How does that qualify him to be a douche.
A douche is a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself.
I wouldn't be happy either way, I like Jane even though she is damaged goods. But everybody is an emotional wreck during the zombie apocalypse.
I won't lie, a large part of me doesn't want a happy ending to TWD S2
To be perfectly honest, you make me want to shoot Kenny to make sure he does not come back for season 3.
I make you want to shoot Ke… morenny?
Why?
I am Kenny Fan, I can posting what I want.
And you can not tell me something, that I make you want to shoot Kenny.
You can say what you feel or think for Jane, but but not to be angry that I write about what I am think about Kenny and Jane.
Team Kenny! (:
Forever Kenny and Clementine!
Ended up disliking Jane at the end of ep 5.
That bitch is crazy.
Who the feck does such a thing, act like the baby is dead just to get someone like Kenny to go nuts? Anyone would do the same as Kenny o_O
Gonna play through s2 again and let Kenny kill Jane.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence. Had she been wrong about Kenny - had he not been a hotheaded violent crazy person - her plan falls apart, and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
That's how it could have gone down! But Kenny acted precisely as predicted, proving Jane's point and proving the virtue of her plan (albeit extreme).
Jane wasn't planning violence - but she was 100% prepared for violence. There's a distinct difference.
Kenny: I fucking kill you!
… more Jane: I knew you would.
Also, did you seriously think she didn´t plan of getting, when she knew how Kenny could think and react? Seriously?
He could then use this opening to either make good on his promise to Clementine (at least my Clem, not sure if it changes) of trying to mend his exceedingly violent and scary ways - aka attempt to talk it out, find out what happened etc. - or he could simply fly off the handle in that special Kenny way, which for whatever reason some people seem to love.
Lol, nope. She wanted to leave him a opening he could exploit, because if there was no figth she couldn´t kill him.
Ended up disliking Jane at the end of ep 5.
That bitch is crazy.
Who the feck does such a thing, act like the baby is dead just to get som… moreeone like Kenny to go nuts? Anyone would do the same as Kenny o_O
Gonna play through s2 again and let Kenny kill Jane.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence.
You should realize, that she is the instigator of thewhole mess.
a hotheaded violent crazy person
Sure.
Whatever.
and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
But he is not a danger to Clementine. Jane is just so obssesed she made her plan, thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week. Her whole plan was fucking stupid, but her reasons were even more stupid.
proving Jane's point
That Kenny is violent?
Yes.
That Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
proving the virtue of her plan
Her plan to fake a baby´s death to kill Kenny is full of virtue, of course.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence. Had she been wrong about Kenny - had he not been a hothe… moreaded violent crazy person - her plan falls apart, and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
That's how it could have gone down! But Kenny acted precisely as predicted, proving Jane's point and proving the virtue of her plan (albeit extreme).
No..he really IS right, though....the fact that you think Jane didn't put that baby in harm shows your lack of intelligence...like the guy above said and in addition to - what if jane does die? guess jane didn't think about that. Cause once she's dead, WHO IS TO TELL ANYONE WHERE THE BABY IS HIDDEN???? how about that? CONVENIENT that they heard the baby cried. but it's crystal CLEAR jane only cared about herself and not the baby's well-being..her actions are sick and twisted. but everything she did up to that point was sick and twisted too, so we should already know this and let Kenny kill her (lets her sister die, lets sarah die (doesn't care), tells clem she's going to die and to ditch her group, shoots a guys dick off and lets him get eatin alive (doesn't matter that the guy was a jerk - that is just sociopathic right there). all you jane defenders lose all creditability...because in the end, telltale SHOWS us that Kenny cared about clem and the baby all along...and sacrifices himself so the kids can stay at wellington. that selfish bitch jane would have said, "if I can't go you shouldn't either clem!"
So carrying a baby through a snowstorm that blinds you is better? And what if a walker grabs you? And what if you fall and smother the baby?… more And what if the baby dies from the coldness? The list could go on and on. I don't know what you're talking about but putting the baby in the car is actually safer than carrying him outside. Also the car was close to them.
Even if Jane and Kenny survived in Season 3 and this time she lost the baby to the walkers while running away in some big trap saying the ba… moreby got bit by the walkers by accident not on purpose, it wasn't Jane's fault now.. It would've ended up the same fate. I'd rather take a lone she-wolf than raging asshole anyday.
You are not even making sense. Its a game with multiple choice dialog options and you're claiming I didn't do a good enough job to be frien… moreds with Kenn?
Saved Duck and ignore Herschel's son? Check; Sided with him to kill Larry? Check; sided with him about leaving the motor inn? Check; Sided with him about leaving Ben? Check; Shooting Duck so he wouldn't have to? Check; talking him down instead of fighting him in the train? Check........... Please enlighten me. What did I do wrong? Because despite all that he says "What have you done for me lately?" and "You know Lee, I ask myself if it were my family in trouble and I needed your help would you be there? and I think you sure haven't lately"
Gosh with everything I've done for him... Its so CLEARLY my fault!
"You seemed to forget when Jane was about to shoot innocent Arvo on the deck, until you stopped her! Then she puts a gun to his head and threatens him"
So running on ice, which clearly was not thick enough, and going to edge of hole in the ice and pulling Clem to the surface, and then carryi… moreng her (increasing the weight, thus making it more dangerous) on the ice which could collapse at any moment isnt risking your own life?
As a kid, i spent a lot of time playing around with thin ice with my friends in local small lake or swamps, and i can tell you that trying to lift your friend from side of a hole can easily cause it to break even more and make you fall to the water also.
Kenny was so blinded by anger, that he didnt care about Clementine freezing to death.
If the group wasnt there to stop him and Lee didnt murder Ben as Kenny wanted, Ben gets a chance to prove himself and as Kenny calms down from his bloodlust, and thinks more clearly. And this is the main problem with Kenny, he acts on rage and doesnt think clearly and if there isnt someone to stop him from doing something stupid, he will do it.
Jane was the main reason Arvo shot her because when you see him for the second time he tells his group that it was you who robbed him ( whet… moreher you actually did or not) then you say that it was Jane and said she left. Then she comes back and kills one of his friends which make it seem like you were lying and that's why he's mad at you not because of Kenny.
At the lodge When I told Kenny to stop, he listened to me because when he is not right and you can give him a good reason then he stops and listens to you!
Because he is the one that caused Luke's death and Clem falling in. If Arvo can get away with something like that then he would do it again. If Kenny hadn't beaten him up he probably would have shot and killed Clementine. He was afraid of what Kenny would do to him if he had killed her and just wounded her instead!
"You seemed to forget when Jane was about to shoot innocent Arvo on the deck, until you stopped her! Then she puts a gun to his head and threatens him"
ALL jane lovers just got OWNED
Yeah, let Kenny kill Jane.
Stupid Jane! That's sad when Kenny dying for a lie.
Kenny is a friend, a family member of Clementine.
Forever Kenny and Clementine.
You know, I was willing to give her a chance 'till the end. She lied, manipulated Clem and got the last friend/protector she had killed. So yeah, fuck The Stra- I mean, Jane.
Oh, Kenny is such a great guy. Let's see.....in season 1 when you can choose to save Duck or Hershel's son, no matter what you pick, Kenny does not come back to help you. Kenny is automatically an asshole upon going into the store/pharmacy. Always arguing with Lily. Kills her father, without letting Lee and Lily try to revive him first. Knows his son is dying but instead of spending what time Duck does have with his wife and son, he decides to distance himself from them and "drive" the train. He doesn't want Lee to help Ben, just let him die. Then he gets the boat suggestion and that is all he wants, he doesn't listen anyone else's ideas.
Season 2 besides from not liking Luke,Nick, Jane and Mike at the very start, he also is an asshole to Clem if you do not agree with him all the time. He snaps then later it is all "Oh Clem, I'm sorry." He went off the deep end in season 1 and continued to slide and be a jerk in season 2. I was glad when I was able to put him down.
that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for les[s] tha[n] a week.
Is that we're never given a choice in this as players. It was something that bugged me throughout the season - ever since Kenny popped back up. We're not allowed any say in how Clementine feels about Kenny, and it really spoils parts of the game. My Lee never liked Kenny - and Kenny sure as hell never liked my Lee. It would stand to reason that Clementine - seeing Lee as her father figure - wouldn't exactly be filled with warmth towards Kenny, especially as he ditched Lee and didn't join in the rescue mission. Yet we're never given a choice in the matter. Jane didn't know better than Clem, but Jane knew exactly the same as Clem (should have reasonably known in my view) - and were there a choice to say "fuck off" to Kenny at any point earlier, I would've taken it.
Kenny was a danger to everyone around him - including Clementine. At first it might be a passive or second hand danger. He's dangerous because he does things without thinking through the consequences and some times these consequences are bad - hitting not Kenny, but those around him. But as the season progresses he becomes more actively dangerous, more needlessly violent towards those around him, more abusive in his language, and generally a much bigger douche (impossible as it might seem).
Also Jane's point isn't simply to show that Kenny is violent, in the sense capable of violence, it is to show that he is unstable and violent, quick to resort to harsh physical violence. Had he been even slightly less unstable he would have asked - as he bloody well should have - what exactly happened, how it happened. He would've understood that it could take a little time for a (supposedly) shaken up Jane to spill the beans.
Instead he runs out into the snow, doesn't find the baby within the first 20 yards, then drops any pretence of discussion or justice or fairness or finding out the truth. He simply resorts to violence, because that's all he knows how to do.
Her plan to fake a baby´s death to kill Kenny is full of virtue, of course.
Fine - the merit of her plan then.
Had I been able to ditch Kenny earlier - and had the choice therefore been between Jane and some other character - I might have reacted differently. But since I felt Kenny was forced upon me so utterly, I had and have no problem with Jane's plan.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence.
You should realize, that she is the instigator o… moref thewhole mess.
a hotheaded violent crazy person
Sure.
Whatever.
and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
But he is not a danger to Clementine. Jane is just so obssesed she made her plan, thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week. Her whole plan was fucking stupid, but her reasons were even more stupid.
proving Jane's point
That Kenny is violent?
Yes.
That Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
proving the virtue of her plan
Her plan to fake a baby´s death to kill Kenny is full of virtue, of course.
Whatever.
He's not a danger to Clem now. But who knows what could happen later on. I'm sure Kenny would go crazy trying to take of Aj. Taking care of a baby ain't easy. Imagine trying to do it in an with zombies around.
"That Kenny is violent?" Yes Kenny is violent. Did you not see him beat up a crippled kid? Did you not see him attack Jane? The man is dangerous.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence.
You should realize, that she is the instigator o… moref thewhole mess.
a hotheaded violent crazy person
Sure.
Whatever.
and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
But he is not a danger to Clementine. Jane is just so obssesed she made her plan, thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week. Her whole plan was fucking stupid, but her reasons were even more stupid.
proving Jane's point
That Kenny is violent?
Yes.
That Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
proving the virtue of her plan
Her plan to fake a baby´s death to kill Kenny is full of virtue, of course.
Whatever.
The problem is that you missed that I put a (determinantly) in there, you know. thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week
including Clementine.
I call bullshit, sir. Because is bullshit.
. He's dangerous because he does things without thinking through the consequences and some times these consequences are bad
What? The rambo your way out of the truck thing? Yes, that was stupid. And looking for Wellington? Nope, dude. That was the best chance anyone-not just AJ- had of surviving, and he took it.
he is unstable
He is not unstable. Leaving aside that is stupid to call him unstable for being pushed over the edge. Could he have reacted better? Yes, of course, but it was Jane there, not anybody else. Kenny doesn´t trust her. He has no reason to trust her.
he would have asked - as he bloody well should have -
Jane: He is...
Clem: (One of her tree dialogue choices or silence)
Kenny: What are you saying? What do you mean?... No, no, no.
violent,
Not to the people he cares about.
then drops any pretence of discussion or justice or fairness or finding out the truth. He simply resorts to violence, because that's all he knows how to do.
He thougth Jane had killed AJ. That´s a very justifiable response. Besides, Jane was acting very weird in that scene, is easy to notice and Kenny did.
Fine - the merit of her plan then.
Nope.
Did it prove Kenny violent?
Yes.
Did it prove Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
Besides, you are forgetting that, if all she wanted was to prove her point, she could have stopped the figth by running to the car. She wanted to kill him for the begging.
But since I felt Kenny was forced upon me so utterly, I had and have no problem with Jane's plan.
Seriously? Even if you hate Kenny, you should realize that pouring salt into a broken man´s wound is fucked up, and she had no rigth to do it.
The problem with saying this:
that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for les[s] tha[n] a week.
Is that we're … morenever given a choice in this as players. It was something that bugged me throughout the season - ever since Kenny popped back up. We're not allowed any say in how Clementine feels about Kenny, and it really spoils parts of the game. My Lee never liked Kenny - and Kenny sure as hell never liked my Lee. It would stand to reason that Clementine - seeing Lee as her father figure - wouldn't exactly be filled with warmth towards Kenny, especially as he ditched Lee and didn't join in the rescue mission. Yet we're never given a choice in the matter. Jane didn't know better than Clem, but Jane knew exactly the same as Clem (should have reasonably known in my view) - and were there a choice to say "fuck off" to Kenny at any point earlier, I would've taken it.
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He's not a danger to Clem now. But who knows what could happen later on.
This is you saying: I can´t make proper arguments so I will spit out baseless shit.
I'm sure Kenny would go crazy trying to take of Aj.
dafuq? Are you serious? First of all, if Clem stays am Wellington he doesn´t have to take care of AJ, because AJ is with Clem. Second, if you leave with Kenny he has Clem to help him take care of AJ.
Taking care of a baby ain't easy. Imagine trying to do it in an with zombies around.
And? Does this mean Kenny is going to snap?
Spoiler alert: nope, nope.
Yes Kenny is violent. Did you not see him beat up a crippled kid? Did you not see him attack Jane? The man is dangerous.
First of all, Kenny is not violent to those he cares about. Second, he had reasons for hitting Arvo that I have already explained in practically every thread. Third, he thougth Jane had killed AJ. Four, read my post properly instead of qouting whatever you want.
He's not a danger to Clem now. But who knows what could happen later on. I'm sure Kenny would go crazy trying to take of Aj. Taking care of … morea baby ain't easy. Imagine trying to do it in an with zombies around.
"That Kenny is violent?" Yes Kenny is violent. Did you not see him beat up a crippled kid? Did you not see him attack Jane? The man is dangerous.
That may be well and good. But unless you constantly agree with Kenny and handle him with kiddies gloves, then there's a very real danger that he'll stop caring about you.
He stopped caring in season 1. And frankly I don't know why he started caring in season 2 - returning to my point, which was somehow invalid because you said determinant, even though Clementine liking Kenny is not at all determinate (even though she has no reason what so ever to like Kenny), but is 100% necessarily what happens throughout season 2.
With Kenny you give up your freedom and ability to make choices, in order for him to protect you. Well that's just great, because guess what; he isn't that great at protecting people. If you then want to do something other than what he has decided is best, then prepare to be yelled at and abused (verbally at first, physically if you don't get back in line).
He's not a danger to Clem now. But who knows what could happen later on.
This is you saying: I can´t make proper arguments so I will… more spit out baseless shit.
I'm sure Kenny would go crazy trying to take of Aj.
dafuq? Are you serious? First of all, if Clem stays am Wellington he doesn´t have to take care of AJ, because AJ is with Clem. Second, if you leave with Kenny he has Clem to help him take care of AJ.
Taking care of a baby ain't easy. Imagine trying to do it in an with zombies around.
And? Does this mean Kenny is going to snap?
Spoiler alert: nope, nope.
Yes Kenny is violent. Did you not see him beat up a crippled kid? Did you not see him attack Jane? The man is dangerous.
First of all, Kenny is not violent to those he cares about. Second, he had reasons for hitting Arvo that I have already explained in practically every thread. Third, he thougth Jane had killed AJ. Four, read my post properly instead of qouting whatever you want.
Oh, Kenny is such a great guy. Let's see.....in season 1 when you can choose to save Duck or Hershel's son, no matter what you pick, Kenny d… moreoes not come back to help you. Kenny is automatically an asshole upon going into the store/pharmacy. Always arguing with Lily. Kills her father, without letting Lee and Lily try to revive him first. Knows his son is dying but instead of spending what time Duck does have with his wife and son, he decides to distance himself from them and "drive" the train. He doesn't want Lee to help Ben, just let him die. Then he gets the boat suggestion and that is all he wants, he doesn't listen anyone else's ideas.
Season 2 besides from not liking Luke,Nick, Jane and Mike at the very start, he also is an asshole to Clem if you do not agree with him all the time. He snaps then later it is all "Oh Clem, I'm sorry." He went off the deep end in season 1 and continued to slide and be a jerk in season 2. I was glad when I was able to put him down.
But unless you constantly agree with Kenny and handle him with kiddies gloves, then there's a very real danger that he'll stop caring about you.
Try to dissagre with him on everything in season 2 had see how he stops caring about her... oh wait, he doesn´t. No matter what happens or what she says, he never stops caring about her.
He stopped caring in season 1.
dafuq?
. And frankly I don't know why he started caring in season 2
Because he never stopped?
Just a thougth.
(even though she has no reason what so ever to like Kenny),
A old companion.
A reminder of the days of Lee after she lost Christa and Omid.
He cares about her.
He puts himself above her.
Not enougth reasons for you?
And you know, you can actually say you dislike him.
Clem (to Luke): I never liked in the first place.
but is 100% necessarily what happens throughout season 2.
Nope.
With Kenny you give up your freedom and ability to make choices, in order for him to protect you.
Lol, nope.
Well that's just great, because guess what; he isn't that great at protecting people.
Well, that´s like, your opinion man, but he is defitivily better at protecting that Jane.
If you then want to do something other than what he has decided is best, then prepare to be yelled at and abused (verbally at first, physically if you don't get back in line).
Kenny is not violent to those he cares about.
That may be well and good. But unless you constantly agree with Kenny and handle him w… moreith kiddies gloves, then there's a very real danger that he'll stop caring about you.
He stopped caring in season 1. And frankly I don't know why he started caring in season 2 - returning to my point, which was somehow invalid because you said determinant, even though Clementine liking Kenny is not at all determinate (even though she has no reason what so ever to like Kenny), but is 100% necessarily what happens throughout season 2.
With Kenny you give up your freedom and ability to make choices, in order for him to protect you. Well that's just great, because guess what; he isn't that great at protecting people. If you then want to do something other than what he has decided is best, then prepare to be yelled at and abused (verbally at first, physically if you don't get back in line).
Kenny never cares about Clem during season 1 - albeit determinately, but he didn't come to rescue her at the end, so he can fuck off.
Sure we can express a dislike for Kenny - but we can't ever act on it. We can't say "Fuck you Kenny. Leave me alone you selfish prick" - because if we could, then we couldn't get to this ending.
And Kenny isn't better at protecting than Jane. He should've protected Duck, Katjaa and Sarita - but he failed massively.
Jane protected her sister for months, until she couldn't do anything to protect her, because her sister wouldn't do the tiniest thing to protect herself. Jane also saves the group from the Arvo peeps. And she saves Clem and Rebecca in the herd.
When I disagreed with Kenny that maybe going to north to a maybe-land called Wellington wasn't such a great idea - seeing as we now had a working car and a crying baby who needed formula, aka why don't we go back to Howe's to at the very least find some food for the baby you claim to care about - he yelled at me to stop embarrassing him, he yelled at an 11 year old girl to stop embarrassing him, because said girl dared to voice her disagreement with his plan. What happens next time I embarrass him?
But unless you constantly agree with Kenny and handle him with kiddies gloves, then there's a very real danger that he'll stop caring about … moreyou.
Try to dissagre with him on everything in season 2 had see how he stops caring about her... oh wait, he doesn´t. No matter what happens or what she says, he never stops caring about her.
He stopped caring in season 1.
dafuq?
. And frankly I don't know why he started caring in season 2
Because he never stopped?
Just a thougth.
(even though she has no reason what so ever to like Kenny),
A old companion.
A reminder of the days of Lee after she lost Christa and Omid.
He cares about her.
He puts himself above her.
Not enougth reasons for you?
And you know, you can actually say you dislike him.
Clem (to Luke): I never liked in the first place.
but is 100% necessarily what happens throughout season 2.
Nope.
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Douche is also a shortened form of douchebang.
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I know, i'm just being a smart arse :P
Ah.
Oops....
keep saying that every day,it's good for your health.
you disappointed mature jane lovers.
i thought the people like you had a reason to shoot kenny,but you have no reason for that.
you're just a little kid that loves girl characters .
be mature for your sake.
i understand you.both of them are sad enough.
i tried but i just couldn't pull the trigger.......he was my clem's family.
that's it.
Just like Lexi Porter made me want to kill Luke XD
Ended up disliking Jane at the end of ep 5.
That bitch is crazy.
Who the feck does such a thing, act like the baby is dead just to get someone like Kenny to go nuts? Anyone would do the same as Kenny o_O
Gonna play through s2 again and let Kenny kill Jane.
Which shows that Jane did not start the fight - she did not instigate the violence. Had she been wrong about Kenny - had he not been a hotheaded violent crazy person - her plan falls apart, and she would be forced to admit that Kenny isn't a danger to Clementine.
That's how it could have gone down! But Kenny acted precisely as predicted, proving Jane's point and proving the virtue of her plan (albeit extreme).
Me too. It's hard, but I can't shoot Kenny
I can't trust someone who I have met recently, like Jane. Kenny is everything I have. Clementine knows Kenny long, we all do it.
I can't let that Kenny dying. Kenny is a friend, a family member.
I think, it's right when we let Kenny kill Jane, because Jane is lying to us and that's dumb when Kenny dying for a lie.
Stupid Jane.
Forever Kenny and Clementine.
Yeah, let Kenny kill Jane.
Stupid Jane! That's sad when Kenny dying for a lie.
Kenny is a friend, a family member of Clementine.
Forever Kenny and Clementine.
lol
Who is Lexi Porter?
It's that Lexi Porter? --> www.general-fan-fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Lexi_Porter_(TWD)
You should realize, that she is the instigator of thewhole mess.
Sure.
Whatever.
But he is not a danger to Clementine. Jane is just so obssesed she made her plan, thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week. Her whole plan was fucking stupid, but her reasons were even more stupid.
That Kenny is violent?
Yes.
That Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
Her plan to fake a baby´s death to kill Kenny is full of virtue, of course.
Whatever.
No..he really IS right, though....the fact that you think Jane didn't put that baby in harm shows your lack of intelligence...like the guy above said and in addition to - what if jane does die? guess jane didn't think about that. Cause once she's dead, WHO IS TO TELL ANYONE WHERE THE BABY IS HIDDEN???? how about that? CONVENIENT that they heard the baby cried. but it's crystal CLEAR jane only cared about herself and not the baby's well-being..her actions are sick and twisted. but everything she did up to that point was sick and twisted too, so we should already know this and let Kenny kill her (lets her sister die, lets sarah die (doesn't care), tells clem she's going to die and to ditch her group, shoots a guys dick off and lets him get eatin alive (doesn't matter that the guy was a jerk - that is just sociopathic right there). all you jane defenders lose all creditability...because in the end, telltale SHOWS us that Kenny cared about clem and the baby all along...and sacrifices himself so the kids can stay at wellington. that selfish bitch jane would have said, "if I can't go you shouldn't either clem!"
what if what if what if....jane's actions were made and she made the wrong ones.
deal with what? everyone loves the Kenny ending the best....deal with THAT
Okay.
I found out who she is. She has a YoutubeChannel. She got banned from this Forums. She thinks Clementine and Luke are in Love.
lol.
it is your fault, dude...because kenney CAN come with you if you do the right things...you clearly didn't
and Kenny ends up trying to SAVE ben (and almost dies doing it)....selective memory indeed, christ...
you jane lovers are soo hypocritical
"You seemed to forget when Jane was about to shoot innocent Arvo on the deck, until you stopped her! Then she puts a gun to his head and threatens him"
ALL jane lovers just got OWNED
If the group wasnt there to stop him and Lee didnt murder Ben as Kenny wanted, Ben gets a chance to prove himself and as Kenny calms down from his bloodlust, and thinks more clearly. And this is the main problem with Kenny, he acts on rage and doesnt think clearly and if there isnt someone to stop him from doing something stupid, he will do it.
yea, don't play the game over ever again (rolls eyes)...you sure know how to have fun and get the bang for your buc..
So once you lose debate, you just leave and then keep defending Kenny on others threads?
Only your first playthrough matters, because next time you know everything and it will affect your judgement. It wont be the same anymore.
Go troll somewhere else.
I shot Kenny cause he was trying to kill someone which he was the reason dosnt matter, nothing Jane said warranted immediate murder
Good to see someone who understands who she was suppose to represent.
Oh, Kenny is such a great guy. Let's see.....in season 1 when you can choose to save Duck or Hershel's son, no matter what you pick, Kenny does not come back to help you. Kenny is automatically an asshole upon going into the store/pharmacy. Always arguing with Lily. Kills her father, without letting Lee and Lily try to revive him first. Knows his son is dying but instead of spending what time Duck does have with his wife and son, he decides to distance himself from them and "drive" the train. He doesn't want Lee to help Ben, just let him die. Then he gets the boat suggestion and that is all he wants, he doesn't listen anyone else's ideas.
Season 2 besides from not liking Luke,Nick, Jane and Mike at the very start, he also is an asshole to Clem if you do not agree with him all the time. He snaps then later it is all "Oh Clem, I'm sorry." He went off the deep end in season 1 and continued to slide and be a jerk in season 2. I was glad when I was able to put him down.
Sorry I didn't suck Kenny's dick so now he hates me!
The problem with saying this:
Is that we're never given a choice in this as players. It was something that bugged me throughout the season - ever since Kenny popped back up. We're not allowed any say in how Clementine feels about Kenny, and it really spoils parts of the game. My Lee never liked Kenny - and Kenny sure as hell never liked my Lee. It would stand to reason that Clementine - seeing Lee as her father figure - wouldn't exactly be filled with warmth towards Kenny, especially as he ditched Lee and didn't join in the rescue mission. Yet we're never given a choice in the matter. Jane didn't know better than Clem, but Jane knew exactly the same as Clem (should have reasonably known in my view) - and were there a choice to say "fuck off" to Kenny at any point earlier, I would've taken it.
Kenny was a danger to everyone around him - including Clementine. At first it might be a passive or second hand danger. He's dangerous because he does things without thinking through the consequences and some times these consequences are bad - hitting not Kenny, but those around him. But as the season progresses he becomes more actively dangerous, more needlessly violent towards those around him, more abusive in his language, and generally a much bigger douche (impossible as it might seem).
Also Jane's point isn't simply to show that Kenny is violent, in the sense capable of violence, it is to show that he is unstable and violent, quick to resort to harsh physical violence. Had he been even slightly less unstable he would have asked - as he bloody well should have - what exactly happened, how it happened. He would've understood that it could take a little time for a (supposedly) shaken up Jane to spill the beans.
Instead he runs out into the snow, doesn't find the baby within the first 20 yards, then drops any pretence of discussion or justice or fairness or finding out the truth. He simply resorts to violence, because that's all he knows how to do.
Fine - the merit of her plan then.
Had I been able to ditch Kenny earlier - and had the choice therefore been between Jane and some other character - I might have reacted differently. But since I felt Kenny was forced upon me so utterly, I had and have no problem with Jane's plan.
He's not a danger to Clem now. But who knows what could happen later on. I'm sure Kenny would go crazy trying to take of Aj. Taking care of a baby ain't easy. Imagine trying to do it in an with zombies around.
"That Kenny is violent?" Yes Kenny is violent. Did you not see him beat up a crippled kid? Did you not see him attack Jane? The man is dangerous.
The problem is that you missed that I put a (determinantly) in there, you know. thinking (determinantly) that she knew better that Clem despite only knowing him for lest that a week
I call bullshit, sir. Because is bullshit.
What? The rambo your way out of the truck thing? Yes, that was stupid. And looking for Wellington? Nope, dude. That was the best chance anyone-not just AJ- had of surviving, and he took it.
He is not unstable. Leaving aside that is stupid to call him unstable for being pushed over the edge. Could he have reacted better? Yes, of course, but it was Jane there, not anybody else. Kenny doesn´t trust her. He has no reason to trust her.
Jane: He is...
Clem: (One of her tree dialogue choices or silence)
Kenny: What are you saying? What do you mean?... No, no, no.
Not to the people he cares about.
He thougth Jane had killed AJ. That´s a very justifiable response. Besides, Jane was acting very weird in that scene, is easy to notice and Kenny did.
Nope.
Did it prove Kenny violent?
Yes.
Did it prove Kenny is Carver 2.0?
Nope.
Besides, you are forgetting that, if all she wanted was to prove her point, she could have stopped the figth by running to the car. She wanted to kill him for the begging.
Seriously? Even if you hate Kenny, you should realize that pouring salt into a broken man´s wound is fucked up, and she had no rigth to do it.
This is you saying: I can´t make proper arguments so I will spit out baseless shit.
dafuq? Are you serious? First of all, if Clem stays am Wellington he doesn´t have to take care of AJ, because AJ is with Clem. Second, if you leave with Kenny he has Clem to help him take care of AJ.
And? Does this mean Kenny is going to snap?
Spoiler alert: nope, nope.
First of all, Kenny is not violent to those he cares about. Second, he had reasons for hitting Arvo that I have already explained in practically every thread. Third, he thougth Jane had killed AJ. Four, read my post properly instead of qouting whatever you want.
yeah.just the first playthrough matters.
That may be well and good. But unless you constantly agree with Kenny and handle him with kiddies gloves, then there's a very real danger that he'll stop caring about you.
He stopped caring in season 1. And frankly I don't know why he started caring in season 2 - returning to my point, which was somehow invalid because you said determinant, even though Clementine liking Kenny is not at all determinate (even though she has no reason what so ever to like Kenny), but is 100% necessarily what happens throughout season 2.
With Kenny you give up your freedom and ability to make choices, in order for him to protect you. Well that's just great, because guess what; he isn't that great at protecting people. If you then want to do something other than what he has decided is best, then prepare to be yelled at and abused (verbally at first, physically if you don't get back in line).
Well this certainly factored in to my decision making. Only a small part though - the joy of shooting Kenny was reward enough in itself.
Try to dissagre with him on everything in season 2 had see how he stops caring about her... oh wait, he doesn´t. No matter what happens or what she says, he never stops caring about her.
dafuq?
Because he never stopped?
Just a thougth.
A old companion.
A reminder of the days of Lee after she lost Christa and Omid.
He cares about her.
He puts himself above her.
Not enougth reasons for you?
And you know, you can actually say you dislike him.
Clem (to Luke): I never liked in the first place.
Nope.
Lol, nope.
Well, that´s like, your opinion man, but he is defitivily better at protecting that Jane.
Are you even serious?
Yes I am serious.
Kenny never cares about Clem during season 1 - albeit determinately, but he didn't come to rescue her at the end, so he can fuck off.
Sure we can express a dislike for Kenny - but we can't ever act on it. We can't say "Fuck you Kenny. Leave me alone you selfish prick" - because if we could, then we couldn't get to this ending.
And Kenny isn't better at protecting than Jane. He should've protected Duck, Katjaa and Sarita - but he failed massively.
Jane protected her sister for months, until she couldn't do anything to protect her, because her sister wouldn't do the tiniest thing to protect herself. Jane also saves the group from the Arvo peeps. And she saves Clem and Rebecca in the herd.
When I disagreed with Kenny that maybe going to north to a maybe-land called Wellington wasn't such a great idea - seeing as we now had a working car and a crying baby who needed formula, aka why don't we go back to Howe's to at the very least find some food for the baby you claim to care about - he yelled at me to stop embarrassing him, he yelled at an 11 year old girl to stop embarrassing him, because said girl dared to voice her disagreement with his plan. What happens next time I embarrass him?