That occurred to me, too. That would explain her evil laugh from Chapter Two's intro. I'm really wondering what plans Telltale have for her... With that "The Curse" tarot card and all...
Yeah, it is a scary thought thinking about a poxed out Voodoo Lady. She could be really really dangerous if she was evil. Maybe SHE is the Pirate God? I mean a Pirate with Voodoo powers like hers!? I mean Lechuck wasn't an expert and he's the most feared pirate in the Caribbean...
Is it just me, or is it so that every time "Telltale" gets mentioned in the same line with either team or employee some Telltale employee actually drops by?
Is it just me, or is it so that every time "Telltale" gets mentioned in the same line with either team or employee some Telltale employee actually drops by?
You've unwittingly provided a test for your own theory! :cool:
While I agree that there are several unanswered questions, it could simply be that the pox was growing a long time ago, and that the voodoo lady used big whoop to trap it inside of LeChuck after DeCava failed to bring back the sponge years and years ago.
It explains the Voodoo ladys anger over LeChuck being free of the curse, it explains why DeCava went hunting for the sponge, and cleans up a lot of holes actually.
All without altering a major charecter in a huge way.
It just can't be the voodoo lady....it'd make no sense.
Simply she's been in every MI games so far, always helping Guybrush, why would she cease being 'good'. I see her as the 'wise old man' every story includes, like Gandalf or such. With all the possibilities of voodoo she could get what she wanted with a mere snap of a finger, but that'd not be as fun as having Guybrush doing all the dirty work (or then she REALLY is stuck in that chair).
As for the 'evil' laughter; by being the narrator in ToMI she's just adding some tension to the story. (And LeChuck has way more evil laughter. :cool:)
Also by referring to the 'Rise of the Pirate God' it'd have to be male character. Were it 'goddess' there'd still be enough options to make it a hard nut to crack.
Generally all the previous games have had the same turn of events: Guybrush + Elaine together and LeChuck fails - The End.
Should she become evil it'd break the circle coz she's essential to the story. It simply can't end here...it's a never ending story....it must be.
Is it just me, or is it so that every time "Telltale" gets mentioned in the same line with either team or employee some Telltale employee actually drops by?
she sends him out on quests for HER personal benefit, I think something went wrong, and she is still trying to make it right.. I think she's a nominal charatar, and she needs to have a good swing and bad.. but i dont think she is "evil" tho her Vooodoo does make some evil out of her.
she sends him out on quests for HER personal benefit, I think something went wrong, and she is still trying to make it right.. I think she's a nominal charatar, and she needs to have a good swing and bad.. but i dont think she is "evil" tho her Vooodoo does make some evil out of her.
It seems the pins are hinting at LeChuck being the main villain as opposed to the voodoo lady. It asks what's his master plan, which is usually always associated with villains.
My guess is she is hiding her relationship with DeCava.. and they made that pin to seem all mysterious to drum up interest for the game when they hand them out or sell them at conventions.
I honestly think that LeChuck is now somehow in control of the monkeys and has knowledge over all the secrets they had. The spell in the prologue of chapter 1 may have been tapping into their mental state and they now serve LeChuck. Perhaps they told him what island the summoning artifacts were on and so he went there, using the exuse of returning some of them to the wild as a reason for going there.
I bet LeChuck was planning on obtaining the sponge for two reasons. One to insure his pox remains out there and allows him to control other pirates and make Elaine fall for him and two, to use the sponge to acquire special powers. Once Guybrush showed up however, he decided to use him to get the sponge for him. I bet LeChuck is on Flotsam now waiting for Guybrush so he can claim the sponge and watch Guybrush suffer in trial, watching as LeChuck and Elaine are together and people hating him before being executed.
If you talk to the Voodoo lady, she more or less confesses that, yes, she's been manipulating everything. But she does it with a "WINK WINK, I'm really the good guy in the long run, WINK WINK" fashion that doesn't leave much doubt.
I immediately remembered this thread when the revelation happened, but it seems it's not entirely accurate. Seems Telltale was getting inspiration from players though.
I immediately remembered this thread when the revelation happened, but it seems it's not entirely accurate. Seems Telltale was getting inspiration from players though.
Heh no. Not like this.
They would not have started making episode 1 unless they had a complete script of all the episodes.
Making a game season like this happen requires a lot of planning and logistics. They can't just make-it-up-as-they-go.
So... (Chapter 4 spoilers ahead, for all who didn't suspect it, you've been warned)
Turns out the Voodoo Lady is the one behind all of it... or is she?
Is it possible that LeChuck framed her with a fake journal? Judge Grindstump didn't even bother to read it, did he? And the Voodoo Lady, while not denying that she was manipulating Guybrush somehow, she said she never lied to him.
Especially after the very last scene from Chapter 4, I'm convinced that the revelation about the Voodoo Lady was not entirely true.
I'm not saying the Voodoo lady is totally a good guy, but alot of times she's actually given you some good advice.
And after what Lechuck did in Chapter 4, I'm finding it pretty easy to trust her word compared to Chuckie. Why she didn't argue with LeChuck's claims if he was spreading lies?
I just hope they don't turn her into the next voodoo lady from POTC.
Even though she was pulling the strings, I don't consider her evil. Maybe neutral, but more likely good. When talking to her it sounds to me as if there's a greater goal behind it. Using LeChuck and Guybrush was probably just to prevent worse things from happening. Or to prepare measures against an even worse foe in the shadows.
Why are we talking in spoilers. Not like we're saying anything that deserves to be in these. If I make this'n longer, will that make more people click? Anyhow, Voodoo lady is goab. Or baod. Half bad, half good. Neutral.
Hey everybody's missing an obvious possibility. They're both evil manipulators, and Voodo Lady has misheard the prophecy. She wasn't supposed to manipulate Guybrush U Threepwood but Guybrush Q Threepwood
It occurs to me that the whole thing with LeChuck's evil being cured by him turning human was sort of bull in the first place. When he was still human in the first place, he committed plenty of atrocities. He got engaged to Minnie Goodsoup just so he could steal the diamond from her ring, sell it on Skull Island, buy a boat, and race to Dinky Island before Captain Marley could get there, and then, knowing full well what he was doing, he walked through the gates of Hell in order to obtain power. LeChuck's been an evil sack of SCUMM his entire life, undead or alive.
Maybe so, but you can't say it would've worked if LeChuck hadn't already had the inclination for it. I mean, imagine if she tried to push Guybrush in that direction. He's too good a soul to have gone for it. LeChuck had to possess a predisposition for evil to have ever gone through with it.
Has nobody realised the true demon of the Monkey Island franchise.
Elaine fancied getting Guybrush, so she made up this whole elaborate ghost-kidnapping to see how far he'd go to get her...
Then she decided he was a loser kid and reincarnated LeChuck to destroy him. LeChuck failed eventually. And so Elaine knew she needed to infiltrate close to Guybrush to kill him off.
When she heard he had escaped LeChuck in LCR, she arranged the whole fake-fight at Plunder Island. Then Guybrush unexpectedly proposed, and she spotted a way to kill him (if she's married to him she can kill him while he sleeps). Then the whole cursed thing goes on...
During the honeymoon she tries to kill him many times including getting the evil botoxer of Lovely Island to attack Guybrush (who escaped with a face paralysed into a smile for the next adventure) but he escaped. Then in MI4, she arranges to get Guybrush setup by Pegnose Pete since murdering him clearly isn't as easy as it seems. In the hope he'll drown she arranges Ignatius Cheese to lose an arm-wrestling contest to be his 1st mate, and gets Carla and Otis on-side (since they're lousy sailors). Then in ToMI she's plotting again with LeChuck to get Guybrush killed.
ToMI's final scene in chp.4 is the outcome of a decade's careful planning!
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That occurred to me, too. That would explain her evil laugh from Chapter Two's intro. I'm really wondering what plans Telltale have for her... With that "The Curse" tarot card and all...
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ROTFL ...sorry...but that really did make me laugh a lot
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You've unwittingly provided a test for your own theory! :cool:
It explains the Voodoo ladys anger over LeChuck being free of the curse, it explains why DeCava went hunting for the sponge, and cleans up a lot of holes actually.
All without altering a major charecter in a huge way.
Simply she's been in every MI games so far, always helping Guybrush, why would she cease being 'good'. I see her as the 'wise old man' every story includes, like Gandalf or such. With all the possibilities of voodoo she could get what she wanted with a mere snap of a finger, but that'd not be as fun as having Guybrush doing all the dirty work (or then she REALLY is stuck in that chair).
As for the 'evil' laughter; by being the narrator in ToMI she's just adding some tension to the story. (And LeChuck has way more evil laughter. :cool:)
Also by referring to the 'Rise of the Pirate God' it'd have to be male character. Were it 'goddess' there'd still be enough options to make it a hard nut to crack.
Generally all the previous games have had the same turn of events: Guybrush + Elaine together and LeChuck fails - The End.
Should she become evil it'd break the circle coz she's essential to the story. It simply can't end here...it's a never ending story....it must be.
what?
she sends him out on quests for HER personal benefit, I think something went wrong, and she is still trying to make it right.. I think she's a nominal charatar, and she needs to have a good swing and bad.. but i dont think she is "evil" tho her Vooodoo does make some evil out of her.
Are you saying voodoo=evil?
So maybe she's hiding something? Like the fact that she is PURE EVIL or something.
http://scummbar.com/tx/games/tmi/misc/monkey_buttons.jpg
The fastest way to climb a tree and how much force and trajectory you need to hit a man walking 2 miles an hour with feces thrown against the wind.
now that I think of it that probably is the secret of monkey island... perhaps I should have used spoiler tags?
Guybrush's asks if the monkeys do know the secret, but LeChuck says no and that the secrets they know are darker.
The secret is
I bet LeChuck was planning on obtaining the sponge for two reasons. One to insure his pox remains out there and allows him to control other pirates and make Elaine fall for him and two, to use the sponge to acquire special powers. Once Guybrush showed up however, he decided to use him to get the sponge for him. I bet LeChuck is on Flotsam now waiting for Guybrush so he can claim the sponge and watch Guybrush suffer in trial, watching as LeChuck and Elaine are together and people hating him before being executed.
I dunno.
Lechuck might have been lying.
They would not have started making episode 1 unless they had a complete script of all the episodes.
Making a game season like this happen requires a lot of planning and logistics. They can't just make-it-up-as-they-go.
Turns out the Voodoo Lady is the one behind all of it... or is she?
Is it possible that LeChuck framed her with a fake journal? Judge Grindstump didn't even bother to read it, did he? And the Voodoo Lady, while not denying that she was manipulating Guybrush somehow, she said she never lied to him.
Especially after the very last scene from Chapter 4, I'm convinced that the revelation about the Voodoo Lady was not entirely true.
Elaine fancied getting Guybrush, so she made up this whole elaborate ghost-kidnapping to see how far he'd go to get her...
Then she decided he was a loser kid and reincarnated LeChuck to destroy him. LeChuck failed eventually. And so Elaine knew she needed to infiltrate close to Guybrush to kill him off.
When she heard he had escaped LeChuck in LCR, she arranged the whole fake-fight at Plunder Island. Then Guybrush unexpectedly proposed, and she spotted a way to kill him (if she's married to him she can kill him while he sleeps). Then the whole cursed thing goes on...
During the honeymoon she tries to kill him many times including getting the evil botoxer of Lovely Island to attack Guybrush (who escaped with a face paralysed into a smile for the next adventure) but he escaped. Then in MI4, she arranges to get Guybrush setup by Pegnose Pete since murdering him clearly isn't as easy as it seems. In the hope he'll drown she arranges Ignatius Cheese to lose an arm-wrestling contest to be his 1st mate, and gets Carla and Otis on-side (since they're lousy sailors). Then in ToMI she's plotting again with LeChuck to get Guybrush killed.
ToMI's final scene in chp.4 is the outcome of a decade's careful planning!