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Why was Luke so opposed to the idea of killing Carver? He was even shocked that Clem wanted him to shoot Carver.
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  • Because Luke's a pussy. Fortunately, godly Kenny stepped up and was a man about it.
  • Really? Was that necessary?

    Because Luke's a pussy. Fortunately, godly Kenny stepped up and was a man about it.

  • I kinda wish Clementine was the one to kill Carver
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    I don't think Luke had the balls or was just trying to be a better man than Carver and not stoop to his level. I was glad when Kenny mashed up his face with that crowbar though and I took pleasure in watching that evil bastard bite the dust.
    Kenny has no eye, Carver has no face.
  • They were banging.
  • edited May 2014
    Luke didn't want to kill him because he's suppose to represent the stable and civilized side of Clem. In contrast, Kenny represents how the current world has affected her. TWD has always been a balance of civility and whether if civility can still exist in the world they live in. Look at the bigger picture. Besides, there's also the subplot that concerns Kenny's mental stability. You can't have the other major character act the same way.
  • Because Luke still holds on to his humanity instead of giving in to bloodlust. Killing people changes you, and the more you kill the more accustomed you are to it until you get to the point where every answer to a question involves killing.
  • Because Luke wasn't upto the task of smashing a fucker's face to the point where the face isn't there anymore.
  • Yes

    Really? Was that necessary?

  • I think he just didn't want to see Carver annihilated like whatever I assume happened to him after I left with Sarita. Yes, I left. I wasn't giving that bastard the satisfaction of seeing Clem stay and prove his point about her being just like him.
  • Luke is a Jedi, Therefore do not kill their enemies
  • "Luke, I am your father."

    That is all.
  • Luke seems to have morals. To me thro Carver killed and hurt a lot of people. If he was left alive (I don't think that is possible) he would hunt down Clementine and the rest of her group no matter what. Making that choice was a no brainer to me, Carver hurt a lot of people he should be punish for that.

    I was more disturbed that it seem that Clementine wanted to watch Kenny thro....but I guess that she wanted Kenny to stop or something like that. I don't know it wasn't clear.
  • Nobody can know.
    Incorporeal posted: »

    They were banging.

  • Some people are morally and ethically opposed to murder. Kenny sees it as something that just is and has no qualms with it. Having zombies bang on your front door and seeing if you can still live up to your standards is one of the major themes of The Walking Dead. There is no doubt a situation in which Luke would kill a man, but I'd say it wasn't this one.
  • I agree,we needed our tlou moment of killing carver with Luke's machete and all that fun stuff
    SilentmanX posted: »

    I kinda wish Clementine was the one to kill Carver

  • Luke is ultimately a good guy. He tries to do what he thinks is best, as Kenny also did. Luke, I think, still has a shred of innocence and compassion left within him. Kenny has lost that, making him see the world differently. That is the horror and beauty of this zombie infested world, both sides can by right and wrong.
  • Remember this is the guy who was appalled at the idea of shooting a dog who bit you, haha. I guess it was to be expected. I love Luke, but he's no Kenny when it comes to making the, uh... 'not nice' decisions.
  • Exactly.

    Because Luke's a pussy. Fortunately, godly Kenny stepped up and was a man about it.

  • Yes, it was.

    Really? Was that necessary?

  • Yes, that's how it's supposed to be in a post apocalyptic world.
    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Because Luke still holds on to his humanity instead of giving in to bloodlust. Killing people changes you, and the more you kill the more accustomed you are to it until you get to the point where every answer to a question involves killing.

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    Rock114 posted: »

    I think he just didn't want to see Carver annihilated like whatever I assume happened to him after I left with Sarita. Yes, I left. I wasn't giving that bastard the satisfaction of seeing Clem stay and prove his point about her being just like him.

  • Killing him is what Carver would have done, and even encouraged. Luke is the anti-Carver.
  • You know what? Now that I think about it, Luke is the anti-Carver. Luke believes killing anything but lurkers is wrong while Carver is willing to kill anybody when he thinks it's right. Luke was willing to leave people behind to escape while Carver hunts people that stray away from his flock. Carver is trying to corrupt Clem while Luke is trying to make Clem be more moral. There's more examples to this.

    Killing him is what Carver would have done, and even encouraged. Luke is the anti-Carver.

  • That's a really interesting point! I like the idea of Kenny representing (for lack of better terms) Clem's dark side and Luke representing her light side.

    Luke didn't want to kill him because he's suppose to represent the stable and civilized side of Clem. In contrast, Kenny represents how the

  • And Kenny seems to represent vengeance.

    You know what? Now that I think about it, Luke is the anti-Carver. Luke believes killing anything but lurkers is wrong while Carver is willi

  • Luke looked alot like Carver
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    Actually Luke didn't want to do it himself but deep inside he knew it was the thing to do, Carver already travelled god-knows-how-many miles to find them, why wouldn't he do that twice ? He was probably extremely conflicted about it (you can see it if you stay silent).

    And then Kenny stepped up, and did what had to be done. I'm pretty sure everyone is relieved he did it even though some of them still think it was pretty "evil". If Kenny didn't do it I'd have done it either way given the choice, ain't no way I'm letting this kind of guy free. I expected Kenny to let him get eaten by walkers at first when he shot both his legs though.
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    I stayed to watch, not to enjoy it, but to accept the consequences of his death. Eddard Stark style: except im not the one swinging the sword.
  • It's his Achilles Heel showing it's ugly head again. Indecisiveness. I like to think he knew what needed to be done but feared what would happen to him if he went down that slippery slope. In retrospect, this situation has interesting implications for the Matthew encounter. If Clem doubts Luke's reassurance that Matthew isn't likely to shoot at a child, he says he'll shoot him if it comes down to it. Now I have to wonder at the sincerity of that statement.
  • edited May 2014
    I still believe that he would've shot Matthew by instinct if he tried to shoot Clem. Luke is just opposed to killing Carver in a brutal way when he's defenseless.
    Night_Owl posted: »

    It's his Achilles Heel showing it's ugly head again. Indecisiveness. I like to think he knew what needed to be done but feared what would ha

  • Yes, and I like Kenny more than before now.

    And Kenny seems to represent vengeance.

  • edited May 2014
    Don't know why they didn't put that option. Hell its actually even possible for Clem to kill Carver

    Had Alvin died in episode 2, In episode 3 Clem found a small gun in Carver's office. When you return to the group you have the option of jumping on or shoot him. Clem would have used that gun and kill Carver on the spot

    I agree,we needed our tlou moment of killing carver with Luke's machete and all that fun stuff

  • Nope, she shoots him in the neck/shoulder and cue the scene where Kenny punches and Luke gets gun.
    SilentmanX posted: »

    Don't know why they didn't put that option. Hell its actually even possible for Clem to kill Carver Had Alvin died in episode 2, In epi

  • now i want to draw a picture of clem with shoulder angel luke and devil Carver :I
    xD

    You know what? Now that I think about it, Luke is the anti-Carver. Luke believes killing anything but lurkers is wrong while Carver is willi

  • I wish it was just about the brutality of beating a man to death but if Clem suggests tying him up Luke will jump at the opportunity to avoid killing him. It both fascinates and worries me that he might've managed to go all this time without killing a normal human being (like Matthew and Walter). It is possible that he's killed before and that's left such an impression on him that he's terrified of doing it again. Honestly, I'd prefer if it was the latter case as he might have an easier time getting over it.

    I still believe that he would've shot Matthew by instinct if he tried to shoot Clem. Luke is just opposed to killing Carver in a brutal way when he's defenseless.

  • edited May 2014
    If you haven't noticed, Luke hasn't killed a single person yet. Only walkers, while everyone else, has either killed someone or allowed it.
    Clem killed Stranger, Nick killed Matt, Alvin killed George, etc.

    Maybe he is just too soft. Noble that he won't kill, but it will mean his doom in the long run.
  • Well, Kenny loves murdering people in gruesome fashions when they can't defend themselves. That's for sure.

    Because Luke's a pussy. Fortunately, godly Kenny stepped up and was a man about it.

  • edited May 2014
    Well, Clem technically didn't kill the stranger. That was all the walkers, but she definitely got the assist.
    cameroncr95 posted: »

    If you haven't noticed, Luke hasn't killed a single person yet. Only walkers, while everyone else, has either killed someone or allowed it.

  • He doesn't believe in violence. He's waiting until marriage.
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