How Clem CAN work as the Season 3 protagonist

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  • Like your idea quite a bit. And the thing is, it's not an impossibility for the name of the character to stick for the entire game. Telltale already tried this out with Back to the Future. Marty was able to pick a name (I don't remember most of them but I'd usually pick Harry Callahan) while he was in 1931. And for the most part, it sticked with him the entire game. It was actually one of their earliest attempts at trying out the choice-making mechanic in a Telltale game since it would carry over in future episodes. It was occasionally glitchy though, there was the few occasions I was called something else.

    Cinicage posted: »

    I really like this idea, I even put out my own idea which was similar to this one in a thread about Season 3 protagonists. Before you read,

  • Yeah. a big timeskip would be bad. but a smaller timeskip could serve, She might already be a teenager, maybe 15/16 yo.

    Gunab posted: »

    I guess it depends on where the story is at at the end of Ep5. But right now a big timeskip would just feel wrong.

  • Thank you, first of all, and that's exactly what I mean. If you, say, chose to name the baby Lee (which I probably will if it's an option), his name will be Lee in your playthrough of Season 3. If you choose to name him Kenny Jr. or something, it will be that.

    CathalOHara posted: »

    Like your idea quite a bit. And the thing is, it's not an impossibility for the name of the character to stick for the entire game. Telltale

  • Would be pretty nice if you can name him Ed too (after Clem's father) but I'd probably end up naming him Lee also.

    Cinicage posted: »

    Thank you, first of all, and that's exactly what I mean. If you, say, chose to name the baby Lee (which I probably will if it's an option),

  • This argument is why I think Christa could be a good choice for the protagonist of Season 3 following a time-skip. She'd be an able-bodied caretaker for both a toddler and a companion for an adolescent, but would be somewhat alienated from Clementine because of her personality change in Season 2. Understanding that teenage Clementine now has her own autonomy would be cemented by having her viewed once more from the perspective of a companion.

    Plus I just like the idea of a mother/adoptive-daughter relationship being explored.

    On the topic of a teenaged Clementine, remember that Michelle seems to be an indication of what Clem could be like if she were to remain 'tough'. I'll be sad if playing her as a cold-hearted person in Season 2 will make her a selfish bully as well.

  • I have bin saying that since the start of all the talking about season3 i want clementine as protagonist because of all the development we had made as lee and as clementine a new protagonist means season 1 and 2 pointless it'll kill this game

  • Well said, good post. I absolutely agree. Its Clem's story and therefore we should continue playing as her next season. I have really enjoyed playing as her.

  • edited July 2014

    Maybe not. Not only humans must be a threat to Wellington. It could be attacked by a herd of hungry animals or a disease or maybe even mother nature. I was simply talking about every major event that could somehow endanger Wellington or even destroy it. In any case Clementine after a long time would be forced to survive again, (based on the story) she would either leave Wellington because it could be too dangerous to be there or try to help people there and make it better again.

    xWally posted: »

    That's a good idea we can have a villan like Negan in the comics and he attacks Wellington

  • It can't just be Clementine and the baby. I'm sorry, but one person and a baby aren't going to make it in the zombie world.

  • I'm not that interested in playing as Clem in S3 and i definitely don't want another time skip. 16 months is long, a few years? Fuck that. Clem is a good character, no doubt about it, she's just not that interesting to me to skip a few years just for her development.

    TWD is no one's story other than the players. The story is tailored by how you play It's not Clem's story, it's YOUR story. I wouldn't mind playing as Jane, Mike, Molly, Kenny, Luke, even if it was fucking Ben. I would love that! It doesn't have to be a new character, just someone different is what i want.

    The Walking Dead- Season Two: All About Ben. Everything that happened from 104 to 105 that includes Ben is now Non-Canon. Everyone is "dead" it's just Ben, the Liability. Play as Ben and you decide who you trust and you try to pull your weight and don't screw up like you did previously in S1. As Ben, you tend to think about your family. The Two Shadows on the hill turn out to be Ben's Dad and his little Sister. They tell you about their past and how Ben's Mom died. You try to survive, you run into Kenny, Sarita, and Clem who have been staying with Matthew and Walter. Kenny threatens Ben, but you get the option to let Clem talk him down or to punch him in his fat mustache.

    I don't know about anyone else, but playing as Ben seems awesome. Yet another missed opportunity missed. :(

    I don't care if it's Clem or a new character, fuck it could be Maybelle and you wouldn't see me complaining. I just don't want better opportunity's to go by.

  • I'm only okay with playing Clem if I'm not stuck with the baby! Being stuck alone with the baby is just a burden to me and I feel like I would be very annoyed especially because I don't want a giant time skip and Clem is only 11 and an only child who seems to have completely forgotten about Christa's baby.

  • Really? How could you? No, I mean it serious. I couldn't. It may sound stupid, but by now, it's my Clem. In the first Season, you are a Father-Figure for her, you have a big influence in her personality, you protect her and have a deep connection to her. In Season 2, you play her, you are Clem, you act as Clem, you feel as Clem, you make the decisions for Clem. My Clem may be different than yours, do things differently, say things differently. She may be scared, silent or brave. It's up to the player. How then can we suddenly find her and have no control over her in Season 3? How stupid would it be for a player to speak with her and suddenly she has a completely different personality then how you played her in Season 2? And after Season 1 and 2, I doubt a new Protagonist could create a deep Bond with her, and me and many other, I am sure the Majority, would hate having her as a boring standard NPC.

    So no, IF Season 3 should have a new Protagonist, it would have to be without Clem, and a TT's TWD without Clem... Nah, wouldn't work :D .

  • OMG, how I hate people like you. Not because you stated your Opinion, even if I don't agree with it, I respect it, but because you are one of those that just because they know they have an unpopular opinion, they begin hating on the votes because they are afraid of downvotes...

    I can't believe people still don't get the purpose of Votes... They are there to show people if you AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT. That's the purpose. You stated you Opinion, I don't agree with you, and to show you and other that I downvoted your post. That's it. That's the function of Votes.

    I mean, seriously, what do people like you think the purpose of votes are? To look pretty? Why, just why? And why do you care so much that you get downvoted? Do you have such a low self esteem?

    I loved season 2 and would buy season 3 if Clem is protagonist but i would much rather have a new protagonist to get to learn and care about

  • Well in Season 3:

    In order for Season 1 decisions to matter, someone or some people from the original group need to appear in Season 3.

    In order for 400 Days DLC to matter, someone or some people from the DLC need to appear in Season 3.

    In order for Season 2 decisions to matter, someone or some people from the new group need to appear in Season 3.

    So far, Clementine is the best choice for another playable characters, in my opinion at least.

  • I like the way you're thinking Doc.

    TTG should just call the series Clementine: Lady of the Apocolypse.

  • As much as I like Clem, I believe we're due for a new role. Either TTG will switch it up, or the series itself dies, after Clem dies. That, or making it to a time where there's a cure for the whole zombie epidemic.

  • I agree. I don't see the point in having season 1 with Clem and season 2 playing as Clem. Just for her to not appear in the 3rd season. It would seem pointless making all these choices and witnessing all these events just for season 3 to have a new character.

    Tewudin posted: »

    I agree with you. I can't see her as someone else than protagonist because everyone played in diffrent ways. Some players loved sassy Clem,

  • Yeah but if Clem left the character you was playing as, You might not like Clem as much.

    Pride posted: »

    Maybe if they don't want Clem as the protagonist, we could be a new group member of sorts that joins her group two years after the end of Se

  • But that would break Kirkman's rule of no cures and TTG (I guess) is trying to keep it in his Universe.

    As much as I like Clem, I believe we're due for a new role. Either TTG will switch it up, or the series itself dies, after Clem dies. That, or making it to a time where there's a cure for the whole zombie epidemic.

  • edited July 2014

    Yeah. Kirkman said that there won't be any cure. Probably. I mean he said that in The Walking Dead it's not about finding a cure. It's about people - how they will deal with the end of the world, new reality, their efforts to survive every day etc. There won't be any cure just like we'll never find out what was the cause of infection.

    Telltale can't also do time skip beyond timeline of comics. It's like 4-5 years after walkers came and Telltale Games can't just make time skip right now with the season taking place more then 4-5 years since start of the outbreak. Even if they'll do any skip it can't be more then a year or 2.

    Conduit42 posted: »

    But that would break Kirkman's rule of no cures and TTG (I guess) is trying to keep it in his Universe.

  • Yeah before s2 started I was a bit worried at playing as Clem but now I really don't want to play as anyone else. If s3 is going to be about Clem again and I hope it is I don't want to much of a time skip. 1 or 2 months tops. The reason I don't want a time skip is because I want to know what happened to Clem and Crista from the bathroom to the camp.

    If TT do make us a new playable character then I want it to be someone new. I wouldn't want Clem just following me around like s1.

  • "Macon group". Oh god. Is it too early to get nostalgic?

  • edited July 2014

    If you raised your Clem to be distrustful or an extreme survivalist you'd be the only one to blame for her behavior.

    Like I said as an example, if the new main character got a leg busted or something in the middle of a fight, depending on how you raised Clem she could just leave you behind to fend for yourself instead of coming back to help you. Some people might not like her attitude, but guess what, you're the one that made her this way in Season two. It would be a cool way for players to see how their choices affected her in the future.

    RobSolo posted: »

    Yeah but if Clem left the character you was playing as, You might not like Clem as much.

  • edited July 2014

    They just need to make her more confident. Playing as Clem right now feels like a bit of a chore because she's so hesitant and unsure of herself, unless you pick the dickish options. And it makes sense as to why. She's an 11 year old kid talking to a bunch of adults. She's also miserable and super depressed and that doesn't give her dialogue the sweetness it had before.

    So my advice to Telltale would be to end this season on a happy note that gives Clem about a year or two of relative peace and happiness with some genuinely friendly people. Make her remember what being a normal person is like. Make her happy and appreciative of life. Then have her face a brand new litany of pain and sorrow.

  • I'd prefer to play as Clem again, but older by a year or two. If they give us a new protagonist I'll still play because I really enjoy this series. It just wouldn't be ideal.

  • I can see civilization returning once again, as people have finally readjusted to the concept of death leading to mindless undeath. It may take a decade, but I can see Clem thriving in the new world.

    Tewudin posted: »

    Yeah. Kirkman said that there won't be any cure. Probably. I mean he said that in The Walking Dead it's not about finding a cure. It's about

  • Yeah. If some of people will survive long enough then walkers will gone but not permanently. Sooner or later there could be another outbreak. In any case there won't be a civilization like it was before. Nothing will be the same. I bet there won't be even any countries anymore. Just communities with teritories around safe zones and lots of no man's land.

    Bokor posted: »

    I can see civilization returning once again, as people have finally readjusted to the concept of death leading to mindless undeath. It may take a decade, but I can see Clem thriving in the new world.

  • No not exactly, it is odd to think the first Season started over two years ago though. Time went by fast.

    "Macon group". Oh god. Is it too early to get nostalgic?

  • edited July 2014

    Calm down there no need to get mad but i agree I shouldn't have done that and im sorry

    OMG, how I hate people like you. Not because you stated your Opinion, even if I don't agree with it, I respect it, but because you are one o

  • I'm not sure why people want to play as Clem again
    Season 1 we played as Lee, Season 2 as Clem why do people keep saying The Walking Dead is her story?
    I would even conside the first two seasons to be part 1 of The Walking Dead Game Series
    and with Season 3 a fresh start with new characters and no baggage from the Maicon group
    I want to be one of the leaders again and not some child
    I love Clem but I think her story needs to come to an end though judging from these many Clem Fans I don't think it will come to
    that

  • edited July 2014

    Have you seen my topic "Too ahead but....who will be the new protagonist in new season?" @CathalOHara.

    And I agree with that.

    The link of the topic

    https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/77374/too-ahead-but-who-would-be-the-new-protagonist-in-the-new-season/new

  • That would be interesting!

    Pride posted: »

    If you raised your Clem to be distrustful or an extreme survivalist you'd be the only one to blame for her behavior. Like I said as an ex

  • Yeah I have, I posted in it a couple of times actually.

    scoutpred posted: »

    Have you seen my topic "Too ahead but....who will be the new protagonist in new season?" @CathalOHara. And I agree with that. The link

  • Having her and the baby reunite with Christa at Wellington would be a good way to do that. Hell, I wish Sarah remained alive so that Clem could have regained her appreciation for life.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    They just need to make her more confident. Playing as Clem right now feels like a bit of a chore because she's so hesitant and unsure of her

  • edited July 2014

    Eh, I'm not sure having Clem interact with an even more depressed kid would have done much to help her appreciate life.

    What Clem really needs is a counselor. Someone who has faced a lot of emotional hardship in their life and, crucially, learned how to overcome them and embrace life despite all its sorrows. Lee could have been this person for Clem in the first season, but so far in Season 2, this role has been unfilled. I originally thought Luke was going to be this for her but that quickly fizzled out. Then Walter gave her a bit of advice in this area but he was too much of an idealist and wasn't in it for very long. Now Bonnie and Mike seem like good candidates but who knows if they'll even make it past the opening scene of episode 5. The girl really needs some emotional stability in her life from someone other than herself.

    Bokor posted: »

    Having her and the baby reunite with Christa at Wellington would be a good way to do that. Hell, I wish Sarah remained alive so that Clem could have regained her appreciation for life.

  • TeenageClementineForSeason3

  • On Season 3 i see only Clementine, i can not imagine if i don't see Clem as the main character. Clem and ONLY Clem.

  • As far as I'm concerned, Telltale's TWD is Clementine's story now. It wouldn't feel right playing anyone else.

  • But i dont want to see Clem adult, 13 years old is i think top limit.

  • edited August 2014

    Comics are canon for the game so in that moment they probably can't make more then 2 years timeskip. At least at this point, I think. It means Clementine in season 3 could be still 11 years old or 12-13 years old. Of course if she'll be in season 3 which I hope will happen.

    kichacz posted: »

    But i dont want to see Clem adult, 13 years old is i think top limit.

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