine is 13? Let me elaborate (also note that Telltale seems to be semi-aware of this as well, as you'll say later in the post).

    If you look at the vegetation in "A New Day", you can see that it's clearly summertime. Clementine is 8 back then.

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    This coincides with the Crawford tapes putting the outbreak on July 20, but let's leave exact dates out of this. Let's focus on nothing but the season, which in this case is either late spring or summer. It should be noted that Diana's "springbreak" comment seems to have been retconned after Episode 1 already, as 3 months later, it's clearly fall.

    Which brings us to exactly that. "Starved For Help" takes place pretty much three months in ("A New Day" was only a few days at the very beginning). This is how the vegetation looks like now.

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    This means it's likely in October (though my claim of October 21 might be too generous, it's probably a bit earlier), which again coincides well enough with both the Crawford tapes and the assessment that it was summer three months before this.

    Now on to "Long Road Ahead". There are now completely bare trees, meaning it's likely late October or early November. Note that this is a few days after Clementine's 9th birthday!

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    So it should be fairly obvious that Clementine's birthday is in October/November. The exact date doesn't really matter. What matters is that "A New Frontier" used to claim that it takes place four years in. Now the announcement page from late November says "Years after society was ripped apart by undead hands [...]" when it used to say "Four years after society was ripped apart by undead hands [...]". This shows to me that Telltale is at least aware of the issue they created here, which is good. Everyone makes mistakes.

    However, since it's clearly summer in "A New Frontier" (vegetation and crickets), and Clementine is 13, I'm going to go with this: "A New Frontier" actually takes place five years in.

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    That would mean that Clementine is 13 and turning 14 in a few months (as opposed to "should be 12 and only turning 13 in a few months").

    Problems with this created in "A New Frontier" itself off the top of my head:

    • Kate's comment about people hoarding all kinds of shit "these past four years".
    • Mariana's and Gabe's age (though this can be fixed easily as their age before the outbreak is never revealed).
    • Jesus being there.

    I hope Telltale fixes this in the upcoming episodes by just acting as if it's five years in instead of four years. As I remember it, the comics are much more ambigious as to when they exactly take place and how far they're in, so I hope one could bend it so that they're further in than the game.

    Megaodg33 posted: »

    And you are absolutely correct. Let me do the math: This is the timeline we have and it doesn't make that much sense to me, especially ta

  • edited January 2017

    No season 2 was during AOW. Read the comics Mega so you get an idea of what the Walking Dead timeline is. Don't take random TellTale quotes as gospel when many of the TellTale programmers likely aren't nearly as familiar with the comics as the people who read the comic religiously are.

    Infact there is even a video out there somewhere where Kirkman states that season 2 takes place around the same time as AOW

    They state...it is right after aow...that means it is early in the time skip...Jesus has not changed his wardrobe or cut his hair.

  • edited January 2017

    I do see what you're saying, but it is probably early/mid spring in the game. If it was summertime, in Virginia, Clem would not need to wear a jacket at night (or at all). It's possible it's late April or very early May. It makes more sense to just say it's April, as that is the most likely spring month (aside from March) she would need a jacket at night and when there is vegetation, in Virginia.

    This is the timeline I created a few weeks before "A New Frontier". It doesn't include the comics, but I have Clem's birthday between Day

  • I don't really find a problem with Telltale not doing a time gap with the next season, maybe a few months, but it would be nice to continue off not long after.

  • Clem is just a cold gal.

    Megaodg33 posted: »

    I do see what you're saying, but it is probably early/mid spring in the game. If it was summertime, in Virginia, Clem would not need to wear

  • That's a very good point, actually. It doesn't change the fact, however, that the game should take place almost five years in. But it's a good point nonetheless, and also kind of fixes the problem of Telltale (and Kate) claiming it's four years. It would make more sense for Kate to say "these past four years" if it hadn't been five years yet.

    Megaodg33 posted: »

    I do see what you're saying, but it is probably early/mid spring in the game. If it was summertime, in Virginia, Clem would not need to wear

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    So, what's next for you? Since this series' time in the limelight is pretty much over for you, where you gonna go next?

    I'm genuinely curious

    dan290786 posted: »

    I honestly hope there won't be a season 4. This game series is sadly dead to me

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    I don't even think Kirkman himself knows how long the time skip was, if his recent statements from #162's letter hacks suggest anything.

    Probably explains why Jesus' appearance in S3 is his AOW appearance-- not even Telltale understands the time skip, and Kirkman's probably been just as obtuse about it with them as everyone else that's asked about it.

  • The two year timeskip has never been official. It wasn't even Kirkman who said it was two years. It was the editor who doesn't write the story. Basically we can say that the timeskip was somewhere in the vicinity of two to three years. Not less than two years and not more than three years.

    Deltino posted: »

    I don't even think Kirkman himself knows how long the time skip was, if his recent statements from #162's letter hacks suggest anything.

  • I do read the comics! All Out War is 623 days into the apocalypse and S2 is over 800 days into the apocalypse.

    sony12 posted: »

    No season 2 was during AOW. Read the comics Mega so you get an idea of what the Walking Dead timeline is. Don't take random TellTale quotes

  • edited January 2017

    Good that you read the comic. However one of the last things you want to do is put much stock in the wiki. That thing is so horribly inconsistent that one page will say one thing and another page will say something entirely different. Figure the timeline out by paying attention to details of the graphic novel. Not by what that attrocious wiki site says where Sophia starts out the series being a year older than Carl but now she is a year younger.

    Megaodg33 posted: »

    I do read the comics! All Out War is 623 days into the apocalypse and S2 is over 800 days into the apocalypse.

  • I was more excited for TLOU2 than S3 before it's release and after the let down i am looking forward to it's release even more. So i think i'll be sticking with ND games from now because every single game they have made has always been fantastic and even if it is years between release dates, I know it's worth the wait.

    As long as people here continue to talk about Season 1 and probably 2, i'll still post here. But that's that really, sorry.

    Deltino posted: »

    So, what's next for you? Since this series' time in the limelight is pretty much over for you, where you gonna go next? I'm genuinely curious

  • It is a shame, i really loved Season 1 and even 2 had it's moments certainly storywise at least but every TT game i played after S1 has really been poor and not as much effort has been put into them as Season 1 has. I just do not enjoy them anywhere. They fixed what was never broke and it was a mistake IMO.

    Deltino posted: »

    So, what's next for you? Since this series' time in the limelight is pretty much over for you, where you gonna go next? I'm genuinely curious

  • Seeing as Clem and most of the characters in the game seasons are not in the comics or the show, then yes, I believe that the game should be its own.

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    I'll give ND credit on one thing; they're one the few developers-- AAA devs at that-- that actually care, that still put a lot of heart and passion into what they do. And that's something the game industry is lacking in. If anything, I think that's the reason why their games are so successful. It's not necessarily because they're simply good, but because they quite clearly poured a lot heart and soul into making them. If you ask me, that's what ultimately makes a game great-- the passion that drives its creation.

    I can't lie, the only game of theirs I've played is TLoU. And I'm not too hyped for TLoU 2, simply because I don't have a PS4. And honestly, I'm not too keen on buying an entire console just because of one or two titles I really want. It'd just be an oversized paperweight for me in that case. I'll probably just watch it online when it comes out, unless I find a good reason to buy a PS4 beforehand

    I do want to try the Uncharted series someday, though. Maybe I'll get the first three on PS3 or something.

    For me, I don't really have anything I'm looking forward to game-wise. Every developer and franchise I've liked has seemingly fizzled out, which is partly why I've gotten a bit defensive over TWD in particular-- it's a bit disheartening to see each game series I've grown fond of end up taking a nosedive, time and time again. Just once, I'd like to get truly attached to a game series that doesn't end up taking a downwards spiral. I'd love to feel as invested in a studio like ND, or a game like TLoU, but I just can't-- Telltale's TWD holds a very special place in my heart for me personally, and seeing it seemingly start falling from grace hits me hard, because I can't think of any other series that has captivated me the same way it has. I mean sure, I have a lot of games that I think are fantastic through and through, but they're just not at the same level for me.

    I guess I'm biding my time, waiting for that one series that will eventually hook me and pull me in the same way. I know it'll come along sooner or later.

    dan290786 posted: »

    I was more excited for TLOU2 than S3 before it's release and after the let down i am looking forward to it's release even more. So i think i

  • You should definitely play the Uncharted series one day. I've always been a PS guy so i guess it's just unfortunate that for some people that they cannot play ND's games. I have always played games for the story and characters.
    Games like Final Fantasy (the classics not the modern shit), Life Is Strange among others had incredible stories and characters and ND always deliver each game i have played as well. Telltale delivered brilliantly in season 1. They succeeded in making me care about the characters, the same way i do for Ellie and Joel.

    Trust me, i wish things were different with how i feel about TT but it's been 5 years now and each game that followed has lacked in several aspects and this new season is the weakest of all. I do know how you feel though. I feel the same way whenever a tv show or game series ends for good. It sucks and it feels like TT aren't the same company anymore.

    Deltino posted: »

    I'll give ND credit on one thing; they're one the few developers-- AAA devs at that-- that actually care, that still put a lot of heart and

  • I havent read the comics or anything, but why cant the comics and the games just be separate things in the same universe?

    I mean, video games and comics are 2 completely different mediums, and alot of the people playing the games really enjoy Clems story and character, and alot of the people who read the comics probably dont know who Clem is if they havent played the games, why not keep Clem in the games, where people want her, and keep her out of the comics, where people (probably) dont care too much

    sony12 posted: »

    I'm really starting to believe that Kirkman is going to try to bring Clementine into the comic in some capacity. He even made a statement in

  • I havent read the comics either, but I dont see why the need to have them crossover exist, I mean, the people playing the video games like Clementine, but alot of people reading the comics probably dont care about the video games, so why not just keep Clem in the games and let the comics do whatever, just have them be two different stories in the same universe

    AdamGoodtme posted: »

    I haven't read the comics, but I'm betting they had a time skip because the actors on the show have all aged 7 years in 2 years (especially

  • My thought exactly, people have been talking about them wanting to bring Clem and stuff into the comics (I dont know anything about the comics btw), but whats the point? I mean, the fans of the games obviously like Clem, and alot of the people reading the comics probably dont care about the games, but if they put Clem in the comics, what would happen to the games, they can hardly make any new games about her if she is in the comics, unless its just like a cameo or something.

    Just let the game be, and let the comics be, two different stories in the same universe

    Seeing as Clem and most of the characters in the game seasons are not in the comics or the show, then yes, I believe that the game should be its own.

  • I stopped watching the show back in season 3 cause I don't like watching real people dying nowadays. I never have read the comics cause they seem over the top with language and gore.

    Actually my friend who I got into the series, has watched every episode, read every comic, etc, says that he's mad at Kirkman cause of the new issues.

    My thought exactly, people have been talking about them wanting to bring Clem and stuff into the comics (I dont know anything about the comi

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