1) yes, fish can (and do) reproduce. I meant that ok, maybe mermaids can't reproduce with humans, but a mermaid and a human can still have several types of sex.
2) I always thought the LaGrande part was French, not Spanish. It's hard to know when it wasn't voiced. Of course, since Largo is Spanish, and Spanish in the Carribeans makes more sense, it's probably Spanish and not French.
I don't think I'll be able to stop pronouncing it the French way though (as in, silent e)
1) yes, fish can (and do) reproduce. I meant that ok, maybe mermaids can't reproduce with humans, but a mermaid and a human can still have several types of sex.
2) I always thought the LaGrande part was French, not Spanish. It's hard to know when it wasn't voiced. Of course, since Largo is Spanish, and Spanish in the Carribeans makes more sense, it's probably Spanish and not French.
I don't think I'll be able to stop pronouncing it the French way though (as in, silent e)
I reckon you're right - Largo has his little quip at the beginning of MI2 something like "wherever you go, on sea or on land (something i forgot like watch out for) largo la grande". would make sense for it to rhyme
........- That island that sounds like "I love you" or something... where you get a hint that your partner on the ship is gay
.....Not sure if it's just me getting old, and being less fun?
Obviously not old enough..........However, I am........... and FYI, The Isle of Ewe is is a REAL place, located in Loch Ewe, west of Aultbea in the Ross and Cromarty district of the Highland Region. Scotland... and references to it are SUPPOSED to be funny.
It was mentioned in the Goon Show, during the episode "Lurgi Strikes Britain". First broadcast on November 9, 1954. and imho, they were the forerunners of all the great comedians today eg:
Moriarty:
Sacristi Bombet! Listen to me while I tell you a tale. In 1296 on the Isle of Ewe.......
Seagoon:
Where?
Moriarty:
Isle of Ewe.
Seagoon:
I love you, too. Shall we dance?
People will find smut anywhere if they look for it.... Personally I just enjoy the game. (Sorry if my post is too serious.. can't help it.. I'm old). As someone else pointed out here, SPOONING or to SPOON, whatever, doesn't necessarily mean a total sex act either, it stems from the 1920's (?) and then meant either kissing or cuddling.. if later generations wish to add further connotations to things that is their prerogative/problem.. depending on how you look at it.
I love the MI games... and I'm typing this with a broken wrist...... all and any comments to be written on the back side of a sealed down elephant and posted to...............:rolleyes:
Dont think anyone has said it but that part at the end of Launch of the Screaming Narwhal where de singe is stuck in the idol, if you try to put the weather vane on top guybrush says "id love to but i don think de singe has the necessary... slots"
I'm not here to get into a heated debate, but if you want to discuss some of the specific points with me then I'll be glad to respond.
To those who say "it's only you... these CAN be normal things..." have you ever heard of puns before? Play MI 1 & 2 NOW... I played them when I was about 12, and all the jokes were safe. Now I go back and play and am thinking aaaaaaw... I never picked that one when I was young! Something that really makes Monkey Island is the abundance of a lot of really dodgy puns... they're EVERYWHERE and it's really funny.
- Isle of Ewe... prompting Guybrush to say "I love you" to the fat guy. He responds by saying something like "oh do you? Cool, I'm interested! But uuum... lets discuss it a little later..." **GAY JOKE**
- Guybrush asks the fat guy "how do you tell the difference between the boys and the girls" (something along those lines... he says he's found out the hard way. **LADYBOY JOKE**
- The voodoo lady's boobs on the secret island... "nice cans"... and you can get a close-up of her tits... **BOOBS JOKE**
- Jerk Bait island is just randomly the island where these gender-confused creatures live, and at the same time they all try to hit on Guybrush as he walks past "hey sexy legs!!"...etc. **IT'S NOT UNINTENTIONAL...*
- Spoon Island... note: spooning is having sex... where you lie like spoons (legs bent the same way) give another reason why it's called Spoon Island... it's soooo intentional! **SEX JOKE**
They're not even subtle to be honest... they're all VERY intentional. I think most would find them funny... I do! But I think this chapter's saturated with them and they could have laid off them a bit (no pun intended.)
I like the game... just saying... this chapter's peppered with dirty jokes/puns. The 1st wasn't... guessing the 3rd won't either...
I respect your opinion that you think there's too much sexual references here, although I don't think so at all. It just proves that we've got different taste in humor, and maybe this version of MI aren't your cup of tea.
But who really cares if there are gay jokes and so forth? I would only think that hard core Christians were the only one concerned.
Do people find flight-simulaters offensive as well because you have to sit in a cockpit?
If you try hard enough you find a huge amount of sexual references in almmost every show/game/text. And the only difference between now and then (then = our innocent childhood) is that we are aware of the existence of those references.
So, the Quick answer to this thread is NO. There is not too many sexual references. In fact, we all want more. We are all grown up fans, and we like sex. All the younger players still have the humor fly over their heads and we can still ponder the many interesting innuendo's.:eek:
Look, what do people expect from a game written By Mark Darin? One of his Nick Bounty games was called "A Case Of The Crabs", which is a joke about sexually transmitted diseases. Mark Darin - or, as I like to think of him, Mark "Evil" Darin - is a vile, filth-mongering pornographer of the worst kind, and he should be encased in concrete and buried six miles underground for the good of the general populace.
By which I mean that there are far ruder jokes in the average episode of Diagnosis Murder than there are in Spinner Cay. And I'd much rather have slightly risque jokes than non-jokes about Dora The Explorer and Youtube.
Mark Darin - or, as I like to think of him, Mark "Evil" Darin - is a vile, filth-mongering pornographer of the worst kind, and he should be encased in concrete and buried six miles underground for the good of the general populace.
I couldn't agree with you more!
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Wait, what?
Or indie adventure "Time, Gentlemen, Please", which features a running joke about being shot in the cock and a puzzle which you solve using Hitler's poo.
Somebody mentioned the "hard core Christians" would be the only audience who cares about there being gay jokes, but I don't think so. I don't think hard core Christians would even play a game with pirates, voodoo, and mythical creatures. But then there aren't many quality games aimed toward Christians, so maybe they secretly would.
Somebody mentioned the "hard core Christians" would be the only audience who cares about there being gay jokes, but I don't think so. I don't think hard core Christians would even play a game with pirates, voodoo, and mythical creatures. But then there aren't many quality games aimed toward Christians, so maybe they secretly would.
This isn't really true. I consider myself a hardcore Christian and I love such games. The terms "ultra-conservative Christians" or "legalistic Christians" are more fitting.
Somebody mentioned the "hard core Christians" would be the only audience who cares about there being gay jokes, but I don't think so. I don't think hard core Christians would even play a game with pirates, voodoo, and mythical creatures. But then there aren't many(they suck) quality games aimed toward Christians, so maybe they secretly would.
This isn't really true. I consider myself a hardcore Christian and I love such games. The terms "ultra-conservative Christians" or "legalistic Christians" are more fitting.
Agreed, you must've been thinking of legalists. Also, this thread is still funny
This thread will never die until Telltale pledge to clean up their act and removed the scandalous filth from their depraved and evil games. BAN THIS SICK FILTH!
This isn't really true. I consider myself a hardcore Christian and I love such games. The terms "ultra-conservative Christians" or "legalistic Christians" are more fitting.
What is a legalistic Christian? I've never come across that term before.. Is that someone who takes all of the christian-holy-book-thing literally?
No. An ultra conservative or legalist is someone who thinks following rules is what being a Christian is all about and enforces them condemning-ly on other people.
No. An ultra conservative or legalist is someone who thinks following rules is what being a Christian is all about and enforces them condemning-ly on other people.
Hehe, hadnt noticed this thread before. To see sexual references in those island names, well I guess you can only have the fun you make yourself. Since we are all at some point focused on sex and anything that might refer to it, it is rather easy to have anything turn out to be sexual references, as the thread starter clearly showed. "Elaine, come over here for a second."... such an obvious sexual reference, he wants her to... you probably get my point. Its hard to find anything that cannot be put in a sexual context somehow. Fish, spoon, mermaids (duh, what was the tale about them to begin with?), beaches...
Isle of Ewe, yes it makes some references. Uncommon to Monkey Island? Well, Largo did happen to have a bra in his laundry and I guess you must have missed the part trying to "pick up" a certain female captain in MI2.
Sexual references are supposed to be in adventure games. Even noticing some of those sexual reference and others doesnt, just proves they are hidden. Not something a preteen person would notice first time seeing it. And just a fair warning... dont play any Leisure suit Larry games
There have been sexual references but most of them are of the type that would go over the heads of those too young or blissfully ignorant. My old school librarian had a philosophy for books with jokes or references of that nature; either the reader won't understand and would probably go on not understanding or they would understand and think little of it.
It's only when we get older that we begin to consider how appropriate certain things should be in popular entertainment.
Yeah, Guybrush's first mate does appear to have a crush on him. Are you a homophobic or do you think that being exposed to a fully clothed gay character who doesn't (or, at least hasn't) engaged in any on-screen sexual activity might cause youngsters to become gay?
I think the crack about Thai lady boys is more racist than anything else as it portrays a stereotype. But, then, younger players probably won't understand the cultural reference and simply laugh at the term 'lady boy(s)'. Which they mightn't even look at in a sexual light, they may just consider it a reference to the species apparent androgyny and share our protagonist’s confusion as to whatever sex the various merfolk happen to be.
In any case, I'm given to suspect that the game's current market is mostly made up of nostalgic adults between 20 something and 40 something.
I think the crack about Thai lady boys is more racist than anything else as it portrays a stereotype. But, then, younger players probably won't understand the cultural reference and simply laugh at the term 'lady boy(s)'. Which they mightn't even look at in a sexual light, they may just consider it a reference to the species apparent androgyny and share our protagonist’s confusion as to whatever sex the various merfolk happen to be.
Ladyboy isn't racist because it's a stereotype, making a joke based on the idea of Thai boys that dress as girls and then prostitute themselves isn't a race issue at all other than that the terminology is based on the fact that transvestite prostitutes from a certain area are more androgynous than those in say Phoenix, AZ.
Also, I would say that if a person is bothered or offended by the innuedo (no, in YOUR endo) that they may want to rethink watching prime time television, or leaving the house for that matter. Why is America so up tight about sex?
winslow is kind of very open minded...he has no greater interest in guybrush than he has in the ship. he just puts everything in a sexual context or at least expresses himself in ways that make it seem that way. he was probably stuck on flotsam for too long...with the only female being the voodoo lady if i remember correctly.
I never got this impression at all. Why does everyone think this?
I never got that impression either. To me the scene sounded like:
"Isle of Ewe"
Winslow, embarassed about being told "I love you" by a man: "Er, don't we have more important things to do right now? Let's talk about that later, ok?"
Guybrush "Haha, very funny joke"
Windlow: "oh, yeah, a joke." (relieved sigh)
Not that I think it's a problem if Windlow IS interested in GB. Sure, why not. I just didn't interpret it that way at all, so it felt weird when everybody was saying he is.
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Oh no... that reminded me of the Thai ladyboys comment from earlier in the thread
I believe you have spooning confused with "Forking".....
Oh, yeah, like
1) yes, fish can (and do) reproduce. I meant that ok, maybe mermaids can't reproduce with humans, but a mermaid and a human can still have several types of sex.
2) I always thought the LaGrande part was French, not Spanish. It's hard to know when it wasn't voiced. Of course, since Largo is Spanish, and Spanish in the Carribeans makes more sense, it's probably Spanish and not French.
I don't think I'll be able to stop pronouncing it the French way though (as in, silent e)
hey, there WERE a few froggies there, don't leave it all to those god damned spaniards :eek:
I reckon you're right - Largo has his little quip at the beginning of MI2 something like "wherever you go, on sea or on land (something i forgot like watch out for) largo la grande". would make sense for it to rhyme
But huh, interesting to know how Largo pronounces his own name.
It was mentioned in the Goon Show, during the episode "Lurgi Strikes Britain". First broadcast on November 9, 1954. and imho, they were the forerunners of all the great comedians today eg:
Moriarty:
Sacristi Bombet! Listen to me while I tell you a tale. In 1296 on the Isle of Ewe.......
Seagoon:
Where?
Moriarty:
Isle of Ewe.
Seagoon:
I love you, too. Shall we dance?
People will find smut anywhere if they look for it.... Personally I just enjoy the game. (Sorry if my post is too serious.. can't help it.. I'm old). As someone else pointed out here, SPOONING or to SPOON, whatever, doesn't necessarily mean a total sex act either, it stems from the 1920's (?) and then meant either kissing or cuddling.. if later generations wish to add further connotations to things that is their prerogative/problem.. depending on how you look at it.
I love the MI games... and I'm typing this with a broken wrist...... all and any comments to be written on the back side of a sealed down elephant and posted to...............:rolleyes:
I respect your opinion that you think there's too much sexual references here, although I don't think so at all. It just proves that we've got different taste in humor, and maybe this version of MI aren't your cup of tea.
But who really cares if there are gay jokes and so forth? I would only think that hard core Christians were the only one concerned.
If you try hard enough you find a huge amount of sexual references in almmost every show/game/text. And the only difference between now and then (then = our innocent childhood) is that we are aware of the existence of those references.
Haha! Best post of the thread!
By which I mean that there are far ruder jokes in the average episode of Diagnosis Murder than there are in Spinner Cay. And I'd much rather have slightly risque jokes than non-jokes about Dora The Explorer and Youtube.
THEN get back to us on how raunchy spinner cay is
I couldn't agree with you more!
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Wait, what?
Largo LaGrande does actually sound like the name of someone out of Allo Allo or a Carry On film.
*sniggers*
Or indie adventure "Time, Gentlemen, Please", which features a running joke about being shot in the cock and a puzzle which you solve using Hitler's poo.
Somebody mentioned the "hard core Christians" would be the only audience who cares about there being gay jokes, but I don't think so. I don't think hard core Christians would even play a game with pirates, voodoo, and mythical creatures. But then there aren't many quality games aimed toward Christians, so maybe they secretly would.
LOL, your not supposed to know yet.
This isn't really true. I consider myself a hardcore Christian and I love such games. The terms "ultra-conservative Christians" or "legalistic Christians" are more fitting.
Agreed, you must've been thinking of legalists. Also, this thread is still funny
This thread will never die until Telltale pledge to clean up their act and removed the scandalous filth from their depraved and evil games. BAN THIS SICK FILTH!
lol!!!!!!!!!!!
What is a legalistic Christian? I've never come across that term before.. Is that someone who takes all of the christian-holy-book-thing literally?
So... you're cool with the gay jokes?
Isle of Ewe, yes it makes some references. Uncommon to Monkey Island? Well, Largo did happen to have a bra in his laundry and I guess you must have missed the part trying to "pick up" a certain female captain in MI2.
Sexual references are supposed to be in adventure games. Even noticing some of those sexual reference and others doesnt, just proves they are hidden. Not something a preteen person would notice first time seeing it. And just a fair warning... dont play any Leisure suit Larry games
It's only when we get older that we begin to consider how appropriate certain things should be in popular entertainment.
Yeah, Guybrush's first mate does appear to have a crush on him. Are you a homophobic or do you think that being exposed to a fully clothed gay character who doesn't (or, at least hasn't) engaged in any on-screen sexual activity might cause youngsters to become gay?
I think the crack about Thai lady boys is more racist than anything else as it portrays a stereotype. But, then, younger players probably won't understand the cultural reference and simply laugh at the term 'lady boy(s)'. Which they mightn't even look at in a sexual light, they may just consider it a reference to the species apparent androgyny and share our protagonist’s confusion as to whatever sex the various merfolk happen to be.
In any case, I'm given to suspect that the game's current market is mostly made up of nostalgic adults between 20 something and 40 something.
Ladyboy isn't racist because it's a stereotype, making a joke based on the idea of Thai boys that dress as girls and then prostitute themselves isn't a race issue at all other than that the terminology is based on the fact that transvestite prostitutes from a certain area are more androgynous than those in say Phoenix, AZ.
I never got this impression at all. Why does everyone think this?
I never got that impression either. To me the scene sounded like:
"Isle of Ewe"
Winslow, embarassed about being told "I love you" by a man: "Er, don't we have more important things to do right now? Let's talk about that later, ok?"
Guybrush "Haha, very funny joke"
Windlow: "oh, yeah, a joke." (relieved sigh)
Not that I think it's a problem if Windlow IS interested in GB. Sure, why not. I just didn't interpret it that way at all, so it felt weird when everybody was saying he is.