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Would you like to see Monkey Island 2 lechucks revenge special edition?

Wolfstar27Wolfstar27
edited March 2010 in Tales of Monkey Island
as everyone knows with the hype leading up to the new Secret of Monkey Island:SE, everyone is wondering if there going to make a special edition to Monkey Island 2, now Monkey Island 2 is my favourite game in the series (infact it was the first one i played out of the series),my only concern is seeing the revamp of this game,because as crazy as it sounds, i really love detail in the game, the art work and backgrounds was really breathtaking, and if they revamp the characters,i dont know if there going to loose the hilarious facial expressions, like when guybrush shoves a dog down his pants, or see his cheesy smile, when hes up to no good, or when he gets threaten by largo and you see guybrushs false hair, i dont know wether it would feel the same.

what do you guys think? do you think my concerns are ridiculous, or do you agree with what im saying
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  • Toothless GibbonToothless Gibbon
    edited June 2009
    I think MI2 was a huge improvement graphically over SoMI anyway so I dont think s MI2:SE would be as needed (I cant play the original now due to the graphics, but can MI2)

    It would be worth it just for the voices though IMO.
  • kbloodkblood
    edited June 2009
    Toothless Gibbon wrote: »
    I think MI2 was a huge improvement graphically over SoMI anyway so I dont think s MI2:SE would be as needed (I cant play the original now due to the graphics, but can MI2)

    It would be worth it just for the voices though IMO.

    I am playing through MI2 atm, and I am also thinking it would be nice with voices. So would be great if they made a game the same way as MI1:SE where you can choose between old and new graphics, and hopefully voices as well. Old grapthics with voices would be nice :)
  • SurplusGamerSurplusGamer
    edited June 2009
    It's certainly a bigger job than MI1. More characters, more animation, more locations, MUCH more music (and how to match the iMUSE used in the original would pose an interesting puzzle). Once saving grace could be that they still have the original handpainted backgrounds, so if they could be re-scanned at a higher res that would both look great and save work.

    I'd love to see it as MI2 is my favourite in the series, but it's not an upgrade to be taken lightly.

    Not that this has anything to do with Telltale, of course.
  • GozzoManGozzoMan
    edited June 2009
    I don't think it's needed too... But, anyway, I really hope they would contact a good hairstylist........... :rolleyes:
  • SilverwolfpetSilverwolfpet
    edited June 2009
    GozzoMan wrote: »
    I don't think it's needed too... But, anyway, I really hope they would contact a good hairstylist........... :rolleyes:

    Seconded :)
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited June 2009
    I'd be OK with just the addition of voices.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    I'd be OK with just the addition of voices.

    Yes, to be honest The Sam and Max voices period really did it for me . I grew up durring the Fate of Atlantis, DOTT , SAM period . I didn't really grow up in the silent video game period . The only silent video game I can stand to play is Last Crusade (that's silent right ?) (The adventure game version ).
  • MatakuMataku
    edited June 2009
    I think MI2 is perfect the way it is. It's probably one of the only games i would not want to hear the voices, because it'll take away from the music, which really did all the talking in that game. It'll be like wanting to add voices to the old silent movies, kinda destroys their point. Also, it's almost impossible to recreate the complex tricks Imuse did on the midi with recorded music.
  • nadirnadir
    edited June 2009
    Silverwolfpet wrote: »
    Seconded :)


    Thirded

    The hair makes him look like a brat.
    Still going to love it though :D. Bring on MI2 special edition.
  • KradathKradath
    edited June 2009
    I already made a thread about other lucasarts SE games here. :)
  • turingmachine604turingmachine604
    edited June 2009
    Wouldn't mind it... as long as they don't mess up Guybrush with some weird model.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2009
    There is a Special Edition concept art of an MI2 Guybrush, but he looks so old and emaciated. :( I absolutely hate that piece of art.
  • plrichardplrichard
    edited June 2009
    Definitely, it's so weird that when I go back to play SMI and MI2 that it seems strange to not hear Dominic's voice. Plus I'd really like to hear what Largo would sound like. I agree though, all that is needed is the voices, updated graphics aren't needed. Speaking of which, does anyone know if in SMI:SE when you switch back to the original graphics if the voice-overs stay or do they go away too?

    Thanks.
  • taumeltaumel
    edited June 2009
    I think a Special Edition only makes sense if it adds some additional value, like that it's not available for a certain platform yet, enhancing specific aspects of the game like better art(gfx, sfx), additional scenes and riddles in between, adding a behind the scenes, ...

    If it doesn't add something like this, i guess it's already fine just selling the old version so that people can buy it in a legal way. Although this might be different for someone who never played the game before.

    The gfx in the Special Edition of SOMI are, well, ahm, ... but nevertheless it is available for the Xbox360.
  • Random VariableRandom Variable
    edited June 2009
    Toothless Gibbon wrote: »
    I think MI2 was a huge improvement graphically over SoMI anyway so I dont think s MI2:SE would be as needed (I cant play the original now due to the graphics, but can MI2)

    It would be worth it just for the voices though IMO.

    The VGA version of SoMI is fairly similar graphically to LeChuck's Revenge. And it's very playble with the use of a high quaility magnification filter in ScummVM. Have you only played the EGA version?
  • OzzieMonkeyOzzieMonkey
    edited June 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    I'd be OK with just the addition of voices.

    I don't think that Lucasarts will do that coz there are already people working on adding speech to MI2 without any other changes, so it wouldn't sell, coz these other guys are doin it 4 free.
  • kbloodkblood
    edited June 2009
    OzzieMonkey wrote: »
    I don't think that Lucasarts will do that coz there are already people working on adding speech to MI2 without any other changes, so it wouldn't sell, coz these other guys are doin it 4 free.

    Wouldnt exactly be the same. Such free projects sometimes takes years, and sometimes never get done. Even if it did, it wouldnt be the original voices like Lucasarts could do.

    Certainly would be nice hearing the voice of Largo, the pirate songs, the skeleton song. Lechuck in the ending of the game :), the parents.

    I doubt they would be able to do all that in free voice over remake of MI2. Especially with good music. If Lucasarts did an MI2 remake Im also hoping they would redo all the sounds. I just played through the game, and they could use an update. Still a great game though :) Still my favorite of all adventure games.

    Didnt know about the fan voice over though. I would settle for that if thats all there is to get, if they get it done.
  • KB57KB57
    edited June 2009
    OzzieMonkey wrote: »
    I don't think that Lucasarts will do that coz there are already people working on adding speech to MI2 without any other changes, so it wouldn't sell, coz these other guys are doin it 4 free.

    I can't stand fan voiceovers. They sound dorky and I'd rather hear a professional. The drawback to stuff that's "4 free" is that you get what you pay for.

    And I'd pay to get a special edition of MI2, if LA did it.
  • glenfxglenfx
    edited June 2009
    Would you like to see Monkey Island 2 lechucks revenge special edition?

    ABSOLUTELY!!! even more so since its my favorite of the MI games
  • SubSidalSubSidal
    edited June 2009
    MI2: SE would be great!! But Guybrush's hair really needs a change from the SMI:SE.... He sure looks like a jerky surfer dude... And ONLY if they wouldn't mess up the zombie version of LeChuck like they did in EMI...
  • TookiGuyTookiGuy
    edited June 2009
    I think they should wait... And I would keep the art style intact. It looks absolutely fine.
  • wannabe_piratewannabe_pirate
    edited June 2009
    Talesofmi.net was just closed when I tried to visit it because the bandwidth was exceeded. The facebook group is also chock full of fans buzzing over monkey island. Nice work guys... if we keep it up and translate this attention into sales, I think we have only seen the beginning of Monkey Island and other old Lucasarts IP resurrections
  • bvigecbvigec
    edited June 2009
    First Day Buy!
  • Guybrush_ThreepwoodGuybrush_Threepwood
    edited June 2009
    The world needs MI2:SE!
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited June 2009
    Boy howdy, yes!
  • paraboleeparabolee
    edited June 2009
    OF COURSE!

    But it would have to be very faithful because that game is virtually perfect, but it would be very sad if the best game in the series was the only one without full voice acting.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2009
    parabolee wrote: »
    OF COURSE!

    But it would have to be very faithful because that game is virtually perfect, but it would be very sad if the best game in the series was the only one without full voice acting.

    Well, judging from how faithfully reproduced Secret of Monkey Island was (besides the hair), I don't think you'd have to worry about faithfullness.
  • TookiGuyTookiGuy
    edited June 2009
    ^To be honest, SMI:SE looks very creepy to me... I mean, how about they get the original dudes who did the backgrounds and sprites? And just reconstruct them EXACTLY as they were, only more detailed?
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited June 2009
    Because.

    If they DO make MI2:SE then I hope they include the lite version as well. It'll add to replayability, but more importantly a lot of people may not play it because of its difficulty. That game is TOUGH. Having the option of a lite version would be more appealing to people.

    Then again, there's the included hint system anyway now so it doesn't really matter...
  • pilouuuupilouuuu
    edited June 2009
    Of course! I think it's a given they'll make it.

    My biggest questions is if the hand painted backdrops still exist, so if they scan them with full colour and high resolution...

    Wow, it would look amazing. Also the fact of ¡Muse using MIDI. If they can make it work with digital high quality sound I would be really amazed.

    Also the Guybrush should look better something like the one from TOMI. No crazy hair cuts please. Maybe they could add some filter to the sprites, like outlines, so they look a bit more like COMI characters and not like Flash games characters... Just an idea.
  • DinghyDogDinghyDog
    edited June 2009
    I don't think that we will find a Monkey Island fan that woldn't want LR special edition... We can only count on us, so Don't be cheap guys! Buy MI 1 SE and we will have LR quickly ;)
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited June 2009
    I would LOVE IT.... But I wouldnt want them to change the style too much just make it hi-rez.
  • tomo_cjttomo_cjt
    edited June 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I would LOVE IT.... But I wouldnt want them to change the style too much just make it hi-rez.

    Yeah, just re-draw the sprited in HD and scan in the backgrounds at a higher resolution.

    OH, and try and get IMUSE to work with a fully orchestrated soundtrack, actually that would be a fun project to work on - updating IMUSE. shame I live in the UK so I can't apply to work at LA :(
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited June 2009
    The MI2 iMuse soundtrack could probably work with digital variations. But instead of having separate tracks for each song you'd need separate tracks for almost every instrument separately in every song! Seeing as a lot of themes fade one lead instrument out and another lead instrument in...all in the same theme. And then there's the cued song endings where a song can stop in certain sections of it and end very nicely. The thing that has me most worried, though, is the pitch-shifting from the spitting contest. When Guybrush goes to start the spitting contest the music slows down and gradually decreases in pitch on the fly. Pitch shifting on digital waveforms is undesirable so I don't know what they'd do for that. Probably just make it fade out or something. Or have a pre-recorded alternate track where the music slows down and the instruments gradually drop in key as they're played by the musicians.

    Wow.
  • pilouuuupilouuuu
    edited June 2009
    I simply would love that they update the ¡Muse system! That (almost) makes me more excited than the actual LR remake!

    Really, Monkey 2 has such a brilliant soundtrack... I think it haven't been surpased in terms of interactivity, even to this day. COMI and EMI may have used the system, but it haven't showed such quality in terms of interactivity.

    As MusicallyInspired mentioned different soundtracks for each instrument and/or pitch and tempo variation would be great. It is possible with today technology and storage capabilities.

    It would simply rock and it's a reason I want Monkey Island 2 remade even more.

    They could even use the system in all their newer games, and I can surely say that it would be the most important enhancement in the sound department in games of the decade.
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited June 2009
    That's a good point about the soundtrack as that is a large part of what made the game what it is because it's the main thing you hear. Having voiced characters could actually diminish the power of the soundtrack which would be a huge shame. For example, I liked the soundtrack for CMI but apart from the songs sung by the characters I couldn't really name any particular theme that really stood out. Not so in Secret & Revenge.

    This has made me very interested to see how LA have combined a voice track with the music in Secret SE.
  • LogicDeLuxeLogicDeLuxe
    edited June 2009
    plrichard wrote: »
    Plus I'd really like to hear what Largo would sound like.
    Remember this one from 2002? http://www.mixnmojo.com/temp/mi5cutscene.mp3
    It sounded quite convincing, imho. Best April fools joke ever.
    I liked that Largo in it.
    I don't find the news page linking this file anymore. The hoax was a cooperation of several sites, Dominic Armato contributed his voice and the music was done by Highland Productions. I don't remember who did the Largo part, though.
    KB57 wrote: »
    I can't stand fan voiceovers. They sound dorky and I'd rather hear a professional. The drawback to stuff that's "4 free" is that you get what you pay for.
    The quality sure varies. Most what I heard from the fan dub WIP of MI1 was quite adequate. Also not so long ago there were "Broken Sword 2.5" and "Zak McKracken: between time and space" (both in German) which have quite good voice acting. The latter has some minor mixing issues, though.
    On the other side, taking a professional example like "Fate of Atlantis", the voice acting really isn't that convincing either, I'd say.
  • rubberchickenwithapulleyrubberchickenwithapulley
    edited June 2009
    Yes MI 2 SE is a must - and why not make CMI in a VGA version? Now that would be fun :D
  • moomoocowmoomoocow
    edited June 2009
    Absolutely. Lucas Arts should remake all those 2D point&click adventures and I wish whoever owns the rights to the Sierra material would do the same.
  • LaserschwertLaserschwert
    edited June 2009
    LogicDeLuxe wrote: »
    I don't remember who did the Largo part, though.
    That was Dom as well.
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