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  • I want to see a crown on Conrad's head now.

    If Conrad managed to survive the whole season, we can officially call him King Determinant Character.

  • I'm also part of the Conrad is Alive club. That guy is luckier than Kenny.

  • I wanted to care, I really did, but Tripp is just pointless and Eleanor is official idk.

    AronDracula posted: »

    Conrad is the only Prescott member I love so far. I don't care for Tripp and Eleanor anymore.

  • He hates my guts but I accidently let him live. I wanted Ava to survive but nope, Joan had to be a bitch about it.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I wanted to care, I really did, but Tripp is just pointless and Eleanor is official idk.

  • What would make you like/care about him? I am just curious. When we first discussed him (probably a month ago) you never mentioned and you always have good ideas. :)

    DabigRG posted: »

    I wanted to care, I really did, but Tripp is just pointless and Eleanor is official idk.

  • That alleyway with Ben was impossible to get out of in Kenny's position.

    ClemRanger posted: »

    I'm also part of the Conrad is Alive club. That guy is luckier than Kenny.

  • I'm really liking what telltale is doing with Conrad and how well they've handled him. Hopefully they let him liven to the end in a determinant manner.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    I mean if they don't want him to be in the next season they could have him ride off into the sunset with a renewed sense of purpose like an old western.

    Chibikid posted: »

    I'm really liking what telltale is doing with Conrad and how well they've handled him. Hopefully they let him liven to the end in a determinant manner.

  • I would be perfectly fine with that and it would make sense. This is all assuming they make another season.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    I mean if they don't want him to be in the next season they could have him ride off into the sunset with a renewed sense of purpose like an old western.

  • Just one season with Javi seems a little short. Unless they kill him off in this game.

    Chibikid posted: »

    I would be perfectly fine with that and it would make sense. This is all assuming they make another season.

  • We had one season with Lee which was fantastic. I highly doubt they'll kill him off since he's the new walking dead poster child for telltale.

    Just one season with Javi seems a little short. Unless they kill him off in this game.

  • Such as for Clementine to drag Lee to that jewelry store. The plot, saving people since always.

    Chibikid posted: »

    That alleyway with Ben was impossible to get out of in Kenny's position.

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    To be somewhat fair, the jewelry store was right behind where Lee blacked out.

    fallandir posted: »

    Such as for Clementine to drag Lee to that jewelry store. The plot, saving people since always.

  • He got lucky real lucky ( so he's probably a decedent of Kenny skin color aside) .

  • Tripp has almost always been a pretty undefined character from where I stand since Part 1 mostly just had him be something of a reasonable authority figure(who's exact job description wasn't very clear, but most just assume he's the leader anyway), which was fine for what it was back then, but there was also very little about him beyond that and his super obvious resemblance to Kenny(aka the Most Overexposed Game Character). But then the events of Part 2 happen and these issues truly began to show: Conrad and Eleanor seem way more torn up about Prescott's destruction than he is, he seemingly has no gripes about the town and people he diligently looked after being lost because some stranger allied with a known troublemaker pissed off some well-connected thugs, and it even seemed like the dialogue writer(s) mixed him and Conrad up a few times, as he'd suddenly get angry/aggressive despite supposedly being the cool-headed one. Above the Law definitely seemed like it was making an effort to massage these issues, even if his only real "development" is talking about his flip-flopping feelings about his old relationship with Eleanor, but then Thicker than Water had him at his worst by doing little beside be worked up about comparatively little things; it's particularly telling that the best scenes with him in these episode are the decision regarding Badger's fate(which is because he harkens back to being the reasonable one) and becoming partially determinant by Joan's order(which was a great twist).

    So, you ask what would make me like or at least care more about him? Well, some actual backstory to flesh him out for one thing. One of the main factors in why Tripp is so flagrant to me is the fact that, unlike in the case of Season 2's characters, he is pretty damn irrelevant to ANF's comparatively streamlined story and yet so little effort is being put into making him a defined/distinct supporting character despite how much screentime he gets compared to the other two Prescott-ites or how minimalist the cast is, and all those other problems I listed above are a reflection of this. So if we were to fix him up, I'd answer the obvious question: How did he come to guard over Prescott? Again, unless I missed something, his exact position of authority in Prescott is never specified and while having a good settlement leader is certainly a novelty in and of itself, I'd personally prefer if he wasn't its leader or even an elected official. Given Conrad's bar, Francine's scarf and horses, and Eli's position as a dealer/smuggler, why not go the extra mile and make him the symbolic"Sheriff" of the Settlement altogether(assuming he didn't own the airship it's built on at least): he wandered into town during its early days, helped fend off a troublesome group of Walkers/Bandits/Russians, and he just stuck around after that, with the people not minding at all due to his hard work and possibly his history with Conrad and Eleanor. That would reduce the amount of informed importance he has by making it clear he has no overt title and just acts as the Guardian because it suits him, making his serious but fair demeanor towards outsiders all the more notable.

    That's the main thing I can think of at the moment.

    Fangirl101 posted: »

    What would make you like/care about him? I am just curious. When we first discussed him (probably a month ago) you never mentioned and you always have good ideas.

  • since he's the new walking dead poster child for telltale.

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    Chibikid posted: »

    We had one season with Lee which was fantastic. I highly doubt they'll kill him off since he's the new walking dead poster child for telltale.

  • I want Conrad to survive the whole season if you let him alive in episode 2, 3 and 4.

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    oh, it's not that bad

    the general audience of everything love big buff studs in lead roles

    since he's the new walking dead poster child for telltale.

  • So do I, but not big buff boring studs that are more shallow than a small puddle in a human drama narrative driven game where we're meant to identify and relate to the protagonist and their respective role.

    I can't get into the choices of the game cause I can't get into the mind of someone who is more boring than I am.

    Deltino posted: »

    oh, it's not that bad the general audience of everything love big buff studs in lead roles

  • What if Clem becomes determinant in episode 5....and she only survives if Conrad is alive

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    I can't get into the mind of someone who is more boring than I am

    Maybe this is life's way of telling you that you're too interesting of a person

    Maybe it's time for you to sit down in a rocker, knit some quilts or something

    So do I, but not big buff boring studs that are more shallow than a small puddle in a human drama narrative driven game where we're meant to

  • Maybe it's time for you to sit down in a rocker, knit some quilts or something

    That's actually a good idea if I wanted to get into the mindset of Javier's personality.

    But I don't think it's worth it.

    Deltino posted: »

    I can't get into the mind of someone who is more boring than I am Maybe this is life's way of telling you that you're too interesting of a person Maybe it's time for you to sit down in a rocker, knit some quilts or something

  • Javier is a big buff stud? Ok.......

    Deltino posted: »

    oh, it's not that bad the general audience of everything love big buff studs in lead roles

  • Something I just realized. Most people who shot Conrad are mostly the same people who spared Max. I don't understand why. Conrad threatens Clementine and Gabe. Everyone gets mad and shoots him. Max helps raid communities with Badger involving many deaths. So if you ask me the people who shot Conrad and spared Max weren't doing the right thing by shooting Conrad.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    To be fair it was immediately obvious that Max could be beneficial.

    Menofthe214 posted: »

    Something I just realized. Most people who shot Conrad are mostly the same people who spared Max. I don't understand why. Conrad threatens C

  • Well I think that Max could've easily betrayed David and Javier during the council meeting. I still don't really trust Max after I found out he helped with the raiding of communities. Yes he was useful but so was Conrad (and possibly Lingard). I'm not saying that sparing Max was a bad thing (don't worry I spared him as well), but sparing Conrad isn't that bad as well considering what he did after. I spared Lingard as well because I thought he might help later on. But I guess most people spared Max because they knew that he would be useful later on whereas most of those same people shot Conrad when they were thinking about Clem's safety rather then how Conrad could be useful.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    To be fair it was immediately obvious that Max could be beneficial.

  • Conrad poses an immediate and real threat

    Max does not

    Menofthe214 posted: »

    Something I just realized. Most people who shot Conrad are mostly the same people who spared Max. I don't understand why. Conrad threatens C

  • I'm not saying that sparing Max was a bad thing (don't worry I spared him as well), but sparing Conrad isn't that bad as well considering what he did after.

    I think this is definitely the nail on the head. Taking Conrad's deal came with the implication that the group would be really ambiguous in terms of the morality and trustworthiness of each member, while bringing the already proven to be lawful thug-face Max before the Council had immediate benefits that was unlikely to backfire.

    Menofthe214 posted: »

    Well I think that Max could've easily betrayed David and Javier during the council meeting. I still don't really trust Max after I found out

  • edited April 2017

    Tripp has almost always been a pretty undefined character from where I stand since Part 1 mostly just had him be something of a reasonable authority figure(who's exact job description wasn't very clear, but most just assume he's the leader anyway), which was fine for what it was back then, but there was also very little about him beyond that and his super obvious resemblance to Kenny(aka the Most Overexposed Game Character).

    The wiki page says he is the leader of Prescott. I like his introduction in Part 1. At first he seems like an asshole, but then we see that this is not the case. He resembles Kenny, but not THAT much in my opinion. Kenny gets butthurt over little things. Hell, he would hate you for the rest of his life if you tell him that his shoes suck. I can't believe that there are people who think he is better than Lee (like wtf). And Tripp wasn't mad at Ava for punching him. He even complimented her for her strength. Probably Kenny should have died instead of Sarita(I miss her).
    I started reading the comics lately and I've noticed that Tripp seems to resemble Abraham more than Kenny.
    Eleanor can also say "He(Tripp) means well, but he has a lot on his shoulders."

    Conrad and Eleanor seem way more torn up about Prescott's destruction than he is, he seemingly has no gripes about the town and people he diligently looked after being lost because some stranger allied with a known troublemaker pissed off some well-connected thugs, and it even seemed like the dialogue writer(s) mixed him and Conrad up a few times, as he'd suddenly get angry/aggressive despite supposedly being the cool-headed one.

    Agreed. I also thought It was weird how he wasn't affected by the town's destruction like he wasn't the leader. It was not really Javier's fault. Badger and his crew(except for Max) love to cause trouble apparently. They killed a 10 year old girl for a frickin pudding!! Tripp seems rational, but mostly acts on his emotions I guess.
    I feel like Eleanor being torn up about Prescott is one of the reasons that pushed her to make a deal with Joan - to stay in New Richmond. She wanted a place to call home. On the AMA lately one of the writers said that Eleanor thought Tripp would stay with her in Richmond. So I guess Joan lied to her and captured him...

    it's particularly telling that the best scenes with him in these episode are the decision regarding Badger's fate(which is because he harkens back to being the reasonable one) and becoming partially determinant by Joan's order(which was a great twist).

    Agreed. Him becoming determinant like that was something I did not expect, either! It was hard to choose between him and Ava since I like both of them a lot. Why the hell did Joan become determinant???

    Given Conrad's bar, Francine's scarf and horses, and Eli's position as a dealer/smuggler, why not go the extra mile and make him the symbolic"Sheriff" of the Settlement altogether(assuming he didn't own the airship it's built on at least): he wandered into town during its early days, helped fend off a troublesome group of Walkers/Bandits/Russians, and he just stuck around after that, with the people not minding at all due to his hard work and possibly his history with Conrad and Eleanor.

    I love that idea! We definetely need his backstory, how he met Elle and Conrad, how they found the airstrip and built the town etc. I won't mind a DLC about the three of them(playing as the three of them would be good). 3 days ago I actually had a dream where I played a DLC about Eleanor!
    I am glad you asked about Shades-chick on the AMA! :D Good to know that she is one of David's friends.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Tripp has almost always been a pretty undefined character from where I stand since Part 1 mostly just had him be something of a reasonable a

  • Don't worry, next episode Tripp will tell him how lucky he is, and then a piano will fall on his head. Or something.

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    Don't worry, next episode Tripp will tell him how lucky he is, and then a piano will fall on his head.

    So if Tripp dies Conrad lives again? Confirmed!

    Arya_Stupid posted: »

    Don't worry, next episode Tripp will tell him how lucky he is, and then a piano will fall on his head. Or something.

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    Arya_Stupid posted: »

    Don't worry, next episode Tripp will tell him how lucky he is, and then a piano will fall on his head. Or something.

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    Arya_Stupid posted: »

    Don't worry, next episode Tripp will tell him how lucky he is, and then a piano will fall on his head. Or something.

  • Honestly, I'm glad they did allow Conrad to survive through all of this.

    Marsh16194 posted: »

    I kind of feel annoyed at Telltale for letting Conrad live even though only 10% of people actually didn't kill Conrad in the first place. Ma

  • He died for me my first time too. It's like a very small opening.

    I played through it again, and I was moving the pad to the right continously as fast as possible as soon as I saw Kate come around the corner.

    He's alive now ;)

    wdfan posted: »

    Shit didn't know that. Must have been too slow to react. The game runs a little laggy on my computer so that's probably why.

  • He resembles Kenny, but not THAT much in my opinion. Kenny gets butthurt over little things. Hell, he would hate you for the rest of his life if you tell him that his shoes suck.

    Unfortunately for him, that's just a hurdle he'd have to jump over cause that's the immediate connection. And he's done a very poor job of clearing it 4 episodes in.

    I can't believe that there are people who think he is better than Lee (like wtf).

    Yeah, seriously.

    Probably Kenny should have died instead of Sarita(I miss her).

    Agreed: another reason why I didn't like him incidentally.

    I started reading the comics lately and I've noticed that Tripp seems to resemble Abraham more than Kenny.

    Yeah, I read that on TVTropes; it means practically nothing to me though.

    It was not really Javier's fault. Badger and his crew(except for Max) love to cause trouble apparently. They killed a 10 year old girl for a frickin pudding!! Tripp seems rational, but mostly acts on his emotions I guess.

    Yeah, I know, but it's still weird that he'd be willing to put the guy they destroyed the town trying to get in charge with a smile.

    I feel like Eleanor being torn up about Prescott is one of the reasons that pushed her to make a deal with Joan - to stay in New Richmond. She wanted a place to call home. On the AMA lately one of the writers said that Eleanor thought Tripp would stay with her in Richmond. So I guess Joan lied to her and captured him...

    Is that so? Guess he wasn't just being selfish with "They don't want the rest of us like they want you. Can you really be happy never seeing me again?"

    Why the hell did Joan become determinant???

    I assume it's a reference to how people wanted to kill a character really badly in the past, but couldn't due to plot reasons, so they got around that by having David tell Javier to shoot Joan while she's out in the open for her actions. The problem is doing so also takes away what was built up to be the Big Bad of the Season and leaves Clint behind to presumably take the role, so I have no idea how they're gonna handle that with one episode left.

    I love that idea! We definetely need his backstory, how he met Elle and Conrad, how they found the airstrip and built the town etc. I won't mind a DLC about the three of them(playing as the three of them would be good). 3 days ago I actually had a dream where I played a DLC about Eleanor!

    Plus Ava and another character. Btw, what did that dream entail?

    I am glad you asked about Shades-chick on the AMA! :D Good to know that she is one of David's friends.

    Yeah, thanks! I was concerned that she didn't have a role in Thicker than Water after the previous episode seemingly set her up to be determinately important. I guess my theory about her being Huh-chick in disguise isn't gonna pan out, though.

    Fangirl101 posted: »

    Tripp has almost always been a pretty undefined character from where I stand since Part 1 mostly just had him be something of a reasonable a

  • I'm so happy I kept Conrad alive in my most recent playthrough :3 I'm also happy I got to save him in episode 4. Wonder what his next possible determinant death will be In episode 5? Fist it was death by making a choices and knowing, then it was death by making a choice and not knowing, now it was quick time event, maybe next episode it will be thing where you have to give him advice? It gives you 3 options, excluding silence but only 1 of them keeps him alive.

  • Unfortunately for him, that's just a hurdle he'd have to jump over cause that's the immediate connection. And he's done a very poor job of clearing it 4 episodes in.

    Exactly! He was pretty good in Episode 1: A New Day except for the part where he lets Shawn die. He also helps Lee in the drug store regardless of whether we took Larry's or his side, which is good. But then BAM! that shit in Starved For Help and the other episodes... Kenny, I don't like you anymore.

    Agreed: another reason I didn't like him incidently.

    I hate the fact that Sarita had to die for Kenny's arc to be repeated >_>. I miss her so much. She would have been a better role model to Clementine. Katjaa also deserved better. I feel like the Season 1 writers devoted the least time to her. If she lived much longer, then Lee would have probably survived the bite - she would patch him up better after his arm is cut off.

    Yeah, I read that on TV Tropes; it means practically nothing to me though.

    I guess you don't read the comics, huh. Also, TV Tropes is a good website.

    Yeah, I know, but it's still weird that he'd be willing to put that guy they destroyed the town trying to get in charge with a smile.

    I agree, It would have made more sense if Tripp was the leader of the group.

    Is that so? Guess he wasn't just being selfish "They don't want the rest of us like they want you. Can you really be happy never seeing me again?"

    Yeah, they said that she wanted him to stay there, something like that. Well, he deeply cares about her so no, he wasn't being selfish. They are very close, considering them living 4 years in the same town, being in a romantic relationship. I just realized that the second sentence foreshadows his first determinant death... I am sad now.

    The problem is doing so also takes away what was built up to be the Big Bad of the Season and leaves Clint behind to presumably take the role, so I have no idea how they're gonna handle that with one episode left.

    I know right! Joan is like the main villain and they make her determinant?! That's just silly! (but I shot her anyway because she is a bitch lol and I hate what she did). I don't think Clint will take the role as a villain (or I am naïve?). He seemed to be on our side on this, giving us a chance to leave Richmond. Probably Joan's followers will come back for us.

    Plus Ava and another character. Btw, what did that dream entail?

    Don't worry, friend. I haven't forgotten about her. :) It would be great if she has her own DLC! She is the coolest female, together with Kate(my love for her returned btw :D). Ava was the last person I expected to become determinant. When I had to choose between her and Tripp, I thought about you at that moment because I know that she is your favourite. And other character? Hmm David?
    Ah, about the dream. I don't remember much. After Prescott was established, Eleanor told Tripp and Conrad that she wants to find survivors in the area and bring them in the community. Tripp offers to go with her. She accepts. Conrad stays on guard. Then Tripp and Eleanor drive in his van (she drove btw). Then they arrive at some place. It looked like a junkyard(it wasn't the one from the beginning). Also it was nighttime. Eleanor just started exploring aaand I woke up. Pretty weird, right? :D

    I guess my theory about her being Huh-chick being Shades-chick in disguise isn't gonna pan out, though.

    Well, we need to know what's under the shades, that way we'll know for sure haha.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He resembles Kenny, but not THAT much in my opinion. Kenny gets butthurt over little things. Hell, he would hate you for the rest of his lif

  • i think they might slightly change the plot of episode 5 in these choices by having you either help Kill Clint who wanted to let you live and keep siding with David or stop David s rampage and stop him from murdering Clint.

    DabigRG posted: »

    He resembles Kenny, but not THAT much in my opinion. Kenny gets butthurt over little things. Hell, he would hate you for the rest of his lif

  • i think conrad s getting another gun death scene in episode 5 or something retarded like him commiting suicide because he s depressed about Tripp s death just after getting over Francine s.

    Melton23 posted: »

    I'm so happy I kept Conrad alive in my most recent playthrough I'm also happy I got to save him in episode 4. Wonder what his next possible

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