I'm an effing adult who holds a high intensity position and likes to relax in the weekends while staying within the FDA recommendation for liquor per week.
I'm not going to lie. I miss the times I was banned or wasn't here. I got way more stuff done with that empty space. When I'm not banned, I have to keep coming back. It's kind of taking up precious time I need to devote to other things.
I'm not going to lie. I miss the times I was banned or wasn't here. I got way more stuff done with that empty space. When I'm not banned, I have to keep coming back. It's kind of taking up precious time I need to devote to other things.
More DISCIPLINE!! Now.
We need you in the front lines against those pesky TWD flamers. We can not ban the 2009ers.
I'm an effing adult who holds a high intensity position and likes to relax in the weekends while staying within the FDA recommendation for liquor per week.
My brother-in-law drinks way too much. He says he likes the taste of beer, but really it's like he drinks as much beer as my wife drinks Diet Dr. Pepper (which is a lot).
He doesn't get inebriated (or so it would appear to me) and isn't any more irritable than usual for drinking as much as he does but my observance that--if there were drinks of any kind made available at any given time, he would rather drink something with alcohol--suggests that he drinks too much.
I'm just saying, while we're on that topic. I'm not suggesting anything about you personally.
I literally can not get myself to do anything. All I could think of was to come here and make a post about it. And now I can't think of anything again.
So apparently Mitt Romney thinks half the country is a bunch of hand out seeking, entitlement chasers who think they're victims, and that he doesn't have to worry about them.
Actually, there's no way to know what he actually thinks. He was speaking to millionaire donor potentials when he said this, so at least we know that he knows they think this.
So the people with wealth and power in this country think they rest of us are all a bunch of freeloaders? That's nice to know.
I've said it for months now: There's no way Obama is going to lose this election.
I think more than half are entitlement chasers. No offence intended to my fellow Americans here, but a WHOLE LOT of Americans I have met think they deserve everything they have and more and talk to staff as customers like so. These folks can't be helping the country, it's not a healthy attitude for any economy.
Yes, I am aware there are people like this in every first world country. It comes with people having life a little too easy. I just find that a disproportionate amount are within the United States.
I read an article about people on the dole in the UK who, when given an entry level position taking calls or something, didn't turn up for work on the first day because they were worried that actually working would take them off the dole and they'd lose all their benefits.
I'm sure that similar things happen in the US. And this is not a healthy attitude.
Don't get me wrong. I still refuse to even consider Romney as a candidate due to his horrible foreign policy and his broad generalizations. But I think there might be a grain of truth to his statement. Not to the extent that he advertised, but it's still an issue that should be addressed at some point.
47 percent of the American people, this asshole says, do not take personal responsibility for their lives.
Doubtlessly he is just trimming his sails to the wind, but what is his defense? Does he claim the quote was out of context? Nope, he said it "wasn't elegantly stated". He said that he won't back away from what they definitely mean.
Romney propagates a problem that effectively is none. The rich like to think that everyone who wants work can get it. The rich like to think that living on state welfare is a situation people like. And in the US to boot, where the social net is pretty inexistent to begin with.
Entirely false claims (says 47%, the reality is 1%) that he won't back away from, insults to half of the American people and a profound, visible disgust towards anyone who wasn't born with a golden spoon in his mouth.
Vote for that guy. Seriously, if this president can't remind you of what's wrong in this world, no one can.
Don't ask my opinion about politics, I have given up on it since our cabinet fell four times in four years. In fact, not one cabinet has served its four year since the start of 2000. So yeah, I'll be surprised if we manage to get somewhere near four years this time.
I think more than half are entitlement chasers. No offence intended to my fellow Americans here, but a WHOLE LOT of Americans I have met think they deserve everything they have and more and talk to staff as customers like so. These folks can't be helping the country, it's not a healthy attitude for any economy.
Yes, I am aware there are people like this in every first world country. It comes with people having life a little too easy. I just find that a disproportionate amount are within the United States.
I read an article about people on the dole in the UK who, when given an entry level position taking calls or something, didn't turn up for work on the first day because they were worried that actually working would take them off the dole and they'd lose all their benefits.
I'm sure that similar things happen in the US. And this is not a healthy attitude.
Don't get me wrong. I still refuse to even consider Romney as a candidate due to his horrible foreign policy and his broad generalizations. But I think there might be a grain of truth to his statement. Not to the extent that he advertised, but it's still an issue that should be addressed at some point.
Sure but the question is what percentage.
Because in the non paying tax filing American population, 40% of them are making less than 32,000 a year. 20% of them are making less then 16,000 a year. It would be gross exaggeration to say 62,000,000 people aren't looking for better work or are simply trying to get handouts.
Everyone is self interested and self directed, but it 's plain silliness to say the majority of them aren't willing to find better jobs because of 'taxes'. And not to play any life cards, but if you've lived in poverty, without heating or air condition or consistently good clothing, it's hard to imagine not wanting a better job and the better life that comes with it.
Sure but the question is what percentage.
Because in the non paying tax filing American population, 40% of them are making less than 32,000 a year. 20% of them are making less then 16,000 a year. It would be gross exaggeration to say 62,000,000 people aren't looking for better work or are simply trying to get handouts.
Everyone is self interested and self directed, but it 's plain silliness to say the majority of them aren't willing to find better jobs because of 'taxes'. And not to play any life cards, but if you've lived in poverty, without heating or air condition or consistently good clothing, it's hard to imagine not wanting a better job and the better life that comes with it.
Yeah, I doubt that the figure Romney is quoting is correct in the slightest. But I do know that my cousin teaches in a region in the boondocks of Texas where the goal of the average high school student is to graduate high school so they can go on welfare. Just like their parents did. We're talking multi-generation welfare here. I don't think the right choice is to cut welfare, because some people genuinely need it, but we need to be reaching out to these people to get a shift in attitude. Or something. I dunno. I'm not a organizer person.
I wasn't saying I agreed, I was just saying that most people would try to get something for nothing if they could.
Try rationalising an emotional distress lawsuit to someone who works 10hrs a day just to put food on the table and keep their family clothed and sheltered. You kind of seem like a douchbag at that point.
I see people mooching the system all the time. It's a problem here too. I know someone who was born with a condition that limits her intelligence. Now she isn't the stupidest person I know, but no, she can't spell worth shit. Her family mooched the system to get her declared handicapped and now she mooches the system too. While she couldn't be a physicist, she could easily work at mcdonalds or something with no problem...yet she doesnt because she doesnt have to. She sits on her ass at home and gets paid by the government.
Going back to the discussion on science and its compatibility with religion a few pages back...anytime I've tried discussion on this with a religious person they've always ignored the discussion and turned the discussion around on me about how evil and with the devil I am. Well the women always did that and got over emotional. Guys always just went "huh".
Going back to the discussion on science and its compatibility with religion a few pages back...anytime I've tried discussion on this with a religious person they've always ignored the discussion and turned the discussion around on me about how evil and with the devil I am. Well the women always did that and got over emotional. Guys always just went "huh".
You're evil and with the devil.
And I have pictures to prove it! Well... a picture. But still. Look how uncomfortable the devil looks!
Reports have surfaced that Pope Benedict XVI was tricked into blessing two porn actors who were dressed as priests while filming a new Bel Ami gay adult movie in Vatican City.
I know a few successful, rich people who have worked really, really hard to get where they are. They are proud of all the work and effort they've put in it, and they should be. They believe they deserve to get a good income because of all the work they're putting in, and all the work they have put in before, and I would tend to agree as well (to some extent. I don't think any job deserves to be paid thousands of dollars per hour, for instance. At that point, it's well past what you deserve and into "bonus money" territory).
But then the problem in their logic is when they start thinking "I've worked hard and I've made it. You just need to work hard and you'll make it".
No, that's not true. I wish it was, but it's not. For every person who works hard and makes it, there is someone out there who works just as hard and doesn't make it. For each person who studies hard a career that becomes in demand, there is one who gets their toughly-earned degree in a position that is simply removed and stops existing, and who is left with nothing, and one whose position is much less in demand that they (and apparently everyone else) thought it would be, and therefore has to fight 100 applicants for each position.
You worked hard and you made it, and you deserved it, and you should be proud. Yes. But there IS a certain amount of luck. There is, and you hate to admit it because you think it demeans the hard work you've put in. In an ideal world, everyone who works as hard as you would get the same results. In our world, though, only a portion do. And this portion doesn't see the part where they got lucky. So of course, they don't think other people got unlucky. They think other people got lazy.
There are aspects in life where hard work will always get you to reach your goals or get closer to them, and aspects where it won't. If you train hard, you'll get better and stronger. Doesn't mean you'll make the team. If you study hard, you'll get better skills. Doesn't mean you'll get the job.
When you are successful, and you see that your hard work brought you there, it seems common to have a disconnect, and forget how before you were successful, your hard work wasn't getting you anywhere. Who are you to say the other people have given up? They might be working as hard as you. They might not be working as smart as you, but that's another issue.
And that's an important one, too. Sometimes, a good degree in a specific field will mean you'll earn a lot of money further down the line. But sometimes, you need to earn some money right now, because there are people to feed (your siblings, your parents, your kids, yourself), and after you work two jobs and take care of the house, you don't have much time left for getting a degree. And so you're stuck there, in a dead end job or two that don't pay and won't allow for career evolution, and take away your ability to get a better job down the line. But to get yourself out of that situation, you'd need to take a first few steps in which other people might starve to death, and that's not really an option.
Some people manage to reduce their expenses enough that they can live on one job, get a student loan and study on the side. But not everyone can afford to do that.
When you're unemployed and on welfare, you get a sense that nothing will ever work. You can think of finding a job as your job, you can get up, go hand out resumes, you can then decide to learn a new skill (the Internet helps with that) and work on it for hours... But in the end if people don't hire you, they don't. I sent resumes to various stores, to fast-food chains, to everything I can thing of. Dropped by. Given them another resume when I didn't hear back. Nothing has come out of it. Of course at some point you get discouraged. Of course at some point you'd stop even trying.
"Getting new skills could help me get a career", you think to yourself. Great. Now which skills? The perfect skills to learn might be something you would never even have considered. There could be a career that's perfect for you and that you'll never find, and you know that, and that's a depressing thought.
Having the money to begin with helps. Doesn't mean you didn't work hard, but it means if you were lost, you could hire someone to tell you what a good move would be, or what to work hard at. That's more important than people seem to realise. A lot of effort can go to wast and result in nothing at all if you don't know how to channel it.
And that's an important one, too. Sometimes, a good degree in a specific field will mean you'll earn a lot of money further down the line. But sometimes, you need to earn some money right now, because there are people to feed (your siblings, your parents, your kids, yourself), and after you work two jobs and take care of the house, you don't have much time left for getting a degree.
This reminds me of The Pursuit of Happyness... should watch that movie again.
I find that people from wealthy families are often more willing to take risks as well. Open a bar and it doesn't work out? No worries, daddy will get you back on your feet, and there's the inheritance for your retirement insurance. Others have to worry about financial future planning all by themselves, so are less able/willing to risk a nest egg on a potentially profitable venture.
I have a lot of respect for people who come from wealthy backgrounds and actually bother to do something with their lives though.
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So, you are Irish.
We all do, Fawful, we all do.
Despite that, it was a pretty good weekend. Pictures and stuff after I've had some sleep.
More DISCIPLINE!! Now.
We need you in the front lines against those pesky TWD flamers. We can not ban the 2009ers.
Must work.
Must work.
I can't be a failure.
I must work.
I must wo
I mut wok
I mu
must work
I must work
argh I'm drooling on my keyboard but I can't sleep
I can't do anything but work
work is all that is important
hrauuurrrgh
My brother-in-law drinks way too much. He says he likes the taste of beer, but really it's like he drinks as much beer as my wife drinks Diet Dr. Pepper (which is a lot).
He doesn't get inebriated (or so it would appear to me) and isn't any more irritable than usual for drinking as much as he does but my observance that--if there were drinks of any kind made available at any given time, he would rather drink something with alcohol--suggests that he drinks too much.
I'm just saying, while we're on that topic. I'm not suggesting anything about you personally.
OK, you need to decide if these forums are:
Then take corrective action. There are possible forum usage patterns between "never" and "all the time."
Kill it with fire!
Freaking whinnie the pooh ripoff
On further inspection, I see it contains a "HIGH CLASS WEAPON". The question is, will be used on the bear or by the bear?
Nickelback or some marginally talented 16-26 singer corporate written BS out there. You know, things that make you suffer a fate worse than death.
That's these forums, plus the entire internet.
Wow, that is borderline nightmare fuel.
The weapon IS the bear. "Jimmy, you go to bed RIGHT NOW or you're gonna be sleeping with Demon Bear in your room."
Yup.
Actually, there's no way to know what he actually thinks. He was speaking to millionaire donor potentials when he said this, so at least we know that he knows they think this.
So the people with wealth and power in this country think they rest of us are all a bunch of freeloaders? That's nice to know.
I've said it for months now: There's no way Obama is going to lose this election.
Yes, I am aware there are people like this in every first world country. It comes with people having life a little too easy. I just find that a disproportionate amount are within the United States.
I'm sure that similar things happen in the US. And this is not a healthy attitude.
Don't get me wrong. I still refuse to even consider Romney as a candidate due to his horrible foreign policy and his broad generalizations. But I think there might be a grain of truth to his statement. Not to the extent that he advertised, but it's still an issue that should be addressed at some point.
*translation: "Your poverty disgusts me".
This discussion moves in a bogus direction. Romney's 47% are crap to begin with.
47 percent of the American people, this asshole says, do not take personal responsibility for their lives.
Doubtlessly he is just trimming his sails to the wind, but what is his defense? Does he claim the quote was out of context? Nope, he said it "wasn't elegantly stated". He said that he won't back away from what they definitely mean.
Romney propagates a problem that effectively is none. The rich like to think that everyone who wants work can get it. The rich like to think that living on state welfare is a situation people like. And in the US to boot, where the social net is pretty inexistent to begin with.
Entirely false claims (says 47%, the reality is 1%) that he won't back away from, insults to half of the American people and a profound, visible disgust towards anyone who wasn't born with a golden spoon in his mouth.
Vote for that guy. Seriously, if this president can't remind you of what's wrong in this world, no one can.
Sure but the question is what percentage.
Because in the non paying tax filing American population, 40% of them are making less than 32,000 a year. 20% of them are making less then 16,000 a year. It would be gross exaggeration to say 62,000,000 people aren't looking for better work or are simply trying to get handouts.
Everyone is self interested and self directed, but it 's plain silliness to say the majority of them aren't willing to find better jobs because of 'taxes'. And not to play any life cards, but if you've lived in poverty, without heating or air condition or consistently good clothing, it's hard to imagine not wanting a better job and the better life that comes with it.
On WWE 13 you can make your own title belts! I should make the TTG title! Obviously I am the raining TTG champion so I should make a belt for me!
Yeah, I doubt that the figure Romney is quoting is correct in the slightest. But I do know that my cousin teaches in a region in the boondocks of Texas where the goal of the average high school student is to graduate high school so they can go on welfare. Just like their parents did. We're talking multi-generation welfare here. I don't think the right choice is to cut welfare, because some people genuinely need it, but we need to be reaching out to these people to get a shift in attitude. Or something. I dunno. I'm not a organizer person.
Try rationalising an emotional distress lawsuit to someone who works 10hrs a day just to put food on the table and keep their family clothed and sheltered. You kind of seem like a douchbag at that point.
I see people mooching the system all the time. It's a problem here too. I know someone who was born with a condition that limits her intelligence. Now she isn't the stupidest person I know, but no, she can't spell worth shit. Her family mooched the system to get her declared handicapped and now she mooches the system too. While she couldn't be a physicist, she could easily work at mcdonalds or something with no problem...yet she doesnt because she doesnt have to. She sits on her ass at home and gets paid by the government.
You're evil and with the devil.
And I have pictures to prove it! Well... a picture. But still. Look how uncomfortable the devil looks!
Nono... I'm one of the hooded people in the upper left corner. Or are those rocks?
I would play life with you.
Well. Slightly underwhelming.
I know a few successful, rich people who have worked really, really hard to get where they are. They are proud of all the work and effort they've put in it, and they should be. They believe they deserve to get a good income because of all the work they're putting in, and all the work they have put in before, and I would tend to agree as well (to some extent. I don't think any job deserves to be paid thousands of dollars per hour, for instance. At that point, it's well past what you deserve and into "bonus money" territory).
But then the problem in their logic is when they start thinking "I've worked hard and I've made it. You just need to work hard and you'll make it".
No, that's not true. I wish it was, but it's not. For every person who works hard and makes it, there is someone out there who works just as hard and doesn't make it. For each person who studies hard a career that becomes in demand, there is one who gets their toughly-earned degree in a position that is simply removed and stops existing, and who is left with nothing, and one whose position is much less in demand that they (and apparently everyone else) thought it would be, and therefore has to fight 100 applicants for each position.
You worked hard and you made it, and you deserved it, and you should be proud. Yes. But there IS a certain amount of luck. There is, and you hate to admit it because you think it demeans the hard work you've put in. In an ideal world, everyone who works as hard as you would get the same results. In our world, though, only a portion do. And this portion doesn't see the part where they got lucky. So of course, they don't think other people got unlucky. They think other people got lazy.
There are aspects in life where hard work will always get you to reach your goals or get closer to them, and aspects where it won't. If you train hard, you'll get better and stronger. Doesn't mean you'll make the team. If you study hard, you'll get better skills. Doesn't mean you'll get the job.
When you are successful, and you see that your hard work brought you there, it seems common to have a disconnect, and forget how before you were successful, your hard work wasn't getting you anywhere. Who are you to say the other people have given up? They might be working as hard as you. They might not be working as smart as you, but that's another issue.
And that's an important one, too. Sometimes, a good degree in a specific field will mean you'll earn a lot of money further down the line. But sometimes, you need to earn some money right now, because there are people to feed (your siblings, your parents, your kids, yourself), and after you work two jobs and take care of the house, you don't have much time left for getting a degree. And so you're stuck there, in a dead end job or two that don't pay and won't allow for career evolution, and take away your ability to get a better job down the line. But to get yourself out of that situation, you'd need to take a first few steps in which other people might starve to death, and that's not really an option.
Some people manage to reduce their expenses enough that they can live on one job, get a student loan and study on the side. But not everyone can afford to do that.
When you're unemployed and on welfare, you get a sense that nothing will ever work. You can think of finding a job as your job, you can get up, go hand out resumes, you can then decide to learn a new skill (the Internet helps with that) and work on it for hours... But in the end if people don't hire you, they don't. I sent resumes to various stores, to fast-food chains, to everything I can thing of. Dropped by. Given them another resume when I didn't hear back. Nothing has come out of it. Of course at some point you get discouraged. Of course at some point you'd stop even trying.
"Getting new skills could help me get a career", you think to yourself. Great. Now which skills? The perfect skills to learn might be something you would never even have considered. There could be a career that's perfect for you and that you'll never find, and you know that, and that's a depressing thought.
Having the money to begin with helps. Doesn't mean you didn't work hard, but it means if you were lost, you could hire someone to tell you what a good move would be, or what to work hard at. That's more important than people seem to realise. A lot of effort can go to wast and result in nothing at all if you don't know how to channel it.
This reminds me of The Pursuit of Happyness... should watch that movie again.
I find that people from wealthy families are often more willing to take risks as well. Open a bar and it doesn't work out? No worries, daddy will get you back on your feet, and there's the inheritance for your retirement insurance. Others have to worry about financial future planning all by themselves, so are less able/willing to risk a nest egg on a potentially profitable venture.
I have a lot of respect for people who come from wealthy backgrounds and actually bother to do something with their lives though.