Voodoo Lady is the real villian, not Lechuck

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  • edited August 2009
    Is it me. or does this sound too familiar to a recent trilogy featuring Bonny Lepp ?
  • edited August 2009
    Is it me. or does this sound too familiar to a recent trilogy featuring Bonny Lepp ?

    the one with ciera frightly ?? :confused:
  • edited August 2009
    the one with ciera frightly ?? :confused:

    Noo, I think its the one with Coronado Broom.


    Honestly, I don't think the Voodoo Lady is evil. I'm sure she has some secrets, but most of the time she's really trying to help Guybrush stop LeChuck and save Elaine. So if it turns out she's evil it would be kind of the EMI Grandpa Marley thing and would probably suck.
  • edited August 2009
    Well, she doesn't HAVE to be an evil, scheming voodoo entrepreneur, but sure I bet she has some kind of secret agenda. Helping Guybrush is fine, but that laugh in the intro was downright creepy and TTG would lose a bit in my eyes if they left it unexplained.
  • edited August 2009
    I wouldn't mind Tales copying PotC a little. With the voodoo lady having a sudden lover from the past, that has already happened anyway ^-^

    Just not to go over board with too obvious copying.
    Maybe it was even Ron's original idea that she has some master plan.
  • edited August 2009
    saying vodoo lady is the villain is as good as saying hermit toothrot is the real brains behind this :confused: :eek:
  • edited August 2009
    feverfew wrote: »
    Well, she doesn't HAVE to be an evil, scheming voodoo entrepreneur, but sure I bet she has some kind of secret agenda. Helping Guybrush is fine, but that laugh in the intro was downright creepy and TTG would lose a bit in my eyes if they left it unexplained.

    Maybe she's like the gods in Greek mythology who were not necessarily evil, but laughed at the attempts of mortals. It didn't seem like an evil laugh, just a "How are you going to get out of this, puny?"

    Kind of a dark humor for Guybrush's possible death, not "I hope he dies so I can rule the world"

    Now the seagulls on the other hand...
  • edited August 2009
    hplikelike wrote: »
    Maybe she's like the gods in Greek mythology who were not necessarily evil, but laughed at the attempts of mortals. It didn't seem like an evil laugh, just a "How are you going to get out of this, puny?"

    Kind of a dark humor for Guybrush's possible death, not "I hope he dies so I can rule the world"

    Now the seagulls on the other hand...

    It is possible, but in my opinion, it clashes with her previous,established image. Throughout the series, she was a good, sometimes erratic helper. We've never seen much malice or underhand behaviour from her. She was mysterious, true, but as soon as I entered the House of Mojo, I knew I'd get some advice.

    In ToMI, it is a bit different. She's still helpful, but much more enigmatic, even scary. Kinda reminds me of Elaine, both of them tell you what to do without giving any explanations. And seeing her as a godlike being is a whole new kind of experience and (in my opinion) a shift from her previous image.

    The seagull seems suspicious, always following you... A spy?
  • edited September 2009
    For some reason that idea reminds me of the Fortune Teller (or whatever she was) from the Pirates of the Carribean Movies as well. She has a dark past that she doesn't go around announcing. I don't want to give away the movies but she could be withholding something important about Desinge or that guy with the disgusting canoe. Although I hope not cause the movie sorta takes it away from being a surprise if it happens again in a story.
  • edited September 2009
    Guinea wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind Tales copying PotC a little. With the voodoo lady having a sudden lover from the past, that has already happened anyway ^-^

    Just not to go over board with too obvious copying.
    Maybe it was even Ron's original idea that she has some master plan.

    Well.. since PotC has copied everything from MI I wouldn't mind at all. Actually I would love to see such references aswell.. such as Guybrush was a pirate hero way before Jack Sparrow was :)
  • edited September 2009
    I'd like to hear from a member of the Telltale team.
  • edited September 2009
    The voodoo lady is definitely evil - she keeps cat knuckles in jars!
  • edited September 2009
    I'm sure LeChuck turns evil again in the final episode, just to set everything back to 'normal'. :cool:
    But it would be cool to know more about the real motives of the Voodoo-Lady.
    On the other side, maybe Stan turns out to be the real badguy... :D

    Well, I'm just glad to have MI back! Can't wait for the next episode! :)
  • edited September 2009
    saying vodoo lady is the villain is as good as saying hermit toothrot is the real brains behind this :confused: :eek:

    Ah, you've figured it out to, eh? Seriously, who remembers stuff by being hit in the head?! Man was Guybrush et al. fooled. And now they will have to pay...
  • edited September 2009
    I think the Voodoo Lady has always been in the game toward her own ends but I think she's independent (neither good nor bad), not evil.
  • edited September 2009
    Hehe she's the 17th century answer to a drug dealer! :p
  • edited September 2009
    Spadge wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't think the Voodoo Lady is evil. I'm sure she has some secrets, but most of the time she's really trying to help Guybrush stop LeChuck and save Elaine. So if it turns out she's evil it would be kind of the EMI Grandpa Marley thing and would probably suck.
    I second that!

    So, let's hope the guys Telltale won't do anything they'd have to regret.
    I wonder if the Voodoo Lady will appear in all the remaining chapters. Not as the "announcer" like in the beginning of Chapter 2, that would be boring. But I wonder if Guybrush will get back to Flotsam Island and talk to her again, or if she'll be moving to another island in the course of the season.
  • edited September 2009
    I thought about this the other day.

    Maybe she is evil. I think she would make an awesome villain, and I wouldn't think it was stupid or anything, she's always a bit sus. Still, I think it would be a shame to kill off such an important character, I mean what would happen with season 2?

    I dunno, Telltale could pull it off.
  • edited September 2009
    Also Elaine is acting very weird, doesn't anybody notice it? MAybw she is working together with the Voodoo lady to kil Guybrush!!??? I mean she seems awfully friendly to LeChuck and she didn't want to kiss Guybrush... i mean which wife doesn't kiss her man after a ship explodes and she doesn't see him till now???? Maybe it was an accident, maybe the sword was crooked...the spell was miss spelled! I bet it was a conspiracy!!!! And that ring? Maaaybe it has a tracking device in it!!!????...ok that kinda sounds like Batman but STILL!! Maybe Elaine an the voodoo lady are working together!!
  • edited September 2009
    The Voodoo Lady could very well be EVIL this time around. I mean come'on she always giving FREE advise! Every game she has said she has costs to maintain her voodoo, and Guybrush doesn't so much as tip her! Maybe she is just trying to get some value outta him, maybe she's not completely bad. I could see it though! My theory is that the so called "Pirate God" referred to for the final chapter is none other than Elaine Marley Threepwood! Think about it besides Guybrush who was exposed to the pox first? I think she will be the ultimate villain, SHE'S playing Guybrush and LeChuck! She is going to send LeChuck to find Guybrush, collect all the monkey's she helped LeChuck Scatter and take control of the oceans! Guybrush and LeChuck will both have to fight against the woman they love for survival and the good of the Caribbean.
  • edited September 2009
    The Voodoo Lady could very well be EVIL this time around. I mean come'on she always giving FREE advise! Every game she has said she has costs to maintain her voodoo, and Guybrush doesn't so much as tip her! Maybe she is just trying to get some value outta him, maybe she's not completely bad. I could see it though! My theory is that the so called "Pirate God" referred to for the final chapter is none other than Elaine Marley Threepwood! Think about it besides Guybrush who was exposed to the pox first? I think she will be the ultimate villain, SHE'S playing Guybrush and LeChuck! She is going to send LeChuck to find Guybrush, collect all the monkey's she helped LeChuck Scatter and take control of the oceans! Guybrush and LeChuck will both have to fight against the woman they love for survival and the good of the Caribbean.

    good theory... because you spoiled it they'll probably make a different story now :D:D:D
  • edited September 2009
    I don't think the Voodoo lady would ever, purposely, be evil. Maybe misguided, but not evil. And I'm glad they took her back to her more magical powerful self rather than keep with the cheap tricks look of MI3 and MI4.
  • edited September 2009
    I think you guys are overanalyzing the Voodoo Lady. Her role in the games is just a guide and helps new adventure game players sort out goals, gives some hints, and clarifies where the story is headed. It isn't a coincidence she's always on the first island you start on.

    In this game they have decided to actually make her part of the story, but her neutral guide actions can't be interpreted as evil. Well, they can if you try hard enough, but then you could also make Stan the evil Pirate God as he just tries to rip you off in every game.
  • edited September 2009
    StoutFiles wrote: »
    Well, they can if you try hard enough, but then you could also make Stan the evil Pirate God as he just tries to rip you off in every game.

    I knew it! Stan IS the evil Pirate God! He wants to take over all the stores in the Caribbean!
    Sorry, couldn't help it.

    My opinion is kinda split on this. I love speculation, but I really just wanna wait and be surprised.
    Also, about the evil laugh in the intro, I don't think she was really laughing evilly. I just think that, because Guybrush is her "friend" (or something along those lines), she's mocking him. I'm sure she knew he wasn't really going to die. Maybe she was laughing to add suspense.

    One more thing: did someone say that the Voodoo Lady said she could only see people who "have a mark of voodoo"? If that's true, then how could she see that Guybrush was going to die? He wasn't cursed or anything at the time.
  • edited September 2009
    Guybrush must've been cursed with Extremely Powerful Voodoo that makes all his True Desires come to pass. How else can you explain him getting out of all those Traps and Explosions unharmed?;) He IS a walking Voodoo Curse:eek:
  • edited September 2009
    Maybe she can track him since he's contaminated with the pox?

    However, in the first chapter she can't track Elaine... so either Elaine's infection was more recent, or the voodoo lady can't use the pox to track people... or she was lying.

    Maybe she can track the pyrite parrot? That was made with voodoo wasn't it?
  • edited September 2009
    Well, actually, I was talking about her telling him he was going to die in CMI, not TMI.
  • edited September 2009
    Hmm... psychic connection with Madame Xima who was there at the time?
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  • edited September 2009
    I don't want the Voodoo Lady to turn out to be evil, but it might just be the case...
  • edited September 2009
    I don't want her to be evil either. :(
  • edited September 2009

    I'm thinking this refers more to her relationship to De Cava and a possible curse she may have placed or may end up placing on him.
  • edited September 2009
    I absolutely LOVE how episodic games have introduced time elements that never before existed, reshaping the way we experience the story. Theories and speculations have arisen because we now have intervals of waiting like you might experience with your favorite TV show. It's really great!

    I also love how Telltale has released some "clues" about the upcoming episodes to stoke the fires of speculation (Screenshots, episode titles, De Cava's journal, etc.). This has really built the anticipation for each installment.

    Anyway, back on topic...

    I think De Cava's journal entry, "She will thank me for this..." written next to a picture of La Esponja Grande (It really is Grande!) has me reconsidering what I know about the Voodoo Lady. It seems to me that De Cava wants to eliminate all of the voodoo from her, which makes me wonder: why would De Cava want to rid the Voodoo Lady of her voodoo?

    If she's become evil and corrupt by her voodoo powers, then his actions would make sense. Remember Guybrush's innocent words, "I'll bet there was a conspiracy!" Well... Maybe there was... Look at this:

    Tarot_Card_The_Curse.jpg

    Is it possible the Voodoo Lady is responsible for the release of The Pox? Could she be building an army of voodoo slaves? Also take into account this eerie Spinner Cay introduction (YouTube).

    This theory may not be so far fetched. And if she actually does encounter La Esponja Grande, we may well see a normal "Voodoo" lady by the end of this season. (As long as "Rise of the Pirate God" doesn't consist of a giant-sized Voodoo Lady that later turns into a horde of crabs... That's been done.)
  • edited September 2009
    You know... Your whole "de Singe" thing may have something to it. But I very much doubt that Telltale will put a twist in that the voodoo lady is evil. Otherwise why would she have helped Guybrush so much so far.
    And also that DeCava and de Singe are from two different languages. And I was hoping for some kind of crossover... I ran de Cava into Google Translator for Spanish and it came up with Champagne, and high-grade GCSE French (despite being from 4 years back now) tells me that "Le Marquis de Singe" is French for "the Marquis of monkeys". No crossover, sorry.
  • edited September 2009
    Slanzinger wrote: »
    You know... Your whole "de Singe" thing may have something to it. But I very much doubt that Telltale will put a twist in that the voodoo lady is evil. Otherwise why would she have helped Guybrush so much so far.
    And also that DeCava and de Singe are from two different languages. And I was hoping for some kind of crossover... I ran de Cava into Google Translator for Spanish and it came up with Champagne, and high-grade GCSE French (despite being from 4 years back now) tells me that "Le Marquis de Singe" is French for "the Marquis of monkeys". No crossover, sorry.

    "Le Marquis des Singes" would be "the Marquis of monkeys". The name of this French aristocrat can be more accurately translated as "The Monkey Marquis". In any case, it's made up.
  • edited September 2009
    I totally expect that from the Voodoo Lady, but I don't know where Decava's journal is, in Spinner Cay to know that.
  • edited September 2009
    You know, I never actually thought about it, but it would be kind of awesome if she was a villan in the end. I mean realy. Think about it. 4 full games we thought she was a friend all to find out that in the very last game, she is a villain.

    The whole point about her previous to the other games "cursing lechuck" and making him the way he was and then leading Guybrush on this adventure to find the sponge that could possibly put an end to her voodoo nonsense; THATS TOTALLY LEGIT. Really. I could see that working out!
  • edited September 2009
    Maybe she was preparing Guybrush to fit in her "masterplan" for rescuing her husband, who was an adventurer pirate that was searching for a treasure "La esponja grande". So she tested Guybrush to make him rescue her husband and live happy, so she cursed lechuck and make him fall into elaine. The Voodo Lady´s Masterplan?
  • edited September 2009
    She may just be effected by the pox. I love the fact that they are actually making her a pivotal part of the story and has heavy connections to other characters instead of just a guide. I always viewed her as somebody that could never be in danger, now even she may need to be rescued by Guybrush.
  • edited September 2009
    What would happen if the voodoo lady got the pox?! Or maybe she has another "la esponja grande" in her back pocket? Who knows! The world of MI is a crazy one.
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